Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to simply
put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new insert.

On Jun 5, 10:20 am, wrote:
Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to simply
put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new insert.

Looks like you may be out of luck...
http://woodbutcher.net/images/normstools/oak-insert.htm

http://www.wooddynamics.com/index.htm


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On Jun 5, 10:20 am, wrote:
Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to simply
put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new insert.

Looks like you may be out of luck...
http://woodbutcher.net/images/normstools/oak-insert.htm

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Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to simply
put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new insert.


Ultimately it is pretty to make a Zero clearance insert if you make a bunch
at one time.

Or, look here but hurry. Similar but you may be able to pretty easily make
your own replacements.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ro%20clearance

wrote:
Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to
simply put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new
insert.

Looks like the manufacturer is packing it in. Wish I'd bought one
when Grizzly was selling them for around $60.

Personally, I plan to make my own...
1. Make a regular zero clearance insert from mel board
2. rout a 1/8" +- deep groove of appropriate width with a dovetail bit
3. rip out strips of tempered masonite to fit groove

I'd rather have a nice aluminum insert but what the hey...

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On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:20:39 -0400, wrote:

Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to simply
put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new insert.

Make your inserts in batches of half a dozen. Doesn't take long that way
at all.

Or, look here but hurry. Similar but you may be able to pretty easily
make
your own replacements.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ro%20clearance

I have the Wood Dynamics insert and love it, but the Betterley Tru-Cut is
good also.
I have done a review of the Betterley Tru Cut here
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/rev...rleytrucut.htm

Hope it helps.

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"xcz" wrote in message
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Or, look here but hurry. Similar but you may be able to pretty easily
make
your own replacements.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ro%20clearance

I have the Wood Dynamics insert and love it, but the Betterley Tru-Cut is
good also.
I have done a review of the Betterley Tru Cut here
http://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/rev...rleytrucut.htm

Hope it helps.

I see that you mention Rockler as a supplier, hopefully not the only one as
Rockler has them on clearance.

Leon wrote:
wrote in message
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Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to simply
put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new insert.


Ultimately it is pretty to make a Zero clearance insert if you make a bunch
at one time.

Or, look here but hurry. Similar but you may be able to pretty easily make
your own replacements.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ro%20clearance

I was just going to head out to the shop to see if I could find the
manufacturer's info on the one I bought from Rockler. Until I read this
thread, I never really gave a thought about making up oak inserts for
it. Should be a snap once I get the wood the proper thickness in my
planer. Should be able to come up with an almost lifetime supply out of
scraps.

"Leon" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to simply
put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new insert.


Ultimately it is pretty to make a Zero clearance insert if you make a
bunch at one time.

Or, look here but hurry. Similar but you may be able to pretty easily
make your own replacements.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ro%20clearance

The insert sold at Rockler precludes using the Micro-Jig splitter, if you
are a fan of that widget (I am). I agree with you. I never thought it was
that big a deal to make up a batch of inserts.

Bob

"Bob" wrote in message
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The insert sold at Rockler precludes using the Micro-Jig splitter, if you
are a fan of that widget (I am). I agree with you. I never thought it was
that big a deal to make up a batch of inserts.

Bob


Yes, I am a fan too although I have yet to install the latest HD version
with the stainless steel core.

wrote in message
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Anybody know where Norm got his? It would be so convenient to simply
put in a new wood strip rather than forming an entire new insert.

It's a nice system but for the $$, I can buy a few sheets of MDF and spend a
few hours on an afternoon and have more than enough inserts to last me
years.
Cheers,
cc

"dadiOH" wrote in message

Looks like the manufacturer is packing it in. Wish I'd bought one
when Grizzly was selling them for around $60.

Personally, I plan to make my own...
1. Make a regular zero clearance insert from mel board
2. rout a 1/8" +- deep groove of appropriate width with a dovetail bit
3. rip out strips of tempered masonite to fit groove

I'd rather have a nice aluminum insert but what the hey...

At $60, that is why they are packing it in. For that kind of money I can
make at least 120 of them from MDF. It would be a nice item if it sold
for $15 to $20 maybe. Making the inserts was just another opportunity to
do woodworking, IMO. I still have a half dozen from when I made the first
batch.

OTOH, you can buy the business for $70,000 and give yourself a discount on
the ones for home use.

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 11:14:04 -0600, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:

It's a nice system but for the $$, I can buy a few sheets of MDF and spend a
few hours on an afternoon and have more than enough inserts to last me
years.

I noticed years ago that I tend to make dados of a couple different
sizes and not much more so I made up a bunch of inserts and then wrote
on the bottom of the insert what size dado it was for. Now when I put
in the dado stack, I put in the appropriate insert and I don't have to
keep making them over and over. I've got a pile of blanks still that
I can cut if I ever need to replace one or use a different size.

On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:19:33 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski"
wrote:

I'd rather have a nice aluminum insert but what the hey...

At $60, that is why they are packing it in. For that kind of money I can
make at least 120 of them from MDF. It would be a nice item if it sold
for $15 to $20 maybe. Making the inserts was just another opportunity to
do woodworking, IMO. I still have a half dozen from when I made the first
batch.

OTOH, you can buy the business for $70,000 and give yourself a discount on
the ones for home use.


I normally make my inserts twice each year. Summer batch in May or
June when the humidity in the northeast has risen and maximum swelling
has afflicted the MDF. SEcond batch is made in November or December
when the humidity has gone down and there's virtually no swelling in
the MDF. Summer inserts are too small in the winter and winter inserts
are too big in the summer.

"Brian Henderson" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 11:14:04 -0600, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:
I noticed years ago that I tend to make dados of a couple different
sizes and not much more so I made up a bunch of inserts and then wrote
on the bottom of the insert what size dado it was for. Now when I put
in the dado stack, I put in the appropriate insert and I don't have to
keep making them over and over. I've got a pile of blanks still that
I can cut if I ever need to replace one or use a different size.

I do the same thing. Trouble is, I upgraded to a different saw and the
inserts don't fit. I just haven't gotten around to making new ones yet.
Cheers,
cc

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 17:00:09 GMT, "dadiOH"
wrote:
....
Personally, I plan to make my own...
1. Make a regular zero clearance insert from mel board
2. rout a 1/8" +- deep groove of appropriate width with a dovetail bit
3. rip out strips of tempered masonite to fit groove
...

Exactly what I did a couple of years ago except that I used 1/2" UHMW
and 1/4" tempered hardboard. Pics in ABPW. Couldn't see paying what
they were asking for them when they are so simple to make yourself.

Have several masonite inserts labeled with the blade tilt angle along
with a bunch of blanks. New blade tilt angle? New blade width? Old
insert getting a bit ratty? Just slide in a blank insert and raise the
blade through it.
Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS
USA

On Jun 5, 6:07 pm, "xcz" wrote:

I have done a review of the Betterley Tru Cut

Yes, and it lsts the Craftsman and other model saws, but the link you
provided indicates only the Jet is supported.

Or, look here but hurry. Similar but you may be able to pretty easily
make
your own replacements.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ro%20clearance

I have the Wood Dynamics insert and love it, but the Betterley Tru-Cut is
good also.
I have done a review of the Betterley Tru Cut herehttp://www.onlinetoolreviews.com/rev...rleytrucut.htm

Hope it helps.

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Editor
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Over 150+ free tool reviews online!

On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 16:43:15 -0600, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:

I do the same thing. Trouble is, I upgraded to a different saw and the
inserts don't fit. I just haven't gotten around to making new ones yet.

True, but you just have to do the process one more time and you're set
for years again. I just don't get the people who complain they have
to keep making inserts... um... stop ruining the ones you already
made!

http://woodbutcher.net/images/normstools/oak-insert.htm

Sad, sad, muppet!