My "Smelly Freight" dust collector has been going strong for 4 yrs
now--albeit with an aftermarket 1micron filter... hell of a deal at the
price.

Cheers, Shawn

These are from
http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/08...nd-the-abysmal

Worth a look.

===================


2) Top Ten Things NOT to Buy at Harbor Freight (Humor)
I can’t resist things lists like this. This one comes from DetroitTom
in Tractorbynet forum…
10 Things I Wouldn’t Buy from Harbor Freight:
1) Parachutes
2) Fire Extinguishers
3) Pacemakers
4) Vaccines
5) Birth control devices
6) Elevators
7) Bullet proof vests
8) Trigger locks
9) Pitons (I didn’t know what this was either…)
10) Scuba Gear

3) Derogatory yet Slightly Loving Harbor Freight Nicknames
Unfortunately I can only remember/find one: “horror freight.” I know
there was another one I saw out there… I think it was “hardly
freight…” Update… here are some nicknames from the comments on this
article and in recent forum threads:
Harbor Fright
Bottom of the Harbor Freight
Harbor Hate
The Chinese Cheesecake Factory
For their inexpensive, thrice-yearly-use Chinese air tools, we call
them, “INGERSOLL-CHAN.”
China Fright

"kimosabe" wrote in message
...

These are from
http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/08...nd-the-abysmal

Worth a look.

===================


2) Top Ten Things NOT to Buy at Harbor Freight (Humor)
I can’t resist things lists like this. This one comes from DetroitTom
in Tractorbynet forum…
10 Things I Wouldn’t Buy from Harbor Freight:
1) Parachutes
2) Fire Extinguishers
3) Pacemakers
4) Vaccines
5) Birth control devices
6) Elevators
7) Bullet proof vests
8) Trigger locks
9) Pitons (I didn’t know what this was either…)
10) Scuba Gear

3) Derogatory yet Slightly Loving Harbor Freight Nicknames
Unfortunately I can only remember/find one: “horror freight.” I know
there was another one I saw out there… I think it was “hardly
freight…” Update… here are some nicknames from the comments on this
article and in recent forum threads:
Harbor Fright
Bottom of the Harbor Freight
Harbor Hate
The Chinese Cheesecake Factory
For their inexpensive, thrice-yearly-use Chinese air tools, we call
them, “INGERSOLL-CHAN.”
China Fright

*********************
Horrible Freight or just simply "Horribles" when referring to the local store.
Art

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:38:56 -0800 (PST), kimosabe
wrote:


These are from
http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/08...nd-the-abysmal

Worth a look.

===================


2) Top Ten Things NOT to Buy at Harbor Freight (Humor)

snip

Things I DO buy at Harbor Freight:

1. Glue brushes

...... 'k.... there's gotta' be more....

-Zz

"Zz Yzx" wrote:

Things I DO buy at Harbor Freight:

1. Glue brushes

..... 'k.... there's gotta' be more....

----------------------------------------
Disposable items such as gloves and chip brushes.

Quick connect pneumatic couplings.

Spring clamps.

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:4ee80f80$0$19614
:


"Zz Yzx" wrote:

Things I DO buy at Harbor Freight:

1. Glue brushes

..... 'k.... there's gotta' be more....

----------------------------------------
Disposable items such as gloves and chip brushes.

Quick connect pneumatic couplings.

Spring clamps.

Lew





Their multimeters look just like some of the others (I bet they're the
same internally) but cost way less. As a result, I've got about half a
dozen.

If there's not a multimeter around when you need it, you don't have
enough.

Puckdropper

--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:38:56 -0800 (PST), kimosabe
wrote:



9) Pitons (I didn’t know what this was either…)

Pitons are a metal spike used in rock and mountain climbing. You use
them to hold the ropes.

Don't ask me for more details. You won't find my fat ass going up a
rock wall no matter how big the rope.

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:38:56 -0800 (PST), kimosabe
wrote:


These are from
http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/08...nd-the-abysmal

Worth a look.

===================


2) Top Ten Things NOT to Buy at Harbor Freight (Humor)
I can’t resist things lists like this. This one comes from DetroitTom
in Tractorbynet forum…
10 Things I Wouldn’t Buy from Harbor Freight:
1) Parachutes
2) Fire Extinguishers
3) Pacemakers
4) Vaccines
5) Birth control devices
6) Elevators
7) Bullet proof vests
8) Trigger locks
9) Pitons (I didn’t know what this was either…)

You must not climb.


10) Scuba Gear

3) Derogatory yet Slightly Loving Harbor Freight Nicknames
Unfortunately I can only remember/find one: “horror freight.” I know
there was another one I saw out there… I think it was “hardly
freight…” Update… here are some nicknames from the comments on this
article and in recent forum threads:
Harbor Fright
Bottom of the Harbor Freight
Harbor Hate
The Chinese Cheesecake Factory
For their inexpensive, thrice-yearly-use Chinese air tools, we call
them, “INGERSOLL-CHAN.”

Love it!


China Fright

You forgot the ones I hear most: Horrible Freight, Harbor Fright.

I've been buying tools from them for 40 years and am still using some
(if not most) of them. There've been some real losers, but all told,
the tools have been quite serviceable.

I've had to fine-tune just as many brand-name US-made tools, too.
(clean, lube, deburr, refinish handles, etc.)

--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:

Don't ask me for more details. You won't find my fat ass going up a
rock wall no matter how big the rope.
-----------------------------------------
You want an argument, change the subject.

Lew

On Dec 13, 9:20*pm, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:4ee80f80$0$19614
:







"Zz Yzx" wrote:

Things I DO buy at Harbor Freight:

1. Glue brushes

..... 'k.... there's gotta' be more....

----------------------------------------
Disposable items such as gloves and chip brushes.

Quick connect pneumatic couplings.

Spring clamps.

Lew

Their multimeters look just like some of the others (I bet they're the
same internally) but cost way less. *As a result, I've got about half a
dozen.

If there's not a multimeter around when you need it, you don't have
enough.

Puckdropper

--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

http://www.harborfreight.com/8-piece...set-47066.html

HSS lathe tools from Harbor Freight. Good buy for spindle work.

kimosabe wrote:
These are from
http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/08...nd-the-abysmal

Worth a look.

===================


2) Top Ten Things NOT to Buy at Harbor Freight (Humor)
I can’t resist things lists like this. This one comes from DetroitTom
in Tractorbynet forum…
10 Things I Wouldn’t Buy from Harbor Freight:
1) Parachutes
2) Fire Extinguishers
3) Pacemakers
4) Vaccines
5) Birth control devices
6) Elevators
7) Bullet proof vests
8) Trigger locks
9) Pitons (I didn’t know what this was either…)
10) Scuba Gear

3) Derogatory yet Slightly Loving Harbor Freight Nicknames
Unfortunately I can only remember/find one: “horror freight.” I know
there was another one I saw out there… I think it was “hardly
freight…” Update… here are some nicknames from the comments on this
article and in recent forum threads:
Harbor Fright
Bottom of the Harbor Freight
Harbor Hate
The Chinese Cheesecake Factory
For their inexpensive, thrice-yearly-use Chinese air tools, we call
them, “INGERSOLL-CHAN.”
China Fright

Laugh all you want. Recently I tried to use a Lowe's house-brand (TaskForce)
1/8" hex wrench. It broke. That's exactly what it did, the wrench snapped
right in two!

I've been using hex wrenches for 50 years and never had one break. Oh,
they'll BEND or TWIST if too much torque is applied, but break? Never. And I
wasn't even using a cheater, just hand pressure. On a hex-head WOOD screw!

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from HF). Did
the job.

I took the offending hex wrench back to Lowes and told the manager I wanted
to trade this defective in material, design, and workmanship tool for a
ten-dollar gift card.

"We don't guarantee our low-priced hand tools" he said.

"Odd," I replied. "Harbor Freight has a lifetime guarantee on all the hand
tools they sell."

"Get the **** outta my store!" he said, as he began to pummel me with a
returned hunk of plastic pipe. Or at least that's what I heard.

As soon as I find a moving staircase, I'm gonna escalate.

On Dec 14, 7:04*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from HF). Did
the job.

This is the first time in my life I've seen the word 'hie' outside of
a crossword puzzle.

In article
,
kimosabe wrote:

These are from
http://www.toolcrib.com/blog/2008/08...ht-buying-guid
e-the-good-enough-the-bad-and-the-abysmal

Worth a look.

Harbor Freight, your store for disposable tools

--
--------------------------------------------------------
Personal e-mail is the n7bsn but at amsat.org
This posting address is a spam-trap and seldom read
RV and Camping FAQ can be found at
http://www.ralphandellen.us/rv

kimosabe wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:04 am, wrote:

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from HF). Did
the job.

This is the first time in my life I've seen the word 'hie' outside of
a crossword puzzle.


How about "Hie old Silver".

--
Gerald Ross

Everyone must row with the oars he has.

Nickname; "Chinese-political-prisoner-tool-company'.

My BIL loves the place. I'm more careful, balancing cost, how much I
use the tool, and how bad I'm going to feel if/when it breaks. I've
got a lot of small hand tools from there, and a car system scan tool,
but not much that would see heavy service. I work in a research lab
in a State university, and almost ALL the hand tools are HF because
they are inexpensive, and as one prof says "they have a high vapor
pressure" (they evaporate quickly).

On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:56:25 -0800 (PST), lektric dan
wrote:

Nickname; "Chinese-political-prisoner-tool-company'.

My fave is Chinese Red Dragon Noodle and Machine Tool Factory.



My BIL loves the place. I'm more careful, balancing cost, how much I
use the tool, and how bad I'm going to feel if/when it breaks. I've
got a lot of small hand tools from there, and a car system scan tool,
but not much that would see heavy service. I work in a research lab
in a State university, and almost ALL the hand tools are HF because
they are inexpensive, and as one prof says "they have a high vapor
pressure" (they evaporate quickly).

Yeah, they're a great buy for loan-out to idiots (aka: your friends
and neighbors, wives, kids, etc.)

--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:56:25 -0800 (PST), lektric dan
wrote:

Nickname; "Chinese-political-prisoner-tool-company'.

My fave is Chinese Red Dragon Noodle and Machine Tool Factory.


I bought a gallon of Evaporust and a 50-foot "fish tape" from them this
week. Can anything go wrong?--lol The fish tape needs to pull wires
through the off-the-shelf offset connectors (between EMT and the box).

Bill

On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:54:50 -0500, Bill wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:56:25 -0800 (PST), lektric dan
wrote:

Nickname; "Chinese-political-prisoner-tool-company'.

My fave is Chinese Red Dragon Noodle and Machine Tool Factory.


I bought a gallon of Evaporust and a 50-foot "fish tape" from them this
week. Can anything go wrong?--lol The fish tape needs to pull wires
through the off-the-shelf offset connectors (between EMT and the box).

All I can think of to say here is likely not in the NEC guidelines:
"Thou Shalt Not Pull Rusty Wires Thru Galv Fittings"

P.S: Don't use Evaporust as a wire lube, either. DAMHIKT

--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill

On Dec 14, 4:09*pm, Gerald Ross wrote:

How about "Hie old Silver".

--
Gerald Ross

At first, that looked like a pun. i think it may have something to
it. Linguistic roots.

On 12/14/2011 7:59 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

P.S: Don't use Evaporust as a wire lube, either. DAMHIKT

Don't sweat it, Larry, Bill has a 2-ounce bottle of G-B WireAide that I
gave him a little while back.

On 12/14/2011 02:09 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
kimosabe wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:04 am, wrote:

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from HF).
Did
the job.

This is the first time in my life I've seen the word 'hie' outside of
a crossword puzzle.


How about "Hie old Silver".


"Hi yo Silver, Away"


--
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
-Winston Churchill

On 12/14/2011 8:15 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 12/14/2011 02:09 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
kimosabe wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:04 am, wrote:

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from HF).
Did
the job.

This is the first time in my life I've seen the word 'hie' outside of
a crossword puzzle.


How about "Hie old Silver".


"Hi yo Silver, Away"

That's the way I always heard it, Kimosabe.

--
www.eWoodShop.com
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious)
http://gplus.to/eWoodShop

On Dec 14, 9:24*pm, Swingman wrote:


"Hi yo Silver, Away"

That's the way I always heard it, Kimosabe.

Agreed.

On 12/14/11 8:24 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 12/14/2011 8:15 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 12/14/2011 02:09 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
kimosabe wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:04 am, wrote:

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from HF).
Did
the job.

This is the first time in my life I've seen the word 'hie' outside of
a crossword puzzle.


How about "Hie old Silver".


"Hi yo Silver, Away"

That's the way I always heard it, Kimosabe.


You can google the scripts.
It's in there several ways, including, "Hi You, Silver!!" "Hi ho,
Silver!!' and Hi yo, Silver!!"

It's quite possible that the original phrase came from the word hie,
since they were written in the 30's and that word was probably more
common. "Hie You, Silver!!" makes perfect sense, grammatically, but not
necessarily theatrically or written to be read by radio actors.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

On 12/13/2011 10:49 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:


You forgot the ones I hear most: Horrible Freight, Harbor Fright.

I've been buying tools from them for 40 years and am still using some
(if not most) of them. There've been some real losers, but all told,
the tools have been quite serviceable.

Some years ago I bought a couple of their orange-accented mini-bar
clamps, the Quick-Grip knockoffs. They were just too cheap to resist and
they were a little longer than the Irwin ones I had. The handle broke on
the first one within one minute of removing it from the package, during
my very first attempt to clamp it onto something. I claim no
extraordinary "grip" strength, and certainly squeezed it no harder than
any of the hundreds of times I have used the Irwins.

I decided to remember to be gentle with the second, reserving it for
light tasks. It broke on the very first light task. The pretty orange
plastic cracked in half, just like the first clamp.

kimosabe wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:04 am, "HeyBub" wrote:

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from
HF). Did the job.

This is the first time in my life I've seen the word 'hie' outside of
a crossword puzzle.

I know what you mean. I almost fell in love with a gal on the first date
because she used the word "loon" in a sentence.

My enthusiasm was somewhat tempered because the sentence in which the word
presented itself was a self-description.

Doug Winterburn wrote:
On 12/14/2011 02:09 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
kimosabe wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:04 am, wrote:

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from
HF). Did
the job.

This is the first time in my life I've seen the word 'hie' outside
of a crossword puzzle.


How about "Hie old Silver".


"Hi yo Silver, Away"

Which has a certain panache compared to "Horse feet, make tracks!"

On 12/15/11 12:11 PM, HeyBub wrote:
kimosabe wrote:
On Dec 14, 7:04 am, wrote:

I hie myself to my truck and retrieve my back-up set ($3.99 from
HF). Did the job.

This is the first time in my life I've seen the word 'hie' outside of
a crossword puzzle.

I know what you mean. I almost fell in love with a gal on the first date
because she used the word "loon" in a sentence.

My enthusiasm was somewhat tempered because the sentence in which the word
presented itself was a self-description.


I thought it was either a bird, or a Canadian one dollar coin. :-)

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

On Dec 13, 10:20*pm, Puckdropper puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in news:4ee80f80$0$19614
:







"Zz Yzx" wrote:

Things I DO buy at Harbor Freight:

1. Glue brushes

..... 'k.... there's gotta' be more....

----------------------------------------
Disposable items such as gloves and chip brushes.

Quick connect pneumatic couplings.

Spring clamps.

Lew

Their multimeters look just like some of the others (I bet they're the
same internally) but cost way less. *As a result, I've got about half a
dozen.

If there's not a multimeter around when you need it, you don't have
enough.

Puckdropper

--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I feel pretty much the same as everyone else about HF. Go in there
with your eyes open and you'll do OK. Be cautious, though, with
regard to the multi-meter. I work at a large government lab and we
had a safety alert a couple of years ago with serious problems with
the multi-meter HF was selling. I actuall have one myself. Can't
bear to throw it out but I'll only use it for low voltage
applications.

Bill

On 12/15/11 3:09 PM, Edward A. Falk wrote:
In ,
wrote:

I know what you mean. I almost fell in love with a gal on the first date
because she used the word "loon" in a sentence.

Once had a girl fall in love with me because I used
"cultural imperialism" correctly in a sentence.

Then you ruined it by saying "golly gee wilikers". :-)

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

I see HF has AA batteries on sale w/coupon 24 for $4.99.
I've had better luck with those than the equivalent from Frys
Electronics (which were too weak to power my CD player).

On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 11:56:06 -0800 (PST), Bill Leonhardt
wrote:

I feel pretty much the same as everyone else about HF. Go in there
with your eyes open and you'll do OK. Be cautious, though, with
regard to the multi-meter. I work at a large government lab and we
had a safety alert a couple of years ago with serious problems with
the multi-meter HF was selling. I actuall have one myself. Can't
bear to throw it out but I'll only use it for low voltage
applications.

Bill, are you saying that you're afraid to check a 15kV line with a $3
HF multimeter? Hmm, you may have a point there.

--
Silence is more musical than any song.
-- Christina Rossetti

In article , says...

I see HF has AA batteries on sale w/coupon 24 for $4.99.
I've had better luck with those than the equivalent from Frys
Electronics (which were too weak to power my CD player).

FWIW, Wally World will sell you a set of four NiMH AAs and a charger for
13 bucks. That should power your CD player for the next decade or so.
Only place I use nonrechargeables these days is applications where the
draw is so low that self-discharge becomes an issue (clocks mostly). If
it's something where I change the batteries every day or every week the
rechargeables are slam-dunk.

J. Clarke wrote:
In , says...

I see HF has AA batteries on sale w/coupon 24 for $4.99.
I've had better luck with those than the equivalent from Frys
Electronics (which were too weak to power my CD player).

FWIW, Wally World will sell you a set of four NiMH AAs and a charger for
13 bucks. That should power your CD player for the next decade or so.

My CD player takes 8 AAs. : )
Point well-taken though!

Only place I use nonrechargeables these days is applications where the
draw is so low that self-discharge becomes an issue (clocks mostly). If
it's something where I change the batteries every day or every week the
rechargeables are slam-dunk.

Bill wrote in :


My CD player takes 8 AAs. : )
Point well-taken though!


8 AAs is a lot of batteries for a CD player. If it's a boombox, you'll
probably be further ahead looking for some way to power that off of the
wall.

For about a year of listening to CDs, you could get a "shop" or "jobsite"
boombox that uses the same batteries as your cordless drill. Some will
even charge the batteries if hooked up to wall power. (Makita, why doesn't
yours?)

Puckdropper
--
Make it to fit, don't make it fit.

Bill wrote:
J. Clarke wrote:
In , says...

I see HF has AA batteries on sale w/coupon 24 for $4.99.
I've had better luck with those than the equivalent from Frys
Electronics (which were too weak to power my CD player).

FWIW, Wally World will sell you a set of four NiMH AAs and a charger
for 13 bucks. That should power your CD player for the next decade
or so.

My CD player takes 8 AAs. : )
Point well-taken though!


You have a CD player that takes 8 AA's? Geezus Bill - what in the hell do
you have for a CD player?

--

-Mike-

Puckdropper wrote:
wrote in :


My CD player takes 8 AAs. : )
Point well-taken though!


8 AAs is a lot of batteries for a CD player. If it's a boombox, you'll
probably be further ahead looking for some way to power that off of the
wall.

This CD/AM/FM player is actually designed to be used in the shower, so
I'm going to stick with the batteries. I'd estimate that the batteries
last for about 20 hours of CD play (which I think is quite acceptable).
I'm most-probably behind the times--I'd expect that an mp3 player would
provide more performance for the same number of batteries.


For about a year of listening to CDs, you could get a "shop" or "jobsite"
boombox that uses the same batteries as your cordless drill. Some will
even charge the batteries if hooked up to wall power. (Makita, why doesn't
yours?)

Puckdropper

Mike Marlow wrote:
Bill wrote:
J. Clarke wrote:
In , says...

I see HF has AA batteries on sale w/coupon 24 for $4.99.
I've had better luck with those than the equivalent from Frys
Electronics (which were too weak to power my CD player).

FWIW, Wally World will sell you a set of four NiMH AAs and a charger
for 13 bucks. That should power your CD player for the next decade
or so.

My CD player takes 8 AAs. : )
Point well-taken though!


You have a CD player that takes 8 AA's? Geezus Bill - what in the hell do
you have for a CD player?

Mike, Counting a DVD player as a CD player, we have more of them than we
need. Doesn't everyone? I think my last DVD player cost about $20--and
it received "Maximum PC" magazine's top rating--and has "light scribe"
technology (to write ON the disk) that I have no interest in.
I doubt anyone in the US is manufacturing CD players.

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:56:06 -0500, Bill wrote:

Mike Marlow wrote:
Bill wrote:
J. Clarke wrote:
In , says...

I see HF has AA batteries on sale w/coupon 24 for $4.99.
I've had better luck with those than the equivalent from Frys
Electronics (which were too weak to power my CD player).

FWIW, Wally World will sell you a set of four NiMH AAs and a charger
for 13 bucks. That should power your CD player for the next decade
or so.

My CD player takes 8 AAs. : )
Point well-taken though!


You have a CD player that takes 8 AA's? Geezus Bill - what in the hell do
you have for a CD player?

Mike, Counting a DVD player as a CD player, we have more of them than we
need. Doesn't everyone? I think my last DVD player cost about $20--and
it received "Maximum PC" magazine's top rating--and has "light scribe"
technology (to write ON the disk) that I have no interest in.
I doubt anyone in the US is manufacturing CD players.

I doubt if you'd find a DVD player made in the US.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

On Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:40:53 -0500, Bill wrote:



This CD/AM/FM player is actually designed to be used in the shower, so
I'm going to stick with the batteries.

Do you really use it in the shower? I cannot imagine going 6 to 8
minutes without music!