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The news is full of stories concerning our importation of children's
toys painted with lead paint. (Not to mention other gaffs such as tooth paste, tires et al). Since our NG is well aware of all the wood working tools which are also imported from China, does any one see a potential hazard to the users, I realize that adults use these tools and aren't likely to ingest the coatings. Just though some in the group might have a thought on the matter. |
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On Aug 15, 9:33 am, GROVER wrote:
The news is full of stories concerning our importation of children's toys painted with lead paint. (Not to mention other gaffs such as tooth paste, tires et al). Since our NG is well aware of all the wood working tools which are also imported from China, does any one see a potential hazard to the users, I realize that adults use these tools and aren't likely to ingest the coatings. Just though some in the group might have a thought on the matter. Not just China. My LIE-NIELSEN low angle block plane came with a warning on lead in the product. I know brass many times has lead in it. I was surprised their bronze had it as well? |
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On Aug 15, 10:33 am, GROVER wrote:
The news is full of stories concerning our importation of children's toys painted with lead paint. (Not to mention other gaffs such as tooth paste, tires et al). Since our NG is well aware of all the wood working tools which are also imported from China, does any one see a potential hazard to the users, I realize that adults use these tools and aren't likely to ingest the coatings. Just though some in the group might have a thought on the matter. I don't see it as a problem with regard to woodworking tools. Lead paint has a slightly sweet taste which appeals to children. That's why kids chewed pencils back in the day. While toys might find their way to little mouths, it's not likely a jointer will. And if a kid starts chewing on a cabinet saw, then the negligent party isn't the manufacturer.... |
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On Aug 15, 9:33 am, GROVER wrote:
The news is full of stories concerning our importation of children's toys painted with lead paint. (Not to mention other gaffs such as tooth paste, tires et al). Since our NG is well aware of all the wood working tools which are also imported from China, does any one see a potential hazard to the users, I realize that adults use these tools and aren't likely to ingest the coatings. Just though some in the group might have a thought on the matter. You're kidding, Right?? I already can't sleep at night because I'm so worried about global warming. Unless the volcano under Yellowstone erupts, which would lead to a global winter, which would lead to global starvation. Unless we get hit by an asteroid, which would at least be quick and painless. You know the North Koreans will surely destroy the world if they ever get nuclear capability, unless the Arabs beat them to it. When I was a kid, I worried because the Gulf of Mexico was filling up at an alarming rate, but now I'm worried because the coastline is receding, and this is supposed to be a big hurricane year, and we haven't even recovered from Katrina yet. I'm afraid to go anywhere because all the bridges in the entire world are on the verge of collapse. They just lost another one in China yesterday. And I'm afraid to stay home because the air in my Katrina Trailer is poisoned and FEMA knew about it all along, but sent them on anyway. And I can't go outside because I might get bit by a mosquito and catch West Nile disease. Six people in my state have died already this year. I was already afraid to go out to my shop because of the hazzards of breathing wood dust. But I can't turn on my dust collector because of static electricity explosions. Then there's table saw kickbacks or exploding PVC air lines to worry about. I'm afraid to eat because the fruits and vegetables are all contaminated with pesticides or they have been genetically altered so my kids might have three heads. And the meat is suspect because of mad cow disease or the stuff they feed the animals. The water isn't safe to drink either. Just read the papers. Now you want me to worry because some toys made in China were found to have lead in their paint and some chisels are made in China and they have paint on them too. I'm sorry, but I just don't have the energy to worry about anything else right now. In fact, I'm so worried already it will take three cigarettes and a six pack to calm me down. DonkeyHody " We should be careful to get out of an experience only the wisdom that is in it - and stop there; lest we be like the cat that sits down on a hot stove-lid. She will never sit down on a hot stove-lid again---and that is well; but also she will never sit down on a cold one anymore." - Mark Twain |
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Now you want me to worry because some toys made in China were found to
have lead in their paint and some chisels are made in China and they have paint on them too. I'm sorry, but I just don't have the energy to worry about anything else right now. In fact, I'm so worried already it will take three cigarettes and a six pack to calm me down. Oh, don't worry about it - just lick the paint on some of your power tools. That always calms me down. Mmmm... Lead.... Andy |
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"DonkeyHody" wrote: In fact, I'm so worried already it will take three cigarettes and a six pack to calm me down. Touche. Lew |
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I already can't sleep at night because I'm so worried about global warming. Unless the volcano under Yellowstone erupts, which would lead to a global winter, which would lead to global starvation. Unless we get hit by an asteroid, which would at least be quick and painless. You know the North Koreans will surely destroy the world if they ever get nuclear capability, unless the Arabs beat them to it. You missed the big one. A volcano off the coast of Europe is about to collapse and slide into the ocean. It is put a 100' tsunami across the entire US East coast. (some think it may collapse in several stages, none of which will give a killer tsunami; we can only wait and see.) Oh, and pneumonic AIDS. |
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"DonkeyHody" wrote in message And I'm afraid to stay home because the air in my Katrina Trailer is poisoned and FEMA knew about it all along, but sent them on anyway. Whine, whine, whine. In my area we have Radon in the basement. The dog sleeps in the basement and glows in the dark now and the light keeps me awake at night. |
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On Aug 15, 12:58 pm, Jeff wrote:
On Aug 15, 10:33 am, GROVER wrote: The news is full of stories concerning our importation of children's toys painted with lead paint. (Not to mention other gaffs such as tooth paste, tires et al). Since our NG is well aware of all the wood working tools which are also imported from China, does any one see a potential hazard to the users, I realize that adults use these tools and aren't likely to ingest the coatings. Just though some in the group might have a thought on the matter. I don't see it as a problem with regard to woodworking tools. Lead paint has a slightly sweet taste which appeals to children. That's why kids chewed pencils back in the day. While toys might find their way to little mouths, it's not likely a jointer will. And if a kid starts chewing on a cabinet saw, then the negligent party isn't the manufacturer.... That's the first I've heard of the sweet taste. We were always told that kids chew on ANYTHING at certain ages, which could mean baseboard or various other bits of molding, toys or whatever. The fact is, too, that the kids have brains in the process of formation, and are far more susceptible to lead poisoning than are adults, so the toy information is particularly distressing. We've been treated to some guy claiming that the general reaction to China's **** poor safety regulation, at all ends, is racist. I've read his blather in three different places now. There seems to be a card to flip that is supposed to allow any group to do anything to the detriment of others without being forced to change. If it isn't racism, it's ageism, or...could it all be infantilism because of earlier lead poisoning? Any woodworker chewing on his drill press or planer, though, has much worse problems than a tiny taste of lead might cause. |
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On Aug 15, 1:27 pm, "Toller" wrote:
I already can't sleep at night because I'm so worried about global warming. Unless the volcano under Yellowstone erupts, which would lead to a global winter, which would lead to global starvation. Unless we get hit by an asteroid, which would at least be quick and painless. You know the North Koreans will surely destroy the world if they ever get nuclear capability, unless the Arabs beat them to it. You missed the big one. A volcano off the coast of Europe is about to collapse and slide into the ocean. It is put a 100' tsunami across the entire US East coast. (some think it may collapse in several stages, none of which will give a killer tsunami; we can only wait and see.) Oh, and pneumonic AIDS. I left out a LOT of them. Aids, herpes, bird flu, smallpox, anthrax, formaldehyde in homes, rollovers in SUV's, razor blades in apples, needles in coin returns, needles in theater seats, snakes in toilets, fire ants, killer bees . . . and the list goes on and on. I just didn't want you to think I was paranoid or anything. DonkeyHody "Cowards die many times before their deaths." - Shakespeare |
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:27:58 -0000, Charlie Self
wrote: That's the first I've heard of the sweet taste. First artifical sweetener was lead acetate, which the Romans made by boiling grape juice up in thick lead pans. Needed to be thick, they used to dissolve holes in them.... |
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The news is full of stories concerning our importation of children's toys painted with lead paint.
Don't forget --- Albert Einstein grew up in a house with lead based paint. |
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Heck I have bigger things to worry about. The wood dust giving me cancer,
the gas company screwing up and I blow up with my house at 3AM (2 houses in our area in the last year have done that after NYSEG replaced the gas lines into the houses), old age creeping in, unexplained hair loss, paying for my kids college, telling the wife I need a new tool, if I tightened the lugs nuts on my wife's car after doing brake work all day Sunday, and why Norm has to use so many brads. I am so worked up now, I have to go join DonkeyHody with a pack of smokes and 12 pack of beer. Allen "GROVER" wrote in message ups.com... The news is full of stories concerning our importation of children's toys painted with lead paint. (Not to mention other gaffs such as tooth paste, tires et al). Since our NG is well aware of all the wood working tools which are also imported from China, does any one see a potential hazard to the users, I realize that adults use these tools and aren't likely to ingest the coatings. Just though some in the group might have a thought on the matter. |
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GEEZ after all these posts I'm REALLY depressed! I consider myself
semi retired and all I had been worried about was sticking my hand in the unisaw (can't afford a SawStop), illegal aliens in TX, and those honey do lists! Only one more semester tuition for my youngest and I'll BE RICH!! On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:28:05 -0400, "Allen Roy" wrote: Heck I have bigger things to worry about. The wood dust giving me cancer, the gas company screwing up and I blow up with my house at 3AM (2 houses in our area in the last year have done that after NYSEG replaced the gas lines into the houses), old age creeping in, unexplained hair loss, paying for my kids college, telling the wife I need a new tool, if I tightened the lugs nuts on my wife's car after doing brake work all day Sunday, and why Norm has to use so many brads. I am so worked up now, I have to go join DonkeyHody with a pack of smokes and 12 pack of beer. Allen "GROVER" wrote in message oups.com... The news is full of stories concerning our importation of children's toys painted with lead paint. (Not to mention other gaffs such as tooth paste, tires et al). Since our NG is well aware of all the wood working tools which are also imported from China, does any one see a potential hazard to the users, I realize that adults use these tools and aren't likely to ingest the coatings. Just though some in the group might have a thought on the matter. |
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DonkeyHody wrote in
ups.com: *snip: Many things wrong with the world.* Now you want me to worry because some toys made in China were found to have lead in their paint and some chisels are made in China and they have paint on them too. I'm sorry, but I just don't have the energy to worry about anything else right now. In fact, I'm so worried already it will take three cigarettes and a six pack to calm me down. DonkeyHody In situations like those cited above, I'm SO very happy that God gave me an immune system, the wisdom to avoid really bad situations, and if something does go terribly wrong, I know he'll be there to greet me in Heaven. :-) Puckdropper -- Wise is the man who attempts to answer his question before asking it. To email me directly, send a message to puckdropper (at) fastmail.fm |
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I don't see it as a problem with regard to woodworking tools. Lead paint has a slightly sweet taste which appeals to children. That's why kids chewed pencils back in the day. While toys might find their way to little mouths, it's not likely a jointer will. And if a kid starts chewing on a cabinet saw, then the negligent party isn't the manufacturer.... Not to be a stickler, but pencils are made with graphite - not lead. Where the term 'lead' came from is a real question. And I never found graphite to be sweet. Pete |
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"Charlie Self" wrote in message ups.com... We've been treated to some guy claiming that the general reaction to China's **** poor safety regulation, at all ends, is racist. I've read his blather in three different places now. There seems to be a card to flip that is supposed to allow any group to do anything to the detriment of others without being forced to change. If it isn't racism, it's ageism, or...could it all be infantilism because of earlier lead poisoning? It seems today that when all else fails the problem can be cured by calling somebody a racist Glen |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message news:LaIwi.1620$Df.199@trndny01... "DonkeyHody" wrote in message And I'm afraid to stay home because the air in my Katrina Trailer is poisoned and FEMA knew about it all along, but sent them on anyway. Whine, whine, whine. In my area we have Radon in the basement. The dog sleeps in the basement and glows in the dark now and the light keeps me awake at night. If you neuter your dog, you will be able to play handball in the dark. Glen |
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