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Freud Dado Set
I was in Lowe's the other day and saw a Freud 8 (and 1/2", I think)
stackable dado set for just under $100. What kind of experiences have people had with this set? Compared to a $260 Forrest, I'm assuming the Freud will tear out the edges more and leave more ridges in the bottom of the dado? Thanks, Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com |
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That would be the Freud SD208, which is consistently rated as a best
buy among stack dado sets. I have the SD206, which is the 6" version, and just as good. Cuts are very clean and flat-bottmed. Unless you're doing mission-critical dados in veneered or laminated materials, the Freud should serve you well. Check your saw manual for the recommended dado size - the 6" is probably what you want, unless you're running a cabinet saw. It's a bit of a strange move that HD only carries the 8" version, since probably 90% of their market is portable and contractor's saws. |
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"Check your saw manual for the recommended dado size - the 6" is
probably what you want, unless you're running a cabinet saw. It's a bit of a strange move that HD only carries the 8" version, since probably 90% of their market is portable and contractor's saws." I use an 8 inch stackable dado set on my Jet contractor's saw with no problems at all. Dick Durbin Tallahassee |
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Olebiker wrote:
I use an 8 inch stackable dado set on my Jet contractor's saw with no problems at all. I did this for years with no problems at all. Barry |
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wrote in message .... It's a bit of a strange move that HD only carries the 8" version, since probably 90% of their market is portable and contractor's saws. The 8" is perfectly suited to the 1.5 hp contractors saws. I bought a Ridge Carbide and asked about it. He says the 6" are for the small saws like the benchtops. |
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In article .com,
wrote: That would be the Freud SD208, which is consistently rated as a best buy among stack dado sets. I have the SD206, which is the 6" version, and just as good. Cuts are very clean and flat-bottmed. Unless you're doing mission-critical dados in veneered or laminated materials, the Freud should serve you well. Check your saw manual for the recommended dado size - the 6" is probably what you want, unless you're running a cabinet saw. It's one of the new Sears', with a 1.75hp motor. I believe the manual reccomends an 8, but will double check before buying. Thanks. -Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com |
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In article .com,
... Why I'd even bet money that the "expert" in the tool section would gladly explain how that blade fits nicely on any 10" circular or chop saw. An 8" Dado on a circular saw... now there's a scary thought. That's almost as bad as a moulding head. ;-) -Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com |
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I just bought one at Amazon for $50 (gloat, gloat, gloat) and have used it
twice. The first time it couldn't have been better. The second time I found the 1/16" cutter was a bit deeper than the 1/8" cutters. It was fine for this particular purpose, but hardly good. If I had paid $100 I would have been dissappointed. |
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:28:30 -0600, MSCHAEF.COM wrote:
In article .com, ... Why I'd even bet money that the "expert" in the tool section would gladly explain how that blade fits nicely on any 10" circular or chop saw. An 8" Dado on a circular saw... now there's a scary thought. That's almost as bad as a moulding head. ;-) -Mike I suspect that feed rate makes much more difference than diameter. How many of you are using the full depth of cut on an 8" dado without a sled in hard maple? I've never made a dado deeper than 3/8" which my Dad's old 1/2HP contractor saw can usually do Just Fine without bogging down. It might take a bit more time for the blade to spin up--second moment varies as the square of the spinning diameter. Caculate the difference for homework . . . But the load on the motor during actual cutting depends on your depth of cut, feed rate, and material. |
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Olebiker wrote:
I use an 8 inch stackable dado set on my Jet contractor's saw with no problems at all. 1.5 HP motor? I've got a 110V/1.5 HP contractor's saw, and I've been planning for awhile now to go pick up one of the dadoes in question. It looks like a good set in the store, and it's available cash and carry, which is always a bonus in my book. (Of course, it looks like I'm definitely in for $5,000 on the insurance for sure, with possibly as much as another $2,000 on top of that. So I guess it's reality check time. Wimminz are SO expensive.) -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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MSCHAEF.COM wrote:
It's one of the new Sears', with a 1.75hp motor. I believe the manual reccomends an 8, but will double check before buying. Thanks. Do yourself a favor and get an eight inch. A six inch may not work with a sled. Once you use a sled to dado, you'll never use a miter gauge again. Barry |
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In article ,
B a r r y wrote: MSCHAEF.COM wrote: It's one of the new Sears', with a 1.75hp motor. I believe the manual reccomends an 8, but will double check before buying. Thanks. Do yourself a favor and get an eight inch. A six inch may not work with a sled. Once you use a sled to dado, you'll never use a miter gauge again. After a few simple mitered cross cuts with the miter gauge, I'm already contemplating building a sled... I have a bunch of MDF I can use, and maybe some oak for the rails. :-) -Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com |
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"Silvan" wrote in message ... Olebiker wrote: I use an 8 inch stackable dado set on my Jet contractor's saw with no problems at all. 1.5 HP motor? I've got a 110V/1.5 HP contractor's saw, and I've been planning for awhile now to go pick up one of the dadoes in question. It looks like a good set in the store, and it's available cash and carry, which is always a bonus in my book. Yup! Ihave a Delta contractors saw with 1-1/2 HP motor. I swings a 8" dado with no problem. I would definitely NOT buy a 6" dado!! Greg |
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MSCHAEF.COM wrote: I was in Lowe's the other day and saw a Freud 8 (and 1/2", I think) stackable dado set for just under $100. What kind of experiences have people had with this set? Compared to a $260 Forrest, I'm assuming the Freud will tear out the edges more and leave more ridges in the bottom of the dado? Thanks, Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com The SD208 is fine if you are doing a groove (with the grain) or plywood. If you are doing a dado (crosscut), go to a SD308. Almost no info on this very very nice dado, but you can get it on Amazon or at a professional supplier. |
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In article .com,
... The SD208 is fine if you are doing a groove (with the grain) or plywood. If you are doing a dado (crosscut), go to a SD308. Almost no info on this very very nice dado, but you can get it on Amazon or at a professional supplier. So is the situation this: SD208 = rip/groove SD308 = crosscut or this SD208 = rip/groove SD308 = crosscut + rip/groove Thanks, Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com |
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wrote: MSCHAEF.COM wrote: I was in Lowe's the other day and saw a Freud 8 (and 1/2", I think) stackable dado set for just under $100. What kind of experiences have people had with this set? Compared to a $260 Forrest, I'm assuming the Freud will tear out the edges more and leave more ridges in the bottom of the dado? Thanks, Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com The SD208 is fine if you are doing a groove (with the grain) or plywood. If you are doing a dado (crosscut), go to a SD308. Almost no info on this very very nice dado, but you can get it on Amazon or at a professional supplier. I ordered an SD 208 from a Buy It Now place on eBay for under 80 bucks delivered. It got to my place the day after I left for work so I don't get to play for a while. I was wondering however about the crosscut tearout that is commonly mentioned about this blade. Would scoring the outside marks with a razor knife prior to cutting help to eliminate this? Cheers, Paul |
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I haven't tried that so I can't definitively answer your question but I
assume it would at least help. For the money cuts, one way to do this is to make the edge cuts with your finish table saw blade and plow out the remainder of the material with the dado set. PITA? Time consuming? Difficult? Yes, all of the above. But if you want the piece to look nice, some time/effort is required. "Paul in MN" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: MSCHAEF.COM wrote: I was in Lowe's the other day and saw a Freud 8 (and 1/2", I think) stackable dado set for just under $100. What kind of experiences have people had with this set? Compared to a $260 Forrest, I'm assuming the Freud will tear out the edges more and leave more ridges in the bottom of the dado? Thanks, Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com The SD208 is fine if you are doing a groove (with the grain) or plywood. If you are doing a dado (crosscut), go to a SD308. Almost no info on this very very nice dado, but you can get it on Amazon or at a professional supplier. I ordered an SD 208 from a Buy It Now place on eBay for under 80 bucks delivered. It got to my place the day after I left for work so I don't get to play for a while. I was wondering however about the crosscut tearout that is commonly mentioned about this blade. Would scoring the outside marks with a razor knife prior to cutting help to eliminate this? Cheers, Paul |
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In article , B a r r y
wrote: Once you use a sled to dado, you'll never use a miter gauge again. What are the advantages of the sled with the dado? I have only used a sled for crosscutting so far. Gerry |
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toller wrote:
I just bought one at Amazon for $50 (gloat, gloat, gloat) and have used it twice. The first time it couldn't have been better. The second time I found the 1/16" cutter was a bit deeper than the 1/8" cutters. It was fine for this particular purpose, but hardly good. If I had paid $100 I would have been dissappointed. Seems to me that is a very big YOU SUCK. I think I paid around $170 on Amazon back in 2002. Why/how did the price come down that far that fast, especially given the fact they are made in Italy and the dollar is in the toilet?? |
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DIYGUY wrote:
Seems to me that is a very big YOU SUCK. I think I paid around $170 on Amazon back in 2002. Why/how did the price come down that far that fast, especially given the fact they are made in Italy and the dollar is in the toilet?? You might be comparing apples and oranges. Freud makes a number of different dado sets. -- Jack Novak Buffalo, NY - USA (Remove "SPAM" from email address to reply) |
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Guess you've never seen the chip free dados made with an SD-508. There
is NO need to use another blade for the "money cuts". There's literally ZERO chip out even in Melamine with a 508. 'Course that puppy is about $190... Dave Chuck Hoffman wrote: I haven't tried that so I can't definitively answer your question but I assume it would at least help. For the money cuts, one way to do this is to make the edge cuts with your finish table saw blade and plow out the remainder of the material with the dado set. PITA? Time consuming? Difficult? Yes, all of the above. But if you want the piece to look nice, some time/effort is required. "Paul in MN" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: MSCHAEF.COM wrote: I was in Lowe's the other day and saw a Freud 8 (and 1/2", I think) stackable dado set for just under $100. What kind of experiences have people had with this set? Compared to a $260 Forrest, I'm assuming the Freud will tear out the edges more and leave more ridges in the bottom of the dado? Thanks, Mike -- http://www.mschaef.com The SD208 is fine if you are doing a groove (with the grain) or plywood. If you are doing a dado (crosscut), go to a SD308. Almost no info on this very very nice dado, but you can get it on Amazon or at a professional supplier. I ordered an SD 208 from a Buy It Now place on eBay for under 80 bucks delivered. It got to my place the day after I left for work so I don't get to play for a while. I was wondering however about the crosscut tearout that is commonly mentioned about this blade. Would scoring the outside marks with a razor knife prior to cutting help to eliminate this? Cheers, Paul |
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DIYGUY wrote in
: toller wrote: I just bought one at Amazon for $50 (gloat, gloat, gloat) and have used it twice. The first time it couldn't have been better. The second time I found the 1/16" cutter was a bit deeper than the 1/8" cutters. It was fine for this particular purpose, but hardly good. If I had paid $100 I would have been dissappointed. Seems to me that is a very big YOU SUCK. I think I paid around $170 on Amazon back in 2002. Why/how did the price come down that far that fast, especially given the fact they are made in Italy and the dollar is in the toilet?? Amazon had some serious seasonal pricing anomalies. Some of the erroneous pricing made it through to the customer(s). Not everyone got their 'confirmed' orders. A rift in the space-time continuum... |
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G.E.R.R.Y. wrote:
What are the advantages of the sled with the dado? I have only used a sled for crosscutting so far. It's amazingly apparent when you're dadoing a 5-6 foot plywood or MDF shelf side! G The work doesn't drag on the table, the whole shebang can be counterbalanced for ease of movement, and stops can be easily installed for duplication. See he http://www.bburke.com/wood/sleds.htm Scroll down to the sled with a paint can on it. The larger the part, the more help the sled is. Have fun, Barry |
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DIYGUY wrote:
Seems to me that is a very big YOU SUCK. I think I paid around $170 on Amazon back in 2002. I paid $149 for a Forrest Dado King. Sorry, Barry |
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