Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs
relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg.
Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth
ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before.
The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have
been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last
summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of
the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little
harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then
it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops
off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front
rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap
between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue
is my favorite utility knife.
20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
legs. I did not even get mad.

Weeellllll...... To be honest the answer is yes and no. I've done things
like that, but I would have blown a gasket and started throwing things.

Steve P.

"Leon" wrote in message
. com...
Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs
relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg.
Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide
mouth ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times
before. The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because
I have been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the
end of last summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on
the 3 piece of the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I
squeeze a little harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets
kinda thick. Then it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the
top of the bottle pops off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my
project, down inside the front rail of my TS fence, and across my left
shoe. Also down inside the gap between the TS extension table and front
fence rail under a big gob of glue is my favorite utility knife.
20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
legs. I did not even get mad.

I've got lots of stuff in the woods across from my house because of the
many gaskets I've blown from situations like that. Satellite dish,
weed trimmer, rake, cell phone, cordless mouse, ad infinitum....

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:08:31 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs
relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg.
Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth
ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before.
The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have
been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last
summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of
the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little
harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then
it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops
off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front
rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap
between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue
is my favorite utility knife.
20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
legs. I did not even get mad.

It never "just falls on the floor". Curse you Murphy!

"Leon" wrote in message
. com...



Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............

the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me

Gzzt! Snort! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???
A drive by?

"Leon" wrote in message
. com...
20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
legs. I did not even get mad.



You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that.

--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com

"Pounds on Wood" wrote in message


You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that.

You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but
a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should
not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and
working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was.
It'll come to me I am sure. ;~)




--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com

Leon says:
You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but
a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should
not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and
working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was.
It'll come to me I am sure. ;~)


You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my ss
statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn

"Knothead" wrote in message
...
Leon says:
You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing
but
a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and
should
not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now
and
working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was.
It'll come to me I am sure. ;~)


You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
ss
statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn

Very fortunately in good health.
The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind
that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62.
IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you
will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70
amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can
do with out SS.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:51:24 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:


You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
ss
statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn

Very fortunately in good health.
The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind
that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62.
IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you
will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70
amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can
do with out SS.

yeah, I just finished that calculation myself..

If I bet against myself and wait until 65, I'll get about $300 a month
more than if I take it at 62 (4 more years)...

In return for waiting another 3 years and getting more bucks, I'm
loaning SS $3,600 interest free in order to get $300 more a month
later... not what I see as a good investment OR a good bet..
I'll take it at 62..



mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:51:24 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind
that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62.
IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you
will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70
amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that can
do with out SS.

It's not really the total amount you receive that counts, it is
whether or not the monthly payment is adequate for your needs. I think
I will need to work to about 100+ in order to retire at a high enough
payment to survive - so my current plan is work 'til I die.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

"Leon" wrote in message

You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
ss
statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn

Very fortunately in good health.

I can attest to that. The man't got a grip like a vise ... and I'd broken
the little finger on my right hand about a month before I met Leon ... ouch!
;)

The SS statement is designed to sell you on waiting longer. Keep in mind
that you will be 8 years of payments ahead of the game if you start at 62.
IIRC odds are that if you die at the age that average person dies at you
will get more money if you start at 62 with a lesser amount than the 70
amount. Now that is looking at it from a perspective of some one that
can
do with out SS.

Educate me ... I am fast approaching that decision in about 7 months and my
poor brain is too tired at the moment to figure it out.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 11/06/04

Knothead wrote:

You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn

Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a
new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home
will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost
$175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon.

Or maybe I'm being pessimistic.

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

Silvan responds:

Knothead wrote:

You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn

Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a
new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home
will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost
$175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon.

Or maybe I'm being pessimistic.

You think? My father went nuts when I bought a new Chevy convertible in '57.
Just under 3 grand. That was the 283, dual 4s, close ratio column 3 speed and
absolute **** for brakes and gas mileage, though that sucker would fly. He had
bought 2 new cars when he and my mother got married in '34: under a grand, well
under, and one was a car I'd kill for today, a rumble seat Ford coupe.

Of course, there are people today who will just about kill for that '57, but
that's a "been there, done that" and scared myself spitless a few times with
the handling and brakes. It was wonderful at 19, but not now.

Comparable car today? $45,000? Better, sure, but...

Charlie Self
"One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise above
that which is expected." George W. Bush

Silvan wrote:

Knothead wrote:


You retired at 40? Not for physical reasons I hope. I keep looking at my
ss statement from da gubmint and they keep telling
me how much I'll make if I work til 70... Damn


Gonna be hard to live on $12.41 a month innit? Especially in 2042 when a
new econobox with a 2 cc engine will cost $147,300, a 2,000 sq. ft. home
will cost $397,000, the economy lunch special at Burger King will cost
$175.81, oh, and gas will be $24.82 a gallon.

Or maybe I'm being pessimistic.


That's not a bad price for the home, but then I suppose you're
forecasting rampant inflation with a concurrent collapse of the housing
market. As to the Bugger King lunch, that's probably the
super-cholesterolized version, which we're better off without. Yep, I
guess everybody needs a little gloom in their lives.
zorp,
jo4hn

Leon wrote:
"Pounds on Wood" wrote in message

You really should get mad. It's not good to bottle (PI) it up like that.


You know Bill at 50 I have come to the realization that life is nothing but
a series of lessons. I figure that I have learned something here and should
not get up set. I just enjoy being suscssfully retired for 10 years now and
working out in the shop. I do how ever wonder what today's lesson was.
It'll come to me I am sure. ;~)





--
********
Bill Pounds
http://www.billpounds.com





Perhaps the lesson is "don't glue up stuff on your table saw?" I know I
never will again!

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:08:31 GMT, "Leon"
wrote:

Ok, to bring you up to speed I am in the middle of gluing up 4 solid Oak
table legs. 3.5" wide and gluing 5, 3/4" thick pieces to make the legs
relatively square. Basically 448 square inches of glue on each leg.
Before I got started I used my new gallon of TBII to top off my wide mouth
ProBond glue bottle. Not a problem, I have done this many times before.
The ProBond bottle of glue has been setting up for a while because I have
been using the free case of TBIII that Franklin sent me near the end of last
summer. The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of
the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little
harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then
it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops
off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front
rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap
between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue
is my favorite utility knife.
20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
legs. I did not even get mad.


leon you need to come by later and clean the cup o hot chocolate off
my keyboard :-] ONE more push otta do it!!! lmao

skeez

Leon wrote:
[snip] The first leg glue goes fine but as I am working on the 3 piece of
the second leg the glue stops coming out of the bottle. I squeeze a little
harder and a little more comes out. Then the glue gets kinda thick. Then
it stops. Then I squeeze a little harder. Then the top of the bottle pops
off and about 12 oz. of glue spills out on my project, down inside the front
rail of my TS fence, and across my left shoe. Also down inside the gap
between the TS extension table and front fence rail under a big gob of glue
is my favorite utility knife.

I have a bottle of TBII that is a year or so old. Lately I have noticed
that the glue clumps and won't come out of the bottle elegantly. I
remove the top of the bottle, ream it out with a 6d nail, and it works
fine for a while. I blamed the age of the glue and/or the nighttime
temperature in the shop (about 45-50 dF). Any similarities there to
your situation?

20 minutes later the mess was cleaned up and I was back to gluing up the
legs. I did not even get mad.


This qualifies you for canonization by the Church of the Random
Variable. Another 20 bucks gets you sainthood. :-)
mahalo,
jo4hn