Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen Really don't need a lot of
bells etc. But would like a digital tuner . I see many crt sets for under
$200 and I now see Sylvania has a LCD set with rectangular screen for about
$240.
I don't feel wide screen is that big a deal ,but taking the weight and
location of the set(up on a wall mount) I am considering the Sylvania.
Any advice?
Frank

"Frank" wrote in message
...
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen Really don't need a lot of
bells etc. But would like a digital tuner . I see many crt sets for under
$200 and I now see Sylvania has a LCD set with rectangular screen for
about $240.
I don't feel wide screen is that big a deal ,but taking the weight and
location of the set(up on a wall mount) I am considering the Sylvania.
Any advice?

LCD TVs are very nice ... but don't know anything about Sylvania. These old
brands (like RCA) have little or no connection to the original companies.

Check the:

1/ Warranty offered
2/ Repair situation (one cannot get parts for some sets now offered)
3/ Ratings and customer satisfaction (Google might be very helpful here)

Frank wrote:
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen Really don't need a lot of
bells etc. But would like a digital tuner . I see many crt sets for under
$200 and I now see Sylvania has a LCD set with rectangular screen for about
$240.
I don't feel wide screen is that big a deal ,but taking the weight and
location of the set(up on a wall mount) I am considering the Sylvania.
Any advice?
Frank


Bought a 15 inch Sylvania LCD for the kitchen last year. Cost about
$200. We like it. With the HD thing coming on you might also take it
into consideration with any new TV.

Frank

In article ,
Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Frank wrote:
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen Really don't need a lot of
bells etc. But would like a digital tuner . I see many crt sets for under
$200 and I now see Sylvania has a LCD set with rectangular screen for
about
$240.
I don't feel wide screen is that big a deal ,but taking the weight and
location of the set(up on a wall mount) I am considering the Sylvania.
Any advice?
Frank


Bought a 15 inch Sylvania LCD for the kitchen last year. Cost about
$200. We like it. With the HD thing coming on you might also take it
into consideration with any new TV.

Frank

Although if you are on cable that might be less of a problem. Last
I heard they were going to have to offer converters. With such a big
base, it would seem to be in their best interests.

I am considering the Sylvania.
Any advice?
Frank

I have only bought one Sylvania product in my life and I will NEVER
EVER buy another one. It was junk and CS was non existence.


Good Luck,

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:14:19 -0500, "Charles"
wrote:


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen Really don't need a lot of
bells etc. But would like a digital tuner . I see many crt sets for under
$200 and I now see Sylvania has a LCD set with rectangular screen for
about $240.
I don't feel wide screen is that big a deal ,but taking the weight and
location of the set(up on a wall mount) I am considering the Sylvania.
Any advice?

LCD TVs are very nice ... but don't know anything about Sylvania. These old
brands (like RCA) have little or no connection to the original companies.


Current RCAs seem unreliable. Sylvania looks good.

Check the:

1/ Warranty offered
2/ Repair situation (one cannot get parts for some sets now offered)
3/ Ratings and customer satisfaction (Google might be very helpful here)

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-- Benjamin Franklin

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:22:06 -0500, "Mark" wrote:

On February 17, 2009, federal law requires that all full-power television
broadcast stations stop broadcasting in analog format and broadcast only in
digital format. So if your new TV doesn't have a digital tuner you will
need a converter box to receive anything, even just plan over the air
broadcasts.


You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.


"Frank" wrote in message
...
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen Really don't need a lot of
bells etc. But would like a digital tuner . I see many crt sets for under
$200 and I now see Sylvania has a LCD set with rectangular screen for
about $240.
I don't feel wide screen is that big a deal ,but taking the weight and
location of the set(up on a wall mount) I am considering the Sylvania.
Any advice?
Frank

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http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

Bull. Never happen..

too many analog tv's out there to expect that. It's been a rumor for two
years or more now and rumor is just what it is.


s


"Mark" wrote in message
...
On February 17, 2009, federal law requires that all full-power television
broadcast stations stop broadcasting in analog format and broadcast only
in digital format. So if your new TV doesn't have a digital tuner you
will need a converter box to receive anything, even just plan over the air
broadcasts.

On Nov 19, 7:07�pm, "Steve Barker" wrote:
Bull. �Never happen..

too many analog tv's out there to expect that. � It's been a rumor for two
years or more now and rumor is just what it is.

s

"Mark" wrote in message

...



On February 17, 2009, federal law requires that all full-power television
broadcast stations stop broadcasting in analog format and broadcast only
in digital format. �So if your new TV doesn't have a digital tuner you
will need a converter box to receive anything, even just plan over the air
broadcasts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

if your on cable or satellite the end of analog will be a non issue
when it occurs and I seriously doubt it will be before 2015. the end
of analog was all about reselling the bandwidth to make the federal
deficit smaller.

with the iraq war costs the $$$ for bandwidth is a drop in the bucket.

incidently high def sets smaller than 30 inches will see little if any
picture quality change. only larger screens will really see a big
difference

In article ,
"Steve Barker" wrote:

Bull. Never happen..

too many analog tv's out there to expect that. It's been a rumor for two
years or more now and rumor is just what it is.


s
Actually it is a law. Now whether Congresscritters will come along and
play games with the deadline as it gets nearer is anyone's guess. Look
at the all the hooha with "deadline" for passports in the Caribbean and
Mexico...both of them.

"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:22:06 -0500, "Mark" wrote:

On February 17, 2009, federal law requires that all full-power television
broadcast stations stop broadcasting in analog format and broadcast only
in
digital format. So if your new TV doesn't have a digital tuner you will
need a converter box to receive anything, even just plan over the air
broadcasts.


You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.

Which won't exist after 2/17/2009. So you may "want the analog channels"
but there won't be any.

"Steve Barker" wrote in message
...
Bull. Never happen..

too many analog tv's out there to expect that. It's been a rumor for two
years or more now and rumor is just what it is.

Barring major legislation it definitely will. It was originally scheduled to
happen in 2006 but kept getting delayed by nervous politicians. The 2009
date is often referred to as the "drop dead" date for analog broadcasts.
Now keep in mind that about 80% of the population gets TV signals via cable
or satellite. In both cases the provider will provide the conversion. But
don't expect to receive over-the-air analog broadcasts come early 2009.

In article , Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Frank wrote:
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen
[snip]
Bought a 15 inch Sylvania LCD for the kitchen last year.
[snip]

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here trying to figure out why in hell anybody would
want a TV in his kitchen.

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It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Frank wrote:
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen
[snip]
Bought a 15 inch Sylvania LCD for the kitchen last year.
[snip]

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here trying to figure out why in hell anybody would
want a TV in his kitchen.

For those of us who live alone, so we can watch the news while we eat
dinner and read the paper.

If anybody else lived here, I would of course talk to them instead.

aem sends...

Here's the latest on dtv, I'm waiting for the local on-air
stations to give away boxes. It happened back in the UHF
days. You'll just be SOL with your battery/portable sets.
The gument set aside 1 1/2 BILLION for education/converters,
but that's only 1 percent of the annual BUSH WAR cost ;-)

http://www.dtv.gov/consumercorner.html

-larry / dallas

Well maybe as to not miss a show whilst cooking. Or maybe watching the
morning news (for those who watch news) during breakfast. Just a couple of
possibilities i can think of. Have you seen the new 'friges with a tv
screen in them?

s


"Doug Miller" wrote in message
. ..

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here trying to figure out why in hell anybody would
want a TV in his kitchen.

--
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Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

"DonC" writes:

You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.

Which won't exist after 2/17/2009. So you may "want the analog channels"
but there won't be any.

Which analog channels are you referring to? There won't be any
over-the-air analog channels, but there may still be analog channels on
cable. The cable system already receives those broadcasts and
translates them to a different frequency for retransmission on cable.
All they have to do to continue distributing those channels in analog is
receive them with a digital receiver, then feed it to an analog TV
modulator for distribution.

If they don't do this, all their customers using analog tuners (no
digital box) to receive cable will scream.

Dave

Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Frank wrote:
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen
[snip]
Bought a 15 inch Sylvania LCD for the kitchen last year.
[snip]

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here trying to figure out why in hell anybody would
want a TV in his kitchen.

Are you married? My wife would want one in every room if I could string
cable to it. As it is we only have in six rooms.

Once rented a hotel room in DC that had a TV in the bathroom. It was on
a swivel wall mount so you could view no matter what you were doing there

Frank

On Nov 20, 2:52 am, (Dave Martindale) wrote:
"DonC" writes:
You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.
Which won't exist after 2/17/2009. So you may "want the analog channels"
but there won't be any.

Which analog channels are you referring to? There won't be any
over-the-air analog channels, but there may still be analog channels on
cable. The cable system already receives those broadcasts and
translates them to a different frequency for retransmission on cable.
All they have to do to continue distributing those channels in analog is
receive them with a digital receiver, then feed it to an analog TV
modulator for distribution.

If they don't do this, all their customers using analog tuners (no
digital box) to receive cable will scream.

Dave


Yes, that's what will happen. The cable companies aren't going to
alienate their customer base and if you receive NTSC via cable today,
you will continue to be able to do so. There might be an exception
somewhere and you could check with your own cable company.

The level of misinformation out there on this is incredible. In
addition to claiming that cable customers will be affected, in this
thread we have a post claiming the NTSC over the air broadcasting turn
off is just a rumor. It's a plan that has been determined by
Congress and in place for years. Now the date may get pushed out
again, but that is far different from claiming it's a rumor.

As far as the OP buying a new TV, any new TV manufactured today is
required to have an ATSC tuner in it.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:37:07 -0700, "DonC"
wrote:


"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:22:06 -0500, "Mark" wrote:

On February 17, 2009, federal law requires that all full-power television
broadcast stations stop broadcasting in analog format and broadcast only
in
digital format. So if your new TV doesn't have a digital tuner you will
need a converter box to receive anything, even just plan over the air
broadcasts.


You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.

Which won't exist after 2/17/2009. So you may "want the analog channels"
but there won't be any.


Not True. The law is just about terrestrial OTA and says nothing about
cable. In fact, I heard something about cable systems being REQUIRED
to provide analog service until at least 2012.
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in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:07:43 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Nov 19, 7:07?pm, "Steve Barker" wrote:
Bull. ?Never happen..

too many analog tv's out there to expect that. ? It's been a rumor for two
years or more now and rumor is just what it is.

s

"Mark" wrote in message

...



On February 17, 2009, federal law requires that all full-power television
broadcast stations stop broadcasting in analog format and broadcast only
in digital format. ?So if your new TV doesn't have a digital tuner you
will need a converter box to receive anything, even just plan over the air
broadcasts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

if your on cable or satellite the end of analog will be a non issue
when it occurs and I seriously doubt it will be before 2015.

I agree with that prediction.

the end
of analog was all about reselling the bandwidth to make the federal
deficit smaller.

with the iraq war costs the $$$ for bandwidth is a drop in the bucket.

incidently high def sets smaller than 30 inches will see little if any
picture quality change. only larger screens will really see a big
difference

You're likely to notice the more stable color.
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in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:41:56 -0700, "DonC"
wrote:


"Steve Barker" wrote in message
m...
Bull. Never happen..

too many analog tv's out there to expect that. It's been a rumor for two
years or more now and rumor is just what it is.

Barring major legislation it definitely will. It was originally scheduled to
happen in 2006 but kept getting delayed by nervous politicians. The 2009
date is often referred to as the "drop dead" date for analog broadcasts.
Now keep in mind that about 80% of the population gets TV signals via cable
or satellite. In both cases the provider will provide the conversion. But
don't expect to receive over-the-air analog broadcasts come early 2009.


Strange how many people assume the law isn't limited (as it is) to
OTA.
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"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:26:51 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

In article , Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Frank wrote:
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen
[snip]
Bought a 15 inch Sylvania LCD for the kitchen last year.
[snip]

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here trying to figure out why in hell anybody would
want a TV in his kitchen.

Some want one in the bathroom too.
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http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:34:46 -0500, Frank
frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Frank wrote:
Need to replace a 19"TV we have in our kitchen
[snip]
Bought a 15 inch Sylvania LCD for the kitchen last year.
[snip]

Meanwhile, I'm sitting here trying to figure out why in hell anybody would
want a TV in his kitchen.

Are you married? My wife would want one in every room if I could string
cable to it. As it is we only have in six rooms.

Once rented a hotel room in DC that had a TV in the bathroom. It was on
a swivel wall mount so you could view no matter what you were doing there

Frank

Mine is viewable from both tub and toilet. I don't use it much for
broadcasts, but for monitoring the security camera at the front door.
It helps to know when it's worth answering the door.
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"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:45:04 -0800 (PST),
" wrote:

I am considering the Sylvania.
Any advice?
Frank

I have only bought one Sylvania product in my life and I will NEVER
EVER buy another one. It was junk and CS was non existence.


Good Luck,

Expect bad or nonexistent CS with any brand. Hope you don't need it.
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in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

writes:

On Nov 20, 2:52 am, (Dave Martindale) wrote:
"DonC" writes:
You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.
Which won't exist after 2/17/2009. So you may "want the analog channels"
but there won't be any.

Which analog channels are you referring to? There won't be any
over-the-air analog channels, but there may still be analog channels on
cable. The cable system already receives those broadcasts and
translates them to a different frequency for retransmission on cable.
All they have to do to continue distributing those channels in analog is
receive them with a digital receiver, then feed it to an analog TV
modulator for distribution.

If they don't do this, all their customers using analog tuners (no
digital box) to receive cable will scream.

Yes, that's what will happen. The cable companies aren't going to
alienate their customer base

Uh, you're trying to tell me Comcast will miss an opportunity to
alienate their customer base? I find that hard to believe.

Seriously, at some point, not long after the conversion,
the cable companies will want to rid themselves of the digital
to analogue conversion. It will allow them to deliver more
channels and save costs. Not to mention collect rental on
set top boxes.

Some providers (like Verizon FIOS) are all digital now.
I switched to FIOS last week and the Verizon trucks are all
over town.

On Nov 20, 11:10 am, Dan Espen
wrote:
writes:
On Nov 20, 2:52 am, (Dave Martindale) wrote:
"DonC" writes:
You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.
Which won't exist after 2/17/2009. So you may "want the analog channels"
but there won't be any.

Which analog channels are you referring to? There won't be any
over-the-air analog channels, but there may still be analog channels on
cable. The cable system already receives those broadcasts and
translates them to a different frequency for retransmission on cable.
All they have to do to continue distributing those channels in analog is
receive them with a digital receiver, then feed it to an analog TV
modulator for distribution.

If they don't do this, all their customers using analog tuners (no
digital box) to receive cable will scream.

Yes, that's what will happen. The cable companies aren't going to
alienate their customer base

Uh, you're trying to tell me Comcast will miss an opportunity to
alienate their customer base? I find that hard to believe.

Seriously, at some point, not long after the conversion,
the cable companies will want to rid themselves of the digital
to analogue conversion. It will allow them to deliver more
channels and save costs. Not to mention collect rental on
set top boxes.

It's not like they have 100 monkies sitting in a big building doing
the conversion. The hardware is simple and straightforward and isn't
a significant cost. They would free up some more bandwidth, but I'm
not sure having a few local channels in NTSC makes that big of a
difference.

It's true they could try to use that as an excuse to force folks into
getting a box that currently don't use one. But I don't see any
indication that's going to happen. Plus, being highly regulated,
there may be roadblocks to them doing it as well.




Some providers (like Verizon FIOS) are all digital now.
I switched to FIOS last week and the Verizon trucks are all
over town.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Nov 20, 2:55 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:09:39 -0800 (PST), wrote:
Yes, that's what will happen. The cable companies aren't going to
alienate their customer base and if you receive NTSC via cable today,
you will continue to be able to do so. There might be an exception
somewhere and you could check with your own cable company.

Comcast is already discontinuing analog in some big cities. You only
get the "must carry" stations. (pretty much what you get with an
antenna).

Hmmm, isn;t that exactly what we're talking about? Receiving the
local OTA stations via cable? No one suggested you can get ESPN or
Disney without a cable box or card.


They want the bandwidth back too. You have to rent a box to
use your analog TV.

In article ,
(Doug Miller) wrote:

I'm sitting here trying to figure out why in hell anybody would
want a TV in his kitchen.

It's a productivity thing, Doug.

While I'm making the coffee, working the dishwasher or any number of other
things I do in that room, I don't have to miss the best parts of The History
Channel's "History of Concrete" episode of Modern Marvels.

Life is good.
--

JR

In article ,
Mark Lloyd wrote:

It helps to know when it's worth answering the door.

That's easy: ONLY if it's Ed McMahon with a TV crew.
--

JR

In article ,
Dan Espen wrote:

Uh, you're trying to tell me Comcast will miss an opportunity to
alienate their customer base? I find that hard to believe.

ARGH!! [ROFL] You should give advance "spew" warnings for such statements!
--

JR

Dave Martindale wrote:
Which analog channels are you referring to? There won't be any
over-the-air analog channels, but there may still be analog channels on
cable. The cable system already receives those broadcasts and
translates them to a different frequency for retransmission on cable.
All they have to do to continue distributing those channels in analog is
receive them with a digital receiver, then feed it to an analog TV
modulator for distribution.

I believe the Congress has specifically prohibited that.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6295306.html

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Mark Lloyd wrote:
Not True. The law is just about terrestrial OTA and says nothing about
cable. In fact, I heard something about cable systems being REQUIRED
to provide analog service until at least 2012.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6295306.html

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On Nov 20, 7:51 pm, clifto wrote:
Dave Martindale wrote:
Which analog channels are you referring to? There won't be any
over-the-air analog channels, but there may still be analog channels on
cable. The cable system already receives those broadcasts and
translates them to a different frequency for retransmission on cable.
All they have to do to continue distributing those channels in analog is
receive them with a digital receiver, then feed it to an analog TV
modulator for distribution.

I believe the Congress has specifically prohibited that.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6295306.html

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Well, it sure looks like you guys are right. The article referenced
doesn't say if the bill was signed into law by Bush, but assuming it
was and nothing has changed since, then it looks like analog over
cable is kaput in Feb 09.

It's amazing the politics and God knows what else factors into this.
And surprisingly, it's the broadcasters that insisted on this, not the
cable companies? Makes no sense to me. It would seem if the cable
companies wanted to take the digital signals and rebroadcast them as
analog to keep people happy and watching, that the broadcasters would
benefit. I really don't understand why broadcasters have a beef with
cable continuing to supply analog.

Looks like bottom line is if you have any sets using analog cable
without a cable box, you're going to have to get one in another year.

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:10:12 GMT, Dan Espen
wrote:

writes:

On Nov 20, 2:52 am, (Dave Martindale) wrote:
"DonC" writes:
You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.
Which won't exist after 2/17/2009. So you may "want the analog channels"
but there won't be any.

Which analog channels are you referring to? There won't be any
over-the-air analog channels, but there may still be analog channels on
cable. The cable system already receives those broadcasts and
translates them to a different frequency for retransmission on cable.
All they have to do to continue distributing those channels in analog is
receive them with a digital receiver, then feed it to an analog TV
modulator for distribution.

If they don't do this, all their customers using analog tuners (no
digital box) to receive cable will scream.

Yes, that's what will happen. The cable companies aren't going to
alienate their customer base

Uh, you're trying to tell me Comcast will miss an opportunity to
alienate their customer base? I find that hard to believe.

Seriously, at some point, not long after the conversion,
the cable companies will want to rid themselves of the digital
to analogue conversion. It will allow them to deliver more
channels and save costs. Not to mention collect rental on
set top boxes.

Some providers (like Verizon FIOS) are all digital now.
I switched to FIOS last week and the Verizon trucks are all
over town.

I may be interested in FIOS if it ever becomes available here. The
local phone company is Verizon.
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"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:24:48 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

Strange how many people assume the law isn't limited (as it is) to
OTA.


It isn't what the law is limited to, it is what the cableco can get
away with. As I said above, Comcast, the general scum of the earth, is
already cutting off analog for anything that isn't "must carry". That
is basically what you could get with a coathanger.

Some people don't get to experience Comcast
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"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:33:26 -0600, Jim Redelfs
wrote:

In article ,
Mark Lloyd wrote:

It helps to know when it's worth answering the door.

That's easy: ONLY if it's Ed McMahon with a TV crew.

and NOT this guy who's wanting money for something bad (cocaine?), or
strangers carrying bibles.
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"I have found Christian dogma unintelligable. Early
in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."
-- Benjamin Franklin

"Mark Lloyd" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:59:28 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:24:48 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

Strange how many people assume the law isn't limited (as it is) to
OTA.


It isn't what the law is limited to, it is what the cableco can get
away with. As I said above, Comcast, the general scum of the earth, is
already cutting off analog for anything that isn't "must carry". That
is basically what you could get with a coathanger.

Some people don't get to experience Comcast


Some people experience Comcast's arrogance and then move on to more friendly
territory. I switched from them to Dish Network but was stuck with them for
internet service.

I now live in a town with two internet providers - Cox and Quest - and the
competition is great for the customer. Both also provide telephone service
so prices are low and the service is great. I still have Dish Network 'cuz
the HDTV content and HD-DVR offerings are much better.

"Dan Espen" wrote in message
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writes:

On Nov 20, 2:52 am, (Dave Martindale) wrote:
"DonC" writes:
You won't need a converter for cable if you just want the analog
channels.
Which won't exist after 2/17/2009. So you may "want the analog
channels"
but there won't be any.

Which analog channels are you referring to? There won't be any
over-the-air analog channels, but there may still be analog channels on
cable. The cable system already receives those broadcasts and
translates them to a different frequency for retransmission on cable.
All they have to do to continue distributing those channels in analog is
receive them with a digital receiver, then feed it to an analog TV
modulator for distribution.

If they don't do this, all their customers using analog tuners (no
digital box) to receive cable will scream.

Yes, that's what will happen. The cable companies aren't going to
alienate their customer base

Uh, you're trying to tell me Comcast will miss an opportunity to
alienate their customer base? I find that hard to believe.

Seriously, at some point, not long after the conversion,
the cable companies will want to rid themselves of the digital
to analogue conversion. It will allow them to deliver more
channels and save costs. Not to mention collect rental on
set top boxes.

Some providers (like Verizon FIOS) are all digital now.
I switched to FIOS last week and the Verizon trucks are all
over town.

A Digital signal is wonderful right? WRONG. Some astute little prick already
took out a patent that will stop you from changing channel
when a commercial comes on. You will be able to watch the shows commercial
free for a fee. I get a queasy stomach just thinking about
some system that tell me I can't do something, I have enough of that with my
wife )

Claude

" Some astute little prick already
took out a patent that will stop you from changing channel
when a commercial comes on. You will be able to watch the shows commercial
free for a fee. Claude


Can you give us a link supporting your post?