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What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices (on a
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I've heard suggestions from lemon juice and vinegar to WD-40.

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I'd start with the same solvents that Brasso contains (white spirits and
ammonia)
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I'd start with the same solvents that Brasso contains (white spirits
and ammonia)


pressure washer


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What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices


I'd start with the same solvents that Brasso contains (white spirits and
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and a tooth brush.


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What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices (on a
decorative Persian tray)?

I've heard suggestions from lemon juice and vinegar to WD-40.


Well, I've no idea if this would work, but if the tray is brass alone,
and not too big, put it in an oven at the highest setting for 10
minutes. That should expand the tray, though only very slightly, but
enough to loosen the Brasso deposit from at least one side of the
grooves. Then take the tray out and while still hot tap it upside-down
on the worksurface and see if anything comes out of the grooves. If it
does, repeat.You could then try brushing the hot tray with a hard brush
made of natural bristles to see if that helps

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On 04/04/2020 12:37, alan_m wrote:
On 04/04/2020 12:25, Andy Burns wrote:
D.M. Procida wrote:

What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices


I'd start with the same solvents that Brasso contains (white spirits
and ammonia)


and a tooth brush.


My late father was a dab hand at this sort of thing. Certainly a tooth
brush, I'd be inclined just to use water with perhaps a few drops of
washing up liquid. I think the purpose of ammonia and white spirit in
Brasso would be to attack fatty or greasy material. You might try
letting it soak.

I suspect the "abrasive" might be (or include) jeweller's rouge which is
an iron oxide, and perhaps chalk. So acids may have some effect, but you
really do not want to be attacking the metal.

If it is really hard to shift by hand you can get fibre brushes that fit
in a Dremel. Don't use wire brushes though!
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I suspect the "abrasive" might be (or include) jeweller's rouge which is
an iron oxide, and perhaps chalk.


wiki says silica (or kaolin in australia)


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D.M. Procida wrote:

What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices


pressure washer


Just in case someone stumbles upon the answer above and might be tempted
to take it seriously: it's completely stupid, and I presume made as some
kind of unfunny joke, if not actually maliciously.

Maybe for the person whose life contains nothing less unformed or
delicate than slabs of concrete a pressure washer might seem like an
appropriate answer to questions about cleaning things.

Go back under your stone where you can dwell on your favourite
conspiracy theory/climate change denial/anti-vaccination obsessions; at
least when you post about those it's obvious that one is reading the
delusions of a ranter, rather than something that risks being mistaken
for actual advice.

"It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of
intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is
futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every
criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
power-directed system of thought."


Pfft.

Or if it will help keep you out of trouble, find some Scruton to read;
as the unthinking person's philosopher, he's probably at about your
level, the "use a pressure washer" class of critical thinking.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

D.M. Procida wrote:

What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices


pressure washer


Just in case someone stumbles upon the answer above and might be tempted
to take it seriously: it's completely stupid, and I presume made as some
kind of unfunny joke, if not actually maliciously.

Maybe for the person whose life contains nothing less unformed or
delicate than slabs of concrete a pressure washer might seem like an
appropriate answer to questions about cleaning things.

Go back under your stone where you can dwell on your favourite
conspiracy theory/climate change denial/anti-vaccination obsessions; at
least when you post about those it's obvious that one is reading the
delusions of a ranter, rather than something that risks being mistaken
for actual advice.

"It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of
intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is
futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every
criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
power-directed system of thought."


Pfft.

Or if it will help keep you out of trouble, find some Scruton to read;
as the unthinking person's philosopher, he's probably at about your
level, the "use a pressure washer" class of critical thinking.

Daniele


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What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices (on a
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ultrasonic cleaning machine?

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Jimk wrote:

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

D.M. Procida wrote:

What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices


pressure washer


Just in case someone stumbles upon the answer above and might be tempted
to take it seriously: it's completely stupid, and I presume made as some
kind of unfunny joke, if not actually maliciously.

Maybe for the person whose life contains nothing less unformed or
delicate than slabs of concrete a pressure washer might seem like an
appropriate answer to questions about cleaning things.

Go back under your stone where you can dwell on your favourite
conspiracy theory/climate change denial/anti-vaccination obsessions; at
least when you post about those it's obvious that one is reading the
delusions of a ranter, rather than something that risks being mistaken
for actual advice.

"It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of
intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is
futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every
criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
power-directed system of thought."


Pfft.

Or if it will help keep you out of trouble, find some Scruton to read;
as the unthinking person's philosopher, he's probably at about your
level, the "use a pressure washer" class of critical thinking.

Daniele


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What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices (on a
decorative Persian tray)?


ultrasonic cleaning machine?

Owain



That was my thoughts but I thought €˜tray and decided it was probably going
to be too big. Ive got a ultrasonic cleaner which I use now and then but
the €˜pot is only about the size of a large saucepan.

I think a (very) long soak in soapy water would be a good start, then a
firm, fine, brush, and repeat.

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On 04/04/2020 13:41, D.M. Procida wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

D.M. Procida wrote:

What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine
crevices


pressure washer


Just in case someone stumbles upon the answer above and might be
tempted to take it seriously: it's completely stupid, and I presume
made as some kind of unfunny joke, if not actually maliciously.


No. it is made completely seriously, because it works.

A pressure washer can, depending on the distance and the quality, push
any kind of dried up gunk out of any kind of crevice: the limiting
factor is the ratio of the hardness of the substrate to the hardness of
the deposit you are trying to shift. In the case of uncoated metal - a
brass object - this is very high.


Maybe for the person whose life contains nothing less unformed or
delicate than slabs of concrete a pressure washer might seem like an
appropriate answer to questions about cleaning things.

Have you never cleaned your car with one?

Go back under your stone where you can dwell on your favourite
conspiracy theory/climate change denial/anti-vaccination obsessions;
at least when you post about those it's obvious that one is reading
the delusions of a ranter, rather than something that risks being
mistaken for actual advice.


I am not a climate denier or an anti vaccinator. I follow the
scientific data which show clearly that vaccination works and CO2 has
minimal effect on global temperature.


"It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of
intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And
since...it is futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was
not reasoned into, we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable
power to survive every criticism to the fact that it is not a
truth-directed but a power-directed system of thought."


Pfft.

Or if it will help keep you out of trouble, find some Scruton to
read; as the unthinking person's philosopher, he's probably at about
your level, the "use a pressure washer" class of critical thinking.


On the contrary, Roger Scruton clearly demonstrated that it is in fact
the 'philosophy' of the left which is intellectually bankrupt posturing
by pseudo intellectuals out to impress with mind numbing gobbledegook.

I see by your gammonised reactionary ad hominems that you are in denial
about all these issues.



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On Saturday, 4 April 2020 12:11:27 UTC+1, D.M. Procida wrote:
What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices (on a
decorative Persian tray)?


ultrasonic cleaning machine?

Owain



That was my thoughts but I thought €˜tray and decided it was probably going
to be too big. Ive got a ultrasonic cleaner which I use now and then but
the €˜pot is only about the size of a large saucepan.

I think a (very) long soak in soapy water would be a good start, then a
firm, fine, brush, and repeat.

Or a pressure washer. It's the same physics as ultrasonics. Or a brush.
Just less problematic



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(D.M. Procida) wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

D.M. Procida wrote:

What will loosen decades-old dried brass polish in fine crevices


pressure washer


Just in case someone stumbles upon the answer above and might be tempted
to take it seriously: it's completely stupid, and I presume made as some
kind of unfunny joke, if not actually maliciously.


So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.

AOL

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So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's not
supported, a pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique of
some sort. Even if not, it may represent many hours of craftsmanship,
and he wants to find a gentle yet effective method that will ease the
old polish out of the decoration.


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So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's not
supported, a pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique of
some sort. Even if not, it may represent many hours of craftsmanship,
and he wants to find a gentle yet effective method that will ease the
old polish out of the decoration.



She.

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On 05/04/2020 12:55, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 07:18, Chris Hogg wrote:

So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's not
supported, a pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique of
some sort. Even if not, it may represent many hours of craftsmanship,
and he wants to find a gentle yet effective method that will ease the
old polish out of the decoration.



Or even a miniature dental pressure washer (e.g. a Waterpick)?

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On 05/04/2020 13:01, ARW wrote:
On 05/04/2020 12:55, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 07:18, Chris Hogg wrote:

So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's not
supported, a pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique of
some sort. Even if not, it may represent many hours of craftsmanship,
and he wants to find a gentle yet effective method that will ease the
old polish out of the decoration.



She.



He, actually. It's an Italian male name.

This is him, the one in a smart suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4X2ZgZvsk






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On 05/04/2020 13:01, ARW wrote:
On 05/04/2020 12:55, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 07:18, Chris Hogg wrote:

So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's not
supported, a pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique of
some sort. Even if not, it may represent many hours of craftsmanship,
and he wants to find a gentle yet effective method that will ease the
old polish out of the decoration.



She.



He, actually. It's an Italian male name.

This is him, the one in a smart suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4X2ZgZvsk





Does a good impression of a woman considering the blob strop reply to TNP.

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On 05/04/2020 07:18, Chris Hogg wrote:

So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's not supported, a
pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique of some sort. Even
if not, it may represent many hours of craftsmanship, and he wants to find a gentle
yet effective method that will ease the old polish out of the decoration.



She.


She's had a sex change then ?

He was a bald headed chap, at least until a short time ago


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On 05/04/2020 12:55, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 07:18, Chris Hogg wrote:

So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's not supported, a
pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique of some sort. Even
if not, it may represent many hours of craftsmanship, and he wants to find a gentle
yet effective method that will ease the old polish out of the decoration.



She.


She's had a sex change then ?

He was a bald headed chap, at least until a short time ago


michael adams

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On 05/04/2020 14:31, ARW wrote:
On 05/04/2020 13:11, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 13:01, ARW wrote:
On 05/04/2020 12:55, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 07:18, Chris Hogg wrote:

So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's
not supported, a pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique
of some sort. Even if not, it may represent many hours of
craftsmanship, and he wants to find a gentle yet effective method
that will ease the old polish out of the decoration.



She.



He, actually. It's an Italian male name.

This is him, the one in a smart suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4X2ZgZvsk





Does a good impression of a woman considering the blob strop reply to TNP.

He's a Europhiliac Climate Change Believer with a third rate brain in
academia.
Naturally I get up his nose further than a corona virus.


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On 05/04/2020 16:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 05/04/2020 14:31, ARW wrote:
On 05/04/2020 13:11, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 13:01, ARW wrote:
On 05/04/2020 12:55, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 07:18, Chris Hogg wrote:

So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's
not supported, a pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique
of some sort. Even if not, it may represent many hours of
craftsmanship, and he wants to find a gentle yet effective method
that will ease the old polish out of the decoration.



She.



He, actually. It's an Italian male name.

This is him, the one in a smart suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4X2ZgZvsk





Does a good impression of a woman considering the blob strop reply to
TNP.

He's a Europhiliac Climate Change Believer with a third rate brain in
academia.
Naturally I get up his nose further than a corona virus.



We call it Conor virus but only because we have a 1st year apprentice
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We call it Conor virus but only because we have a 1st year apprentice
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But is his mum fit?

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On 05/04/2020 14:31, ARW wrote:
On 05/04/2020 13:11, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 13:01, ARW wrote:
On 05/04/2020 12:55, GB wrote:
On 05/04/2020 07:18, Chris Hogg wrote:

So what is wrong with using a pressure washer? It's brass, so unless
it's something particularly delicate, it won't be damaged. A pressure
washer would do quite well. Explain your intemperate outburst.



If it's fully supported, a pressure washer might be okay. If it's
not supported, a pressure washer could turn a tray into a bowl.

I suspect that, although Daniele did not say this, it's an antique
of some sort. Even if not, it may represent many hours of
craftsmanship, and he wants to find a gentle yet effective method
that will ease the old polish out of the decoration.



She.



He, actually. It's an Italian male name.

This is him, the one in a smart suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn4X2ZgZvsk





Does a good impression of a woman considering the blob strop reply to
TNP.

He's a Europhiliac Climate Change Believer with a third rate brain in
academia.
Naturally I get up his nose further than a corona virus.



We call it Conor virus but only because we have a 1st year apprentice
called Conor that no one wants to work with.


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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I am not a climate denier or an anti vaccinator. I follow the
scientific data which show clearly that vaccination works and
CO2 has minimal effect on global temperature.


Well, there's a hilarious combination.

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On 06/04/2020 10:38, #Paul wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
I am not a climate denier or an anti vaccinator. I follow the
scientific data which show clearly that vaccination works and
CO2 has minimal effect on global temperature.


Well, there's a hilarious combination.


Only to a complete idiot
Who knows nothing about science.


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