We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

On Jun 17, 10:21*am, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. *Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

If the hinges are on the same side, it's easier to hold the storm door
open with your back as you unlock the front door.

If the hinges are on the opposite side, you'll be reaching into the
more constricted part of the opening to unlock the front door. If you
have anything at all in your hands besides the key, this will be
annoying.

If your husband can't see this, he's just being difficult. Retaliate
in any of the numerous ways open to you.

R

On Jun 17, 10:33*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:21*am, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. *Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

If the hinges are on the same side, it's easier to hold the storm door
open with your back as you unlock the front door.

If the hinges are on the opposite side, you'll be reaching into the
more constricted part of the opening to unlock the front door. *If you
have anything at all in your hands besides the key, this will be
annoying.

Thanks, I'll try that one. But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.

If your husband can't see this, he's just being difficult. *Retaliate
in any of the numerous ways open to you.

The problem is, he's the youngest of five boys, and I'm an only child.
He's much more inventive and experienced than I am.

I'm sure I'll think of something. Perhaps I'll start "forgetting"
the
sugar in his coffee.

Cindy Hamilton

On 6/17/2010 9:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

What I've learned from sorry experience is that this approach requires
people to hold the outer door wide open while reaching to open the
inner door. Wind gusts will then snap the outer door to its fullest
extension (and a little beyond, sometimes) which is hard on the outer
door. Not to mention that a fully-opened outer door means the wind,
rain or snow then blasts into the house once the inner door is opened.
So having both doors hinged on the same side minimizes exposure to the
elements.

On 6/17/2010 9:43 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:33 am, wrote:

If your husband can't see this, he's just being difficult. Retaliate
in any of the numerous ways open to you.

The problem is, he's the youngest of five boys, and I'm an only child.
He's much more inventive and experienced than I am.

I'm sure I'll think of something. Perhaps I'll start "forgetting"
the
sugar in his coffee.

Tell him if you can't get that door to open the way you want it, he
won't be getting *your* door to open the way he wants it.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Thanks, I'll try that one. But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.


And how are the hinges on THAT door configured?

Further, if you only use the front door infrequently, why bother with a
storm door?

On Jun 17, 10:21*am, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. *Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

You've received some reasons why *not* to do it, but I'm curious...

Has he shared with you his reasons for changing the current set-up?

Maybe there is something he is aware of that we're not.

The door to my shop in the basement is "opposite-hinged" but there is
a reason.

The shop is an extension off of the back of the house, but is only
half as wide as original house.

The door is marked by the X.


Yard Yard
------------
Yard X |
| |
S | |
------------ |
| |
|----------------------|

(Not to scale)

The interior door opens against the back wall instead of into the
shop.

The storm door opens towards the original house instead of into the
yard. There's a shed in the corner (S), the storm opens towards that.

Access is easier with that set-up, since both doors are out the normal
traffic path, especially when carrying material from the yard into the
shop.

dadiOH wrote:

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Just telling him he is an idiot is unlikely to help so...

1. Pull a Lysistrata
- OR -
2. New husband.

I've had an inkling, for some time, that the average intelligence of this
group exceeds by more than a small amount that often found in other
congregations.

Imagine reference to a play by Aristophanes as a solution to a home repair
question !

I continue to be impressed.

---
Aside: A conservative author has a new (fiction) book out and promotes it
with the following poem:

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man-
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began:-
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will bum,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings* with terror and slaughter return!

There's even a spooky video trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBoeHgy7svg

Now what's amazing is that many of the author's foes used the above poem to
illustrate the pathologically depraved mindset of the book's author!
Obviously anyone who could conjure up something so despicable must be
deranged!

The author of the poem was Rudyard Kipling.

---
* Copybook Headings - Long ago, in English schools, when penmanship was
taught, "copybooks" were distributed to the students. Each page had a pithy
saying at the top, written in an elegant hand, and the students were obliged
to copy the maxim, over and over, down the otherwise blank page.

On 6/17/2010 9:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Although It is not recommended I can see why your husband wants the
storm door to swing the wrong way. People approach your front door
from the left. If your door was installed properly it would swing into
the face of someone coming up the sidewalk. A door opening the wrong
way would welcome your guests. Opening the other way would be like the
opposite. They would have to walk around the open door. Your husband
is a thoughtful man. He' s thinking of others instead of himself in
this issue. You might want to hang onto this one.

LdB

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door right-hinge.

Our most used entry door and its screen door are set up with opposite
hinges. It could have been same side hinges, but it works fine... probably
better. I recently added a new exterior door and storm door to a deck. In
this case, opposite hinges was the only practical way to go.

From the exterior, it appears that you would approach the front door from
the left side, rather than straight on, so opposite side hinges would work
great. Sorry. Besides, husbands are always right.

;-{

In article
,
Cindy Hamilton wrote:


Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Somebody on a.h.r. was giving away a 24" pipe wrench the other day ...

On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:21:42 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:

We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton
Our back garage entry door is that way - the storm opens out against
the wall, while the door opens in away from the entry to the house -
wouldn't have it any other way.

In article , Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door right-hinge.

For heaven's sake, WHY??
[...]
It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Don't do it. It's a pain in the ass. It's a *major* nuisance if you have
anything in your hands as you're coming in the door -- either you switch
hands, or you have to make an awkward reach for the inside doorknob.

It makes it *very* awkward to carry anything big enough to require two
people through the door, and definitely limits the size of things that can be
carried.

And it's just "wrong". Doors aren't normally set up that way. It's unusual.
It's clumsy and awkward. *Nobody* likes it.

In article , Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Thanks, I'll try that one. But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.

A large pizza is wide enough to be really awkward to pass through such a
setup. Believe me, I know. Our front door is set up that way, and it's a
nuisance every time we have one delivered.

On Jun 17, 11:59*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Thanks, I'll try that one. *But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. *Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.

And how are the hinges on THAT door configured?

Sliding patio door.

Further, if you only use the front door infrequently, why bother with a
storm door?

To protect the 2-kilobuck fiberglass door that we just bought and
installed. There's no overhang of any kind.

Cindy Hamilton

On Jun 17, 12:38*pm, LdB wrote:
On 6/17/2010 9:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:





We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. *Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Although It is not recommended I can see why your husband wants the
storm door to swing the wrong way. People approach your front door
from the left. If your door was installed properly it would swing into
the face of someone coming up the sidewalk. A door opening the wrong
way would welcome your guests. Opening the other way would be like the
opposite. *They would have to walk around the open door. Your husband
is a thoughtful man. He' s thinking of others instead of himself in
this issue. You might want to hang onto this one.

Well, I do intend to hang onto him; I've already invested a quarter-
centry
of my life (that's almost half at this point).

Our guests universally use the back door. Pretty much only
the pizza guy, door-to-door solicitors, and I use the front. (And
I only use the front to interact with the pizza guy and fetch the
newspaper.)

I suppose I should resign myself to losing this one.

Who knows? Maybe I'll like his way. He usually is right.
I don't know why I bother to argue with him.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Absent a compelling reason to do otherwise I would never install one that
way for all the small PITA problems already mentioned.

Now having said that I must confess that I have 2 rental house where I have
done that for 2 compelling reasons. Tenants and kids never take the time to
make sure the door fully closes and the normal wind direction blows them
open ripping them off the hinges. By putting the hinges on the predominant
wind side I am no longer replacing storm doors on a regular basis.


--
Colbyt
Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com

In article
,
Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On Jun 17, 11:59*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Thanks, I'll try that one. *But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. *Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.

And how are the hinges on THAT door configured?

Sliding patio door.

Further, if you only use the front door infrequently, why bother with a
storm door?

To protect the 2-kilobuck fiberglass door that we just bought and
installed. There's no overhang of any kind.


So you bought a nice expensive designer door (and it does look good, I
agree) and now you're going to hide it behind a storm door. I say you
and your husband are both wrong. I wouldn't put a storm door there at
all.

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton



When he tries to move a table or couch through that set up you (and he)
will see YOU are correct.WW

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

And how are the hinges on THAT door configured?

Sliding patio door.

Okay, check the doors on every house on your block. Consider the majority
vote as some indicator of best practice.


Further, if you only use the front door infrequently, why bother
with a storm door?

To protect the 2-kilobuck fiberglass door that we just bought and
installed. There's no overhang of any kind.


If the door cost more than a couple hundred bucks, it will weather storms,
gunshots, meteor strikes, Halloween tricksters, home invaders, termites, a
blow-torch, SWAT team battering rams, and almost anything else nature, God,
ferocious animals, or humans can throw at it.

If you're still concerned, you can wrap it in aluminum foil.

On Jun 17, 1:46*pm, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article , Cindy Hamilton wrote:

We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door right-hinge.

For heaven's sake, WHY??
[...]

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Don't do it. It's a pain in the ass. It's a *major* nuisance if you have
anything in your hands as you're coming in the door -- either you switch
hands, or you have to make an awkward reach for the inside doorknob.

It makes it *very* awkward to carry anything big enough to require two
people through the door, and definitely limits the size of things that can be
carried.

And it's just "wrong". Doors aren't normally set up that way. It's unusual.
It's clumsy and awkward. *Nobody* likes it.

*Nobody* likes it.

Not true. As I described in my reply about my shop door, it would be
more inconvenient if the doors were hinged on the same side.

Either the interior door would open into the shop (and right into the
traffic path) instead of against the wall, or the storm door would
open into the yard (and right into the traffic path).

Comparing the overall convenience based on the actual usage of the
doors, this set-up outweighs the bad things that you mentioned in your
post.

I don't disagree with the bad things you mentioned, I just disagree
with the "*Nobody* likes it" part. I'm quite happy with my set-up.

P.S. My front door and garage entrance are both set up the "right
way". ;-)

On Jun 17, 3:43*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,
*Cindy Hamilton wrote:





On Jun 17, 11:59 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Thanks, I'll try that one. But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.

And how are the hinges on THAT door configured?

Sliding patio door.

Further, if you only use the front door infrequently, why bother with a
storm door?

To protect the 2-kilobuck fiberglass door that we just bought and
installed. *There's no overhang of any kind.

So you bought a nice expensive designer door (and it does look good, I
agree) and now you're going to hide it behind a storm door. I say you
and your husband are both wrong. I wouldn't put a storm door there at
all.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"So you bought a nice expensive designer door ...and now you're
going to hide it behind a storm door."

I bought a nice expensive designer door but also bought a expensive
designer *full view* storm door.

We enjoy having the interior door open and with new hi-efficiency
retractable screen full view storm door, we can have the interior door
open more often than we could in the past.

The full view storm makes a huge difference, both from inside the
house and outside, and doesn't hide the interior door.

On Jun 17, 2:43*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,
*Cindy Hamilton wrote:



On Jun 17, 11:59 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Thanks, I'll try that one. But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.

And how are the hinges on THAT door configured?

Sliding patio door.

Further, if you only use the front door infrequently, why bother with a
storm door?

To protect the 2-kilobuck fiberglass door that we just bought and
installed. *There's no overhang of any kind.

So you bought a nice expensive designer door (and it does look good, I
agree) and now you're going to hide it behind a storm door. I say you
and your husband are both wrong. I wouldn't put a storm door there at
all.

Another vote for "nix the storm". Fiberglass doors are *intended* to
be in the weather. That's why they make them out of fiberglass.

keith wrote:


-snip-


Another vote for "nix the storm". Fiberglass doors are *intended* to
be in the weather. That's why they make them out of fiberglass.

If it's election day, then I vote *for* the storm. [never had a
bassackwards setup, so I can't help the OP with hubby-- except to
remind *her* to remind *him* that when 'momma ain't happy-- then
*nobody* is happy' g]

Biggest storm door advantages are ventilation in summer and reduced
heat loss in winter.

Protecting the other door is a minor advantage in my opinion.

Jim

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Several factors go into making a decision on which way to mount a storm
door.

Prevailing winds. If winter winds will blow across and grab the door out of
your hand and smash it all to heck that is a really good reason to mount the
door backward.

If the handle on the screen door would conflict with the door handle that
would be a good reason to mount it backward also.

If none of the above applies then my opinion is that is a real stupid way to
hinge a storm door.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

What do you do with whatever you are holding in your hands, as you go
through the door?

You are right, it is a dumb idea. I've seen a few houses (as a kid)
where there was no other choice for clearance reasons, and it was always
akward.

--
aem sends...

On 6/17/2010 1:49 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Jun 17, 12:38 pm, wrote:
On 6/17/2010 9:21 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:





We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Although It is not recommended I can see why your husband wants the
storm door to swing the wrong way. People approach your front door
from the left. If your door was installed properly it would swing into
the face of someone coming up the sidewalk. A door opening the wrong
way would welcome your guests. Opening the other way would be like the
opposite. They would have to walk around the open door. Your husband
is a thoughtful man. He' s thinking of others instead of himself in
this issue. You might want to hang onto this one.

Well, I do intend to hang onto him; I've already invested a quarter-
centry
of my life (that's almost half at this point).

Our guests universally use the back door. Pretty much only
the pizza guy, door-to-door solicitors, and I use the front. (And
I only use the front to interact with the pizza guy and fetch the
newspaper.)

I suppose I should resign myself to losing this one.

Things like the door are of little consequence. There are more
important battles to be decided, like what kind of toppings go on the
Pizza. There's a little place nearby that makes Pizzas to die for. If
my toppings get on her side I could die for it.

LdB



Who knows? Maybe I'll like his way. He usually is right.
I don't know why I bother to argue with him.

Cindy Hamilton

On Jun 17, 7:23*pm, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

...





We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. *Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Several factors go into making a decision on which way to mount a storm
door.

Prevailing winds. *If winter winds will blow across and grab the door out of
your hand and smash it all to heck that is a really good reason to mount the
door backward.

If the handle on the screen door would conflict with the door handle that
would be a good reason to mount it backward also.

If none of the above applies then my opinion is that is a real stupid way to
hinge a storm door.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You said that there are *several* factors (which means "more than 2")
then you listed 2 then you said if "none of the above" apply.

I agree that there are *several* factors but I don't agree that those
are the only 2 which make it "OK" to hinge the doors on different
sides.

Traffic patterns and convenience also enter into the decision, as I've
mentioned a couple of times regarding my shop doors. By hinging them
on opposite sides, they both open against a solid structure (wall and
shed) as opposed to opening into the traffic pattern and forcing users
to go around them.

On Jun 17, 5:40*pm, keith wrote:
On Jun 17, 2:43*pm, Smitty Two wrote:





In article
,
*Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On Jun 17, 11:59 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Thanks, I'll try that one. But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.

And how are the hinges on THAT door configured?

Sliding patio door.

Further, if you only use the front door infrequently, why bother with a
storm door?

To protect the 2-kilobuck fiberglass door that we just bought and
installed. *There's no overhang of any kind.

So you bought a nice expensive designer door (and it does look good, I
agree) and now you're going to hide it behind a storm door. I say you
and your husband are both wrong. I wouldn't put a storm door there at
all.

Another vote for "nix the storm". *Fiberglass doors are *intended* to
be in the weather. *That's why they make them out of fiberglass.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Are fiberglass doors *intended* to be in the weather or are they able
to *withstand* the weather?

That's 2 very different things.

My car seats are made of a material that dries very quickly. DAMHIKT

They are not *intended* to be left exposed to thunderstorms, but they
can *withstand* the exposure fairly well.

As far as the use of storms doors, I've had them on every hinged door
in every house I've ever lived. Even growing up I remember the entry
doors being open for light, air and that general feeling of "openess".
As I mentioned earlier, I love my new full view, retractable screen
storm door for those very reasons.

There's nothing like the cross ventilation you get with multiple doors
open - without the danger of contracting the West Nile virus in your
own living room.

How many people here think that the only reason for a storm door is to
protect the entry door?

On Jun 17, 5:40*pm, keith wrote:
On Jun 17, 2:43*pm, Smitty Two wrote:



In article
,
*Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On Jun 17, 11:59 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Thanks, I'll try that one. But we mostly use the front door to
accept delivery of a pizza. Otherwise, we use the back door,
which is closer to the detached garage.

And how are the hinges on THAT door configured?

Sliding patio door.

Further, if you only use the front door infrequently, why bother with a
storm door?

To protect the 2-kilobuck fiberglass door that we just bought and
installed. *There's no overhang of any kind.

So you bought a nice expensive designer door (and it does look good, I
agree) and now you're going to hide it behind a storm door. I say you
and your husband are both wrong. I wouldn't put a storm door there at
all.

Another vote for "nix the storm". *Fiberglass doors are *intended* to
be in the weather. *That's why they make them out of fiberglass.

That's a possibility...if you keep your door closed all of the time.
Some people might prefer it, or require it for safety reasons. But in
most instances a storm door provides somethings a single door can't.
A storm/screen door is great for ventilation and light, and provides a
more open feel to the house. Particularly important during parties
and other gatherings where people are coming and going.

R

In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:

Even growing up I remember the entry
doors being open for light, air and that general feeling of "openess".

It's great to have the doors open. I leave a door or two open
frequently, but don't have storm / screen doors. To me its like wearing
a condom; completely ruins the experience.

On Jun 18, 1:28*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
In article
,

*DerbyDad03 wrote:
Even growing up I remember the entry
doors being open for light, air and that general feeling of "openess".

It's great to have the doors open. I leave a door or two open
frequently, but don't have storm / screen doors. To me its like wearing
a condom; completely ruins the experience.

Losing one of my wife's dogs through the open door would ruin any
chance of me ever having an "experience" with her again.

But I know what you mean...the sliding screen on the deck is usually
left open. However, there is a gate to keep the dogs on the deck.

I don't know where you live, but my area is very wooded. Not using
screens at night during the summer would mean bugs of varying shapes
and sizes, some being pretty friggin' scary, would be attracted to the
light inside the house. We'd be overrun.

Don't 'cha just love the smell of a large fried moth on a 300 Watts
Halogen Torchiere?

"DerbyDad03" wrote in message
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On Jun 17, 7:23 pm, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

...





We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Several factors go into making a decision on which way to mount a storm
door.

Prevailing winds. If winter winds will blow across and grab the door out
of
your hand and smash it all to heck that is a really good reason to mount
the
door backward.

If the handle on the screen door would conflict with the door handle that
would be a good reason to mount it backward also.

If none of the above applies then my opinion is that is a real stupid way
to
hinge a storm door.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube,
then
they come up with this striped stuff.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You said that there are *several* factors (which means "more than 2")
then you listed 2 then you said if "none of the above" apply.

I agree that there are *several* factors but I don't agree that those
are the only 2 which make it "OK" to hinge the doors on different
sides.

Traffic patterns and convenience also enter into the decision, as I've
mentioned a couple of times regarding my shop doors. By hinging them
on opposite sides, they both open against a solid structure (wall and
shed) as opposed to opening into the traffic pattern and forcing users
to go around them.

OK I will give you credit for another factor that I didn't consider.

Mrs. Hamilton said in a different post something to the effect that in 25
years Mr. Hamilton is usually right. Perhaps I was a bit hasty in calling
the left/right method stupid, but in my defense I would tend to agree with
Mrs. Hamilton's position that it is incontinent to have to open the door
wide to open the storm.


Also I thank you for pointing out that several is properly more than two. I
had not been aware of that prior to your pointing it out.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.

On Jun 18, 1:57*pm, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:
"DerbyDad03" wrote in message

...
On Jun 17, 7:23 pm, "Roger Shoaf" wrote:





"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

...

We've got a left-hinge door, and my husband wants to install the storm
door
right-hinge. Here's a picture of our setup:

http://www.adi.com/~hamilton/house/o...ontOfHouse.jpg

(It shows the old door and storm both of which were installed left-
hinge.)

It seems really inconvenient to me, and I'm trying to talk him out of
it
(although I expect to lose, as I have lost every damned point on our
current project.)

Does anybody have anything that I could use to persuade him?

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Several factors go into making a decision on which way to mount a storm
door.

Prevailing winds. If winter winds will blow across and grab the door out
of
your hand and smash it all to heck that is a really good reason to mount
the
door backward.

If the handle on the screen door would conflict with the door handle that
would be a good reason to mount it backward also.

If none of the above applies then my opinion is that is a real stupid way
to
hinge a storm door.

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube,
then
they come up with this striped stuff.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You said that there are *several* factors (which means "more than 2")
then you listed 2 then you said if "none of the above" apply.

I agree that there are *several* factors but I don't agree that those
are the only 2 which make it "OK" to hinge the doors on different
sides.

Traffic patterns and convenience also enter into the decision, as I've
mentioned a couple of times regarding my shop doors. By hinging them
on opposite sides, they both open against a solid structure (wall and
shed) as opposed to opening into the traffic pattern and forcing users
to go around them.

OK I will give you credit for another factor that I didn't consider.

Mrs. Hamilton said in a different post something to the effect that in 25
years Mr. Hamilton is usually right. *Perhaps I was a bit hasty in calling
the left/right method stupid, but in my defense I would tend to agree with
Mrs. Hamilton's position that it is incontinent to have to open the door
wide to open the storm.


Also I thank you for pointing out that several is properly more than two. *I
had not been aware of that prior to your pointing it out.

I'm only here to help! ;-)


Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Roger Shoaf wrote:

I would
tend to agree with Mrs. Hamilton's position that it is incontinent to
have to open the door wide to open the storm.


Incontinent?

Well, yeah, I guess if I were in a hurry to use the loo and had to fiddle
with a kludge door arrangement...

On Jun 18, 2:36*pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Roger Shoaf wrote:
I would
tend to agree with Mrs. Hamilton's position that it is incontinent to
have to open the door wide to open the storm.

Incontinent?

Well, yeah, I guess if I were in a hurry to use the loo and had to fiddle
with a kludge door arrangement...

Luckily, our front yard is screened by shrubs. I could probably
get away with it.

Cindy Hamilton

In article
,
DerbyDad03 wrote:



I don't know where you live, but my area is very wooded. Not using
screens at night during the summer would mean bugs of varying shapes
and sizes, some being pretty friggin' scary, would be attracted to the
light inside the house. We'd be overrun.

Don't 'cha just love the smell of a large fried moth on a 300 Watts
Halogen Torchiere?

I live in two places, one of which is extraordinarily bug-free. The
other one less so but either way I'm more likely to see a skunk or
raccoon wandering in through an open door than a bug. Agreed about the
Hologen Fried Moths, though.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On Jun 18, 2:36 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
Roger Shoaf wrote:
I would
tend to agree with Mrs. Hamilton's position that it is incontinent
to have to open the door wide to open the storm.

Incontinent?

Well, yeah, I guess if I were in a hurry to use the loo and had to
fiddle with a kludge door arrangement...

Luckily, our front yard is screened by shrubs. I could probably
get away with it.

Cindy Hamilton

you know, posters are always asking for pictures....