On 18/03/2020 16:50, Theo wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
If you have a driveway, why would you park on the street?

The mention about dropped kerbs is an example of when householders get some
rights over the street outside their house. I'm saying that, with
sufficient legal approvals, another instance could be where someone in a
house without a drive could feed a charger in the street from their own
electricity supply.

Optionally that space may be made available to others through a public
charging scheme. Then it isn't 'private' in any sense. Just like you can
get a disabled parking space outside your house in certain circumstances -
for use by any disabled people.

At one time, there were parking meters at every bay where anyone could
park. Not going to cost that much more to do the same with charging points?

The issue is there isn't sufficient wiring in the street (lampposts etc)
to power many charging points. My suggestion is to use the nice 100A feed
that's only a few metres away in the house.

Theo

Article about a Maida Vale Street with chargers in the lampposts:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...cars-3jk2f5nlt

Apologies if this has already been mentioned

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 20:38, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:17:39 on Thu, 19 Mar
2020, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:

Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time
which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

Yes, around the Millennium I bought a house about 10yrs old which had a
very generous double garage. With just the one door, although many of the
houses in the same development had two single doors.

All had room for an additional four cars on the drive (2+2 side by side)

I can get my latest Mustang into mine since I installed an electric
shutter on the outside wall and saved nine inches.AND I can open the very
large doors... ...and have my radio shack up in the gang nail truss roof
space with added support beam .....every subsequent american car I have
had just gets longer and longer wider and lower...tee hee..unless it is an
SUV that is...

It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.

On 19/03/2020 23:43, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 20:38, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:17:39 on Thu, 19
Mar 2020, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:

Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time
which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

Yes, around the Millennium I bought a house about 10yrs old which had
a very generous double garage. With just the one door, although many
of the houses in the same development had two single doors.

All had room for an additional four cars on the drive (2+2 side by side)

I can get my latest Mustang into mine since I installed an electric
shutter on the outside wall and saved nine inches.AND I can open the
very large doors... ...and have my radio shack up in the gang nail
truss roof space with added support beam .....every subsequent
american car I have had just gets longer and longer wider and
lower...tee hee..unless it is an SUV that is...

It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.
was it?...

On 20/03/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 19/03/2020 23:43, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 20:38, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:17:39 on Thu, 19
Mar 2020, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:

Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time
which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

Yes, around the Millennium I bought a house about 10yrs old which
had a very generous double garage. With just the one door, although
many of the houses in the same development had two single doors.

All had room for an additional four cars on the drive (2+2 side by
side)

I can get my latest Mustang into mine since I installed an electric
shutter on the outside wall and saved nine inches.AND I can open the
very large doors... ...and have my radio shack up in the gang nail
truss roof space with added support beam .....every subsequent
american car I have had just gets longer and longer wider and
lower...tee hee..unless it is an SUV that is...

It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.
was it?...
old bangers?...do you not think I would have gone for something shiny
and new to impress people ?

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 23:43, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 20:38, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:17:39 on Thu, 19 Mar
2020, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:

Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time
which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

Yes, around the Millennium I bought a house about 10yrs old which had a
very generous double garage. With just the one door, although many of
the houses in the same development had two single doors.

All had room for an additional four cars on the drive (2+2 side by
side)

I can get my latest Mustang into mine since I installed an electric
shutter on the outside wall and saved nine inches.AND I can open the
very large doors... ...and have my radio shack up in the gang nail truss
roof space with added support beam .....every subsequent american car I
have had just gets longer and longer wider and lower...tee hee..unless
it is an SUV that is...

It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.

was it?...

Yep, you ****ed over have them all on video.

On 20/03/2020 07:59, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 23:43, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 20:38, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:17:39 on Thu, 19
Mar 2020, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:

Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same
time which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

Yes, around the Millennium I bought a house about 10yrs old which
had a very generous double garage. With just the one door, although
many of the houses in the same development had two single doors.

All had room for an additional four cars on the drive (2+2 side by
side)

I can get my latest Mustang into mine since I installed an electric
shutter on the outside wall and saved nine inches.AND I can open the
very large doors... ...and have my radio shack up in the gang nail
truss roof space with added support beam .....every subsequent
american car I have had just gets longer and longer wider and
lower...tee hee..unless it is an SUV that is...

It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.

was it?...

Yep, you ****ed over have them all on video.
you mad

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 20/03/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 19/03/2020 23:43, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 20:38, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:17:39 on Thu, 19
Mar 2020, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:

Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time
which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

Yes, around the Millennium I bought a house about 10yrs old which had
a very generous double garage. With just the one door, although many
of the houses in the same development had two single doors.

All had room for an additional four cars on the drive (2+2 side by
side)

I can get my latest Mustang into mine since I installed an electric
shutter on the outside wall and saved nine inches.AND I can open the
very large doors... ...and have my radio shack up in the gang nail
truss roof space with added support beam .....every subsequent american
car I have had just gets longer and longer wider and lower...tee
hee..unless it is an SUV that is...

It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.
was it?...

old bangers?...

Because you never did warrant decent bribes.

do you not think I would have gone for something shiny and new to impress
people ?

No one was ever silly enough to bribe you that much.

On 20/03/2020 08:45, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 20/03/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 19/03/2020 23:43, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 20:38, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:17:39 on Thu,
19 Mar 2020, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:

Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same
time which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house
would expect
to see?

Yes, around the Millennium I bought a house about 10yrs old which
had a very generous double garage. With just the one door,
although many of the houses in the same development had two single
doors.

All had room for an additional four cars on the drive (2+2 side by
side)

I can get my latest Mustang into mine since I installed an electric
shutter on the outside wall and saved nine inches.AND I can open
the very large doors... ...and have my radio shack up in the gang
nail truss roof space with added support beam .....every subsequent
american car I have had just gets longer and longer wider and
lower...tee hee..unless it is an SUV that is...

It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.
was it?...

old bangers?...

Because you never did warrant decent bribes.

do you not think I would have gone for something shiny and new to
impress people ?

No one was ever silly enough to bribe you that much.
oh right ...

On 20/03/2020 08:47, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 20/03/2020 08:45, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 20/03/2020 07:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 19/03/2020 23:43, Rod Speed wrote:


"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 19/03/2020 20:38, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:17:39 on Thu,
19 Mar 2020, "Dave Plowman (News)" remarked:

Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same
time which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house
would expect
to see?

Yes, around the Millennium I bought a house about 10yrs old which
had a very generous double garage. With just the one door,
although many of the houses in the same development had two
single doors.

All had room for an additional four cars on the drive (2+2 side
by side)

I can get my latest Mustang into mine since I installed an
electric shutter on the outside wall and saved nine inches.AND I
can open the very large doors... ...and have my radio shack up in
the gang nail truss roof space with added support beam .....every
subsequent american car I have had just gets longer and longer
wider and lower...tee hee..unless it is an SUV that is...

It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.
was it?...

old bangers?...

Because you never did warrant decent bribes.

do you not think I would have gone for something shiny and new to
impress people ?

No one was ever silly enough to bribe you that much.
oh right ...
To be honest I was offered £200 once so you are probably correct ...

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:43:39 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


It was always obvious what all those bribes were being spent on.

Not as obvious as you being a driveling trolling piece of senile ****!

--
Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent:
"Ah, the voice of scum speaks."
MID:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 19:45:06 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Because you never did warrant decent bribes.

do you not think I would have gone for something shiny and new to impress
people ?

No one was ever silly enough to bribe you that much.

Like I said, you ARE nothing but a driveling trolling senile piece of ****,
senile Rodent!

--
about senile Rot Speed:
"This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage."
MID:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 18:59:23 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


was it?...

Yep, you ****ed over have them all on video.

Like I keep saying, you ARE a driveling trolling piece of senile ****!

--
Marland answering senile Rodent's statement, "I don't leak":
"That¢s because so much **** and ****e emanates from your gob that there is
nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse
and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a ******."
Message-ID:

On 17/03/2020 11:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Came across a car being charged in the street yesterday. H&S well taken
care of - large rubber mats covering the cable and small traffic cones
either end. Impressed. Until I looked at how it was fed. Long 13 amp
extension from the house with a big coil at the end, and a 4 way 13 amp
socket strip, with the car lead plugged into it. At least it wasn't
raining then.

House had a basement, and a light to the exterior stairs recently added by
the shiny conduit. But no dedicated charger point.


Camera photo and picture to the wiki?


Some of us like to see this ****e.

--
Adam

In message , at 21:23:14 on Thu, 19
Mar 2020, Robert remarked:
On 18/03/2020 16:50, Theo wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
If you have a driveway, why would you park on the street?
The mention about dropped kerbs is an example of when householders
get some
rights over the street outside their house. I'm saying that, with
sufficient legal approvals, another instance could be where someone in a
house without a drive could feed a charger in the street from their own
electricity supply.
Optionally that space may be made available to others through a
public
charging scheme. Then it isn't 'private' in any sense. Just like you can
get a disabled parking space outside your house in certain circumstances -
for use by any disabled people.

At one time, there were parking meters at every bay where anyone
could
park. Not going to cost that much more to do the same with charging points?
The issue is there isn't sufficient wiring in the street (lampposts
etc)
to power many charging points. My suggestion is to use the nice 100A feed
that's only a few metres away in the house.
Theo

Article about a Maida Vale Street with chargers in the lampposts:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...osts-to-charge
-electric-cars-3jk2f5nlt

Apologies if this has already been mentioned

Paywall; but other publications reveal they've converted 24 lamp-posts
to "overnight" chargers. That's around 750amps. For whatever reason,
those lamp-posts are not connected to the local substation in the normal
way.
--
Roland Perry

On 18/03/2020 09:14, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2020 08:52, michael adams wrote:
"charles" wrote in message
...
In article , Theo
wrote:
charles wrote:
In article , Theo
wrote:
We already have a solution for this - it's what happens with dropped
kerbs. If you want a dropped kerb outside your house you ask the
council for permission, pay the fee, their contractor comes and makes
it for you.

You could imagine the same principle for charge points - apply to the
council, council electrician comes and installs approved charge point
in the road, wired in to your electricity supply, council makes good
the pavement. You get a proper 32A (or whatever) fast charging point
outside your house.

But you don't have a reserved parking space outside your house.

But you do get a reserved space outside your house if you get a dropped
kerb installed.Â* OK you aren't supposed to park on it, but it is
effectively reserved for your use (to come and go to your drive) -
people
aren't allowed to park in it and so it reserves a little bit of your
street.

not so.

Indeed not. The people who aren't allowed to park on it includes
you. As dropped kerbs aren't associated with particular car
registrations or keepers only with the addresses where they're located.
Which isn't to say this isn't regularly flouted as in streets
without other restrictions, parking wardens would probably only
show up as the result of a complaint from the person with the
dropped kerb

michael adams

I have had somebody park in my driveway before

If they blocked you ON your drive, you could have got the
police to deal with them, but if they stopped you from
getting onto your drive, then the plod wouldn't help.

On 18/03/2020 16:31, williamwright wrote:
On 18/03/2020 10:32, Theo wrote:

Indeed not. The people who aren't allowed to park on it includes
you. As dropped kerbs aren't associated with particular car
registrations or keepers only with the addresses where they're located.
Which isn't to say this isn't regularly flouted as in streets
without other restrictions, parking wardens would probably only
show up as the result of a complaint from the person with the
dropped kerb

You aren't allowed to park on it, but it is constructed for the sole
use to
enter your property.Â* It isn't reserved for you, Mr J. Bloggs, but it's
reserved to allow entrance of the property 99 Acacia Avenue, whose sole
resident happens to be Mr J. Bloggs.

Think of a row of terraced houses that front directly onto the pavement.
A drop kerb would be nonsensical.

Bill

But it might stop the water from dodgy downpipes making a damp patch
on your front wall :-) (assuming the pavement was sloped towards the
road).

On 18/03/2020 13:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Theo wrote:
charles wrote:
In article , Theo
wrote:
We already have a solution for this - it's what happens with dropped
kerbs. If you want a dropped kerb outside your house you ask the
council for permission, pay the fee, their contractor comes and
makes it for you.

You could imagine the same principle for charge points - apply to
the council, council electrician comes and installs approved charge
point in the road, wired in to your electricity supply, council
makes good the pavement. You get a proper 32A (or whatever) fast
charging point outside your house.

But you don't have a reserved parking space outside your house.

But you do get a reserved space outside your house if you get a dropped
kerb installed. OK you aren't supposed to park on it, but it is
effectively reserved for your use (to come and go to your drive) -
people aren't allowed to park in it and so it reserves a little bit of
your street.

If you have a driveway, why would you park on the street?

Because your campervan is parked most of the time on your own drive ?.
Or two cars owned but only space for one on the drive ?.

The issue of 'reserving' a bit of public infrastructure for your sole
use would go away if the charging points were on a public charging
network as it wouldn't be your reserved space any more.

At one time, there were parking meters at every bay where anyone could
park. Not going to cost that much more to do the same with charging points?

On 18/03/2020 14:16, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2020 14:14, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 18/03/2020 13:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Â*Â*Â* Theo wrote:
charles wrote:
In article , Theo
wrote:
We already have a solution for this - it's what happens with dropped
kerbs. If you want a dropped kerb outside your house you ask the
council for permission, pay the fee, their contractor comes and
makes it for you.

You could imagine the same principle for charge points - apply to
the council, council electrician comes and installs approved charge
point in the road, wired in to your electricity supply, council
makes good the pavement. You get a proper 32A (or whatever) fast
charging point outside your house.

But you don't have a reserved parking space outside your house.

But you do get a reserved space outside your house if you get a dropped
kerb installed.Â* OK you aren't supposed to park on it, but it is
effectively reserved for your use (to come and go to your drive) -
people aren't allowed to park in it and so it reserves a little bit of
your street.

If you have a driveway, why would you park on the street?

The issue of 'reserving' a bit of public infrastructure for your sole
use would go away if the charging points were on a public charging
network as it wouldn't be your reserved space any more.

At one time, there were parking meters at every bay where anyone could
park. Not going to cost that much more to do the same with charging
points?

but they were clockwork ...
I remember stealing one a lorry had hit off in 1971....full of shillings

When the silver contents of the shilling is more than 5p today :-)

O
Â*Theo

Article about a Maida Vale Street with chargers in the lampposts:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...osts-to-charge
-electric-cars-3jk2f5nlt

Apologies if this has already been mentioned

Paywall; but other publications reveal they've converted 24 lamp-posts
to "overnight" chargers. That's around 750amps. For whatever reason,
those lamp-posts are not connected to the local substation in the normal
way.
Yes the "spare" capacity in converting to LED lighting mentioned comes
nowhere near the 5.5kW taken by each charger.

Apologies in that the article requires a Times Subscription to read
fully. Glad you found another source.
The relevant paras a
"All charging equipment is housed within the post and motorists plug in
vehicles to a powerpoint. Charging wires are locked at each end, meaning
that passers-by cannot disconnect vehicles. The 5.5kW chargers typically
take eight to ten hours to charge a vehicle.

It is designed for slow charging rather than the far more powerful rapid
chargepoints that can power up a battery in only half an hour but
require a significant upgrade to the supply.

The project, carried out with Ubitricity, an energy company, and
Westminster city council, forms part of a wider introduction across the
borough. In all, 296 lampposts have been converted in the borough,

Cedrik Neike, of Siemenss Smart Infrastructure, said: €œHalf of Londons
air pollution is caused by road transport.€�

In article ,
Robert wrote:
O
Theo

Article about a Maida Vale Street with chargers in the lampposts:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...osts-to-charge
-electric-cars-3jk2f5nlt

Apologies if this has already been mentioned

Paywall; but other publications reveal they've converted 24 lamp-posts
to "overnight" chargers. That's around 750amps. For whatever reason,
those lamp-posts are not connected to the local substation in the
normal way.
Yes the "spare" capacity in converting to LED lighting mentioned comes
nowhere near the 5.5kW taken by each charger.

Apologies in that the article requires a Times Subscription to read
fully. Glad you found another source.
The relevant paras a
"All charging equipment is housed within the post and motorists plug in
vehicles to a powerpoint. Charging wires are locked at each end, meaning
that passers-by cannot disconnect vehicles. The 5.5kW chargers typically
take eight to ten hours to charge a vehicle.

It is designed for slow charging rather than the far more powerful rapid
chargepoints that can power up a battery in only half an hour but
require a significant upgrade to the supply.

The project, carried out with Ubitricity, an energy company, and
Westminster city council, forms part of a wider introduction across the
borough. In all, 296 lampposts have been converted in the borough,

Cedrik Neike, of Siemens‘s Smart Infrastructure, said: ”Half of London‘s
air pollution is caused by road transport.•

ah - Seimens - mainly responsible for the Crossrail delay and the grid
failure last Summer.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 19/03/2020 14:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would expect
to see?

At our previous house, built 1987, the garage would hold my family-sized
Primera estate and my wife's Micra.

Adequate, but barely.

Andy
--
Pure chance they were both Nissan.

In message , at 21:30:14 on Fri, 20 Mar 2020,
Vir Campestris remarked:
On 19/03/2020 14:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would expect
to see?

At our previous house, built 1987, the garage would hold my
family-sized Primera estate and my wife's Micra.

Adequate, but barely.

I remember viewing a 1930's house where the garage door was visibly
narrower than the estate agent's Audi TT. Had probably been built for
something about the size of an original mini, like an Austin 7.
--
Roland Perry

On Friday, 20 March 2020 19:13:31 UTC, Robert wrote:
O
Â*Theo

Article about a Maida Vale Street with chargers in the lampposts:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...osts-to-charge
-electric-cars-3jk2f5nlt

Apologies if this has already been mentioned

Paywall; but other publications reveal they've converted 24 lamp-posts
to "overnight" chargers. That's around 750amps. For whatever reason,
those lamp-posts are not connected to the local substation in the normal
way.
Yes the "spare" capacity in converting to LED lighting mentioned comes
nowhere near the 5.5kW taken by each charger.

Apologies in that the article requires a Times Subscription to read
fully. Glad you found another source.
The relevant paras a
"All charging equipment is housed within the post and motorists plug in
vehicles to a powerpoint. Charging wires are locked at each end, meaning
that passers-by cannot disconnect vehicles. The 5.5kW chargers typically
take eight to ten hours to charge a vehicle.

It is designed for slow charging rather than the far more powerful rapid
chargepoints that can power up a battery in only half an hour but
require a significant upgrade to the supply.

The project, carried out with Ubitricity, an energy company, and
Westminster city council, forms part of a wider introduction across the
borough. In all, 296 lampposts have been converted in the borough,

Cedrik Neike, of Siemenss Smart Infrastructure, said: €œHalf of Londons
air pollution is caused by road transport.€�

Bull****.
Nobody runs their battery to depletion or anywhere near.
Ergo charging takes much less time than that.

On 21/03/2020 07:17, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 21:30:14 on Fri, 20 Mar 2020,
Vir Campestris remarked:
On 19/03/2020 14:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time
which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

At our previous house, built 1987, the garage would hold my
family-sized Primera estate and my wife's Micra.

Adequate, but barely.

I remember viewing a 1930's house where the garage door was visibly
narrower than the estate agent's Audi TT. Had probably been built for
something about the size of an original mini, like an Austin 7.
modern cars are far too big these days...

Andrew wrote:
On 18/03/2020 13:55, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Theo wrote:
charles wrote:
In article , Theo
wrote:
We already have a solution for this - it's what happens with dropped
kerbs. If you want a dropped kerb outside your house you ask the
council for permission, pay the fee, their contractor comes and
makes it for you.

You could imagine the same principle for charge points - apply to
the council, council electrician comes and installs approved charge
point in the road, wired in to your electricity supply, council
makes good the pavement. You get a proper 32A (or whatever) fast
charging point outside your house.

But you don't have a reserved parking space outside your house.

But you do get a reserved space outside your house if you get a dropped
kerb installed. OK you aren't supposed to park on it, but it is
effectively reserved for your use (to come and go to your drive) -
people aren't allowed to park in it and so it reserves a little bit of
your street.

If you have a driveway, why would you park on the street?

Because your campervan is parked most of the time on your own drive ?.
Or two cars owned but only space for one on the drive ?.



One solution to people parking in the street when they have drives/ garages
is the solution many US towns/ cities use- restrict the time a car vehicle
can be parked in the street even in residential areas away from town
centres etc. Typically the rule might be 3 days limit or no parking
between midnight and 6 am. Some areas even stop you keeping unused/wrecked
cars on your drive etc. Keeping a camper between trips would be fine,
keeping and old junker for spares or and old van for storage would be a
problem.

"Jim GM4DHJ ..." wrote in message
...
On 21/03/2020 07:17, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 21:30:14 on Fri, 20 Mar 2020,
Vir Campestris remarked:
On 19/03/2020 14:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time
which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

At our previous house, built 1987, the garage would hold my family-sized
Primera estate and my wife's Micra.

Adequate, but barely.

I remember viewing a 1930's house where the garage door was visibly
narrower than the estate agent's Audi TT. Had probably been built for
something about the size of an original mini, like an Austin 7.

modern cars are far too big these days...

Mine isnt. I cant even sleep inside it,

On 21/03/2020 08:02, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 21/03/2020 07:17, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 21:30:14 on Fri, 20 Mar
2020, Vir Campestris remarked:
On 19/03/2020 14:17, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time
which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would
expect
to see?

At our previous house, built 1987, the garage would hold my
family-sized Primera estate and my wife's Micra.

Adequate, but barely.

I remember viewing a 1930's house where the garage door was visibly
narrower than the estate agent's Audi TT. Had probably been built for
something about the size of an original mini, like an Austin 7.
modern cars are far too big these days...

It is the width that is generally a problem, but that is dictated by
having much thicker doors to make them safer in side impacts.

SteveW

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 19:43:55 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

modern cars are far too big these days...

Mine isnt. I cant even sleep inside it,

Of COURSE it isn't ...and if only because it allows you to auto-contradict
again, you clinically insane senile idiot!

--
addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent:
"You on the other hand are a heavyweight bull****ter who demonstrates
his particular prowess at it every day."
MID:

In message , Roland Perry
writes
I remember viewing a 1930's house where the garage door was visibly
narrower than the estate agent's Audi TT. Had probably been built for
something about the size of an original mini, like an Austin 7.

Opposite problem here. The garage is behind the house, and the doors
(pair, side hinged) have a reasonable width to them. However, there are
gates across the drive, level with the front of the house, which have a
gap of 6ft. How many modern cars would fit through that gap ?

Adrian
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Adrian wrote:
In message , Roland Perry
writes
I remember viewing a 1930's house where the garage door was visibly
narrower than the estate agent's Audi TT. Had probably been built for
something about the size of an original mini, like an Austin 7.

Opposite problem here. The garage is behind the house, and the doors
(pair, side hinged) have a reasonable width to them. However, there are
gates across the drive, level with the front of the house, which have a
gap of 6ft. How many modern cars would fit through that gap ?

My Mazda 6 won't - only by 0.3 inches

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Has anyone ever bought a house with a garage built at the same time which
was actually an adequate size for the sort of car that house would expect
to see?

Round here the council has recently approved a new development where it was stated in the planning application that the attached garages would be too small to house a car in effect like most other garages they will simply be storerooms yet the stupid thing is they are going to fit a garage door?

Back end of 2018 I had a garage erected 40sq. mts. with a 4.8m frontage with a 9 wide door. I can easily get in and out of the Kuga either side despite putting in 0.8m wide benching down one side and 0.7m racking down the other side. When I finally get my kitchen out of the back end the last 2.4m of the length will be partitioned off to become my man cave. There is not a single bloke who has come to our property that has not wanted to a have a look round or expressed their envy. When the groundworks were being done there were quite a few mutterings as to whether we were putting up another house without planning permission, so out of badness I put it about that I was getting a pile of bunk beds and putting up asylum seekers.. When the racking and benching arrived some people were developing swan necks trying to see what I was up to🤩

Richard

"Tricky Dicky" wrote in message
...
When the groundworks were being done there were quite a few mutterings as
to whether we were putting up another house without planning permission, so
out of badness I put it about that I was getting a pile of bunk beds and
putting up asylum seekers. When the racking and benching arrived some people
were developing swan necks trying to see what I was up to🤩

That's *evil* - but very funny.

On 21/03/2020 07:17, Roland Perry wrote:
I remember viewing a 1930's house where the garage door was visibly
narrower than the estate agent's Audi TT. Had probably been built for
something about the size of an original mini, like an Austin 7.

I have a laugh the other day. There are these "speed cushions" in the
next village, and a guy in an Austin 7 came along.

Straight down the gap between them

Andy

On 21/03/2020 07:47, harry wrote:
Bull****.
Nobody runs their battery to depletion or anywhere near.
Ergo charging takes much less time than that.

Ergo the range is much less than claimed.

You can't get the range without running the battery down.

Andy

On Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:49:45 UTC, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 21/03/2020 07:47, harry wrote:
Bull****.
Nobody runs their battery to depletion or anywhere near.
Ergo charging takes much less time than that.

Ergo the range is much less than claimed.

You can't get the range without running the battery down.

Andy

Idiot.
99% of journeys are only a few miles.
Nobody runs the battery to anywhere near depletion because if that happened, it's a tow job, not just a can of petrol.

Most battery charging is just daily top ups of a couple of hours.

On 17/03/2020 12:59, NY wrote:

I presume the plug on the car has a way of securing the socket on the
charging lead so it can't be maliciously unplugged. That will be a
significant problem: drunks late at night think it's "funny" to unplug
cars so they are not fully charged for their owners to use them in the
morning.



That will make a change from setting fire to wheelie bins.

--
Adam

In message , Vir Campestris
writes
On 21/03/2020 07:17, Roland Perry wrote:
I remember viewing a 1930's house where the garage door was visibly
narrower than the estate agent's Audi TT. Had probably been built for
something about the size of an original mini, like an Austin 7.

I have a laugh the other day. There are these "speed cushions" in the
next village, and a guy in an Austin 7 came along.

Straight down the gap between them

:-) A childhood friend's parents had one. Parked up in the village high
street one day and watched a rear wheel roll past and on down the
street! 3 stud fixing?

--
Tim Lamb

On 19/03/2020 20:41, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:49:12 on Thu, 19
Mar 2020, charles remarked:

I presume street lights are billed to the local council according to
number of hours that the timer turns them on and the rated power of each
light (which varies with technology eg sodium versus LED) - unless each
lamp-post has its own meter.

working (as a student) with SESEB, the substations often provided a
separate street light supply with the time clock in the substation.

Yes, they generally have a completely separate supply (from the
households) in effect a 13A extension cord from one lamp-post to the
next, and next...

Street lights are not normally metered for billing purposes. The
councils pay a fixed fee based on the lamp type, wattage and hours run.

Photocells are the normal method of lamp switching on/off but recent
trends in switching off streetlights from approx 11pm to 5am ish has
brought back timeswitches for that purpose.

In message , at 09:54:22 on Sun, 22 Mar
2020, Tufnell Park remarked:
On 19/03/2020 20:41, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:49:12 on Thu,
19 Mar 2020, charles remarked:

I presume street lights are billed to the local council according

number of hours that the timer turns them on and the rated power of each
light (which varies with technology eg sodium versus LED) - unless each
lamp-post has its own meter.

working (as a student) with SESEB, the substations often provided a
separate street light supply with the time clock in the substation.
Yes, they generally have a completely separate supply (from the
households) in effect a 13A extension cord from one lamp-post to the
next, and next...

Street lights are not normally metered for billing purposes. The
councils pay a fixed fee based on the lamp type, wattage and hours run.

It's nothing to do with metering, rather than the size of cable used.

Photocells are the normal method of lamp switching on/off but recent
trends in switching off streetlights from approx 11pm to 5am ish has
brought back timeswitches for that purpose.

Round here they've been replaced over the last 10rs with lights on some
kind of wireless network. So they can turn them on and off remotely.
--
Roland Perry

In message , at 10:32:01 on Sun, 22 Mar 2020,
Roland Perry remarked:
In message , at 09:54:22 on Sun, 22 Mar
2020, Tufnell Park remarked:
On 19/03/2020 20:41, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:49:12 on Thu,
19 Mar 2020, charles remarked:

I presume street lights are billed to the local council according
number of hours that the timer turns them on and the rated power of each
light (which varies with technology eg sodium versus LED) - unless each
lamp-post has its own meter.

working (as a student) with SESEB, the substations often provided a
separate street light supply with the time clock in the substation.
Yes, they generally have a completely separate supply (from the
households) in effect a 13A extension cord from one lamp-post to the
next, and next...

Street lights are not normally metered for billing purposes. The
councils pay a fixed fee based on the lamp type, wattage and hours
run.

It's nothing to do with metering, rather than the size of cable used.

The Cambridge scheme uses higher efficiency (not LED) lamps, reducing
the consumption from 50 to 30 watts per streetlight (apart from big ones
on trunk roads).

Photocells are the normal method of lamp switching on/off but recent
trends in switching off streetlights from approx 11pm to 5am ish has
brought back timeswitches for that purpose.

Round here they've been replaced over the last 10rs with lights on some
kind of wireless network. So they can turn them on and off remotely.

Here we are, nodes on the IoT (Insecurity of Things).

https://www.telensa.com/news/telensa...city-wireless-
control-system-for-55000-led-streetlights-in-gloucestershire-uk/

(That's about Glos, not Cambs, it's the company that's confusing based
in Cambridge).
--
Roland Perry