I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo. The
other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage room
with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C unit is
17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know how to
create the opening without compromising the strength of the wall. Are
there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look? Thanks.

Yuo want the other side to be outside, not on an inside room.

On May 9, 8:54 am, wrote:
Yuo want the other side to be outside, not on an inside room.

The storage unit is basically a unfinished 4x4 room with concrete
floors with a door to the outside that will be left open.

On May 9, 11:43 am, wrote:
I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo. The
other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage room
with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C unit is
17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know how to
create the opening without compromising the strength of the wall. Are
there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look? Thanks.

Get any book on window framing and see how the openings are made and
you will be OK. Practice your toenailing technique to get a neat job
and choose some better-than-box-store lumber for the new opening.
For your maximum efficiency consider some permanent venting in the
storage room, like a high up louvered opening and a ground level vent
to supply cool air. HTH

Joe

On May 9, 11:00 am, Joe wrote:
On May 9, 11:43 am, wrote:

I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo. The
other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage room
with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C unit is
17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know how to
create the opening without compromising the strength of the wall. Are
there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look? Thanks.

Get any book on window framing and see how the openings are made and
you will be OK. Practice your toenailing technique to get a neat job
and choose some better-than-box-store lumber for the new opening.
For your maximum efficiency consider some permanent venting in the
storage room, like a high up louvered opening and a ground level vent
to supply cool air. HTH

Joe

Thanks.

wrote:
On May 9, 8:54 am, wrote:
Yuo want the other side to be outside, not on an inside room.

The storage unit is basically a unfinished 4x4 room with concrete
floors with a door to the outside that will be left open.

Don't forget about the water byproduct. Even if you put a bucket
under the unit you will have water splatter - forget to empty the
bucket and you've got a mess.

Red

On May 9, 12:50 pm, Red wrote:
wrote:
On May 9, 8:54 am, wrote:
Yuo want the other side to be outside, not on an inside room.

The storage unit is basically a unfinished 4x4 room with concrete
floors with a door to the outside that will be left open.

Don't forget about the water byproduct. Even if you put a bucket
under the unit you will have water splatter - forget to empty the
bucket and you've got a mess.

Red

I plan on running a tube of sorts out of the room.

wrote:
I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo.
The other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage
room with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C
unit is 17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know
how to create the opening without compromising the strength of the
wall. Are there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look?
Thanks.

You own the storage room too? If not - even if you do - you need to
check with your condo board of directors. One owns the interior
surface of one's walls, not the outside...they are common property and
may not normally be changed.


--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

On May 9, 11:00 am, Joe wrote:
On May 9, 11:43 am, wrote:

I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo. The
other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage room
with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C unit is
17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know how to
create the opening without compromising the strength of the wall. Are
there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look? Thanks.

Get any book on window framing and see how the openings are made and
you will be OK.

Very helpful picture he
http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/w...ro_framing.htm

Jerry

On May 9, 1:36 pm, "dadiOH" wrote:
wrote:
I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo.
The other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage
room with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C
unit is 17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know
how to create the opening without compromising the strength of the
wall. Are there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look?
Thanks.

You own the storage room too? If not - even if you do - you need to
check with your condo board of directors. One owns the interior
surface of one's walls, not the outside...they are common property and
may not normally be changed.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico

Well that's the problem. They won't allow any wall or window a/c units
to be installed on an outside wall, which sucks as it gets hot and
humid during the summer. I plan on uninstalling the unit when I sell
and patching the wall up.

On 9 May 2007 13:57:37 -0700, wrote:

On May 9, 1:36 pm, "dadiOH" wrote:
wrote:
I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo.
The other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage
room with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C
unit is 17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know
how to create the opening without compromising the strength of the
wall. Are there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look?
Thanks.

If you are only trying to cool one room, I would think almost any AC
would be big enoug, but... bearing in mind that I don't know much
about this, I'm wondering if you will need bigger than minimum.

The output froom the AC will still heat the air in the little room
even if the door is open. And that will make the AC less efficient, I
think, because the cooler the air outside or in the closet, the better
the AC works. I suppose that it might actually be cooler in the
little room than it is outside now. Will it stay that way? I would
think not. I would think it would become hotter than would be an
ouside area that surrounds an room AC.

wrote:
On May 9, 8:54 am, wrote:

Yuo want the other side to be outside, not on an inside room.


The storage unit is basically a unfinished 4x4 room with concrete
floors with a door to the outside that will be left open.


It won't work as you expect. Insufficient air flow in the shed, even with
the door open. You will prematurely wear out your AC unit, and if you
are honest about it with the manufacturer, will void any warranty.

Given the games you are apparently willing to play with your condo
assoc board, and the games which you apparently willing to play
with everybody elses' property values, neither honesty nor integrity
appear to be big issue with you.

I'm sure glad you are not my neighbor.

On May 9, 3:39 pm, jJim McLaughlin wrote:
wrote:
On May 9, 8:54 am, wrote:

Yuo want the other side to be outside, not on an inside room.

The storage unit is basically a unfinished 4x4 room with concrete
floors with a door to the outside that will be left open.

It won't work as you expect. Insufficient air flow in the shed, even with
the door open. You will prematurely wear out your AC unit, and if you
are honest about it with the manufacturer, will void any warranty.

Given the games you are apparently willing to play with your condo
assoc board, and the games which you apparently willing to play
with everybody elses' property values, neither honesty nor integrity
appear to be big issue with you.

I'm sure glad you are not my neighbor.

I am glad you are not mine as well. Your presumptuous attitude really
stinks. I play no games. The only rules about a/c units in the cc&rs
is that a wall or window mounted a/c unit can not be visible on an
exterior wall. Maybe talk to your doctor about lowering the dosage,
it's not doing you any good.

Condos just suck but since the OP is stuck how is he supposed to be
cool?


On May 9, 7:39 pm, jJim McLaughlin wrote:
wrote:
On May 9, 8:54 am, wrote:

Yuo want the other side to be outside, not on an inside room.

The storage unit is basically a unfinished 4x4 room with concrete
floors with a door to the outside that will be left open.

It won't work as you expect. Insufficient air flow in the shed, even with
the door open. You will prematurely wear out your AC unit, and if you
are honest about it with the manufacturer, will void any warranty.

Given the games you are apparently willing to play with your condo
assoc board, and the games which you apparently willing to play
with everybody elses' property values, neither honesty nor integrity
appear to be big issue with you.

I'm sure glad you are not my neighbor.

On 9 May 2007 13:57:37 -0700, wrote:

On May 9, 1:36 pm, "dadiOH" wrote:
wrote:
I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo.
The other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage
room with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C
unit is 17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know
how to create the opening without compromising the strength of the
wall. Are there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look?
Thanks.

Do you have AC in the rest of the apartment? Maybe they'll ltet you
put a little fanr in the duct so that more of it gets to the bedroom.
They make fans for that purpose. Maybe with a switch so that you can
turn it off when you want more in the rest of the place.

There are also regular fans that would go in the door way and blow
cool air from the rest of the apartment.

I'm not sure how you would be hurting everyone's property values like
jjim says (nor am I sure you're not. I don't understand his point
yet.) but it still started me thinking of other methods.

I can't imainge your apartment doesn't have AC AND they won't let you
put one in. Personnally, unless I could cool the room off before I
went to sleep, and then leave the ac off all night, I would not want
one in the room with me. But if you are going to leave the central
air on all night anyway, there should be a way to get more cool air
from it.


OT: I don't even like the noise my central air makes, but my furnace
is old. Someday when I get a newer one, I guess it will have a slower
fan speed.

But today a neighbor was getting a new furnace and I scrounged all the
parts I wanted from her old one. I only wanted the control box, but
it was screwed to the oil pump and blower, and spark transformer, etc.
It may keep my furnace going a couple years longer than otherwise,
depeding on what breaks.)

You own the storage room too? If not - even if you do - you need to
check with your condo board of directors. One owns the interior
surface of one's walls, not the outside...they are common property and
may not normally be changed.

wrote:
Condos just suck but since the OP is stuck how is he supposed to be
cool?

Move.

He bought it knowing it was a condo. Nobody held a gun to his head.

He should have noticed if there was already central air or window / wall
units.

If there weren't, he had the opportunity.

Now, just becuse he's inconvenienced oruncomfortabe, he wants
to ignore the agreements he made when he bought th ondo
regarding rules, etc

Sounds a lot like Paris Hilton to me.

"mm" wrote in message

The output froom the AC will still heat the air in the little room
even if the door is open. And that will make the AC less efficient, I
think, because the cooler the air outside or in the closet, the better
the AC works. I suppose that it might actually be cooler in the
little room than it is outside now. Will it stay that way? I would
think not. I would think it would become hotter than would be an
ouside area that surrounds an room AC.

My office is cooled in a similar manner. I have a small AC through the wall
and it vents into what used to be a closet under a stairway. It has been in
there for the past 10 years. It works, what else is needed?

wrote in message
ups.com...
I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo. The
other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage room
with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C unit is
17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know how to
create the opening without compromising the strength of the wall. Are
there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look? Thanks.


This is a fairly simple job. If I read the thread correctly, the opposite
side of the wall in open studs, making it easier to work around.

You have to make a box to hold the AC and the studs. One stud has to be cut
so you have to put a horizontal piece on the top and the bottom of the
opening. They can be tied into the studs on either side and supported with
stringers. Take a look at a book that shows framing around a window and you
want to make a similar setup.

Mount the AC level and you should have no problems with water dripping. You
said you will run tubing, but you really don't want to do that for two
reasons:
1. If you drill a hole in the bottom of the pan, you may hit the coil and
ruin the Ac to trash. It happens often.
2. The fan is designed to take the condensate and sling the water against
the heated coil. This evaporates the water and helps cool the coil for
better efficiency.

You may want to consider putting a small fan in the storage room to help
blow out the hot air and bring in cooler air.

I see some negatives posted by others about this setup, but it will work.
My office at work is inside the manufacturing plant and the AC vents into
it. It is also a very hot plant as we use steam for our process. The AC
still works though. In the same building, there are a few other business
that have similar setups with much larger units.

It will be easy enough to remove the AC and drywall over the opening later.
Some paint and it will be invisible.

In article ,
jJim McLaughlin wrote:
Now, just becuse he's inconvenienced oruncomfortabe, he wants
to ignore the agreements he made when he bought th ondo
regarding rules, etc

Sounds a lot like Paris Hilton to me.

Could you please post the details of those agreements? Thanks.


--
--Tim Smith

On Wed, 9 May 2007 22:06:09 -0400, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:


I see some negatives posted by others about this setup, but it will work.
My office at work is inside the manufacturing plant and the AC vents into
it. It is also a very hot plant as we use steam for our process. The AC

I actually forgot about that. Almost every plant I've seen has an air
conditioned office in the middle of it somewhere, and they often
haven't a single wall or ceiling that touches an outside wall or roof.

I wonder if the workers realize that not only are you cool, but you're
making them hotter. Probably, but they're tough.

still works though. In the same building, there are a few other business
that have similar setups with much larger units.

It will be easy enough to remove the AC and drywall over the opening later.
Some paint and it will be invisible.

On Wed, 09 May 2007 18:37:49 -0700, jJim McLaughlin
wrote:

wrote:
Condos just suck but since the OP is stuck how is he supposed to be
cool?

Move.

He bought it knowing it was a condo. Nobody held a gun to his head.

He should have noticed if there was already central air or window / wall
units.

If there weren't, he had the opportunity.

Now, just becuse he's inconvenienced oruncomfortabe, he wants
to ignore the agreements he made when he bought th ondo
regarding rules, etc

Sounds a lot like Paris Hilton to me.

That's not fair. I never installed an air conditioner in my life.

PH

Well that's the problem. They won't allow any wall or window a/c units
to be installed on an outside wall, which sucks as it gets hot and
humid during the summer. I plan on uninstalling the unit when I sell
and patching the wall up.- Hide quoted text -


Then get one of those portable A/C units. Like this one:

http://www.brookstone.com/bs_assets/...0/346734_p.jpg

On 9 May 2007 09:43:50 -0700, wrote:

I want to install a small wall A/C unit in a bedroom of my condo. The
other side of the wall I will install the unit in is a storage room
with no drywall. The studs are spaced 16" apart and the A/C unit is
17-18" wide. I am handy with saws, etc. I just don't know how to
create the opening without compromising the strength of the wall. Are
there any tutorials or pictures on how this should look? Thanks.

I don't think this is going to work as well as you want it to, and
leaving that door open is a standing invitation to theives, vermin,
and weather problems. Does your condo agreement prevent you
from venting out the attic? Are your water rates low enough
that you could install a water-cooled heat exchanger and just
dump the hot water out the drain?

On Thu, 10 May 2007 00:07:49 -0400,
wrote:

Sounds a lot like Paris Hilton to me.

That's not fair. I never installed an air conditioner in my life.

PH

Wow! You use the same keyboard as another poster :-))
--
Oren

...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo..