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The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid
of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. -- Mark |
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Mark Allread wrote:
The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Iron Sulphate as a moss killer. Can't remember if it is ferric or ferrous. Glyphosate will only work on growing plants to conduct it to the roots. It is NOT more effective to use a stronger mix. That just kills the greenery and does not allow it Ammonium sulphamate (NOT Sulphate) will help kill roots. Technically cant be sold as a weed killer but perfectly legal as a composting accelerator. Thanks to EU nonsense rule interpretation in uk A mix of the last two is fairly effective on Ivy esp with a little washing up liquid to make it wet the surface of ivy leaves. |
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:15:12 +0000, Bob Minchin wrote:
Mark Allread wrote: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Iron Sulphate as a moss killer. Can't remember if it is ferric or ferrous. Ahh of course - I've used it on grass before but avoided hard surfaces because of staining. A resurface won'r be bothered about the stain (hand to forehead momemnt) Glyphosate will only work on growing plants to conduct it to the roots. It is NOT more effective to use a stronger mix. That just kills the greenery and does not allow it Yup - use it regulalrly Ammonium sulphamate (NOT Sulphate) will help kill roots. Technically cant be sold as a weed killer but perfectly legal as a composting accelerator. Thanks to EU nonsense rule interpretation in uk Yup - I do 'compost' a few things these days. Thanks Bob. -- Mark |
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Mark Allread wrote:
The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Cheapest would probably be salt grit, or normal salt. I did my path a few winters back and when the rain washed it away, it was immaculate. The remainder of the paving was still green where no salt had been applied |
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 09:36:16 -0600, Mark Allread
wrote: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Glyphosate will kill growing plants, but it won't touch moss. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Ferrous sulphate (iron II sulphate). Light green powder. You can get it pretty cheaply if you buy it from ebay or amazon. It will oxidise to some extent when you mix it with water, and then a bit more when it's exposed to the air. It can stain concrete orange. |
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Bob Minchin wrote:
Glyphosate will only work on growing plants to conduct it to the roots. Doesn't touch moss, try a sprinkle of "oxi bleach" powder just before it rains ... |
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On Friday, 3 February 2017 15:36:19 UTC, Mark Allread wrote:
The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. -- Mark Best to pressure jet as much as possible off first. You can buy proper algaecides at you local builder's merchant to finally kill it off. |
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jim wrote:
Mark Allread Wrote in message: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Shurely if it's being resurfaced the existing surface (etc) will be removed first? Glyphosate only works on growing plants, and is not a residual "pathclear" type inhibitor to new germinations. It sounds like it's tarmac ('loose surface dressing') - in which case they normally spray on a thin coat of bitumen to act as a bonding agent rather than remove the top layer. This is very expensive and only usually used on main roads and motorways |
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Mark Allread Wrote in message:
The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Shurely if it's being resurfaced the existing surface (etc) will be removed first? Glyphosate only works on growing plants, and is not a residual "pathclear" type inhibitor to new germinations. -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 03/02/2017 15:36, Mark Allread wrote:
The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Jeyes Fluid works well but the "creosote" smell can linger. -- Reentrant |
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In message , Caecilius
writes It can stain concrete orange. There's no 'can' about it! -- Ian |
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On Friday, 3 February 2017 18:36:15 UTC, LSR wrote:
On 03/02/2017 15:36, Mark Allread wrote: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Jeyes Fluid works well but the "creosote" smell can linger. -- Reentrant Jeyes fluid is good. Results last quite a while too. |
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:15:28 +0000, Caecilius wrote:
On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 09:36:16 -0600, Mark Allread wrote: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Glyphosate will kill growing plants, but it won't touch moss. I know - that's why it is being used as well as moss killer. There are weeds as well as moss. Glyphosate, at this time o f the year will be slow but will eventually work. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Ferrous sulphate (iron II sulphate). Light green powder. You can get it pretty cheaply if you buy it from ebay or amazon. It will oxidise to some extent when you mix it with water, and then a bit more when it's exposed to the air. It can stain concrete orange. It *will* stain not can stain. Hnece why I've only used it on grass before and had forgotten about it for hard surfaces. |
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:36:12 +0000, LSR wrote:
On 03/02/2017 15:36, Mark Allread wrote: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Jeyes Fluid works well but the "creosote" smell can linger. Its a thought -ta. |
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:51:28 +0000, jim wrote:
Mark Allread Wrote in message: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Shurely if it's being resurfaced the existing surface (etc) will be removed first? Its being mecahnically brushed (Bobcat probably) then a tack coat then 30mm topcoat Glyphosate only works on growing plants, and is not a residual "pathclear" type inhibitor to new germinations. Yup - familaiar with it but I'm traeting some weds as well as moss at the same time. |
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On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:51:06 +0000, Phil L wrote:
Mark Allread wrote: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Cheapest would probably be salt grit, or normal salt. I did my path a few winters back and when the rain washed it away, it was immaculate. The remainder of the paving was still green where no salt had been applied Hmm, not thought of that. I have a heap so will try some out. |
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Mark Allread Wrote in message:
On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:51:28 +0000, jim wrote: Mark Allread Wrote in message: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Shurely if it's being resurfaced the existing surface (etc) will be removed first? Its being mecahnically brushed (Bobcat probably) then a tack coat then 30mm topcoat Glyphosate only works on growing plants, and is not a residual "pathclear" type inhibitor to new germinations. Yup - familaiar with it but I'm traeting some weds as well as moss at the same time. Whereabouts are you to get weed growth at this time? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 15:05:46 +0000, jim wrote:
Mark Allread Wrote in message: {snipped} Whereabouts are you to get weed growth at this time? Yorkshire c1000ft ASL We have had a very mild winter this year. Grass is beginning to grow again (lawns as well as beds and drive). Blackthorn is already beginning to green a tad in sunnier spots. Box hedging has already had a trim to remove the long growth and tidy it up. |
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 17:51:10 +0000, Huge wrote:
On 2017-02-04, Mark Allread wrote: On Sat, 04 Feb 2017 15:05:46 +0000, jim wrote: Mark Allread Wrote in message: {snipped} Whereabouts are you to get weed growth at this time? Yorkshire c1000ft ASL We have had a very mild winter this year. Grass is beginning to grow again (lawns as well as beds and drive). Blackthorn is already beginning to green a tad in sunnier spots. Box hedging has already had a trim to remove the long growth and tidy it up. My grass needs mowing. The bulbs already have 3" or so of leaf on them. Yup, not much of a winter rest this season - late Autumn/early winter final mow and it looks like a late Winter/early Spring start to mowing again. |
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Mark Allread wrote:
On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:36:12 +0000, LSR wrote: On 03/02/2017 15:36, Mark Allread wrote: The drive is to be resurfaced but before I have it done I want to get rid of Moss etc. Thoughts are to give a double treatment a couple of weeks apart before machine brushing (Bobcat mounted brush) to remove the dead moss and loose surface dressing. Glyphosate will be used also as a systemic weedkiller. Any recommendations on the best *moss etc* killer applicable during Feb/ March months - staining will not be a problem due to the resurfacing. Jeyes Fluid works well but the "creosote" smell can linger. Its a thought -ta. I've considered copper dust. Any experience anyone? |
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