I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big turning
blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The two choices seem to be the 19" Grizzly and the 18" Jet. Any reason to
pay a few hundred more for the Jet?
(I am planning on the old Grizzly 19" because it is cheaper than the new
ones. The main differance seems to be the cast iron trunnions, but those
can't be worth $200, can they?)
I know the Rikon is well regarded, but they don't seem to have a 3hp.

There are better saws out there for bigger bucks, but if I use it 50 hours a
year that will be a lot; so industrial quality would not be a good
investment.

"Leuf" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:50:13 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big
turning
blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The two choices seem to be the 19" Grizzly and the 18" Jet. Any reason to
pay a few hundred more for the Jet?
(I am planning on the old Grizzly 19" because it is cheaper than the new
ones. The main differance seems to be the cast iron trunnions, but those
can't be worth $200, can they?)
I know the Rikon is well regarded, but they don't seem to have a 3hp.

There are better saws out there for bigger bucks, but if I use it 50 hours
a
year that will be a lot; so industrial quality would not be a good
investment.

Where'd you get stuck on the idea of needing 3 hp? The right blade
and setup are a lot more important on a BS than the hp of the motor.
I think the bigger wheels need more power so that's why the hp goes up
with the size of the saw. I just find it strange that you're starting
with "3 hp" when most people start with the capacity.

I took a turning course at a local highschool. They have a 5hp Powermatic.
As you might expect, the blade is so battered that it barely has teeth; yet
it goes through 20/4 oak easier than my 1hp Delta with a brand new good
blade. The bigger wheels much contribute an awful lot of moment to get
through any sticking points.

If it were available, I would actually prefer a 14" with a 3hp motor; as
long as it cut 12". I was tempted by the European 16" saws, but they are
just too expensive.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:50:13 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big turning
blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The two choices seem to be the 19" Grizzly and the 18" Jet. Any reason to
pay a few hundred more for the Jet?
(I am planning on the old Grizzly 19" because it is cheaper than the new
ones. The main differance seems to be the cast iron trunnions, but those
can't be worth $200, can they?)
I know the Rikon is well regarded, but they don't seem to have a 3hp.

There are better saws out there for bigger bucks, but if I use it 50 hours a
year that will be a lot; so industrial quality would not be a good
investment.

Where'd you get stuck on the idea of needing 3 hp? The right blade
and setup are a lot more important on a BS than the hp of the motor.
I think the bigger wheels need more power so that's why the hp goes up
with the size of the saw. I just find it strange that you're starting
with "3 hp" when most people start with the capacity.


-Leuf

Toller wrote:
"Leuf" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:50:13 GMT, "Toller"
wrote:

I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting
big turning
blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The two choices seem to be the 19" Grizzly and the 18" Jet. Any
reason to pay a few hundred more for the Jet?
(I am planning on the old Grizzly 19" because it is cheaper than
the new ones. The main differance seems to be the cast iron
trunnions, but those can't be worth $200, can they?)
I know the Rikon is well regarded, but they don't seem to have a
3hp.

There are better saws out there for bigger bucks, but if I use it
50 hours a
year that will be a lot; so industrial quality would not be a good
investment.

Where'd you get stuck on the idea of needing 3 hp? The right blade
and setup are a lot more important on a BS than the hp of the
motor. I think the bigger wheels need more power so that's why the
hp goes up with the size of the saw. I just find it strange that
you're starting with "3 hp" when most people start with the
capacity.

I took a turning course at a local highschool. They have a 5hp
Powermatic. As you might expect, the blade is so battered that it
barely has teeth; yet it goes through 20/4 oak easier than my 1hp
Delta with a brand new good blade.

"brand new good" doesn't necessarily mean proper. And there are good
blades and *GOOD* blades.
_____________

The bigger wheels much
contribute an awful lot of moment to get through any sticking
points.

They would/could increase blade speed.
________________

If it were available, I would actually prefer a 14" with a 3hp
motor; as long as it cut 12".

No reason that you couldn't have replaced the 1hp with a 3hp.

What - exactly - was your problem? And blade? Five inch oak really
shouldn't be a problem.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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"Toller" wrote in message
...
I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big turning
blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The two choices seem to be the 19" Grizzly and the 18" Jet. Any reason to
pay a few hundred more for the Jet?
(I am planning on the old Grizzly 19" because it is cheaper than the new
ones. The main differance seems to be the cast iron trunnions, but those
can't be worth $200, can they?)
I know the Rikon is well regarded, but they don't seem to have a 3hp.

There are better saws out there for bigger bucks, but if I use it 50 hours
a year that will be a lot; so industrial quality would not be a good
investment.
I know, I know, here I go bashing the Rikon again. Because this is not
your first band saw purchase and because you are indeed looking for more
power I would advise against the Rikon. Actually the Rikon is a lot of saw
for the money however IMHO it is a very nice "entry level" saw. If you
will be cutting turning blanks many of them will probably be green. The
roller bearing guides that come on the Rikon are IMHO not the best choice
for guides. They tend to load up with wet saw dust and you get vibration
and banging.
This is not a unique problem with Rikon, it is a problem IMHO with any saw
that has roller bearings. Rikon just happens to only come with roller guide
bearings.

As far as what to look for, I would pay more attention to the mass of the
upper and lower wheels. The more mass the more smooth the saw will operate
in heavier cutting. You might want to go to the Laguna site and take a
look at those saws. I do not know what your price range is but the Laguna
will probably be your last BS and probably has a 99.9% chance of satisfying
all your needs with out compromise. The Laguna BS's come with 10 point
ceramic guides that tend to be self cleaning and don't vibrate.

I went through this in the Winter and Spring of last year. I had an old
Craftsman, bought the 18" Rikon, kept it for about 10 days and returned it.
A couple months later I bought a Laguna.

Toller

I have an Oneida dust collection system installed in my shop and an
older 16" Grizzly band saw. You are welcome to stop by and check them
out, I am located in Brighton.




Toller wrote:
I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big turning
blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

"Leon" wrote in message
t...

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big
turning blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The two choices seem to be the 19" Grizzly and the 18" Jet. Any reason
to pay a few hundred more for the Jet?
(I am planning on the old Grizzly 19" because it is cheaper than the new
ones. The main differance seems to be the cast iron trunnions, but those
can't be worth $200, can they?)
I know the Rikon is well regarded, but they don't seem to have a 3hp.

There are better saws out there for bigger bucks, but if I use it 50
hours a year that will be a lot; so industrial quality would not be a
good investment.
I know, I know, here I go bashing the Rikon again. Because this is not
your first band saw purchase and because you are indeed looking for more
power I would advise against the Rikon. Actually the Rikon is a lot of
saw for the money however IMHO it is a very nice "entry level" saw. If
you will be cutting turning blanks many of them will probably be green.
The roller bearing guides that come on the Rikon are IMHO not the best
choice for guides. They tend to load up with wet saw dust and you get
vibration and banging.
This is not a unique problem with Rikon, it is a problem IMHO with any saw
that has roller bearings. Rikon just happens to only come with roller
guide bearings.

As far as what to look for, I would pay more attention to the mass of the
upper and lower wheels. The more mass the more smooth the saw will
operate in heavier cutting. You might want to go to the Laguna site and
take a look at those saws. I do not know what your price range is but the
Laguna will probably be your last BS and probably has a 99.9% chance of
satisfying all your needs with out compromise. The Laguna BS's come with
10 point ceramic guides that tend to be self cleaning and don't vibrate.

I went through this in the Winter and Spring of last year. I had an old
Craftsman, bought the 18" Rikon, kept it for about 10 days and returned
it. A couple months later I bought a Laguna.
Which Laguna? The E16 isn't all that expensive, but it probably isn't
really a Laguna either... Or maybe it is.

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big turning
blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The Grizzly is $1100. I don't know what the Jet is because the two lowest
price sellers don't seem to know what the freight charge is. (I am guessing
$1,600) The Laguna LT16 is $1800. No matter how good it is, it can't be
worth 60% more than the Grizzly.

"Toller" wrote in
:
snip

Which Laguna? The E16 isn't all that expensive, but it probably isn't
really a Laguna either... Or maybe it is.


Laguna is a reseller/distributor of excellent machines, built by others,
elsewhere. 'Really a Laguna' is an interesting concept.

They seem worth their price, according to most who own/use them.

Patriarch

Leon wrote:

If*you
will be cutting turning blanks many of them will probably be green.**The
roller bearing guides that come on the Rikon are IMHO not the best choice
for guides.**They*tend*to*load*up*with*wet*saw*dust*an d*you*get*vibration
and banging.

This is not a unique problem with Rikon, it is a problem IMHO with any saw
that has roller bearings.**Rikon*just*happens*to*only*come*with*ro ller*guide
bearings.


I think I made this comment before, but I have the Rikon and indeed the guides
did load up. After cutting a dozen or two green logs I stopped, cleaned the
guides and the blade, and wiped the blade with some version of TopCote - not
that brand but something similar. I then cut another 30 or 40 blanks with no
more problems.

I can't swear that the technique will work for everyone, but based on my
experience it's certainly worth a try. Not just on the Rikon, but on any
roller guide bandsaw.


--
It's turtles, all the way down

Leuf wrote:

I know the Rikon is well regarded, but they don't seem to have a 3hp.

But it does have 2 speeds an the lower speed has a lot of torque.
--
It's turtles, all the way down

"Toller" wrote in message
...

"Leon" wrote in message
t...

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big
turning blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The two choices seem to be the 19" Grizzly and the 18" Jet. Any reason
to pay a few hundred more for the Jet?
(I am planning on the old Grizzly 19" because it is cheaper than the new
ones. The main differance seems to be the cast iron trunnions, but
those can't be worth $200, can they?)
I know the Rikon is well regarded, but they don't seem to have a 3hp.

There are better saws out there for bigger bucks, but if I use it 50
hours a year that will be a lot; so industrial quality would not be a
good investment.
I know, I know, here I go bashing the Rikon again. Because this is not
your first band saw purchase and because you are indeed looking for more
power I would advise against the Rikon. Actually the Rikon is a lot of
saw for the money however IMHO it is a very nice "entry level" saw. If
you will be cutting turning blanks many of them will probably be green.
The roller bearing guides that come on the Rikon are IMHO not the best
choice for guides. They tend to load up with wet saw dust and you get
vibration and banging.
This is not a unique problem with Rikon, it is a problem IMHO with any
saw that has roller bearings. Rikon just happens to only come with
roller guide bearings.

As far as what to look for, I would pay more attention to the mass of the
upper and lower wheels. The more mass the more smooth the saw will
operate in heavier cutting. You might want to go to the Laguna site and
take a look at those saws. I do not know what your price range is but
the Laguna will probably be your last BS and probably has a 99.9% chance
of satisfying all your needs with out compromise. The Laguna BS's come
with 10 point ceramic guides that tend to be self cleaning and don't
vibrate.

I went through this in the Winter and Spring of last year. I had an old
Craftsman, bought the 18" Rikon, kept it for about 10 days and returned
it. A couple months later I bought a Laguna.
Which Laguna? The E16 isn't all that expensive, but it probably isn't
really a Laguna either... Or maybe it is.

The HD series are built in Italy, The lighter weight series are built in
Bulgaria. I bought the LT16HD. I would think that either unit would be
better than the Griz of Jet.

"Patriarch" wrote in message
. 136...
"Toller" wrote in
:
snip

Which Laguna? The E16 isn't all that expensive, but it probably isn't
really a Laguna either... Or maybe it is.


Laguna is a reseller/distributor of excellent machines, built by others,
elsewhere. 'Really a Laguna' is an interesting concept.

They seem worth their price, according to most who own/use them.

Patriarch

This is true however they do modifications once they hit the US. For
instance they add the Baldor motors and IIRC add the unique and patented 10
point ceramic guide system.

"Toller" wrote in message
...

"Toller" wrote in message
...
I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big
turning blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

The Grizzly is $1100. I don't know what the Jet is because the two lowest
price sellers don't seem to know what the freight charge is. (I am
guessing $1,600) The Laguna LT16 is $1800. No matter how good it is, it
can't be worth 60% more than the Grizzly.


;~) Don't use a Laguna if you buy the Griz.

"Toller" wrote in message
No matter how good it is, it can't be worth 60% more than the Grizzly.

You tried them both?

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Toller" wrote in message
No matter how good it is, it can't be worth 60% more than the Grizzly.

You tried them both?

If I had access to either I wouldn't be asking advice here.
But Grizzly would have to be real crap to be worth that much less than
Laguna, and people seem happy with Grizzly in general, so it probably isn't
crap.

If I had access to either I wouldn't be asking advice here.
But Grizzly would have to be real crap to be worth that much less than
Laguna, and people seem happy with Grizzly in general, so it probably
isn't crap.

Grizzly used to have a service where you could ask them for someone in
your area with the exact model you were contemplating, and they would hook
you up so you could try one out. You might want to call and see if they
still do that.

steve

"Toller" wrote in message
...

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Toller" wrote in message
No matter how good it is, it can't be worth 60% more than the Grizzly.

You tried them both?

If I had access to either I wouldn't be asking advice here.
But Grizzly would have to be real crap to be worth that much less than
Laguna, and people seem happy with Grizzly in general, so it probably
isn't crap.

I'm sure it is not "crap", but you said the Laguna can't be worth 60% more.
How did you arrive at that conclusion?

"Toller" wrote in message
...



If I had access to either I wouldn't be asking advice here.
But Grizzly would have to be real crap to be worth that much less than
Laguna, and people seem happy with Grizzly in general, so it probably
isn't crap.


FIY, I strongly suspect also that the Griz in not crap. It all boils down
to what you are comfortable with in spending and willing to compromise with.
I had the $1,000 Rikon that got glowing reviews, "in it's class". What I
was looking for was a trouble free set up, perfect tracking, plenty of power
for resawing, and smooth operation. In my case I paid about 150% more than
the Rikon and for me I got what I wanted. IMHO well worth the extra money.
My purchase also included the mobility kit, shipping, Resaw King blade and 3
other blades. Discounting those items would have dropped the price more
then $500. My Laguna is so much more convenient to use that I use it for
more than I ever had used my previous BS. I don't think twice about
rolling it out and making a small cut rather than using the jig saw like I
used to do.

If you are in a hurry, I'd say go with the Griz, that is "probably" a safe
and economical choice.
If you want a lot of band saw that requires little to no prep and tweaking
before each use, I would say to look into Laguna and MiniMax. Both of those
companies have demo DVD's that point out advantages and in general what to
look for when shopping for a new BS.
I can say that if you step up to the Laguna or MiniMax you will not be
disappointed and may walk away with a silly grin on your face every time you
use it.
IMHO if you are going to use the saw occasionally any brand will probably be
good. If you are going to be using the saw regularly I'd say set your
sights a bit higher.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
t...

"Toller" wrote in message
...

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Toller" wrote in message
No matter how good it is, it can't be worth 60% more than the Grizzly.

You tried them both?

If I had access to either I wouldn't be asking advice here.
But Grizzly would have to be real crap to be worth that much less than
Laguna, and people seem happy with Grizzly in general, so it probably
isn't crap.

I'm sure it is not "crap", but you said the Laguna can't be worth 60%
more. How did you arrive at that conclusion?
Given that the Grizzly is a functional saw, with no significant defects, and
will give years of service; and sells for $1,100.
What could the Laguna have that the Grizzly does not?
The Laguna is lighter, so it is probably not radically more robust
construction.
While the Laguna has an American motor, I have never heard a complaint about
Grizzly motors, so that is probably not a big difference.
A search on 'laguna bandsaw' has many users complaining of customer service
and defects on delivery. Looking though 'grizzly bandsaw' doesn't show
such things, so that probably doesn't account for the price difference.
Laguna skips the miter gauge and includes their light duty fence; so those
are not advantages.
Maybe the Laguna blade guides are greatly superior (though I have never
actually heard that anywhere) but they sell for $265, so they can't account
for the $700 price difference, even if they are that good.
So, how does the Laguna justify the price difference? Because it is
Bulgarian rather than Taiwanese? That must be it. The Bulgarians are
widely know for their fine bandsaws.

"Toller" wrote in message
...
Given that the Grizzly is a functional saw, with no significant defects,
and will give years of service; and sells for $1,100.
What could the Laguna have that the Grizzly does not?
The Laguna is lighter, so it is probably not radically more robust
construction.
While the Laguna has an American motor, I have never heard a complaint
about Grizzly motors, so that is probably not a big difference.
A search on 'laguna bandsaw' has many users complaining of customer
service and defects on delivery. Looking though 'grizzly bandsaw'
doesn't show such things, so that probably doesn't account for the price
difference.
Laguna skips the miter gauge and includes their light duty fence; so those
are not advantages.
Maybe the Laguna blade guides are greatly superior (though I have never
actually heard that anywhere) but they sell for $265, so they can't
account for the $700 price difference, even if they are that good.
So, how does the Laguna justify the price difference? Because it is
Bulgarian rather than Taiwanese? That must be it. The Bulgarians are
widely know for their fine bandsaws.


More often than not numbers on specifications are what the manufacturers
want you to see. If you do a good search on Grizzly also you will probably
find complaints about how their products arrive. You see what you want to
see to justify your purchase.
I will say that I too read the complaints about Laguna and personally have
not had anything but a good relationship with them.

In many instances a Yugo performs just as well as a Lexus.

I am quite sure that you will be reporting back here that you are very happy
with your Grizzly purchase. It's all in what you are looking for in a BS.

"Leon" wrote in message
.. .

"Toller" wrote in message
...
Given that the Grizzly is a functional saw, with no significant defects,
and will give years of service; and sells for $1,100.
What could the Laguna have that the Grizzly does not?
The Laguna is lighter, so it is probably not radically more robust
construction.
While the Laguna has an American motor, I have never heard a complaint
about Grizzly motors, so that is probably not a big difference.
A search on 'laguna bandsaw' has many users complaining of customer
service and defects on delivery. Looking though 'grizzly bandsaw'
doesn't show such things, so that probably doesn't account for the price
difference.
Laguna skips the miter gauge and includes their light duty fence; so
those are not advantages.
Maybe the Laguna blade guides are greatly superior (though I have never
actually heard that anywhere) but they sell for $265, so they can't
account for the $700 price difference, even if they are that good.
So, how does the Laguna justify the price difference? Because it is
Bulgarian rather than Taiwanese? That must be it. The Bulgarians are
widely know for their fine bandsaws.


More often than not numbers on specifications are what the manufacturers
want you to see. If you do a good search on Grizzly also you will
probably find complaints about how their products arrive. You see what
you want to see to justify your purchase.
I will say that I too read the complaints about Laguna and personally have
not had anything but a good relationship with them.

In many instances a Yugo performs just as well as a Lexus.

I am not sure I would go that far; the Yugo was pretty bad.
But I am very happy with my two Toyotas, and didn't even consider the Lexus.

I am quite sure that you will be reporting back here that you are very
happy with your Grizzly purchase. It's all in what you are looking for in
a BS.
So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now how
to deal with a 460 pound crate.

"Duane" wrote in message
...
Toller

I have an Oneida dust collection system installed in my shop and an older
16" Grizzly band saw. You are welcome to stop by and check them out, I am
located in Brighton.

Which state/country?

-- Mark

More often than not numbers on specifications are what the manufacturers
want you to see. If you do a good search on Grizzly also you will
probably find complaints about how their products arrive.

Aye, I had problems with my Grizzly contractor saw, but their customer
service is the reason my shop keeps getting more and more Griz-Green. ;-)
I couldn't get one of the stamped steel wings to align. It was more curved
than my reading glasses. But a single phone call to Grizzly had cast iron
wings coming my way, and they split the shipping of the new/old wings. I
couldn't be happier. "Life Happens" but the Grizzly tech folks help me keep
making sawdust. ;-)

-- Mark

I appreciate the offer, but have pretty decided on the Grizzly; I am just
trying to work up the nerve to actually order it. Getting the beast into my
basement is intimidating.

Wednesday I am driving to Syracuse to pick up my new Oneida "Portable" and
"Dust Deputy".

If you know anyone who needs a DC, my old one is on Craig's list.

I have an Oneida dust collection system installed in my shop and an older
16" Grizzly band saw. You are welcome to stop by and check them out, I am
located in Brighton.




Toller wrote:
I just sold my 14" Delta because it really wasn't up to cutting big
turning blocks. So now I am under the gun to order its 3hp replacement.

"Toller" wrote in message
...

So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now how
to deal with a 460 pound crate.

If you have the freight forwarder offload it from the truck using their
electric lift expect to get a serious balance due bill from them. I got
clipped for 0.50+/lb. for a load of MDF cabinet doors I ordered for a job.
Smoked my biscuits.
--
NuWave Dave in Houston

"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
...

"Toller" wrote in message
...

So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now
how to deal with a 460 pound crate.

If you have the freight forwarder offload it from the truck using their
electric lift expect to get a serious balance due bill from them. I got
clipped for 0.50+/lb. for a load of MDF cabinet doors I ordered for a job.
Smoked my biscuits.
--
I checked with Grizzly about that. They charge an extra $39. Not pleasant,
but better than the alternatives.
Once I have it on the ground, I can strip off the crate, table and motor,
and get the weight down to 273 pounds. Still heavy, but carryable.

"Toller" wrote in message
...

More often than not numbers on specifications are what the manufacturers
want you to see. If you do a good search on Grizzly also you will
probably find complaints about how their products arrive. You see what
you want to see to justify your purchase.
I will say that I too read the complaints about Laguna and personally
have not had anything but a good relationship with them.

In many instances a Yugo performs just as well as a Lexus.

I am not sure I would go that far; the Yugo was pretty bad.
But I am very happy with my two Toyotas, and didn't even consider the
Lexus.

I am quite sure that you will be reporting back here that you are very
happy with your Grizzly purchase. It's all in what you are looking for
in a BS.
So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now how
to deal with a 460 pound crate.


LOL. Yeah those things are heavy. You might consider uncrating and sliding
it down on its spine on top of cardboard if going into a cellar.

"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
...

"Toller" wrote in message
...

So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now
how to deal with a 460 pound crate.

If you have the freight forwarder offload it from the truck using their
electric lift expect to get a serious balance due bill from them. I got
clipped for 0.50+/lb. for a load of MDF cabinet doors I ordered for a job.
Smoked my biscuits.
--
NuWave Dave in Houston
..3

That all depends on the seller. My Laguna was off loaded from a lift gate
and pallet jacked into my garage, no extra charge. The guy was happy to do
it.

How do you like the Oneida portable?


"Toller" wrote in message
...

"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
...

"Toller" wrote in message
...

So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now
how to deal with a 460 pound crate.

If you have the freight forwarder offload it from the truck using
their electric lift expect to get a serious balance due bill from them.
I got clipped for 0.50+/lb. for a load of MDF cabinet doors I ordered for
a job.
Smoked my biscuits.
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I checked with Grizzly about that. They charge an extra $39. Not
pleasant, but better than the alternatives.
Once I have it on the ground, I can strip off the crate, table and motor,
and get the weight down to 273 pounds. Still heavy, but carryable.

"TH" wrote in message
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How do you like the Oneida portable?


I am picking it up Wednesday, along with the Dust Deputy.

On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:06:23 GMT, "Toller" wrote:


"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
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"Toller" wrote in message
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So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now
how to deal with a 460 pound crate.

If you have the freight forwarder offload it from the truck using their
electric lift expect to get a serious balance due bill from them. I got
clipped for 0.50+/lb. for a load of MDF cabinet doors I ordered for a job.
Smoked my biscuits.
--
I checked with Grizzly about that. They charge an extra $39. Not pleasant,
but better than the alternatives.
Once I have it on the ground, I can strip off the crate, table and motor,
and get the weight down to 273 pounds. Still heavy, but carryable.

Chances are, "some assembly" is required, and it's already in pieces...
My guess is that the stand, table and motor are not attached to the BS..


mac

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"mac davis" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:06:23 GMT, "Toller" wrote:


"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
. ..

"Toller" wrote in message
...

So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now
how to deal with a 460 pound crate.

If you have the freight forwarder offload it from the truck using
their
electric lift expect to get a serious balance due bill from them. I got
clipped for 0.50+/lb. for a load of MDF cabinet doors I ordered for a
job.
Smoked my biscuits.
--
I checked with Grizzly about that. They charge an extra $39. Not
pleasant,
but better than the alternatives.
Once I have it on the ground, I can strip off the crate, table and motor,
and get the weight down to 273 pounds. Still heavy, but carryable.

Chances are, "some assembly" is required, and it's already in pieces...
My guess is that the stand, table and motor are not attached to the BS..

That would save some work; but I don't think the driver would let me uncrate
it in his truck.

I am interested, let me know how you like it.

Take the 9s out



"Toller" wrote in message
...

"TH" wrote in message
link.net...
How do you like the Oneida portable?


I am picking it up Wednesday, along with the Dust Deputy.

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:28:28 GMT, "Toller"
wrote:


"mac davis" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:06:23 GMT, "Toller" wrote:


"Dave in Houston" wrote in message
.. .

"Toller" wrote in message
...

So yes, I expect to be happy with the Grizzly. I am just puzzling now
how to deal with a 460 pound crate.

If you have the freight forwarder offload it from the truck using
their
electric lift expect to get a serious balance due bill from them. I got
clipped for 0.50+/lb. for a load of MDF cabinet doors I ordered for a
job.
Smoked my biscuits.
--
I checked with Grizzly about that. They charge an extra $39. Not
pleasant,
but better than the alternatives.
Once I have it on the ground, I can strip off the crate, table and motor,
and get the weight down to 273 pounds. Still heavy, but carryable.

Chances are, "some assembly" is required, and it's already in pieces...
My guess is that the stand, table and motor are not attached to the BS..

That would save some work; but I don't think the driver would let me uncrate
it in his truck.

Just got a G0593 & G1023SLWx a few weeks ago.

Grizzly sent me an email with the shipper & contact. I called
them and made sure they knew this was residential and I wanted
to have it end up in my garage at the end of a 30 ft slightly
sloping driveway. They said it was the driver's call but they
had delivered many Grizzly's and could usually pallet jack into
the garage. The biggest hassle was getting the jointer bed onto
the lift gate. Getting it all to the garage was not a big deal.
Tipped the driver....

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:28:28 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

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I checked with Grizzly about that. They charge an extra $39. Not
pleasant,
but better than the alternatives.
Once I have it on the ground, I can strip off the crate, table and motor,
and get the weight down to 273 pounds. Still heavy, but carryable.

Chances are, "some assembly" is required, and it's already in pieces...
My guess is that the stand, table and motor are not attached to the BS..

That would save some work; but I don't think the driver would let me uncrate
it in his truck.

being an ol' fart, I was thinking more of getting it from the driveway to the
shop..
As far as the $40 for getting it off the truck, it's a ripoff but not one that I
couldn't live with...


mac

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