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Question for our leftpondian cousins. Do you have trouble with DIY fitted
headlamp bulbs over there ? Back in the day, we had simple bulbs that fitted in a simple holder, that fitted easily into the readily accessible reflector assembly. Then we went over to sealed beam units. Remember them ? Very expensive headlight-shaped bulbs. Still relatively easy to change though, usually fitting into a frame that carried the alignment screws, so no immediate realignment required. Now we've gone back to individual bulbs. Except there's now no holder as such, and the engine compartment is so full that you can barely get to the back of the reflector bowl. On top of that, they have put alignment tabs on the bulbs, and that's where the trouble really starts. I am sick to death of every second car on the road having one headlight pointing into the ditch, and the other pointing at the moon. Bad enough when they are coming at you from the other direction, but really annoying when you've got one behind you. It seems that this is caused by people trying to fit their own replacement bulbs, and not getting the tab to line up properly with the cut out in the reflector, making the bulb sit at an angle. They then manage to force at least one side of the metal clip in, and bodge the cap back on behind it. Friend of mine that works in a garage says that they see it every day. Coppers here are not interested in such things any more, even though having defective lighting on a car is illegal. So do you get the same problems over there now ? Is it similarly illegal (some states, all states ??) and are you likely to get pulled for it as you have dedicated highway police ? Just interested. Grumpy old man moment over :-) Arfa |
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Arfa Daily wrote:
Question for our leftpondian cousins. Do you have trouble with DIY fitted headlamp bulbs over there ? Not really. I find that it *does* take longer than I'd like to change a headlight bulb, but compared to the 'sealed beam' days, it's a piece of cake. I noticed on my friend's car, the manufacturer was not overly generous with 'service loop' on the bulb wiring, so it does take somewhat longer to finesse the harness position so as not to put an undue strain on the wiring. I do see that it is possible to get one of these misaligned but luckily, that is difficult to do if one is at all careful and patient. I've not touched a domestic car in a couple decades, so I don't know what challenges they offer WRT headlight service. If history is any guide, I assume you still have to remove the bumper of the car behind you to get sufficient access to service any part of a domestic car. ![]() --Winston |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:37:43 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
wrote: So do you get the same problems over there now ? Is it similarly illegal (some states, all states ??) and are you likely to get pulled for it as you have dedicated highway police ? Sure, we have the same problem. It's far from epidemic, but still irritating when I get blinded by such a vehicle. However, it's NOT being caused by the mis-installation of the bulbs by doi-it-thyself mechanics. Most such lamp holders, that I've seen, are fairly fool proof and immune to misalignment thanks to bayonnet type mounting. Instead, what I've seen are vehicles that have been in accidents, where one or both headlights have been misaligned by the collision. I'm sure the owner knows about the problem, but without major body work, is unable to fix the problem. Unfortunately, I don't have any statistics or personal experience with the current level of enforcement. I only have some experience from the 1960's, where the weight of the tube and dynamotor radios in my trunk, caused the rear leaf springs to flatten, thus causing the headlights to elevate well beyond their range of adjustment. I drove around like that for about 3 months before receiving the inevitable fixit ticket. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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When I had to change a bulb in my Chevrolet about five years ago, it went in
pretty easily, and the alignment was okay. Whatever problems I had were due to lack of familiarity, not something inherently bad with the system. |
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On Mar 12, 7:37*pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote:
Question for our leftpondian cousins. Do you have trouble with DIY fitted headlamp bulbs over there ? Back in the day, we had simple bulbs that fitted in a simple holder, that fitted easily into the readily accessible reflector assembly. Then we went over to sealed beam units. Remember them ? Very expensive headlight-shaped bulbs. Still relatively easy to change though, usually fitting into a frame that carried the alignment screws, so no immediate realignment required. What I miss most about the sealed beams is their glass lenses. Now I have cloudy plastic ones. Which were thoughtfully not designed to be consumer replaceable. The cost of new headlight assemblies is prohibitive. Now we've gone back to individual bulbs. Except there's now no holder as such, and the engine compartment is so full that you can barely get to the back of the reflector bowl. On top of that, they have put alignment tabs on the bulbs, and that's where the trouble really starts. I am sick to death of every second car on the road having one headlight pointing into the ditch, and the other pointing at the moon. Bad enough when they are coming at you from the other direction, but really annoying when you've got one behind you. It seems that this is caused by people trying to fit their own replacement bulbs, and not getting the tab to line up properly with the cut out in the reflector, making the bulb sit at an angle. They then manage to force at least one side of the metal clip in, and bodge the cap back on behind it. Friend of mine that works in a garage says that they see it every day. Coppers here are not interested in such things any more, even though having defective lighting on a car is illegal. My car's maker strongly discourages DIY replacement, to the point of not giving the bulb part numbers in the owners manual. Although supposedly they are more concerned about amateurs leaving fingerprints on the bulb, which will lead to cracking and "POOF!" On my car, the passenger side is easy: remove a plastic cover by popping a bail, then remove the bulb by popping another bail. The "base" is keyed to go in only one way, then swing the bail back to secure it, replace the plastic cover and away you go. I haven't noticed any mis-aiming. The driver's side is harder because the battery limits the clearance. So do you get the same problems over there now ? Is it similarly illegal (some states, all states ??) and are you likely to get pulled for it as you have dedicated highway police ? I see enough cars with only one headlight lit that I have to say enforcement is lax. |
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"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message
... When I had to change a bulb in my Chevrolet about five years ago, it went in pretty easily, and the alignment was okay. Whatever problems I had were due to lack of familiarity, not something inherently bad with the system. Just to add to the rant - I hate those eerie bluish headlights that seem to follow you like the eyes of a portrait in an old horror movie. ALSO hate overly bright headlights. Good for the person using them, bad for everyone else. I see some cars with up to SIX headlights. Another pet peeve. Mark Z. |
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I hate those eerie bluish headlights that seem to follow
you like the eyes of a portrait in an old horror movie. ALSO hate overly bright headlights. Good for the person using them, bad for everyone else. Aren't they the same? They're bad enough during the day, but at night they're positively blinding. I'm surprised they haven't been made illegal. |
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:37:43 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
wrote: Question for our leftpondian cousins. Do you have trouble with DIY fitted headlamp bulbs over there ? Back in the day, we had simple bulbs that fitted in a simple holder, that fitted easily into the readily accessible reflector assembly. Then we went over to sealed beam units. Remember them ? Very expensive headlight-shaped bulbs. Still relatively easy to change though, usually fitting into a frame that carried the alignment screws, so no immediate realignment required. Now we've gone back to individual bulbs. Except there's now no holder as such, and the engine compartment is so full that you can barely get to the back of the reflector bowl. On top of that, they have put alignment tabs on the bulbs, and that's where the trouble really starts. I am sick to death of every second car on the road having one headlight pointing into the ditch, and the other pointing at the moon. Bad enough when they are coming at you from the other direction, but really annoying when you've got one behind you. It seems that this is caused by people trying to fit their own replacement bulbs, and not getting the tab to line up properly with the cut out in the reflector, making the bulb sit at an angle. They then manage to force at least one side of the metal clip in, and bodge the cap back on behind it. Friend of mine that works in a garage says that they see it every day. Coppers here are not interested in such things any more, even though having defective lighting on a car is illegal. So do you get the same problems over there now ? Is it similarly illegal (some states, all states ??) and are you likely to get pulled for it as you have dedicated highway police ? Just interested. Grumpy old man moment over :-) Arfa Misaligned headlights are a common problem; enforcement is pretty hit or miss. My theory is it depends inf the officer is on a quota, gets points only for 'serious' charges, and got laid the night before. I've only had to replace one of the new style bulbs (but have replaced a number of the old style headlights). Since the vehicle in question has well over 120,000 miles, I'd say that isn't a terribly high failure rate. I'd say it's almost impossible to insert the bulb wrong, but it is understood that when something is made foolproof more persistant fools will come along. PlainBill |
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:54:22 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
wrote: On Mar 12, 7:37*pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote: Question for our leftpondian cousins. Do you have trouble with DIY fitted headlamp bulbs over there ? Back in the day, we had simple bulbs that fitted in a simple holder, that fitted easily into the readily accessible reflector assembly. Then we went over to sealed beam units. Remember them ? Very expensive headlight-shaped bulbs. Still relatively easy to change though, usually fitting into a frame that carried the alignment screws, so no immediate realignment required. What I miss most about the sealed beams is their glass lenses. Now I have cloudy plastic ones. Which were thoughtfully not designed to be consumer replaceable. The cost of new headlight assemblies is prohibitive. There is a better solution. Go down to your local automotive supply house and ask for a headlight lens restoration kit. They run from $15 to $20. Sears has one for $40. Or you can go to Walmart and pick up a kit and a 12-pack of your favorite beverage. You'll deserve it after polishing the headlight lens. PlainBill Now we've gone back to individual bulbs. Except there's now no holder as such, and the engine compartment is so full that you can barely get to the back of the reflector bowl. On top of that, they have put alignment tabs on the bulbs, and that's where the trouble really starts. I am sick to death of every second car on the road having one headlight pointing into the ditch, and the other pointing at the moon. Bad enough when they are coming at you from the other direction, but really annoying when you've got one behind you. It seems that this is caused by people trying to fit their own replacement bulbs, and not getting the tab to line up properly with the cut out in the reflector, making the bulb sit at an angle. They then manage to force at least one side of the metal clip in, and bodge the cap back on behind it. Friend of mine that works in a garage says that they see it every day. Coppers here are not interested in such things any more, even though having defective lighting on a car is illegal. My car's maker strongly discourages DIY replacement, to the point of not giving the bulb part numbers in the owners manual. Although supposedly they are more concerned about amateurs leaving fingerprints on the bulb, which will lead to cracking and "POOF!" On my car, the passenger side is easy: remove a plastic cover by popping a bail, then remove the bulb by popping another bail. The "base" is keyed to go in only one way, then swing the bail back to secure it, replace the plastic cover and away you go. I haven't noticed any mis-aiming. The driver's side is harder because the battery limits the clearance. So do you get the same problems over there now ? Is it similarly illegal (some states, all states ??) and are you likely to get pulled for it as you have dedicated highway police ? I see enough cars with only one headlight lit that I have to say enforcement is lax. |
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![]() "Jeff Liebermann" wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 02:37:43 -0000, "Arfa Daily" wrote: So do you get the same problems over there now ? Is it similarly illegal (some states, all states ??) and are you likely to get pulled for it as you have dedicated highway police ? Sure, we have the same problem. It's far from epidemic, but still irritating when I get blinded by such a vehicle. However, it's NOT being caused by the mis-installation of the bulbs by doi-it-thyself mechanics. Most such lamp holders, that I've seen, are fairly fool proof and immune to misalignment thanks to bayonnet type mounting. Instead, what I've seen are vehicles that have been in accidents, where one or both headlights have been misaligned by the collision. I'm sure the owner knows about the problem, but without major body work, is unable to fix the problem. Definitely not a crash damage problem. Far too many of them for that, and my buddy who works in a garage says that he sees wrongly fitted bulbs all the time. It's actually not that difficult to get them in wrong when you are working in a space that just about allows you to get two fingers in. The metal retaining clip can be hard to get back on under those conditions in the first place, and it only takes a little more force to get it to clip at least on one side, over a wrongly fitted bulb. I managed to do it on my son's car, but realised that I was only able to get one side on easily, and it didn't 'feel' right. I can see how kids without any experience, would give up with just one side latched, if the bulb appeared to be holding in there, and would figure that they must have got it right if it lit up ... Arfa |
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On Mar 13, 2:54*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:54:22 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 wrote: On Mar 12, 7:37*pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote: Question for our leftpondian cousins. Do you have trouble with DIY fitted headlamp bulbs over there ? Back in the day, we had simple bulbs that fitted in a simple holder, that fitted easily into the readily accessible reflector assembly. Then we went over to sealed beam units. Remember them ? Very expensive headlight-shaped bulbs. Still relatively easy to change though, usually fitting into a frame that carried the alignment screws, so no immediate realignment required. What I miss most about the sealed beams is their glass lenses. Now I have cloudy plastic ones. Which were thoughtfully not designed to be consumer replaceable. The cost of new headlight assemblies is prohibitive. There is a better solution. *Go down to your local automotive supply house and ask for a headlight lens restoration kit. *They run from $15 to $20. *Sears has one for $40. *Or you can go to Walmart and pick up a kit and a 12-pack of your favorite beverage. *You'll deserve it after polishing the headlight lens. PlainBill Now we've gone back to individual bulbs. Except there's now no holder as such, and the engine compartment is so full that you can barely get to the back of the reflector bowl. On top of that, they have put alignment tabs on the bulbs, and that's where the trouble really starts. I am sick to death of every second car on the road having one headlight pointing into the ditch, and the other pointing at the moon. Bad enough when they are coming at you from the other direction, but really annoying when you've got one behind you. It seems that this is caused by people trying to fit their own replacement bulbs, and not getting the tab to line up properly with the cut out in the reflector, making the bulb sit at an angle. They then manage to force at least one side of the metal clip in, and bodge the cap back on behind it. Friend of mine that works in a garage says that they see it every day. Coppers here are not interested in such things any more, even though having defective lighting on a car is illegal. My car's maker strongly discourages DIY replacement, to the point of not giving the bulb part numbers in the owners manual. Although supposedly they are more concerned about amateurs leaving fingerprints on the bulb, which will lead to cracking and "POOF!" On my car, the passenger side is easy: remove a plastic cover by popping a bail, then remove the bulb by popping another bail. The "base" is keyed to go in only one way, then swing the bail back to secure it, replace the plastic cover and away you go. I haven't noticed any mis-aiming. The driver's side is harder because the battery limits the clearance. So do you get the same problems over there now ? Is it similarly illegal (some states, all states ??) and are you likely to get pulled for it as you have dedicated highway police ? I see enough cars with only one headlight lit that I have to say enforcement is lax. These are the 'plastic' experts we've used for years: http://www.tapplastics.com TAP Plastics, San Leandro HQ 510 357 3755 TAP Plastics (408) 292 8685 1212 The Alameda San Jose, CA 95125 TAP Plastics Inc (408) 265-6400 1008 Blossom Hill Rd # F San Jose, CA 95123 TAP Plastics Inc (650) 962-8430 312 Castro St Mtn View, CA 94041 They have polish systems to 'recover' CD's and DVD's with video |
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On 14/03/2012 02:03, Arfa Daily wrote:
It's actually not that difficult to get them in wrong when you are working in a space that just about allows you to get two fingers in. The metal retaining clip can be hard to get back on under those conditions in the first place, and it only takes a little more force to get it to clip at least on one side, over a wrongly fitted bulb. I managed to do it on my son's car, but realised that I was only able to get one side on easily, and it didn't 'feel' right. I can see how kids without any experience, would give up with just one side latched, if the bulb appeared to be holding in there, and would figure that they must have got it right if it lit up ... Arfa Yep, I've done it. It's surprisingly easy to get the bulb in upside down, and also easy to break the damned retaining clip, when you can't see how it undoes. If you're very ham-fisted about it, a replacement lamp unit is your prize for ****ing it up :-/. |
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![]() "Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 14/03/2012 02:03, Arfa Daily wrote: It's actually not that difficult to get them in wrong when you are working in a space that just about allows you to get two fingers in. The metal retaining clip can be hard to get back on under those conditions in the first place, and it only takes a little more force to get it to clip at least on one side, over a wrongly fitted bulb. I managed to do it on my son's car, but realised that I was only able to get one side on easily, and it didn't 'feel' right. I can see how kids without any experience, would give up with just one side latched, if the bulb appeared to be holding in there, and would figure that they must have got it right if it lit up ... Arfa Yep, I've done it. It's surprisingly easy to get the bulb in upside down, and also easy to break the damned retaining clip, when you can't see how it undoes. If you're very ham-fisted about it, a replacement lamp unit is your prize for ****ing it up :-/. As coincidence would have it, I had to fit a replacement bulb in the missus's car today. On hers, the correct way to replace the bulb is to remove the headlamp assembly, which is quite easy. Once you have the assembly out, it is easy to clip off the lamp box cover, and then to release the bulb retaining clip. Obviously, with the assembly laying flat in front of you, you can see exactly what you are doing, so just for sport, I decided to see how easy it would be to fit the bulb wrongly. And the answer ? Vanishingly so. There is a single tab on the bulb, and a flat side. The seat in the reflector has a corresponding cut out and profile, and if you drop the bulb in so that these line up, it sits on the seat totally flat, and both sides of the retaining clip go on easily, as you would expect. However, the bulb also 'locates' - sort of - in a couple of other rotational positions, but now it is sitting at an angle in the seat. The clip again fits easily on the side that is lowest on the seat, and although I didn't actually take it that far, the clip on the raised side would have latched in with a bit of force. It's only a bit of thin piano wire bent to shape. So there we have it. The bulbs on my wife's car could, at a pinch, be replaced with the lights in situ, and if you didn't know that the right method was to take the lamp out, you might well try to do a bulb replacement 'in place'. If you did, I'd say that there would be a fair chance of getting it in wrong, as lots of people seem to be doing ... Arfa |
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On Mar 14, 7:38*pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote:
"Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 14/03/2012 02:03, Arfa Daily wrote: It's actually not that difficult to get them in wrong when you are working in a space that just about allows you to get two fingers in. The metal retaining clip can be hard to get back on under those conditions in the first place, and it only takes a little more force to get it to clip at least on one side, over a wrongly fitted bulb. I managed to do it on my son's car, but realised that I was only able to get one side on easily, and it didn't 'feel' right. I can see how kids without any experience, would give up with just one side latched, if the bulb appeared to be holding in there, and would figure that they must have got it right if it lit up ... Arfa Yep, I've done it. It's surprisingly easy to get the bulb in upside down, and also easy to break the damned retaining clip, when you can't see how it undoes. If you're very ham-fisted about it, a replacement lamp unit is your prize for ****ing it up :-/. As coincidence would have it, I had to fit a replacement bulb in the missus's car today. On hers, the correct way to replace the bulb is to remove the headlamp assembly, which is quite easy. Once you have the assembly out, it is easy to clip off the lamp box cover, and then to release the bulb retaining clip. Obviously, with the assembly laying flat in front of you, you can see exactly what you are doing, so just for sport, I decided to see how easy it would be to fit the bulb wrongly. And the answer ? Vanishingly so. There is a single tab on the bulb, and a flat side. The seat in the reflector has a corresponding cut out and profile, and if you drop the bulb in so that these line up, it sits on the seat totally flat, and both sides of the retaining clip go on easily, as you would expect. However, the bulb also 'locates' - sort of - in a couple of other rotational positions, but now it is sitting at an angle in the seat. The clip again fits easily on the side that is lowest on the seat, and although I didn't actually take it that far, the clip on the raised side would have latched in with a bit of force. It's only a bit of thin piano wire bent to shape. So there we have it. The bulbs on my wife's car could, at a pinch, be replaced with the lights in situ, and if you didn't know that the right method was to take the lamp out, you might well try to do a bulb replacement 'in place'. If you did, I'd say that there would be a fair chance of getting it in wrong, as lots of people seem to be doing ... Arfa brand of car? |
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![]() "Robert Macy" wrote in message ... On Mar 14, 7:38 pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote: "Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 14/03/2012 02:03, Arfa Daily wrote: It's actually not that difficult to get them in wrong when you are working in a space that just about allows you to get two fingers in. The metal retaining clip can be hard to get back on under those conditions in the first place, and it only takes a little more force to get it to clip at least on one side, over a wrongly fitted bulb. I managed to do it on my son's car, but realised that I was only able to get one side on easily, and it didn't 'feel' right. I can see how kids without any experience, would give up with just one side latched, if the bulb appeared to be holding in there, and would figure that they must have got it right if it lit up ... Arfa Yep, I've done it. It's surprisingly easy to get the bulb in upside down, and also easy to break the damned retaining clip, when you can't see how it undoes. If you're very ham-fisted about it, a replacement lamp unit is your prize for ****ing it up :-/. As coincidence would have it, I had to fit a replacement bulb in the missus's car today. On hers, the correct way to replace the bulb is to remove the headlamp assembly, which is quite easy. Once you have the assembly out, it is easy to clip off the lamp box cover, and then to release the bulb retaining clip. Obviously, with the assembly laying flat in front of you, you can see exactly what you are doing, so just for sport, I decided to see how easy it would be to fit the bulb wrongly. And the answer ? Vanishingly so. There is a single tab on the bulb, and a flat side. The seat in the reflector has a corresponding cut out and profile, and if you drop the bulb in so that these line up, it sits on the seat totally flat, and both sides of the retaining clip go on easily, as you would expect. However, the bulb also 'locates' - sort of - in a couple of other rotational positions, but now it is sitting at an angle in the seat. The clip again fits easily on the side that is lowest on the seat, and although I didn't actually take it that far, the clip on the raised side would have latched in with a bit of force. It's only a bit of thin piano wire bent to shape. So there we have it. The bulbs on my wife's car could, at a pinch, be replaced with the lights in situ, and if you didn't know that the right method was to take the lamp out, you might well try to do a bulb replacement 'in place'. If you did, I'd say that there would be a fair chance of getting it in wrong, as lots of people seem to be doing ... Arfa brand of car? UK Ford Mondeo Zetec 2000 plate Arfa |
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On 15/03/2012 02:38, Arfa Daily wrote:
However, the bulb also 'locates' - sort of - in a couple of other rotational positions, but now it is sitting at an angle in the seat. The clip again fits easily on the side that is lowest on the seat, and although I didn't actually take it that far, the clip on the raised side would have latched in with a bit of force. It's only a bit of thin piano wire bent to shape. Indeed. That's exactly what I did. Access is limited and removing the lamp unit so you could see properly means taking the bumper off.... |
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![]() "Chris Bartram" wrote in message ... On 15/03/2012 02:38, Arfa Daily wrote: However, the bulb also 'locates' - sort of - in a couple of other rotational positions, but now it is sitting at an angle in the seat. The clip again fits easily on the side that is lowest on the seat, and although I didn't actually take it that far, the clip on the raised side would have latched in with a bit of force. It's only a bit of thin piano wire bent to shape. Indeed. That's exactly what I did. Access is limited and removing the lamp unit so you could see properly means taking the bumper off.... Fortunately, removing the headlamp assemblies on the Mondeo, only involves taking off the grille, which is two screws only. Literally a 2 minute job. The light assemblies come out with two screws removed, and one slackened. About 5 minutes all up. So how did you realise in the end that you had got the bulb in wrong ? Arfa |
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On 17/03/2012 01:54, Arfa Daily wrote:
So how did you realise in the end that you had got the bulb in wrong ? Arfa When people started flashing me :-/..... |
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![]() "Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... En el artículo , Arfa Daily escribió: UK Ford Mondeo Zetec 2000 plate I hope you used the right bulbs, or you'll find the plastic lenses going yellow in short order. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") Wife picked 'em up from Halfords. They were the recommended ones, and looked exactly the same as the ones that came out. Standard output 55 watters from what I recall, rather than "Super Enhanced up to 80% more light output !!!! " types ... Arfa |
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En el artículo , Arfa Daily
escribió: Wife picked 'em up from Halfords. They were the recommended ones, and looked exactly the same as the ones that came out. Standard output 55 watters from what I recall, rather than "Super Enhanced up to 80% more light output !!!! " types ... It's not that, they need to be the UV-filtered ones, 'cos that's what makes the lenses go yellow. You'd be wise to get the 'proper' ones from a Ford dealer. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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![]() "Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... En el artículo , Arfa Daily escribió: Wife picked 'em up from Halfords. They were the recommended ones, and looked exactly the same as the ones that came out. Standard output 55 watters from what I recall, rather than "Super Enhanced up to 80% more light output !!!! " types ... It's not that, they need to be the UV-filtered ones, 'cos that's what makes the lenses go yellow. You'd be wise to get the 'proper' ones from a Ford dealer. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") I've never bought a genuine Ford bulb in my life, and I know I have replaced several over the time we have had that car. The only place that they are going to have come from, is Halfords, as there is one a couple of miles from me. Just as a matter of interest, which 'lenses' are you referring to that are plastic ? The actual fronts of the headlamp units are glass ... ?? Arfa |
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En el artículo , Arfa Daily
escribió: Just as a matter of interest, which 'lenses' are you referring to that are plastic ? The actual fronts of the headlamp units are glass ... ?? The inner lenses are plastic, which you would have discovered if you'd bothered to google it: http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php?...t_Lens_-_Fixin g_%28Mondeo_Mk1%29 -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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![]() "Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message news ![]() En el artículo , Arfa Daily escribió: Just as a matter of interest, which 'lenses' are you referring to that are plastic ? The actual fronts of the headlamp units are glass ... ?? The inner lenses are plastic, which you would have discovered if you'd bothered to google it: http://www.fordwiki.co.uk/index.php?...t_Lens_-_Fixin g_%28Mondeo_Mk1%29 -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") OK my friend. No need to get snotty about it. There is actually no text on that page anyway. I thought you might be referring to the bit at the front which is what I would normally consider to be the headlamp 'lens'. On our Mondeo, that is glass. On our Focus, it is indeed plastic, and I was thinking that perhaps it was plastic on a later Mondeo, and that's what you meant. Arfa |
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En el artículo , Arfa Daily
escribió: OK my friend. No need to get snotty about it. Well, I just feel like I'm leading you by the nose. I'm saying there is a well-known problem with yellowing headlights on Mundanos and you're having none of it. I'm trying to help you out here, you know, and the information may be useful for other Mundano owners. There is actually no text on that page anyway. There is, actually. Your crappy news client has broken the URL cos it's too long for it to cope with. Try this: http://tinyurl.com/88pfeaq it even gives you the Ford part numbers you need for replacement lenses and the UV-filtered bulbs. You're welcome, by the way. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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![]() "Mike Tomlinson" wrote in message ... En el artículo , Arfa Daily escribió: OK my friend. No need to get snotty about it. Well, I just feel like I'm leading you by the nose. I'm saying there is a well-known problem with yellowing headlights on Mundanos and you're having none of it. I'm trying to help you out here, you know, and the information may be useful for other Mundano owners. There is actually no text on that page anyway. There is, actually. Your crappy news client has broken the URL cos it's too long for it to cope with. Try this: http://tinyurl.com/88pfeaq it even gives you the Ford part numbers you need for replacement lenses and the UV-filtered bulbs. You're welcome, by the way. -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") Whatever ... Arfa |
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:07:32 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
wrote: En el artículo , Arfa Daily escribió: Wife picked 'em up from Halfords. They were the recommended ones, and looked exactly the same as the ones that came out. Standard output 55 watters from what I recall, rather than "Super Enhanced up to 80% more light output !!!! " types ... It's not that, they need to be the UV-filtered ones, 'cos that's what makes the lenses go yellow. You'd be wise to get the 'proper' ones from a Ford dealer. Dawgs, we do not need any more "dealerism". ?-) |
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On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 04:43:47 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
wrote: En el artículo , Arfa Daily escribió: OK my friend. No need to get snotty about it. Well, I just feel like I'm leading you by the nose. I'm saying there is a well-known problem with yellowing headlights on Mundanos and you're having none of it. I'm trying to help you out here, you know, and the information may be useful for other Mundano owners. There is actually no text on that page anyway. There is, actually. Your crappy news client has broken the URL cos it's too long for it to cope with. Try this: http://tinyurl.com/88pfeaq it even gives you the Ford part numbers you need for replacement lenses and the UV-filtered bulbs. You're welcome, by the way. FUD. ?-) |
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