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I had new roofing installed (GAF 50 year asphalt shingles) about 5
years ago. I've noticed that over the past year its started to develop growing moss and algae on certain sections which are located under tall oak trees. The old roof, under the same trees for 30 years had NONE of this growth. I've also noticed that on one side of my house, the same end of the house with the roof moss, has algae growing relatively significantly on my white alum siding. Again, only the past year or so. This side is south facing and there are no side trees blocking horizontal sun exposure. So, my questions a What might be causing this condition starting only this past year? What damage is being caused by the moss on the shingles? What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? Any possible recourse with the shingle manufacturer? Thanks for any/all advice provided. B |
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![]() What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? You can't beat this product. http://www.sprayandforget.com/ |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:38:50 -0800, "Jon Danniken"
wrote: wrote: What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? You can't beat this product. http://www.sprayandforget.com/ I don't trust anything that says it's "eco-friendly". Jon I don't care if it's eco friendly or not. It works. I had black algae stains all over my white shingled roof. They are gone. Not plants or animals were harmed in the process. |
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On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:36:13 -0500, wrote:
-snip- you need to make up your mind- I don't care if it's eco friendly or not. It works. I had black algae stains all over my white shingled roof. They are gone. Not plants or animals were harmed in the process. We know that statement is false. The question now, is 'what else was killed besides the lowly algae. Jim |
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tnom wrote:
wrote: http://www.sprayandforget.com/ I don't care if it's eco friendly or not. It works. I had black algae stains all over my white shingled roof. They are gone. Not plants or animals were harmed in the process. Do you have a bottle of Spray and Forget handy? If so, would you please post the listed active ingredients from the label? -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. |
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On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 12:45:00 -0500, Tony Sivori
wrote: tnom wrote: wrote: http://www.sprayandforget.com/ I don't care if it's eco friendly or not. It works. I had black algae stains all over my white shingled roof. They are gone. Not plants or animals were harmed in the process. Do you have a bottle of Spray and Forget handy? If so, would you please post the listed active ingredients from the label? Benzylkonium Chloride From Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzalkonium_chloride It is used in pharmaceuticals such as leave-on skin antiseptics, hygienic towelettes, and wet wipes, Lysol and ethanol-free solutions are often used in preparations used for skin disinfection prior to use of syringes. |
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Eco-friendly equals "doesn't work".
New and improved equals "we left out two ingredients and raised the price". The list goes on. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... wrote: What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? You can't beat this product. http://www.sprayandforget.com/ I don't trust anything that says it's "eco-friendly". Jon |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Eco-friendly equals "doesn't work". New and improved equals "we left out two ingredients and raised the price". The list goes on. The nonsense goes on, you mean. Statements like this just display an inability or unwillingness to think. "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... wrote: What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? You can't beat this product. http://www.sprayandforget.com/ I don't trust anything that says it's "eco-friendly". Jon |
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Bob F wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote: Eco-friendly equals "doesn't work". New and improved equals "we left out two ingredients and raised the price". The list goes on. The nonsense goes on, you mean. Statements like this just display an inability or unwillingness to think. http://tinyurl.com/yd4pn4m -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Eco-friendly equals "doesn't work". New and improved equals "we left out two ingredients and raised the price". The list goes on. Don't forget the "government agency X approved" label. TDD |
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Jon Danniken wrote:
wrote: What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? You can't beat this product. http://www.sprayandforget.com/ I don't trust anything that says it's "eco-friendly". Jon What if it says "Made from baby seals"? Whenever I'm in a grocery store and the checker asks me if I want paper or plastic, I always tell them that I want whatever is worst for the environment. They never get it right. *snicker* TDD |
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![]() "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... wrote: What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? You can't beat this product. http://www.sprayandforget.com/ I don't trust anything that says it's "eco-friendly". Jon I'm aware this maybe just a joke but: Some Eco Friendly products work better. The first one that comes to mind is the orange based auto part cleaner. I'm not sure my Prius is considered "EF" but they are really great cars that get fantastic mileage and used to be affordable. I'm sure the list goes on and on. Jim |
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![]() wrote in message ... I had new roofing installed (GAF 50 year asphalt shingles) about 5 years ago. I've noticed that over the past year its started to develop growing moss and algae on certain sections which are located under tall oak trees. The old roof, under the same trees for 30 years had NONE of this growth. I've also noticed that on one side of my house, the same end of the house with the roof moss, has algae growing relatively significantly on my white alum siding. Again, only the past year or so. This side is south facing and there are no side trees blocking horizontal sun exposure. So, my questions a What might be causing this condition starting only this past year? What damage is being caused by the moss on the shingles? What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? Any possible recourse with the shingle manufacturer? Thanks for any/all advice provided. B Very first result from Bing search....http://www.askthebuilder.com/539-Rem...om-Roofs.shtml Brush it off with a stiff bristle brush and add copper strips under the cap with an inch or 2 of copper exposed.... |
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"benick" wrote in
: wrote in message ... I had new roofing installed (GAF 50 year asphalt shingles) about 5 years ago. I've noticed that over the past year its started to develop growing moss and algae on certain sections which are located under tall oak trees. The old roof, under the same trees for 30 years had NONE of this growth. I've also noticed that on one side of my house, the same end of the house with the roof moss, has algae growing relatively significantly on my white alum siding. Again, only the past year or so. This side is south facing and there are no side trees blocking horizontal sun exposure. So, my questions a What might be causing this condition starting only this past year? What damage is being caused by the moss on the shingles? What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? Any possible recourse with the shingle manufacturer? Thanks for any/all advice provided. B Very first result from Bing search....http://www.askthebuilder.com/539-Rem...and-Algae-From -Roofs.shtml Brush it off with a stiff bristle brush and add copper strips under the cap with an inch or 2 of copper exposed.... Zinc strips are often used. Lot less expensive. Have no knowledge of comparison of effectiveness. |
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Red Green wrote:
"benick" wrote in : wrote in message ... I had new roofing installed (GAF 50 year asphalt shingles) about 5 years ago. I've noticed that over the past year its started to develop growing moss and algae on certain sections which are located under tall oak trees. The old roof, under the same trees for 30 years had NONE of this growth. I've also noticed that on one side of my house, the same end of the house with the roof moss, has algae growing relatively significantly on my white alum siding. Again, only the past year or so. This side is south facing and there are no side trees blocking horizontal sun exposure. So, my questions a What might be causing this condition starting only this past year? What damage is being caused by the moss on the shingles? What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? Any possible recourse with the shingle manufacturer? Thanks for any/all advice provided. B Very first result from Bing search....http://www.askthebuilder.com/539-Rem...and-Algae-From -Roofs.shtml Brush it off with a stiff bristle brush and add copper strips under the cap with an inch or 2 of copper exposed.... Zinc strips are often used. Lot less expensive. Have no knowledge of comparison of effectiveness. I thought copper worked too? TDD |
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The Daring Dufas wrote in
: Red Green wrote: "benick" wrote in : wrote in message ... I had new roofing installed (GAF 50 year asphalt shingles) about 5 years ago. I've noticed that over the past year its started to develop growing moss and algae on certain sections which are located under tall oak trees. The old roof, under the same trees for 30 years had NONE of this growth. I've also noticed that on one side of my house, the same end of the house with the roof moss, has algae growing relatively significantly on my white alum siding. Again, only the past year or so. This side is south facing and there are no side trees blocking horizontal sun exposure. So, my questions a What might be causing this condition starting only this past year? What damage is being caused by the moss on the shingles? What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? Any possible recourse with the shingle manufacturer? Thanks for any/all advice provided. B Very first result from Bing search....http://www.askthebuilder.com/539-Rem...s-and-Algae-Fr om -Roofs.shtml Brush it off with a stiff bristle brush and add copper strips under the cap with an inch or 2 of copper exposed.... Zinc strips are often used. Lot less expensive. Have no knowledge of comparison of effectiveness. I thought copper worked too? TDD Yep, that's my understanding as well. I believe they use zinc and copper in shingles during manufacture. These are usually called AR (algae resistant) Shingles. Note "Resistant" which is totally subjective and arguable. I do not know if there is a independent spec to be classified as AR. |
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![]() Very first result from Bing search....http://www.askthebuilder.com/539-Rem...om-Roofs.shtml Brush it off with a stiff bristle brush and add copper strips under the cap with an inch or 2 of copper exposed.... If you agree to put up with the removal of the particles that make up a shingle and thus shorten its life, then this scrubbing motion will certainly remove the moss and algae and a portion of the shingle.. The smart way to remove algae is to not use any scrubbing motion at all. Just apply a long lasting chemical that will eventually kill the growth. Then with periodic applications of once every two years this same chemical will maintain a algae free roof. http://www.sprayandforget.com/ |
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benick wrote:
wrote in message ... I had new roofing installed (GAF 50 year asphalt shingles) about 5 years ago. I've noticed that over the past year its started to develop growing moss and algae on certain sections which are located under tall oak trees. The old roof, under the same trees for 30 years had NONE of this growth. I've also noticed that on one side of my house, the same end of the house with the roof moss, has algae growing relatively significantly on my white alum siding. Again, only the past year or so. This side is south facing and there are no side trees blocking horizontal sun exposure. So, my questions a What might be causing this condition starting only this past year? What damage is being caused by the moss on the shingles? What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? Any possible recourse with the shingle manufacturer? Thanks for any/all advice provided. B Very first result from Bing search....http://www.askthebuilder.com/539-Rem...om-Roofs.shtml Brush it off with a stiff bristle brush and add copper strips under the cap with an inch or 2 of copper exposed.... I don't know if copper will kill the moss and algae but it will cause green stains on the roof, so there may be no change in appearance. Zinc kills moss and algae and oxidizes as white and may not cause any visible stains on the roof while eliminating the green. |
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![]() What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? ZINC strips..Google 'zinc roof strips': buy and put them up per instructions |
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Rudy wrote:
What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? ZINC strips..Google 'zinc roof strips': buy and put them up per instructions Then hope the do anything. They didn't stop the moss on my neighbor's roof. |
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On Nov 26, 6:56*pm, wrote:
I had new roofing installed (GAF 50 year asphalt shingles) about 5 years ago. *I've noticed that over the past year its *started to develop growing moss and algae on certain sections which are located under tall oak trees. *The old roof, under the same trees for 30 years had NONE of this growth. *I've also noticed that on one side of my house, the same end of the house with the roof moss, has algae growing relatively significantly on my white alum siding. *Again, only the past year or so. This side is south facing and there are no side trees blocking horizontal sun exposure. So, my questions a What might be causing this condition starting only this past year? What damage is being caused by the moss on the shingles? What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? Any possible recourse with the shingle manufacturer? Thanks for any/all advice provided. B Is new roof the same color and texture, I could understand a more agressive texture or style holding tree debris instead of alowing it to wash off since oaks drop sticky sap in early summer, a different color would not heat up the same as the old roof from the sun affecting what lives. I would not scrub the roof. Zinc strips at the peak might help. Contact the roof co, bleach and other "moss" treatments will kill mold and moss but will it ruin the roofs life expectancy? Your store bought moss treatments probably have Sodium Hypochlorate as the main ingrediant, thats just Laundry bleach for 10x the price. Contact GAF. |
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bobm3 wrote:
I had new roofing installed (GAF 50 year asphalt shingles) about 5 years ago. I've noticed that over the past year its started to develop growing moss and algae on certain sections which are located under tall oak trees. The old roof, under the same trees for 30 years had NONE of this growth. I've also noticed that on one side of my house, the same end of the house with the roof moss, has algae growing relatively significantly on my white alum siding. Again, only the past year or so. This side is south facing and there are no side trees blocking horizontal sun exposure. So, my questions a What might be causing this condition starting only this past year? Considering it recently started on the siding along with the relatively new shingles, I'd say the new shingles has little or nothing to do with the problem. As your trees grow, the shade becomes denser, which promotes moss, fungus and algae. Temperature, moisture and humidity are also factors. Perhaps this years weather promoted growth more than average. What damage is being caused by the moss on the shingles? Over time, plenty. You don't want to let this go unsolved. What could I do to eliminate and prevent future growth? There are a variety of chemical treatments, plus the metal strip method. Trim the trees back so the roof gets more sun. Any possible recourse with the shingle manufacturer? Maybe. Did they give you an ironclad guarantee against all moss, fungus, algae and mildew growth? If not, I suspect that you're on your own. Thanks for any/all advice provided. I had the same problem on my roof this year, in a shady spot that sounds similar to yours. I had both moss and fungus well established on the roof. I considered a bleach solution, but I was worried about the affect it might have on the asphalt fiberglass shingles on my roof. I checked all the products at Lowes, and all I found was siding and deck wash products did not mention use on roofs. So I took a chance, and sprayed a weed killer on it one afternoon when heavy rain was forecast for that night. It looks to have killed about 90% of it. But since I don't know what that might have done to shorten the life of the shingles, I don't recommend doing what I did. -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. |
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![]() So I took a chance, and sprayed a weed killer on it one afternoon when heavy rain was forecast for that night. It looks to have killed about 90% of it. But since I don't know what that might have done to shorten the life of the shingles, I don't recommend doing what I did. I thought you were concerned with Eco-Friendly products? Or is it just a concern when others use them? |
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Wow! Thanks everyone for quite of bit of education. I am going to try the
product mentioned first and next spring try the zinc plates for an ongoing effect. Thanks again all - this was great! Bob |
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[attributes restored] Tony Sivori wrote: So I took a chance, and sprayed a weed killer on it one afternoon when heavy rain was forecast for that night. It looks to have killed about 90% of it. But since I don't know what that might have done to shorten the life of the shingles, I don't recommend doing what I did. I thought you were concerned with Eco-Friendly products? Or is it just a concern when others use them? I don't know where you got that idea, given that I've never posted my position on that topic. So many companies greenwash their product that the "green" or "Environmentally friendly" tags have become meaningless advertising fodder. That said, I am substantially more concerned about environmental issues than many of my peers and acquaintances. There are things that were commonplace in the old days (say, 35 years ago) that I would not consider doing today. A few examples: dumping used motor oil into soil as fence line weed killer. Gasoline as parts wash, then dumped on the fence line as weed killer. Venting freon to the atmosphere, both to repeatedly refill leaking systems and for actual repair. As far as necessary use of chemicals (and other goods), I want products that work. If there are choices that are truly better for the biosphere, and the purchase cost different is not too great, I will go with the "bio friendly" option. -- Tony Sivori Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters. |
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Tony Sivori wrote:
tnom wrote: [attributes restored] Tony Sivori wrote: So I took a chance, and sprayed a weed killer on it one afternoon when heavy rain was forecast for that night. It looks to have killed about 90% of it. But since I don't know what that might have done to shorten the life of the shingles, I don't recommend doing what I did. I thought you were concerned with Eco-Friendly products? Or is it just a concern when others use them? I don't know where you got that idea, given that I've never posted my position on that topic. So many companies greenwash their product that the "green" or "Environmentally friendly" tags have become meaningless advertising fodder. That said, I am substantially more concerned about environmental issues than many of my peers and acquaintances. There are things that were commonplace in the old days (say, 35 years ago) that I would not consider doing today. A few examples: dumping used motor oil into soil as fence line weed killer. Gasoline as parts wash, then dumped on the fence line as weed killer. Venting freon to the atmosphere, both to repeatedly refill leaking systems and for actual repair. As far as necessary use of chemicals (and other goods), I want products that work. If there are choices that are truly better for the biosphere, and the purchase cost different is not too great, I will go with the "bio friendly" option. Careful, a reasonable opinion like that could get you kicked out of here. -- aem sends.... |
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