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Yave you done this yet?
Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg. Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before. The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue is my favorite utility knife. 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the legs. I did not even get mad. |
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Weeellllll...... To be honest the answer is yes and no. I've done things
like that, but I would have blown a gasket and started throwing things. Steve P. "Leon" wrote in message . com... Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg. Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before. The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue is my favorite utility knife. 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the legs. I did not even get mad. |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:08:31 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg. Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before. The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue is my favorite utility knife. 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the legs. I did not even get mad. It never "just falls on the floor". Curse you Murphy! |
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"Leon" wrote in message . com... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz............... the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me Gzzt! Snort! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??? A drive by? |
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"Leon" wrote in message . com... 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the legs. I did not even get mad. You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that. -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:08:31 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg. Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before. The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue is my favorite utility knife. 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the legs. I did not even get mad. leon you need to come by later and clean the cup o hot chocolate off my keyboard :-] ONE more push otta do it!!! lmao skeez |
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"Pounds on Wood" wrote in message You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that. You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was. It'll come to me I am sure. ;~) -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com |
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Leon says:
You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was. It'll come to me I am sure. ;~) You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn |
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"Knothead" wrote in message ... Leon says: You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was. It'll come to me I am sure. ;~) You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn Very fortunately in good health. The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62. IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70 amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can do with out SS. |
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Leon wrote:
[snip] The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue is my favorite utility knife. I have a bottle of TBII that is a year or so old. Lately I have noticed that the glue clumps and won't come out of the bottle elegantly. I remove the top of the bottle, ream it out with a 6d nail, and it works fine for a while. I blamed the age of the glue and/or the nighttime temperature in the shop (about 45-50 dF). Any similarities there to your situation? 20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the legs. I did not even get mad. This qualifies you for canonization by the Church of the Random Variable. Another 20 bucks gets you sainthood. :-) mahalo, jo4hn |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:51:24 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn Very fortunately in good health. The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62. IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70 amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can do with out SS. yeah, I just finished that calculation myself.. If I bet against myself and wait until 65, I'll get about $300 a month more than if I take it at 62 (4 more years)... In return for waiting another 3 years and getting more bucks, I'm loaning SS $3,600 interest free in order to get $300 more a month later... not what I see as a good investment OR a good bet.. I'll take it at 62.. mac Please remove splinters before emailing |
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"mac davis" wrote in message ... yeah, I just finished that calculation myself.. If I bet against myself and wait until 65, I'll get about $300 a month more than if I take it at 62 (4 more years)... In return for waiting another 3 years and getting more bucks, I'm loaning SS $3,600 interest free in order to get $300 more a month later... not what I see as a good investment OR a good bet.. I'll take it at 62.. Actually the interest on $3600 is squat when you consider this. I can get SS at 62 at $300 less than if I wait till 66. I have to wait until 66 for the next increment. Considering this I will have to wait until I am 78 years and 3 months old until the age 66 larger amount actually matches the amount paid out by the age 62 amount. It literally takes 16 years and 3 months for the age 66 pay out to match the age 62 amount paid. Additionally you are figuring your interest wrong. You should be figuring interest on all of the first payment and each payment starting at age 62 . |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:51:24 GMT, "Leon"
wrote: The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62. IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70 amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can do with out SS. It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
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"Tim Douglass" wrote in message - so my current plan is work 'til I die. How's that workin out so far? Myself, I plan to live forever. And that is working out great, so far. -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com |
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"Leon" wrote in message
You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn Very fortunately in good health. I can attest to that. The man't got a grip like a vise ... and I'd broken the little finger on my right hand about a month before I met Leon ... ouch! ;) The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62. IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70 amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can do with out SS. Educate me ... I am fast approaching that decision in about 7 months and my poor brain is too tired at the moment to figure it out. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 11/06/04 |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... Educate me ... I am fast approaching that decision in about 7 months and my poor brain is too tired at the moment to figure it out. This assumes you are not dependent on SS or do not need all of the SS check to survive. Lets assume you will draw $950 a month at age 62 and $1250 per month at age 66. Basically you will be drawing $950 per month, 48 months earlier than if you wait until age 66 to draw $1250. That equates out to $45,600 that SS will pay you between the age of 62 and 66. You will continue to draw that amount until you die. If you wait until age 66 to start drawing you will get $300 more per month but basically you will be $45,600 behind in payments compared to having started receiving payments at age 62. With these figures it will take 16 years and 4 months for the age 66 SS payments to "about" equal the total amount paid out from the age 62 payment. The age 66 SS payments total payout benefits start becoming better if you live longer than 78 years and 3 months. Up until that age the $950 per month for 16 years and 3 months is a greater amount, ($185,250.00) than starting 4 years later at age 66 and getting 12 years and 3 months of payments of $1250 per month., ($185,000). That said, I know that your father has passed that age and you may very well do that also. My father is 82 and in great health. But will SS be around that long and or will you need as much income at age 79 as you will in those years leading up to that age? BTY I have a good friend/neighbor that I have known for about 24 years that works for the SS office in SW Houston near Fondren and the SW Freeway. I can ask her to keep an eye out for you if you would like. |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:17:42 -0800, "Pounds on Wood"
wrote: "Tim Douglass" wrote in message - so my current plan is work 'til I die. How's that workin out so far? Still workin' haven't died yet, so I guess I'm on a roll here. Myself, I plan to live forever. And that is working out great, so far. I'd go for that plan, but I don't want to have to work forever. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
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Knothead wrote:
You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost $175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon. Or maybe I'm being pessimistic. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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Tim Douglass wrote:
It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die. I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep breaking. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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"Silvan" wrote in message I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep breaking. Wrong approach. Sell the idea of what it will cost for you to NOT post those pictures. |
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Silvan responds:
Knothead wrote: You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost $175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon. Or maybe I'm being pessimistic. You think? My father went nuts when I bought a new Chevy convertible in '57. Just under 3 grand. That was the 283, dual 4s, close ratio column 3 speed and absolute **** for brakes and gas mileage, though that sucker would fly. He had bought 2 new cars when he and my mother got married in '34: under a grand, well under, and one was a car I'd kill for today, a rumble seat Ford coupe. Of course, there are people today who will just about kill for that '57, but that's a "been there, done that" and scared myself spitless a few times with the handling and brakes. It was wonderful at 19, but not now. Comparable car today? $45,000? Better, sure, but... Charlie Self "One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above that which is expected." George W. Bush |
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Silvan responds:
Tim Douglass wrote: It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die. I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep breaking. Bubba, I done seed your pixture with clothes in the Roanoke paper one day. No thanks. I'll look at pixture of ME nekkid first. Charlie Self "One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above that which is expected." George W. Bush |
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Charlie Self wrote:
Silvan responds: Tim Douglass wrote: It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die. I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep breaking. Bubba, I done seed your pixture with clothes in the Roanoke paper one day. No thanks. I'll look at pixture of ME nekkid first. Charlie Self "One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above that which is expected." George W. Bush Jeeeeeeezz. A whole newsgroup full of babe magnets. urp, j4 |
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Silvan wrote:
Knothead wrote: You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost $175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon. Or maybe I'm being pessimistic. That's not a bad price for the home, but then I suppose you're forecasting rampant inflation with a concurrent collapse of the housing market. As to the Bugger King lunch, that's probably the super-cholesterolized version, which we're better off without. Yep, I guess everybody needs a little gloom in their lives. zorp, jo4hn |
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You're not really 45k behind if you continue working though are you? If
you make more than $950/mth then you'll still end up with more in the end. SS is also in no danger of imploding, here is a well researched article about it http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/16/ma...tml?oref=login if you're interested |
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"damian penney" wrote in message oups.com... You're not really 45k behind if you continue working though are you? We are talking pay out from SS checks and not your job check. So yes you would be behind in SS pay out if you wait till 66 to start drawing rather than 62. Also you can draw SS and still work. |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:40:32 -0500, Silvan
wrote: Tim Douglass wrote: It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die. I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep breaking. Well, so much for my breakfast! Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
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I didn't know you could draw and work, but I'm only 32 so I haven't
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:40:32 -0500, Silvan
wrote: Tim Douglass wrote: It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die. I'm hoping to make a killing selling nekkit pictures of myself on the internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep breaking. ya know, you'd prolly do better around here selling nekkit pitchers of Robin's butt. Iffen I wanted to see a nekkit wooddorker, I'd look in the mirror. Since I don't do that too often, I guess I must not. |
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On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:21:20 -0800, damian penney wrote:
I didn't know you could draw and work, but I'm only 32 so I haven't studied it too much Ah, you're one of the lucky ones that not only gets to pay the excess SS taxes now, but will also get to pay increased income taxes starting in about 12 years to pay off those "investments" Uncle Sam is buying with those excess contributions for the trust fund. We're enjoying spending those excess contributions on ourselves now and appreciate that you and your kids will pick up the tab later. And it will only get better for us older guys if the SS tax is increased now so even more can be spent on us and even more "investments" can be placed in the trust fund for you and your kids to pay off :-) - Doug -- To escape criticism--do nothing, say nothing, be nothing." (Elbert Hubbard) |
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Leon wrote:
"Pounds on Wood" wrote in message You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that. You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was. It'll come to me I am sure. ;~) -- ******** Bill Pounds http://www.billpounds.com Perhaps the lesson is "don't glue up stuff on your table saw?" I know I never will again! |
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Tim Douglass wrote:
Myself, I plan to live forever. And that is working out great, so far. I'd go for that plan, but I don't want to have to work forever. You don't have to. Haven't you ever heard of Social Security? You can retire at 111 and live forever on $2 a day. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:10:22 -0500, Silvan
wrote: Tim Douglass wrote: Myself, I plan to live forever. And that is working out great, so far. I'd go for that plan, but I don't want to have to work forever. You don't have to. Haven't you ever heard of Social Security? You can retire at 111 and live forever on $2 a day. By the time I'm 111 I'll be way to anti-social to draw social security. They're more likely to be sending security to pick me up. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 23:12:06 -0500, Silvan
wrote: wrote: ya know, you'd prolly do better around here selling nekkit pitchers of Robin's butt. Iffen I wanted to see a nekkit wooddorker, I'd look in the mirror. Since I don't do that too often, I guess I must not. Whenever I look at my butt in the mirror I just get depressed. I look like Hank Hill. I believe that's an occupational hazard. Tim Douglass http://www.DouglassClan.com |
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Charlie Self wrote:
internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep breaking. Bubba, I done seed your pixture with clothes in the Roanoke paper one day. No thanks. I'll look at pixture of ME nekkid first. ROFL!! I was afraid somebody was gonna see those. Now you have a leg up on about every other Wrecker though. You know what SWMBO and the young'uns look like. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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Charlie Self wrote:
Or maybe I'm being pessimistic. You think? My father went nuts when I bought a new Chevy convertible in Or not pessimistic enough? '57. Just under 3 grand. That was the 283, dual 4s, close ratio column 3 speed and absolute **** for brakes and gas mileage, though that sucker would fly. He had bought 2 new cars when he and my mother got married in '34: under a grand, well under, and one was a car I'd kill for today, a rumble seat Ford coupe. Yeah, Dad came home with a '57 Bel Aire one day. A friend of his is a Jay Leno wannabe. I drove it a little. Beautiful car. Cherry. Gorgeous. But it weighed 400,000 pounds and it only had about 1/16 oz. of brake fluid in the ultra miniature master cylinder. Holy **** dude, WTF were they thinking back then? No power steering either. Pretty to look at, but it really sucked to drive. That ended my infatuation with the '57 Chevy forever. I kind of outgrew cars more generally anyway though, really. Cars are one huge black hole for cashola. A habit I never could afford, and I finally stopped daydreaming about it. Comparable car today? $45,000? Better, sure, but... That expensive, really? What sets it apart as being a $45,000 car? Just the chick factor? I'd say it's more of a $25,000 car, but maybe I'm dreaming. Everything is relative though. My grandfather paid $3,000 for a house in 1950-something, and he paid $3,000 for a car in 1970-something, and he paid $3,000 for pills in 2004. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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Upscale wrote:
internet so I can retire at 65. Anybody wanna see some nekkit pictures of me? So far I'm having trouble with this plan because the cameras keep breaking. Wrong approach. Sell the idea of what it will cost for you to NOT post those pictures. Excellent. OK, Wreck, for $500 I promise not to allow myself to be seen /en deshabillé/ (that's nekkit for you ignernt types what ain't learnt no French) for 7 whole days. Pay up. If'n y'uns don't pony up the greenbacks, I'm a-showin' y'all the fat back. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |
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Tim Douglass wrote:
Whenever I look at my butt in the mirror I just get depressed. I look like Hank Hill. I believe that's an occupational hazard. True, and for a truck driver, um, freight distrubution engineering technologist, I'm actually pretty sexy and stuff. Sort of. -- Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ |