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Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving
slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. |
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On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote:
Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. You can get BAC50 which you "paint" or "roller" on. Let this soak and dry into the paving. Then that should be safe for the dog.... see https://job-prices.co.uk/best-moss-killer/ |
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On 19/04/2021 08:32, SH wrote:
On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote: Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. You can get BAC50 which you "paint" or "roller" on. Let this soak and dry into the paving. Then that should be safe for the dog.... see https://job-prices.co.uk/best-moss-killer/ The websites says : affordable €“ currently less than £30 errr, no it isn't. On Amazon it is £42.50 for 5L, and on ebay, well, you take your pick as it's anything upto £100 for 5L You can of course by smaller amounts, for less money, but not as economical. |
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On 19/04/2021 09:31, RobH wrote:
On 19/04/2021 08:32, SH wrote: On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote: Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. You can get BAC50 which you "paint" or "roller" on. Let this soak and dry into the paving. Then that should be safe for the dog.... see https://job-prices.co.uk/best-moss-killer/ The websites says : affordable €“ currently less than £30 errr, no it isn't. On Amazon it is £42.50 for 5L, and on ebay, well, you take your pick as it's anything upto £100 for 5L You can of course by smaller amounts, for less money, but not as economical. Thanks for recommendations, might buy just 1L see how it goes and buy 5L if I can find a decent price later in year. |
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On 19/04/2021 09:31, RobH wrote:
On 19/04/2021 08:32, SH wrote: On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote: Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. You can get BAC50 which you "paint" or "roller" on. Let this soak and dry into the paving. Then that should be safe for the dog.... see https://job-prices.co.uk/best-moss-killer/ The websites says : affordable €“ currently less than £30 errr, no it isn't. On Amazon it is £42.50 for 5L, and on ebay, well, you take your pick as it's anything upto £100 for 5L You can of course by smaller amounts, for less money, but not as economical. Ebay average around £40 for 5L but one or two sellers closer to £30 Before the first lockdown I purchased 5L for £24 including postage and this was around the average price on Ebay. During the first lockdown the price rose by around x3 and fell back again to around £30 for 5L after the lockdown. During the second lockdown the price rose again. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 19/04/2021 09:31, RobH wrote:
errr, no it isn't. On Amazon it is £42.50 for 5L, and on ebay, well, you take your pick as it's anything upto £100 for 5L Actually up to £1000 for 5L which usually means they have zero stock but want to keep the listing active for future use. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 19 Apr 2021 at 00:32:12 BST, "ss" wrote:
Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. Use a pressure washer? Even if they don't get your dog, I dread to think what chemicals will do once they wash off the stones. -- Cheers, Rob |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 00:32:12 +0100, ss wrote:
Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. Covered a short while back on a thread about polycarbonate roof. The BAC chemical had a warning not to let it into any drains or water courses. Which may be difficult. Cheers Dave R -- AMD FX-6300 in GA-990X-Gaming SLI-CF running Windows 7 Pro x64 -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote:
Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. Swap him for a bitch. That will kill all the grass and moss. |
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![]() "Andrew" wrote in message ... On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote: Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. Swap him for a bitch. That will kill all the grass and moss. Nope, only in small patches. |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 08:05:59 +1000, %%, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: FLUSH troll**** -- Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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ss wrote:
Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. fairy liquid 60cc 1 liter water kill moss but not quite as good as Iron Sulphate which is not expensive - |
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On 19/04/2021 23:05, %% wrote:
"Andrew" wrote in message ... On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote: Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. Swap him for a bitch. That will kill all the grass and moss. Nope, only in small patches. And how do you train her to pee in the same place every time, dorc ? |
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![]() "Andrew" wrote in message ... On 19/04/2021 23:05, %% wrote: "Andrew" wrote in message ... On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote: Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. Swap him for a bitch. That will kill all the grass and moss. Nope, only in small patches. And how do you train her to pee in the same place every time, dorc ? You only get small patches if you dont train it at all, ****wit. |
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On 20/04/2021 20:21, %% wrote:
"Andrew" wrote in message ... On 19/04/2021 23:05, %% wrote: "Andrew" wrote in message ... On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote: Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. Swap him for a bitch. That will kill all the grass and moss. Nope, only in small patches. And how do you train her to pee in the same place every time, dorc ? You only get small patches if you dont train it at all, ****wit. Your carpets must really pong. |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:21:31 +1000, %%, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote: FLUSH the useless trolling senile asshole's latest troll**** -- Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak": "That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******." Message-ID: |
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![]() "Andrew" wrote in message ... On 20/04/2021 20:21, %% wrote: "Andrew" wrote in message ... On 19/04/2021 23:05, %% wrote: "Andrew" wrote in message ... On 19/04/2021 00:32, ss wrote: Previously used all sorts to kill moss & algae on back garden paving slabs a couple of times a year. Now wife has got a small terrier puppy so need to be careful what I uae. Any recommendations for killing the moss/algae that is safe for dogs. We can probably keep dog off the area for say 4 hours if necessary. Swap him for a bitch. That will kill all the grass and moss. Nope, only in small patches. And how do you train her to pee in the same place every time, dorc ? You only get small patches if you dont train it at all, ****wit. Your carpets must really pong. You never could bull**** your way out of a wet paper bag. And I dont have any carpets at all. |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 06:21:26 +1000, %%, better known as cantankerous
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writes On 19/04/2021 23:53, wrote: fairy liquid 60cc 1 liter water kill moss but not quite as good as Iron Sulphate which is not expensive I use iron sulphate on the lawn but it would stain the paving slabs. Yes - you'll certainly end up with ginger-coloured slabs. Given half a chance, my lawns end up with 90% moss and 10% grass. I used to be able to get ferrous sulphate in 25kg bags. In the 1980s a works colleague (who was in a gardening society that got discount for bulk purchases) got me one from time to time, for around 6 pounds each. The last one I got (around 2000) was from a local hardware shop, for around 10 pounds. The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. -- Ian |
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On 20/04/2021 22:57, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , ss writes On 19/04/2021 23:53, wrote: fairy liquid 60cc 1 liter water kill moss but not quite as good as Iron Sulphate which is not expensive I use iron sulphate on the lawn but it would stain the paving slabs. Yes - you'll certainly end up with ginger-coloured slabs. Given half a chance, my lawns end up with 90% moss and 10% grass. I used to be able to get ferrous sulphate in 25kg bags. In the 1980s a works colleague (who was in a gardening society that got discount for bulk purchases) got me one from time to time, for around 6 pounds each. The last one I got (around 2000) was from a local hardware shop, for around 10 pounds. The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. You can get 2 kilo on ebay for around £7, fine for me as that lasts a couple of years for my lawn. |
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. Thomas Prufer |
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On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. You can still buy certain chemicals in reasonable bulk quantities BUT you will find that there is no mention of some of their previous specific uses because they have been banned from such use. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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In message , Thomas Prufer
writes On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. Yes - I know (hence the Brexit vote to leave). -- Ian |
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On 21/04/2021 08:21, Ian Jackson wrote:
Yes - I know (hence the Brexit vote to leave). Well I managed to buy a banana with a bend in it yesterday ![]() -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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writes On 21/04/2021 08:21, Ian Jackson wrote: Yes - I know (hence the Brexit vote to leave). Well I managed to buy a banana with a bend in it yesterday ![]() Wasn't it actually the unnaturally straight variety that was banned, as it blatantly and offensively failed the 'radius of curvature' spec? -- Ian |
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On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. In Germany, EU regulations are strictly for other countries Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. Thomas Prufer -- To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote. |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 08:08:34 +0100, alan_m wrote:
On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. You can still buy certain chemicals in reasonable bulk quantities BUT you will find that there is no mention of some of their previous specific uses because they have been banned from such use. I find that it's listed as: "Eisendünger Moosverdränger 25 kg". That transliterates to "iron fertilizer moss displacer 25 kg". Thomas Prufer |
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On 21/04/2021 13:32, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 08:08:34 +0100, alan_m wrote: On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. You can still buy certain chemicals in reasonable bulk quantities BUT you will find that there is no mention of some of their previous specific uses because they have been banned from such use. I find that it's listed as: "Eisendünger Moosverdränger 25 kg". That transliterates to "iron fertilizer moss displacer 25 kg". Thomas Prufer Local agricultural/horsey dealer sells 10Kg Ferrous Sulphate for about £12. Downside is that it tends to kill the earthworms, AFAIK. Fine if you object to worm casts on your pristine lawn but they are useful for aerating the soil, which arguably helps to deter moss in the first place. |
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On 21/04/2021 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. In Germany, EU regulations are strictly for other countries You may jest but ignoring EU based laws seemed a common trait in all countries except the UK where they were carried out to the letter. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. Thomas Prufer |
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writes On 21/04/2021 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. In Germany, EU regulations are strictly for other countries You may jest but ignoring EU based laws seemed a common trait in all countries except the UK where they were carried out to the letter. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. Thomas Prufer After a bit of looking for it, I now see that 25kg bags of ferrous sulphate ARE available, for typically £30 - plus various charges for delivery (some reasonable, some extortionate). I reckon that something like £35 total won't break the bank, and will last me a year or three. -- Ian |
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On 21/04/2021 22:04, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Fredxx writes On 21/04/2021 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. In Germany, EU regulations are strictly for other countries You may jest but ignoring EU based laws seemed a common trait in all countries except the UK where they were carried out to the letter. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. Thomas Prufer After a bit of looking for it, I now see that 25kg bags of ferrous sulphate ARE available, for typically £30 - plus various charges for delivery (some reasonable, some extortionate). I reckon that something like £35 total won't break the bank, and will last me a year or three. My first google.co.uk hit with ferrous sulphate 25kg is: https://www.keithsingletonhorticultu...te-monohydrate which at £18.95 + £6.50 carriage[1] (all including VAT) is a bit cheaper. I'm sure with a further look you can get cheaper still. [1] says: Our delivery costs are calculated by weight (KG): ENGLAND WALES & PARTS OF SOUTH SCOTLAND (MAINLAND) up to 25KG - £6.50 So not sure if 25kg would be £6.50! |
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writes On 21/04/2021 22:04, Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Fredxx writes On 21/04/2021 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. In Germany, EU regulations are strictly for other countries You may jest but ignoring EU based laws seemed a common trait in all countries except the UK where they were carried out to the letter. Seems the EU got blamed for a lot that just ain't so. Thomas Prufer After a bit of looking for it, I now see that 25kg bags of ferrous sulphate ARE available, for typically £30 - plus various charges for delivery (some reasonable, some extortionate). I reckon that something like £35 total won't break the bank, and will last me a year or three. My first google.co.uk hit with ferrous sulphate 25kg is: https://www.keithsingletonhorticultu...on-sulphate-fe rrous-sulphate-monohydrate which at £18.95 + £6.50 carriage[1] (all including VAT) is a bit cheaper. I'm sure with a further look you can get cheaper still. [1] says: Our delivery costs are calculated by weight (KG): ENGLAND WALES & PARTS OF SOUTH SCOTLAND (MAINLAND) up to 25KG - £6.50 So not sure if 25kg would be £6.50! Good find! Their location took a minute or two to find (although the address in the photo of the bag provided a subtle clue!) - and I see they are in Cumbria. Deep, darkest South Bucks is a long way to hump it. [Other suppliers are also nearly as far 'oop North West' - or in Northern Ireland.] Will investigate true cost. I see that they admit that it might be lumpy (no problem for me), which is one of the complaints made by reviewers of other suppliers. -- Ian |
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:02:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: On 21/04/2021 07:02, Thomas Prufer wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 22:57:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: The next time I wanted a bag I was told the EU had listed it as hazardous (25kg might give you a hernia??), and you could only get it in tiny 1kg boxes - which cost around 7 pounds. Eh? In Germany: 25 kg bag of ferrous sulphate 15,95 EUR plus 6,90 postage, orderable online, delivery in 3-4 days, as of today. In Germany, EU regulations are strictly for other countries I call "bull****". Thomas Prufer |
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