[Dave[_58_]]

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

[Paul Drahn]

On 11/27/2011 8:34 PM, Dave wrote:
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.
If the gas temperature was much below 32 degrees, then the alcohol in
the gasoline has absorbed water and it has frozen out of solution in the
alcohol. Just a guess, as you mentioned snow!

Paul

[harry]

On Nov 28, 4:34*am, Dave wrote:
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

If it was avgas, it would be rejected as possibly causing carb. icing.
It has absorbed some water.
However it is a very small amount, it is probably OK to use.

There is always water in mogas.

[Anonymous[_11_]]

"Dave" wrote in message
...
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I
went to fill the tank noticed the gas in the can was
cloudy. The gas was purchased around the beginning of Oct
and stored with a tight lid so I cant imagine it has gone
bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know
anything.

I had that happen too. Turns out it was water in the gas.
Don't know how it got there. I dumped it out.

[Don Phillipson[_3_]]

On Nov 28, 4:34 am, Dave wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

In order to use up this old gas:
1. filter it (through felt or chamois leather);
2. use it in your car. (The car's fuel filter guarantees it will
burn OK: Most snow blowers have no fuel filter.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

[Stormin Mormon]

I sometimes have cloudy gas, especially after a trip to Taco Bell.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill the
tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased around
the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant imagine it has
gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

[Stormin Mormon]

Yep, that proves it. I must have taken up drinking, again.
Sorry, folks, someone got to stop cloning around.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"Stormin Mormon" wrote
in message ...
I sometimes have cloudy gas, especially after a trip to Taco
Bell.


"Dave" wrote in message
...
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I
went to fill the
tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was
purchased around
the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has
gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know
anything.

[Stormin Mormon]

looks like you don't know anything either.



"Dave" wrote in message
...
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I
went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was
purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I
cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know
anything.

[Stormin Mormon]

no one doubts that you dumped

"Anonymous" wrote in message
...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I
went to fill the tank noticed the gas in the can was
cloudy. The gas was purchased around the beginning of Oct
and stored with a tight lid so I cant imagine it has gone
bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know
anything.

I had that happen too. Turns out it was water in the gas.
Don't know how it got there. I dumped it out.

[Jim Elbrecht]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:21:03 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

On Nov 28, 4:34 am, Dave wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

In order to use up this old gas:
1. filter it (through felt or chamois leather);
2. use it in your car. (The car's fuel filter guarantees it will
burn OK: Most snow blowers have no fuel filter.)

I think I'd use it to kill grass, start fires, or clean brushes.

Dump it in my car? Not on *your* life.

If I was going to trust a filter [which I wouldn't] - I'd put one on
the snowblower. [I have one on mine, but still wouldn't put
questionable gas in it.]

Jim

[HeyBub[_3_]]

[Frank]

On Nov 27, 11:34*pm, Dave wrote:
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

Sounds like water. Probably too late to see if gas station is at
fault.
Chamois filter idea sounds good or maybe even dry paper.

[Stormin Mormon]

Spoof, the friendly ghost?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

[harry]

On Nov 28, 5:06*pm, Frank wrote:
On Nov 27, 11:34*pm, Dave wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

Sounds like water. *Probably too late to see if gas station is at
fault.
Chamois filter idea sounds good or maybe even dry paper.

No amount of filtering will remove water from petrol.
Water in petrol is normal and is permitted to controlled levels,
Petrol is hygroscopic it absorbs water from the air and there is
water in it when manufactured.
It can only be removed by an adsorbent device..

[Frank[_13_]]

On 11/28/2011 2:35 PM, harry wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:06 pm, wrote:
On Nov 27, 11:34 pm, wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

Sounds like water. Probably too late to see if gas station is at
fault.
Chamois filter idea sounds good or maybe even dry paper.

No amount of filtering will remove water from petrol.
Water in petrol is normal and is permitted to controlled levels,
Petrol is hygroscopic it absorbs water from the air and there is
water in it when manufactured.
It can only be removed by an adsorbent device..

It's not filtering but absorbing into the chamois or paper.
In the lab, I'd use anhydrous calcium sulfate or molecular sieves.
Petrol, without alcohol is not hygroscopic.

[Larry W]

In article ,
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:21:03 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

On Nov 28, 4:34 am, Dave wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

In order to use up this old gas:
1. filter it (through felt or chamois leather);
2. use it in your car. (The car's fuel filter guarantees it will
burn OK: Most snow blowers have no fuel filter.)

I think I'd use it to kill grass, start fires, or clean brushes.

Dump it in my car? Not on *your* life.

If I was going to trust a filter [which I wouldn't] - I'd put one on
the snowblower. [I have one on mine, but still wouldn't put
questionable gas in it.]

Jim

A gallon or so of gasoline contaminated with a small amount water (or other
normally undesireable product such as 2 stroke oil or diesel fuel) will not
harm a car if added to a nearly full (let's say 15 gallons or more) tank.
If you believe it to be water add a can of drygas if your area doesn't use
ethanol blended gasonline) This is SOP for many vehicle fleet operators
to get rid of such contaminants without having to go the hazardous disposal
route & the attendant documention requirements and costs. (Speaking from
34 years experience in vehicle fleet maintenance & management)
--
Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

[Larry W]

In article ,
harry wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:06*pm, Frank wrote:
On Nov 27, 11:34*pm, Dave wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

Sounds like water. *Probably too late to see if gas station is at
fault.
Chamois filter idea sounds good or maybe even dry paper.

No amount of filtering will remove water from petrol.
Water in petrol is normal and is permitted to controlled levels,
Petrol is hygroscopic it absorbs water from the air and there is
water in it when manufactured.
It can only be removed by an adsorbent device..

Not entirely correct. Genuine, new chamois, first soaked in clean
gasoline can be effective enough for a snow blower, though certainly
would not be recommended for an airplane.

See for instance:
http://www.marineenginedigest.com/sp...n_the_fuel.htm
http://www.free-online-private-pilot...owerplant.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamois_leather


Gasoline is not hygroscopic unless it has been blended with ethanor
or other hygroscopic compounds.

--
Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org

[Stormin Mormon]

I bought a snow blower, had been sitting for a while. Two
stroke Tecumseh engine. Would not run, as the metering jet
for the carb was clogged. Dissemble, and clear that. After
clearing the jet every five minutes, a couple times. I found
a fuel filter I had figured to use on a lawn mower, new in
package. With some hesitation, I gave my snow blower a
vasectomy, and put in a fuel filter. Runs a lot better, now.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I
went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas
was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid
so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know
anything.

[Dave[_58_]]

On 11/28/2011 12:13 AM, Paul Drahn wrote:
On 11/27/2011 8:34 PM, Dave wrote:
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.
If the gas temperature was much below 32 degrees, then the alcohol in
the gasoline has absorbed water and it has frozen out of solution in the
alcohol. Just a guess, as you mentioned snow!

Paul


Just what I feared. I'll prolly toss the gas on the brush pile.

[Dave[_58_]]

On 11/28/2011 1:55 AM, harry wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:34 am, wrote:
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

If it was avgas, it would be rejected as possibly causing carb. icing.

Water in the gas causes carburetor icing?

[Dave[_58_]]

On 11/28/2011 9:21 AM, Don Phillipson wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:34 am, wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

In order to use up this old gas:
1. filter it (through felt or chamois leather);
2. use it in your car. (The car's fuel filter guarantees it will
burn OK: Most snow blowers have no fuel filter.)

So a cars fuel filter will remove the water?

[Stormin Mormon]

As I understand, a car fuel filter can block the water. And
then the water collects, at the fuel filter, until worse
things happen.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Dave" wrote in message
...

So a cars fuel filter will remove the water?

[Stormin Mormon]

When I took some pilot lessons, they had a knob for "carb
heat" which we ran heat, every day, all day. Between high
altitudes, and air flow, and all. Carbs have been known to
ice over. Cuts the air flow to the engine, and leads to less
than ideal flying conditions.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Dave" wrote in message
...

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know
anything.

If it was avgas, it would be rejected as possibly causing
carb. icing.

Water in the gas causes carburetor icing?

[Oren[_2_]]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:20:38 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

As I understand, a car fuel filter can block the water. And
then the water collects, at the fuel filter, until worse
things happen.

Back in the day, fuel filters had a glass globe. You could see the
water, trash, etc. via the glass.

Simple as removing the glass to wash it out. I've seen them filled
with sugar for vandalism when sugar was poured into the fuel tank.

Pic:

http://www.impalas.com/images/T/GF48.jpg

[Stormin Mormon]

I've seen those glass globe, on tractors. Now, we're totally
in the disposable era. Next, we'll have disposable
computers, disposable food containers for restaurants,
disposable tissues, disposable diapers, and what next.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Oren" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:20:38 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

As I understand, a car fuel filter can block the water. And
then the water collects, at the fuel filter, until worse
things happen.

Back in the day, fuel filters had a glass globe. You could
see the
water, trash, etc. via the glass.

Simple as removing the glass to wash it out. I've seen them
filled
with sugar for vandalism when sugar was poured into the fuel
tank.

Pic:

http://www.impalas.com/images/T/GF48.jpg

[Oren[_2_]]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 21:38:58 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I've seen those glass globe, on tractors. Now, we're totally
in the disposable era. Next, we'll have disposable
computers, disposable food containers for restaurants,
disposable tissues, disposable diapers, and what next.

They were also on cars and trucks.

You can still get in-line filters with glass, so you can see inside.

Please stop to posting.

[The Daring Dufas[_7_]]

On 11/28/2011 8:13 PM, Dave wrote:
On 11/28/2011 1:55 AM, harry wrote:
On Nov 28, 4:34 am, wrote:
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

If it was avgas, it would be rejected as possibly causing carb. icing.

Water in the gas causes carburetor icing?

Not exactly all the time, high humidity is usually the culprit. Lookie he

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carburetor_icing

TDD

[The Daring Dufas[_7_]]

On 11/28/2011 5:17 PM, Larry W wrote:
In ,
wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:06 pm, wrote:
On Nov 27, 11:34 pm, wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

Sounds like water. Probably too late to see if gas station is at
fault.
Chamois filter idea sounds good or maybe even dry paper.

No amount of filtering will remove water from petrol.
Water in petrol is normal and is permitted to controlled levels,
Petrol is hygroscopic it absorbs water from the air and there is
water in it when manufactured.
It can only be removed by an adsorbent device..

Not entirely correct. Genuine, new chamois, first soaked in clean
gasoline can be effective enough for a snow blower, though certainly
would not be recommended for an airplane.

See for instance:
http://www.marineenginedigest.com/sp...n_the_fuel.htm
http://www.free-online-private-pilot...owerplant.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chamois_leather


Gasoline is not hygroscopic unless it has been blended with ethanor
or other hygroscopic compounds.


I thought the term was "miscible". When you mix alcohol with gasoline
the mixture is miscible with water because the alcohol is miscible with
both water and gasoline. I thought "hygroscopic" referred to solid
compounds?

http://chemistry.about.com/od/dictio...efmiscible.htm

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6rfs94n

http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemis...Definition.htm

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jy72cw

TDD

[harry]

On Nov 28, 9:55*pm, Frank wrote:
On 11/28/2011 2:35 PM, harry wrote:





On Nov 28, 5:06 pm, *wrote:
On Nov 27, 11:34 pm, *wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

Sounds like water. *Probably too late to see if gas station is at
fault.
Chamois filter idea sounds good or maybe even dry paper.

No amount of filtering will remove water from petrol.
Water in petrol is normal and is permitted to controlled levels,
Petrol *is hygroscopic it absorbs water from the air and there is
water in it when manufactured.
It can only be removed by an adsorbent device..

It's not filtering but absorbing into the chamois or paper.
In the lab, I'd use anhydrous calcium sulfate or molecular sieves.
Petrol, without alcohol is not hygroscopic.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://www.fueldoctors.com/tech_talk...nation/more/7/

[harry]

On Nov 29, 2:13*am, Dave wrote:
On 11/28/2011 1:55 AM, harry wrote:

On Nov 28, 4:34 am, *wrote:
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

If it was avgas, it would be rejected as possibly causing carb. icing.

Water in the gas causes carburetor icing?

One cause. The jets can block with ice. Depends on atmospheric
conditions.
Test papers are available to determine the level of water in avgas.
A sample of every load of avgas delivered has to be taken tested and
retained, at least in the UK.
http://www.asearle.co.uk/AVGAS-fuel-testing.html

[harry]

On Nov 28, 11:17*pm, (Larry W) wrote:
In article ,





harry wrote:
On Nov 28, 5:06*pm, Frank wrote:
On Nov 27, 11:34*pm, Dave wrote:

I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.

Sounds like water. *Probably too late to see if gas station is at
fault.
Chamois filter idea sounds good or maybe even dry paper.

No amount of filtering will remove water from petrol.
Water in petrol is normal and is permitted to controlled levels,
Petrol *is hygroscopic it absorbs water from the air and there is
water in it when manufactured.
It can only be removed by an adsorbent device..

Not entirely correct. Genuine, new chamois, first soaked in clean
gasoline can be effective enough for a snow blower, though certainly
would not be recommended for an airplane.

See for instance:http://www.marineenginedigest.com/sp...hamois_leather

Gasoline is not hygroscopic unless it has been blended with ethanor
or other hygroscopic compounds.

--
* * *Better to be stuck up in a tree than tied to one.

* * *Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar.org- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Gasoline/petrol certainly is hygroscopic. Ethanol just makes it more
hygroscopic.
Kits are availble for testing for water in Avgas which has no ethanol.
http://www.asearle.co.uk/AVGAS-fuel-testing.html

[harry]

On Nov 29, 2:20*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
As I understand, a car fuel filter can block the water. And
then the water collects, at the fuel filter, until worse
things happen.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

"Dave" wrote in message

...

So a cars fuel filter will remove the water?

Can you catch water with a fishnet? Don't be foolish.
Water dissolves in petrol up to a point and is invisible. (It can be
tested for with a special kit).
When that point is reached, or the petrol cools visible water can be
seen.
This is what causes trouble in engines.
The "cloudiness" is minute water droplets in the petrol.

[Han]

harry wrote in news:c83b59a8-edfc-4905-b0cf-
:

Gasoline/petrol certainly is hygroscopic. Ethanol just makes it more
hygroscopic.

I don't believe gasoline/petrol/benzine (US/UK/NL) is hygroscopic. Most
likely, a tank that is less than full and equilibrated with ambient
temperature, humid air will exhibit condensation when tem[erature plummets,
either with altitude, or cold nights. Once condensed, water will not
easily evaporate from the gas.

Ethanol in the gas will actually help dissolve any water that gets in the
tank, although I believe the additive that used to be sold to help dissolve
condensed water in a tank was methanol, not ethanol.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

[Stormin Mormon]

Hygroscopic can refer to either solids (like calcium
chloride) or liquids (like the mineral oil used in HVAC
systems).

He did mean ethanoL not ethanoR.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in
message ...


Gasoline is not hygroscopic unless it has been blended
with ethanor
or other hygroscopic compounds.


I thought the term was "miscible". When you mix alcohol with
gasoline
the mixture is miscible with water because the alcohol is
miscible with
both water and gasoline. I thought "hygroscopic" referred to
solid
compounds?

TDD

[Frank[_13_]]

On 11/28/2011 8:33 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I bought a snow blower, had been sitting for a while. Two
stroke Tecumseh engine. Would not run, as the metering jet
for the carb was clogged. Dissemble, and clear that. After
clearing the jet every five minutes, a couple times. I found
a fuel filter I had figured to use on a lawn mower, new in
package. With some hesitation, I gave my snow blower a
vasectomy, and put in a fuel filter. Runs a lot better, now.


I've got a 4 stroke Tecumseh which says to either store with stabilized
gas or run dry. The one year I left stabilized gas in it, it would not
run and carburetor seals had to be replaced. Further reading of manual
says not to use gas with ethanol in it. The ethanol increases the
polarity of the gas which may attack seals not made for it. This is the
kind of unintended consequences you get when you let politicians make
technical decisions on what must be put in your gas.

[Stormin Mormon]

I've seen see-through filters, actually have one on my snow
blower. It's plastic, though.

Might just continue to post.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Oren"
wrote in message
...


I've seen those glass globe, on tractors. Now, we're
totally

They were also on cars and trucks.

You can still get in-line filters with glass, so you can see
inside.

Please stop to posting.

[Stormin Mormon]

I've heard that ethanol attacks seals.

Did we "let the politicians"? I thought they decided on
their own. We might be able to rein in the pols, but who can
tell. I suspect the pols have taken on a life of thier own.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"Frank"
wrote in message ...

I've got a 4 stroke Tecumseh which says to either store with
stabilized
gas or run dry. The one year I left stabilized gas in it,
it would not
run and carburetor seals had to be replaced. Further
reading of manual
says not to use gas with ethanol in it. The ethanol
increases the
polarity of the gas which may attack seals not made for it.
This is the
kind of unintended consequences you get when you let
politicians make
technical decisions on what must be put in your gas.

[Paul Drahn]

On 11/28/2011 6:07 PM, Dave wrote:
On 11/28/2011 12:13 AM, Paul Drahn wrote:
On 11/27/2011 8:34 PM, Dave wrote:
I was getting the snow blower ready for winter and when I went to fill
the tank noticed the gas in the can was cloudy. The gas was purchased
around the beginning of Oct and stored with a tight lid so I cant
imagine it has gone bad...or has it???? Is it ok to use?

I called the gas station but they don't seem to know anything.
If the gas temperature was much below 32 degrees, then the alcohol in
the gasoline has absorbed water and it has frozen out of solution in the
alcohol. Just a guess, as you mentioned snow!

Paul


Just what I feared. I'll prolly toss the gas on the brush pile.
Be sure to get a fire started before tossing the gas. Ask me how I know!

Paul

[Larry W]

In article ,
Frank wrote:
...snipped...

... The ethanol increases the
polarity of the gas which may attack seals not made for it. This is the
kind of unintended consequences you get when you let politicians make
technical decisions on what must be put in your gas.


It's not the politicians who make those decisions, but the lobbiests and
high $$ campaign contributors who tell them what to do.


--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org

[Larry W]

In article ,
The Daring Dufas wrote:

On 11/28/2011 5:17 PM, Larry W wrote:
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Gasoline is not hygroscopic unless it has been blended with ethanor
or other hygroscopic compounds.


I thought the term was "miscible". When you mix alcohol with gasoline
the mixture is miscible with water because the alcohol is miscible with
both water and gasoline. I thought "hygroscopic" referred to solid
compounds?

http://chemistry.about.com/od/dictio...efmiscible.htm

http://preview.tinyurl.com/6rfs94n

http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemis...Definition.htm

http://preview.tinyurl.com/7jy72cw

TDD

You evidently are correct for the terminology that a chemist would
use, though I believe that 2 liquids being miscible does not necessarily
imply an attraction between the 2 of them the way that "hygroscopic" does
for a substance that attracts water. My background is in vehicle and mobile
equipment maintenance, where the term "hygroscopic" is commonly used to
describe the affinity that DOT 3 (glycerine based) brake fluid and
some other automotive fluids seem to have for water.



--
There is always an easy solution to every human problem -- neat,
plausible, and wrong." (H L Mencken)

Larry Wasserman - Baltimore Maryland - lwasserm(a)sdf. lonestar. org