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Anyone got the new LV honing guide?
If you've gotten one already, please share your "first on your block"
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:57:05 -0700, David wrote:
If you've gotten one already, please share your "first on your block" experiences with us. Dave Being one of many who wasted their money on the original, poor design I won't use LV for my next honing guide. Here's where I'll go: http://www.alisam.com/ |
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"Scrub" wrote in message
... On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:57:05 -0700, David wrote: If you've gotten one already, please share your "first on your block" experiences with us. Dave Being one of many who wasted their money on the original, poor design I won't use LV for my next honing guide. Here's where I'll go: http://www.alisam.com/ These guides have the same limitation that the original Veritas had. None of them will handle a #8 jointer blade (2 5/8" wide) with a 1" thick waterstone. That's why I ended up making my own guide. Bob |
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Being one of many who wasted their money on the original, poor design I won't use LV for my next honing guide. Here's where I'll go: http://www.alisam.com/ Personaly, I cannot afford that, and it seems beyond principle (of whatever sort, economics?) to buy an Alisam at that cost. So, I'll try and make one myself out of hardwood. Wheels to the sides of the stone. I simply cannot stand the idea of rolling a wheel through the slurry and mashing it into the grit and muddying up the inside of the wheel's spindle. Rediculous. The new Mk II is perfect for scary sharpening though. Someone argue back, please! -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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These guides have the same limitation that the original Veritas had. None of them will handle a #8 jointer blade (2 5/8" wide) with a 1" thick waterstone. That's why I ended up making my own guide. Bob Would you show us a shot of it? -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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Have a closer look. The wheels ride to the sides, not atop the stone or sandpaper. Not being able to afford a tool isnt a valid reason to label that tool or its price as 'rediculous'. On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 05:38:33 -0700, "AAvK" wrote: Being one of many who wasted their money on the original, poor design I won't use LV for my next honing guide. Here's where I'll go: http://www.alisam.com/ Personaly, I cannot afford that, and it seems beyond principle (of whatever sort, economics?) to buy an Alisam at that cost. So, I'll try and make one myself out of hardwood. Wheels to the sides of the stone. I simply cannot stand the idea of rolling a wheel through the slurry and mashing it into the grit and muddying up the inside of the wheel's spindle. Rediculous. The new Mk II is perfect for scary sharpening though. Someone argue back, please! |
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David wrote:
If you've gotten one already, please share your "first on your block" experiences with us. I tried to buy one yesterday at the local LV retail store. Unfortunately, they weren't in stock yet. I have my name on one, for when they come in later this week. I also picked up a Norton 4000/8000 waterstone while I was there. -- Cheers, Rob |
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BillyBob wrote:
Being one of many who wasted their money on the original, poor design I won't use LV for my next honing guide. Here's where I'll go: http://www.alisam.com/ These guides have the same limitation that the original Veritas had. None of them will handle a #8 jointer blade (2 5/8" wide) with a 1" thick waterstone. That's why I ended up making my own guide. Bob IT also shares a major defect of the LV design - the iron holding mechanism being downward pressure applied by a disk. Doesn't prevent the iron form rotating even while you are tightening it or while you are honding. I really like the side clamps for holding. The wide wheel et of this guide does solve one major defect of the LV guide. -- Saville Replicas of 15th-19th century nautical navigational instruments: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/backstaffhome.html Restoration of my 82 year old Herreshoff S-Boat sailboat: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/SBOATrestore.htm Steambending FAQ with photos: http://home.comcast.net/~saville/Steambend.htm |
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Have a closer look. The wheels ride to the sides, not atop the stone or sandpaper. Not being able to afford a tool isnt a valid reason to label that tool or its price as 'rediculous'. I know that about the Alisam. I was talking about any guide that has a central single wheel to ride on, which is rediculous for water stones. You and me are the ones with the right idea. -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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AAvK says...
Personaly, I cannot afford that, and it seems beyond principle (of whatever sort, economics?) to buy an Alisam at that cost. So, I'll try and make one myself out of hardwood. Wheels to the sides of the stone. I simply cannot stand the idea of rolling a wheel through the slurry and mashing it into the grit and muddying up the inside of the wheel's spindle. Rediculous. The new Mk II is perfect for scary sharpening though. Someone argue back, please! This article makes a strong case for sharpening by hand and not using a guide at all: http://www.antiquetools.com/sharp/index.html. |
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"AAvK" wrote in message news:%0Wqe.9817$tr.9654@fed1read03... Personaly, I cannot afford that, and it seems beyond principle (of whatever sort, economics?) to buy an Alisam at that cost. So, I'll try and make one myself out of hardwood. I made a couple of honing guides from hardwood designed to provide a wide and stable footing for "scary sharp" honing. The main design criteria was that the guide should be self-aligning. Here are some pics -- complete description on the sharpening page on my website. http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65/both_guides.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65...ide_bottom.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65...lane_guide.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65...iron_guide.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65..._guide_top.jpg Ken Vaughn Visit My Workshop: http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65/ |
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"Ken Vaughn" wrote in
nk.net: I made a couple of honing guides from hardwood designed to provide a wide and stable footing for "scary sharp" honing. The main design criteria was that the guide should be self-aligning. Here are some pics -- complete description on the sharpening page on my website. http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65/both_guides.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65...ide_bottom.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65...lane_guide.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65...iron_guide.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65..._guide_top.jpg Ken Vaughn Visit My Workshop: http://home.earthlink.net/~kvaughn65/ This is another instance where, whenever I think I have begun to learn something, someone comes along, and quietly, simply, reminds me that I am but a grasshopper in this craft. Patriarch |
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This is another instance where, whenever I think I have begun to learn something, someone comes along, and quietly, simply, reminds me that I am but a grasshopper in this craft. Patriarch I agree, and I am but barely arrived spermatazoa, probably compared to you even. Ken, I have been alllllllll through your website and it is quite awesome. There is none other such as yours and I hope you keep adding to it, maybe a rotating finished projects gallery and more techniques. Thanks for the great site. -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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Patriarch says...
This is another instance where, whenever I think I have begun to learn something, someone comes along, and quietly, simply, reminds me that I am but a grasshopper in this craft. Patriarch What, you don't have six marking gauges and 26 chisels and two table saws? |
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"AAvK" wrote Being one of many who wasted their money on the original, poor design I won't use LV for my next honing guide. Here's where I'll go: http://www.alisam.com/ Personaly, I cannot afford that, and it seems beyond principle (of whatever sort, economics?) to buy an Alisam at that cost. So, I'll try and make one myself out of hardwood. You might like to try my version that costs very little. Please go to Sharpening Notes - A Honing Jig for Plane Irons. Jeff G -- Jeff Gorman, West Yorkshire, UK email : Username is amgron ISP is clara.co.uk www.amgron.clara.net |
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2005 18:03:51 -0700, "AAvK" wrote:
I was talking about any guide that has a central single wheel to ride on, which is rediculous for water stones. I've found the Stanley guide (with a wide roller) to be acceptable on water stones. The Eclipse guide though (with a narrow roller) puts a tramline into the stone within one chisel's use. |
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You might like to try my version that costs very little. Please go to Sharpening Notes - A Honing Jig for Plane Irons. Jeff G Yes Mr. Gorman, and I do have a spare lever cap. I also have the plastic General brand honing guide which is th same idea, but I despise it. So thank you for the reminder. And as usual, you don't have to reply. -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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The Alisam guide will handle a 2 5/8" blade on a 1" stone. The metal
alignment clip can be removed on the older version or the latest models have a Delrin ring that act as an alignment "slide", (using the circumference of the round barrel to index off to square the blade), which can easily be slipped on and off to accommodate the #8 jointer blade. The other two models (SS2, SS3) will accept up to a 3 inch wide blade with the slide in place. You can buy one of these and build a simple hardwood frame around the stone to raise the SS3 for 1 inch stone use OR build a platform to raise the stone for use with the SS2. Of course another option is to buy either of these models and purchase the side supports only of the SS1, (actually this will give the SS1 the bevel honing range of the other two models, from 5 to 60 degrees but only the 15 to 45 degree marks are lasered in so you just keep track of the clicks past 45 or before 15). As far as the round toggle foot clamp allowing the blade to move while tightening, we are providing a PSA strip of sandpaper that adheres to the bottom of the blade slot. This prevents all movement of the blade. " Rolling a wheel through the slurry and mashing it into the grit and muddying up the inside of the wheel's spindle. Rediculous." The wheels of the Sharpening Sled are hardened, double rubber sealed, industrial roller bearings and are press fit onto their "spindles". Therefore the slurry does not enter into the bearing or ''spindle" to bearing contact area. The LV honing guide WAS the best guide out there. I believe we have come up with improvements on it and all the other guides available. The Sharpening Sled is the next generation of honing guides. Pricey? Well it's made in the USA, supporting your neighbor next door, a quality product, (mainly anodized aluminum, brass and steel, even the labels/index marks are precision lasered in, not stick on labels) and it does what it is supposed to do better than the competition. If you feel the cost is an issue, by all means buy the next best guide from Lee Valley. It is a proven, older design that has worked well for years within it's limitations. By the way I just came back from a presentation given by Mr. Robin Lee. He was just terrific. His talk on the history of Lee Valley/Veritas, their current products, on production methods and new products was exceptional! What a great company with beautifully designed tools that will be around for generations. Robin, thanks again. Tim Queeno |
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The Alisam guide will handle a 2 5/8" blade on a 1" stone. The metal
alignment clip can be removed on the older version or the latest models have a Delrin ring that act as an alignment "slide", (using the circumference of the round barrel to index off to square the blade), which can easily be slipped on and off to accommodate the #8 jointer blade. The other two models (SS2, SS3) will accept up to a 3 inch wide blade with the slide in place. You can buy one of these and build a simple hardwood frame around the stone to raise the SS3 for 1 inch stone use OR build a platform to raise the stone for use with the SS2. Of course another option is to buy either of these models and purchase the side supports only of the SS1, (actually this will give the SS1 the bevel honing range of the other two models, from 5 to 60 degrees but only the 15 to 45 degree marks are lasered in so you just keep track of the clicks past 45 or before 15). As far as the round toggle foot clamp allowing the blade to move while tightening, we are providing a PSA strip of sandpaper that adheres to the bottom of the blade slot. This prevents all movement of the blade. " Rolling a wheel through the slurry and mashing it into the grit and muddying up the inside of the wheel's spindle. Rediculous." The wheels of the Sharpening Sled are hardened, double rubber sealed, industrial roller bearings and are press fit onto their "spindles". Therefore the slurry does not enter into the bearing or ''spindle" to bearing contact area. The LV honing guide WAS the best guide out there. I believe we have come up with improvements on it and all the other guides available. The Sharpening Sled is the next generation of honing guides. Pricey? Well it's made in the USA, supporting your neighbor next door, a quality product, (mainly anodized aluminum, brass and steel, even the labels/index marks are precision lasered in, not stick on labels) and it does what it is supposed to do better than the competition. If you feel the cost is an issue, by all means buy the next best guide from Lee Valley. It is a proven, older design that has worked well for years within it's limitations. By the way I just came back from a presentation given by Mr. Robin Lee. He was just terrific. His talk on the history of Lee Valley/Veritas, their current products, on production methods and new products was exceptional! What a great company with beautifully designed tools that will be around for generations. Robin, thanks again. Tim Queeno |
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"Tim" wrote By the way I just came back from a presentation given by Mr. Robin Lee. He was just terrific. His talk on the history of Lee Valley/Veritas, their current products, on production methods and new products was exceptional! What a great company with beautifully designed tools that will be around for generations. Robin, thanks again. Tim Queeno Just a comment about Robin Lee and Veritas. I used to teach basic marketing classes and do some consulting now and then. I always used Lee Valley and Veritas as an example of what I referred to as "excellence marketing". Basically the quality of the product and servie became the primary mareting vehicle. A rare event in today's business environment. Years later I came across Robin Lee on this forum. So I asked a number of questions about veritas. Robin wrote right back and told me he was traveling for a few days. But he would get back to me when he got back into town. Which is exactly what he did. He proceeded to tell me more about their design philosophy. And it exceeded all my expectations and confirmed everything I used to teach in my classes. And he took the time to explain it to me. An anomymous poster on this forum. I felt honored, Yes, Robin Lee is a class act. I will endorse that both professionally and personally. He has built a company based on some very high ideals. And we all benefit from it. I understand that some big money folks have offered to buy him out too. And he did not take the bait. So the quality tools and service will continue. Thanks Robin, for everything. Lee Michaels |
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Hax Planx wrote in
.net: Patriarch says... This is another instance where, whenever I think I have begun to learn something, someone comes along, and quietly, simply, reminds me that I am but a grasshopper in this craft. Patriarch What, you don't have six marking gauges and 26 chisels and two table saws? Yes, in fact I do. And two lathes, and 5 routers, and maybe 25 handplanes, and a bunch of other stuff. I have golf clubs, too. Still can't break 90, after 25 years. You truly cannot buy a game. Patriarch |
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So what *on Earth* does all of that have to do with the discussion of the qualities and functions of the tools in this thread? Can you answer that? -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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Do you work for Alisam? Did I state that there is a serious problem with the Alisam rollers on a stone? I did not. It is a product of design that I... *agree* with... ....much more than other products. Is that a problem? -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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"AAvK" writes:
I know that about the Alisam. I was talking about any guide that has a central single wheel to ride on, which is rediculous for water stones. I bought one about 15 years ago made in Japan for waterstones. -- Sending unsolicited commercial e-mail to this account incurs a fee of $500 per message, and acknowledges the legality of this contract. |
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Hax Planx wrote in
.net: Patriarch says... You truly cannot buy a game. Patriarch Now you tell me... Some lessons have to be learned personally. |
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Hi Folks,
Mine arrived this morning. Imagine having a tool arrive in New Zealand before it gets to most of the people on rec.ww! I have used the honing guide to sharpen exactly one plane iron. Maybe next weekend I'll have time to use it on a chisel or two. It is head and shoulders above the old Veritas guide which I have had for many years and always hated. The setup is easy and doesn't require any fiddling. You set the stop, insert the blade, remove the stop and get to work. The blade stays square to the roller and centered (left/right). So far, so good. Cheers, Larry In article , David wrote: If you've gotten one already, please share your "first on your block" experiences with us. Dave -- DocRec Ltd http://www.docrec.com/ phone: +64-3-545-2105 fax: +64-3-545-2106 34 Strathaven Place, Atawhai, Nelson 7001, New Zealand |
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Tim,
Maybe you can answer a question I've hade about the Alisam guide; I've been intrigued by it, but one thing bothers me about it. Currently I am using the Richard Kell honing guide that rides atop the stone. OK, the Alsam does not ride on the stone itself but on the frame you build around the stone. This is good for 3 reasons that I can see: 1. the wheels don't ride in the slurry; 2. the wheels (or wheel) does not possibly score the stone; 3. you can use the entire stone surface for sharpening, assuming the surrounding frame is wide enough. The big problem I have is how do you accurately reference the surface of several different stones to the level of the frame. For example: I use 4 stones of different grits for the full sharpening routine. Each one has a measurably different thickness. When I am done with the 1000 grit stone, I move on to the 4000 grit stone. I do not remove the blade from the honing guide till I am done with all 4 stones. Since my honing guide is referenced to the stone surface itself the bevel as set by the honing guide does not change from stone to stone. With the Alisam I would have to shim each stone individually so that each stone is the same exact height relative to the surrounding frame. For this shimming procedure to be accurate it seems like it would be awfully tedious. That, or build a separate frame for each stone. But then what do you do as the stones lose thickness due to wear and frequent flattening ? Thanks, Ken Tim wrote: The Alisam guide will handle a 2 5/8" blade on a 1" stone. The metal alignment clip can be removed on the older version or the latest models have a Delrin ring that act as an alignment "slide", (using the circumference of the round barrel to index off to square the blade), which can easily be slipped on and off to accommodate the #8 jointer blade. The other two models (SS2, SS3) will accept up to a 3 inch wide blade with the slide in place. You can buy one of these and build a simple hardwood frame around the stone to raise the SS3 for 1 inch stone use OR build a platform to raise the stone for use with the SS2. Of course another option is to buy either of these models and purchase the side supports only of the SS1, (actually this will give the SS1 the bevel honing range of the other two models, from 5 to 60 degrees but only the 15 to 45 degree marks are lasered in so you just keep track of the clicks past 45 or before 15). As far as the round toggle foot clamp allowing the blade to move while tightening, we are providing a PSA strip of sandpaper that adheres to the bottom of the blade slot. This prevents all movement of the blade. " Rolling a wheel through the slurry and mashing it into the grit and muddying up the inside of the wheel's spindle. Rediculous." The wheels of the Sharpening Sled are hardened, double rubber sealed, industrial roller bearings and are press fit onto their "spindles". Therefore the slurry does not enter into the bearing or ''spindle" to bearing contact area. The LV honing guide WAS the best guide out there. I believe we have come up with improvements on it and all the other guides available. The Sharpening Sled is the next generation of honing guides. Pricey? Well it's made in the USA, supporting your neighbor next door, a quality product, (mainly anodized aluminum, brass and steel, even the labels/index marks are precision lasered in, not stick on labels) and it does what it is supposed to do better than the competition. If you feel the cost is an issue, by all means buy the next best guide from Lee Valley. It is a proven, older design that has worked well for years within it's limitations. By the way I just came back from a presentation given by Mr. Robin Lee. He was just terrific. His talk on the history of Lee Valley/Veritas, their current products, on production methods and new products was exceptional! What a great company with beautifully designed tools that will be around for generations. Robin, thanks again. Tim Queeno |
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Right okay, I thought as much. Sounds very good. But on what and how do you sharpen? Waterstones with slurry? Sheets on glass... ? -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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w/o a guide I always get a rounded bevel, no matter how hard I try to
avoid it. Isn't that one of the main reasons to use a guide? Your a better man than I if you can freehand a perfect bevel and micro bevel. Dave Hax Planx wrote: This article makes a strong case for sharpening by hand and not using a guide at all: http://www.antiquetools.com/sharp/index.html. |
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Ken,
First off, you don't need to build a frame for the Sharpening Sled to ride on. I only suggested that if you have say a 3/8 in. diamond plate and 2 in. stones and want to use one model over all stones without the expense of buying the optional side supports. If your stones are 2 in. thick varieties but some worn to 1.5 in. for example the SS2 will be fine for all your stones. With that said, one of the benefits of the Alsiam guide, more precisely, the positive stop detents with precision laser engraving to set your bevel angle, allow you to easily raise or lower the iron to contact the different heights of stones you may be using at one setting. This is not tedious. You simply set the guide over the new stone and slightly loosen the toggle foot clamp just enough to move the blade to contact the new stone, check for squareness with alignment slide and retighten. Should take seconds! The accuracy is built in.You did not change the bevel angle at all. If the stone is a thicker one, just loosen the iron in the jig before placing over the stone. Hope this answeres your question. Tim Queeno |
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Alex,
I'm sorry, I thought you were refering to the Alisam Sharpening Sled when you mentioned riding in slurry. My apologies. Yes I am the inventor of the Sharpening sled. Regarding using the Mk II for the "Scary Sharp" technique I would say our model SS3 was made specifically for this technique. Plus the ability to sharpen scraper plane blades as well! It rides very low on the table or plate glass surface and with all the attributes of the taller Sharpening Sled models like, bevel accuracy, 4 points of stability, wide range of bevel angle detents including "back bevels", easily set a micro-bevel and an alignment guide. As far as cost, we are not the most expensive guide out there (a master honing guide for $98.60, with less capabilities as the Alisam), but I believe the best performance and value at this time. Thanks, I appreciate your support of my design. Tim Queeno |
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On Sat, 11 Jun 2005 16:57:05 -0700, David wrote:
If you've gotten one already, please share your "first on your block" experiences with us. Arrived today. Current guide is eclipse style, never had or used the Mk I Veritas guide. Setup is quick and easy. Chisel slid all over the place. Aligned a plane blade with the jig. Checked it a couple of times during sharpening. (Had to take off a bunch of metal to go from eclipse's "25 degrees" to Mk II's "25 degrees".) Blade is so far off square that it has to be mounted cockeyed in the plane. Hmm. Went back and re-read the instructions. Clamping force has to be equal for the bar to grip properly. Wording of the instructions is telling: no firm, unmoving grip is promised. The lower jaw really needs a pad of no-slip. Instructions say to put drop of oil in indicated spots. I worry about contaminating my waterstones. Shape is very well designed. Curves and cutouts fit the hand. I did feel some chafing while working with a 2" plane blade. Can't manage a Kirby-style grip. I'll be putting a bit of electrical tape on the jig's projection stop to avoid nicks. It's a huge improvement over the eclipse. I'd like to hear what Mk I owners think of it. -- "Keep your ass behind you" vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com |
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People have told me that I have a rather unusual technique. I sharpen by
hand and hold the stone in one hand and the blade in the other. The blade is stationary and I move the stone. Been doing it this way for over thirty years. "David" wrote in message ... w/o a guide I always get a rounded bevel, no matter how hard I try to avoid it. Isn't that one of the main reasons to use a guide? Your a better man than I if you can freehand a perfect bevel and micro bevel. Dave Hax Planx wrote: This article makes a strong case for sharpening by hand and not using a guide at all: http://www.antiquetools.com/sharp/index.html. |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 06:13:16 GMT, "CW" wrote:
People have told me that I have a rather unusual technique. I sharpen by hand and hold the stone in one hand and the blade in the other. The blade is stationary and I move the stone. How big a stone ? I know lots of people (especially carvers) who do this, but they use small slip stones (or else broken stones), not bench stones. This is the way I work on swords too, except I'm holding the blade down with my foot and a clamp. |
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I made it pretty much exactly like Jeff Gorman's plans at
http://www.amgron.clara.net/sharpeni...ig/hgindex.htm. I'm sorry I am in a location where I don't have access to my digital camera. Bob |
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I made it pretty much exactly like Jeff Gorman's plans at http://www.amgron.clara.net/sharpeni...ig/hgindex.htm. I'm sorry I am in a location where I don't have access to my digital camera. Bob Ah yes. Me too, currently in the making but something of a variation from that exact design. I laminated two slats of hard maple, rounded the front underside, brace drilled a 1/4" hole to center the lever cap which is now mounted with slotted round head machine screw, brass washer and wing nut underneath, the edge of the lever cap is 1/16" up from the front cutting end of the jigs main body. Still need to come up with a wheel design and it's mounting legs. Do you have any suggestion as to an axle hardware that will work well through a section of dowel as the wheel, yet connect to flat maple slats (as the legs) and still be able to spin without binding? -- Alex - newbie_neander in woodworking cravdraa_at-yahoo_dot-com not my site: http://www.e-sword.net/ |
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:56:45 +0100, Andy Dingley wrote:
People have told me that I have a rather unusual technique. I sharpen by hand and hold the stone in one hand and the blade in the other. The blade is stationary and I move the stone. How big a stone ? I know lots of people (especially carvers) who do this, but they use small slip stones (or else broken stones), not bench stones. It's also a useful technique for knives, I've found. It's easier to keep the correct angle by moving the bench stone over the stationary knife. That is, for blades such as hunting knives and such. Axes come to mind, also. Recall the Forstner sharpening jig in Leonard Lee's book. For the record, I have now tried the Mk II on spokeshave blades--Stanley style, not classic wooden shave blades. The 151 size will barely, but successfully, work with the mid-range 25 degree setting. Smaller 63/64 blades won't work in the midrange. They'll clamp in the #3 "back bevel" range, but the jig doesn't label a 25 degree stop there. There _are_ other stops machined into the jig (for the other two ranges) and I found one that is pretty close to 25 degrees. Trouble is, "there's no there there" to register against the side rail. I have it "squared" to the rail, but I'm seeing a canted bevel as I work the blade on a 325 diamond stone. The LV short-blade holder for the Mk I would probably be just the ticket for the Mk II. I also have put some wear on the bottom jaw while fussing with the little blades. -- "Keep your ass behind you" vladimir a t mad {dot} scientist {dot} com |
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