Leon wrote:

Hey it was the other guy that said

Actually, volume and weight is where the metric system really shines.

So he did. Sorry - attributions got all screwed up somehow.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

On 2009-09-09, Leon wrote:

I have rules in the shop that indicate that. Not a problem. But still I
asked about a rule indicating 1/2 of 5.3 mm.

I'm pretty sure there are rules that mark .5mm, which is about .020',
which is only .005" more tha 1/64. Your attempt to get someone to
meet your absurd challenge of half of .3mm (.011) on a rule is as
ridiculous as having a scale reading in 128ths. Who could use such a
rule even if someone was stupid enough to make one. Besides, there
are many other ways to measure other than with a rule. None of them
have any use in woodworking. Give it a rest.

nb

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I
can quote on them.
Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're
the purpose of them are.
Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is
hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are.
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in
both metric and imperial.
But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an
archaic system?

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg


It all boils down to time Robatoy. It takes you longer to say metric stuff
than inche stuff. Time is money.

In the time we can say 1/2 inch and measure it. You are still listening to
the guy calling out, gimme Twelve m i l l - i - m e t e r s.
Or drive one mile vs. drive one k i l l - o - m e t e r .

Too many dang syllables in that metric stuff.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
:


"J. Clarke" wrote in message

The hold-out is that the US is still at least somewhat responsive to
the will of the people and the public doesn't _want_ some bizarre
French system
crammed down its throat.

So instead of getting paid in dollars and cents should we change to a
system of farthings, shillings, or ringgits?

Much of our country happily works with metric every day and have for
decades. Those people don't look any worse for wear.

As mentioned, it is all what you are used to. As a born Hllander who
came to the US in '69 at 25 yoa, I should tell you that getting used to
inches and feet is not that easy at first, and I still have trouble with
the farting fractions of an inch. The metric system, once you get used
to it is much easier (IMNSHO) than the US system. An important thing to
get under your hat is the idea of order of magnitude (1, 10, 100, 1000,
etc). This will make it much easier to estimate whether your
calculations were right, or that you forgot to enter a digit on your
calculator, which then very accurately gave you an undesired answer.
Know our orders of magnitude, and whoosh goes that problem.

Nevertheless, miles, feet, inches come pretty natural to me now, as do
meters, centimeters and nanometers. To interchange them, I need a
calculator calibrated to about 2.54 (cm/inch).


--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...


So instead of getting paid in dollars and cents should we change to a
system of farthings, shillings, or ringgits?

Much of our country happily works with metric every day and have for
decades. Those people don't look any worse for wear.


I the the jury is still out on the metric CLOCK. ;~)

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2009-09-09, Leon wrote:

I have rules in the shop that indicate that. Not a problem. But still I
asked about a rule indicating 1/2 of 5.3 mm.

I'm pretty sure there are rules that mark .5mm, which is about .020',
which is only .005" more tha 1/64. Your attempt to get someone to
meet your absurd challenge of half of .3mm (.011) on a rule is as
ridiculous as having a scale reading in 128ths. Who could use such a
rule even if someone was stupid enough to make one. Besides, there
are many other ways to measure other than with a rule. None of them
have any use in woodworking. Give it a rest.

nb


Give it a rest? Give it a rest? The OP asked why we hang on to imperial. I
replied with what is half of 5.3mm. YOU gave the answer but tried with out
success to show me a ruler with that marking. ;~) If you give up fine, you
can give it a rest. I was only asking 2 reasonable questions.

"Larry C" wrote in message
...

"Tom Veatch" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:16:02 GMT, "Larry C"
wrote:

The Freemasons are the ones keeping the Metric system out of the US.

I assume that's tongue in cheek, 'cause if it was intended as a
serious statement, it's unadulterated horse****.

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA



It was a joke

Exactly. It is the Knights Templar.

On 2009-09-09, Leon wrote:

I the the jury is still out on the metric CLOCK. ;~)

Heh.....

I have no prob with metric, but I'll stick with Fahrenheit, too.

nb

"Leon" wrote in message
...

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
...


So instead of getting paid in dollars and cents should we change to a
system of farthings, shillings, or ringgits?

Much of our country happily works with metric every day and have for
decades. Those people don't look any worse for wear.


I the the jury is still out on the metric CLOCK. ;~)

It would be smarter to use a 24H clock though.

"Leon" wrote in message
Yeah but! ;~) Isn't Ikea stuff metric?

What do you expect? It's 99% sawdust. Metric has to figure in there
somewhere.

On 2009-09-09, Leon wrote:

replied with what is half of 5.3mm. YOU gave the answer but tried with out
success to show me a ruler with that marking.

That's because NO ONE! makes a RULE in that small a graduation, in
either Imperial or Metric. They don't make it cuz no one can use it!!
There are other measuring instruments that can easily make that
measurement in metric. What don't you understand?

nb

"Han" wrote in message
...
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
:

As mentioned, it is all what you are used to. As a born Hllander who
came to the US in '69 at 25 yoa, I should tell you that getting used to
inches and feet is not that easy at first, and I still have trouble with
the farting fractions of an inch.

I am sure you are right. But respectfully I ask, if you have trouble with
fractions of an inch, did you study fractions at all when growing up?
Absolutely no disrespect is intended with that question.
In the US we are taught fractions early in school, that may be why we prefer
fractions of a measurement rather than a whole number portion of a
measurement.


snip


Nevertheless, miles, feet, inches come pretty natural to me now, as do
meters, centimeters and nanometers. To interchange them, I need a
calculator calibrated to about 2.54 (cm/inch).

In the times that I use metric and inches I just "round" 25 mm to the inch,
4" ~ 100mm.
1/2 inch ~ 12.5 mm or 6 1/2 mm
1/4 inch ~ 6.25mm or 6 1/4 mm
1/8 inch ~ 3.125mm or 3 1/8 mm

On 2009-09-09, Upscale wrote:

What do you expect? It's 99% sawdust. Metric has to figure in there
somewhere.

LOL...

Morris Dovey wrote in :

Leon wrote:

Actually, volume and weight is where the metric system really shines.

Really? What is the metric unit for weight?

Just yankin your chain. ;~)

Bakatcha


Newtons. But no one uses Newtons (except certain PDA users). Mass is
usually confused for weight. Just wait until we find life on other
planets and go there, just wait!

We'll probably be using a different measuring system by then. :-)

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

"Leon" wrote in message
Actually, volume and weight is where the metric system really shines.

Depends on where you live. Up here in the great white north, metric is and
has been invading most everything. That is, except for the food that we
export up from the US. And, considering that 90% of our food comes from the
US, it's a wonder we don't all starve deciding how to allocated all those
pounds and quarts of food.

"basilisk" wrote in news:h85kph$gaj$1
@news.eternal-september.org:


"Robatoy" wrote in message
news:a0c7c3a5-74b9-475f-8cb0-7c31169ca4b1
@l9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I
can quote on them.
Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're
the purpose of them are.
Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is
hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are.
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in
both metric and imperial.
But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an
archaic system?

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QTj45cTB4U

basilisk

Hilarious!!!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 2009-09-09, Upscale wrote:

has been invading most everything. That is, except for the food that we
export up from the US. And, considering that 90% of our food comes from the
US, it's a wonder we don't all starve deciding how to allocated all those
pounds and quarts of food.

We're bound to go metric pretty soon. After all, isn't Mexico on the
metric system.

nb

"notbob" wrote in message
...
On 2009-09-09, Leon wrote:

I the the jury is still out on the metric CLOCK. ;~)

Heh.....

I have no prob with metric, but I'll stick with Fahrenheit, too.

nb


A N D I can live with metric also. But the only ones that seem so concerned
about the US still using inches are the ones that use the "easier" metric
system. Easier is not always the best path to take.

"J. Clarke" wrote in
:


The hold-out is that the US is still at least somewhat responsive to
the will of the people and the public doesn't _want_ some bizarre
French system crammed down its throat.


The trouble really isn't the origin of the system, but the fact that the
old one still works perfectly well. When you get past 1/32", you might
as well switch the decimal representation of the value, it'll be
difficult any way.

Between feet, inches, and miles, just about every distance most people
want expressed is expressed. It's not broken, it's just not always easy
to convert between magnitudes... but points where one magnitude is equal
to another in use are few. (And at points where the math is relatively
easy.)

Puckdropper
--
"The potential difference between the top and bottom of a tree is the
reason why all trees have to be grounded..." -- Bored Borg on
rec.woodworking

To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm

"Leon" wrote in
:


"Han" wrote in message
...
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
:

As mentioned, it is all what you are used to. As a born Hllander who
came to the US in '69 at 25 yoa, I should tell you that getting used
to inches and feet is not that easy at first, and I still have
trouble with the farting fractions of an inch.

I am sure you are right. But respectfully I ask, if you have trouble
with fractions of an inch, did you study fractions at all when growing
up? Absolutely no disrespect is intended with that question.
In the US we are taught fractions early in school, that may be why we
prefer fractions of a measurement rather than a whole number portion
of a measurement.

I'll answer honestly. YES!!! I was taught fractions. Ad nauseam. But
it was more esoteric and academic then woodworking practicality. There
were no woodworking classes in first through 4th grade in Holland.
Certainly after that you were supposed to be able to do all the fractions
"in your head". Getting rusty now ...

But that really is not your question. For me the problem is whether 5/16
is bigger or smaller than 1/4. Or similar problems, and I have to always
back calculate that to identical denominators, and that isn't (anymore)
automagical!!

snip


Nevertheless, miles, feet, inches come pretty natural to me now, as
do meters, centimeters and nanometers. To interchange them, I need a
calculator calibrated to about 2.54 (cm/inch).

In the times that I use metric and inches I just "round" 25 mm to the
inch, 4" ~ 100mm.
1/2 inch ~ 12.5 mm or 6 1/2 mm
1/4 inch ~ 6.25mm or 6 1/4 mm
1/8 inch ~ 3.125mm or 3 1/8 mm

Obviously I use very similar guestimates.

I do appreciate your discussion, Leon!!!
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On Sep 8, 9:08*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I
can quote on them.
Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're
the purpose of them are.
Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is
hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are.
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in
both metric and imperial.
But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an
archaic system?

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg

It all boils down to time Robatoy. *It takes you longer to say metric stuff
than inche stuff. *Time is money.

In the time we can say 1/2 inch and measure it. *You are still listening to
the guy calling out, *gimme Twelve m *i *l *l * - *i *- *m *e *t *e *r *s.
Or drive one mile vs. drive one k * i * l * l *- *o *- * m * e * t * e * r .

Too many dang syllables in that metric stuff.

LOL...not so!

I drive at 100 K on the highway or 50 K in town, 40 K at a school
zone..
In normal conversation: " I drove a buck-twenty most of the way here."
We never speak of millimeters..we speak of 'little stripes'.

notbob wrote in
:

On 2009-09-09, Leon wrote:

I the the jury is still out on the metric CLOCK. ;~)

Heh.....

I have no prob with metric, but I'll stick with Fahrenheit, too.

nb

Fahrenheit, centigrade, it's the same. I like Fahrenheit because "tomorrow
it'll be in the high sixties" is more (im)precise than saying it'll be 17
to 21 degrees. I like centigrade because -40 is -40. Because zero is
freezing, and 100 boiling, 36.8 is body temp, 42 a rather high fever.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 9/8/09 8:34 AM, "dpb" wrote:

Robatoy wrote:
...

But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an
archaic system?

Comfort...it's what people grew up with so it's what's natural.

Translation - laziness.

"Morris Dovey" wrote in message
...
Leon wrote:

Hey it was the other guy that said

Actually, volume and weight is where the metric system really shines.

So he did. Sorry - attributions got all screwed up somehow.

--
Morris Dovey
DeSoto Solar
DeSoto, Iowa USA
http://www.iedu.com/DeSoto/

Blame it on your news reader! LOL... I blame my news reader and it's
Spell Checker, that only works when I spell words correctly, and does not
when I don't.

notbob wrote in
:

On 2009-09-09, Upscale wrote:

has been invading most everything. That is, except for the food that
we export up from the US. And, considering that 90% of our food comes
from the US, it's a wonder we don't all starve deciding how to
allocated all those pounds and quarts of food.

We're bound to go metric pretty soon. After all, isn't Mexico on the
metric system.

nb

Metric or not, a pound is half a kilo, an ounce is 100 g or 1/1 a kilo. At
least when I was a child. I think now they are getting confused ... Must
be because of the € ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

"Leon" wrote in message
In the times that I use metric and inches I just "round" 25 mm to the
inch,
4" ~ 100mm.
1/2 inch ~ 12.5 mm or 6 1/2 mm
1/4 inch ~ 6.25mm or 6 1/4 mm
1/8 inch ~ 3.125mm or 3 1/8 mm

When you get down to it as far as I'm concerned, it's all what sounds
better. I've got to tell you, 75° F sounds a whole lot warmer than 24°C. The
older I get, the colder it seems to get.

"Han" wrote in message
...
"Leon" wrote in
:

I'll answer honestly. YES!!! I was taught fractions. Ad nauseam. But
it was more esoteric and academic then woodworking practicality. There
were no woodworking classes in first through 4th grade in Holland.
Certainly after that you were supposed to be able to do all the fractions
"in your head". Getting rusty now ...

Well ther was no wood working in 4th grade here either. LOL.. But it was
fractions fractions fractions. I suppose it helps to learn fractions when
every measurement is done in fractions.



But that really is not your question. For me the problem is whether 5/16
is bigger or smaller than 1/4. Or similar problems, and I have to always
back calculate that to identical denominators, and that isn't (anymore)
automagical!!

Is 5/16 bigger than 4/16? Granted I have to think a bit to deal with 64ths
and smaller increments.


Well fractions can be tough to recognize as a specific amount. In school I
studied Mechanical and Archetectural drafting with a scale, no pocket
calculators or computers back then. Fractions became second nature.


snip


Nevertheless, miles, feet, inches come pretty natural to me now, as
do meters, centimeters and nanometers. To interchange them, I need a
calculator calibrated to about 2.54 (cm/inch).

In the times that I use metric and inches I just "round" 25 mm to the
inch, 4" ~ 100mm.
1/2 inch ~ 12.5 mm or 6 1/2 mm
1/4 inch ~ 6.25mm or 6 1/4 mm
1/8 inch ~ 3.125mm or 3 1/8 mm

Obviously I use very similar guestimates.

I do appreciate your discussion, Leon!!!

Thank you Han!

On Sep 8, 9:51*pm, Han wrote:
notbob wrote :

On 2009-09-09, Upscale wrote:

has been invading most everything. That is, except for the food that
we export up from the US. And, considering that 90% of our food comes
from the US, it's a wonder we don't all starve deciding how to
allocated all those pounds and quarts of food.

We're bound to go metric pretty soon. *After all, isn't Mexico on the
metric system. *

nb *

Metric or not, a pound is half a kilo, an ounce is 100 g or 1/1 a kilo. *At
least when I was a child. *I think now they are getting confused ... *Must
be because of the € ...

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Een ons vlees. was 100 gram/ 500 gram 'een pond'.
My grandfather always talked about 'duim' (thumb)..I guess about an
inch.
At our house in The Netherlands, the indoor temp was always in degrees
F.
Everything else was metric.

a 100mm x 100mm x100mm cube of water weighs 1 KG and is one liter. (At
max density 4C)

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Sep 8, 9:08 pm, "Leon" wrote:

It all boils down to time Robatoy. It takes you longer to say metric stuff
than inche stuff. Time is money.

In the time we can say 1/2 inch and measure it. You are still listening to
the guy calling out, gimme Twelve m i l l - i - m e t e r s.
Or drive one mile vs. drive one k i l l - o - m e t e r .

Too many dang syllables in that metric stuff.

LOL...not so!

I drive at 100 K on the highway or 50 K in town, 40 K at a school
zone..
Still got you beat. I drive 65 or 40 in town or 20 in school zone. We
never indicate MPH.


In normal conversation: " I drove a buck-twenty most of the way here."
In normal conversation; " I drove 90 most of the way here.


We never speak of millimeters..we speak of 'little stripes'.
Oh Gaud, the wemen's never indicate fractions of an inch they say 4 little
thingies past the first big one.

On Sep 8, 9:55*pm, "Upscale" wrote:
"Leon" wrote in message
In the times that I use metric and inches I just "round" 25 mm to the
inch,
4" ~ 100mm.
1/2 inch ~ 12.5 mm or 6 1/2 mm
1/4 inch ~ 6.25mm or 6 1/4 mm
1/8 inch ~ 3.125mm or 3 1/8 mm

When you get down to it as far as I'm concerned, it's all what sounds
better. I've got to tell you, 75 F sounds a whole lot warmer than 24 C. The
older I get, the colder it seems to get.

When the Michiganians look at the weather channel and see that it is
70 in Port Huron Michigan and 20 in Sarnia Ontario...a lot of them
stay home.

We like that.

On Sep 8, 10:15*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Sep 8, 9:55*pm, "Upscale" wrote:

"Leon" wrote in message
In the times that I use metric and inches I just "round" 25 mm to the
inch,
4" ~ 100mm.
1/2 inch ~ 12.5 mm or 6 1/2 mm
1/4 inch ~ 6.25mm or 6 1/4 mm
1/8 inch ~ 3.125mm or 3 1/8 mm

When you get down to it as far as I'm concerned, it's all what sounds
better. I've got to tell you, 75 F sounds a whole lot warmer than 24 C. The
older I get, the colder it seems to get.

When the Michiganians look at the weather channel and see that it is
70 in Port Huron Michigan and 20 in Sarnia Ontario...a lot of them
stay home.

We like that.

...and by 'We Like that'..I, of course, mean that we think it is
funny.........*smirk*

On Sep 8, 10:12*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...
On Sep 8, 9:08 pm, "Leon" wrote:



It all boils down to time Robatoy. It takes you longer to say metric stuff
than inche stuff. Time is money.

In the time we can say 1/2 inch and measure it. You are still listening to
the guy calling out, gimme Twelve m i l l - i - m e t e r s.
Or drive one mile vs. drive one k i l l - o - m e t e r .

Too many dang syllables in that metric stuff.

LOL...not so!

I drive at 100 K on the highway or 50 K in town, 40 K at a school
zone..
Still got you beat. * I drive 65 or 40 in town or 20 in school zone. *We
never indicate MPH.

In normal conversation: " I drove a buck-twenty most of the way here."
In normal conversation; *" I drove 90 most of the way here.

We never speak of millimeters..we speak of 'little stripes'.
Oh Gaud, the wemen's never indicate fractions of an inch they say 4 little
thingies past the first big one.

Yup, they're aka 'tic'.

Upscale wrote:.

When the Michiganians look at the weather channel and see that it is
70 in Port Huron Michigan and 20 in Sarnia Ontario...a lot of them
stay home.

"Robatoy" wrote:

We like that.

Yabutts so does their money.

Lew

On Sep 8, 3:58*pm, Chris Friesen wrote:
On 09/08/2009 04:00 PM, Andrew Barss wrote:

Chris Friesen wrote:
: Kind of like keyboard layout...Dvorak is 10-15% faster for a trained
: typist

That's a myth. *And a quite interesting one at that:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/29944.html

It's not only NOT faster than a QWERTY keyboard for a trained typist,
it's arguably slower, and Mr. Dvorak was a bit of a huckster.

I should note up front that I use QWERTY and have never tried Dvorak.

There are arguments against that article. *This post for instance is
quite interesting and seems to bring up several easily-verifiable points:

http://www.dvorak-keyboard.com/dvorak2.html

I got my 10% figure from Donald Norman's book, "The Design of Everyday
Things". *He notes that Dvorak affectionados claim higher improvements
but that he could not substantiate them.

Quite a few people have indicated that Dvorak results in less stress on
their joints.

: Personally I like metric for most things, but living so close to the US
: it's just easier to use US units for construction/woodworking.

Otherwise, you'd find 2440 x 1220mm plywood panels easier and more
intuitive to work with?

No, I'd find 2400x1200 panels easier to work with. *Why stick with 8'
ceilings if we're truly going metric? *But that would require redoing
all the building standards for 400mm or 600mm centers instead of 16" or 24".

Chris

We tried that for a few years in Canada in the early 80s, with stuff
on 400mm centres. Gave it up pretty quickly. Went back to 2440 by 1220
mm plywood, 16" centres and 38X89s.

Luigi

On Sep 8, 10:19*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
Upscale wrote:.

When the Michiganians look at the weather channel and see that it is
70 in Port Huron Michigan and 20 in Sarnia Ontario...a lot of them
stay home.

"Robatoy" wrote:

We like that.

Yabutts so does their money.

Lew

and so do crack, guns and hookers. This ****ing casino is nothing but
an asshole magnet.

On Sep 8, 4:42*pm, FrozenNorth
wrote:
However if the tenon was 0.025 undersize. and the mortise was 0.025
oversize, then we have a problem.

Not really. Plane shavings are your friend. DAMHIKT

Luigi

On Sep 8, 10:22*pm, Robatoy wrote:
On Sep 8, 10:19*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:

Upscale wrote:.

When the Michiganians look at the weather channel and see that it is
70 in Port Huron Michigan and 20 in Sarnia Ontario...a lot of them
stay home.

"Robatoy" wrote:

We like that.

Yabutts so does their money.

Lew

and so do crack, guns and hookers. This ****ing casino is nothing but
an asshole magnet.

I need to add that there is a 2 year difference in minimum drinking
age restriction. Michigan is 21, we are 19 and seem to handle it a lot
better.

On Sep 8, 6:08*pm, "Leon" wrote:
"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I
can quote on them.
Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're
the purpose of them are.
Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is
hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are.
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in
both metric and imperial.
But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an
archaic system?

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg

It all boils down to time Robatoy. *It takes you longer to say metric stuff
than inche stuff. *Time is money.

In the time we can say 1/2 inch and measure it. *You are still listening to
the guy calling out, *gimme Twelve m *i *l *l * - *i *- *m *e *t *e *r *s.
Or drive one mile vs. drive one k * i * l * l *- *o *- * m * e * t * e * r .

Too many dang syllables in that metric stuff.

Sorry Leon, but I can say "three mils" faster than you can say "three
sixteenths. :-)

On Sep 8, 10:32*pm, Luigi Zanasi wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:08*pm, "Leon" wrote:





"Robatoy" wrote in message

...

I now make parts for different people who e-mail/fax me drawings so I
can quote on them.
Some parts are such that I can't tell what they are or what they're
the purpose of them are.
Sometimes I see dimensions as obviously imperial ones, sometime it is
hard to tell, especially when I have NO clue what these parts are.
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what system is used as I work in
both metric and imperial.
But what seems to be the reason for the US hold-out to stay with an
archaic system?

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9974/metricmap.jpg

It all boils down to time Robatoy. *It takes you longer to say metric stuff
than inche stuff. *Time is money.

In the time we can say 1/2 inch and measure it. *You are still listening to
the guy calling out, *gimme Twelve m *i *l *l * - *i *- *m *e *t *e *r *s.
Or drive one mile vs. drive one k * i * l * l *- *o *- * m * e * t * e * r .

Too many dang syllables in that metric stuff.

Sorry Leon, but I can say "three mils" faster than you can say "three
sixteenths. :-)

Yabbut.. is a 'mil' a millimeter?

On 2009-09-09, Lew Hodgett wrote:

So how do they get in?

Well, they don't actually stop them, they just "frown" a lot..

nb