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B'bye!
Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Sainsbury's, are you watching? |
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On 14/08/2019 19:28, R D S wrote:
B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! The ones in our local B&Q work quite well. |
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On 14/08/2019 19:28, R D S wrote:
B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Sainsbury's, are you watching? The problem is that the B&Q point of sales equipment sits on top of a computer system that was only state of the art in the 1980s. B&Q cannot even support contactless card payments. As a result a member of staff has to intervene in self service tills in 90% of transactions. -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 14/08/2019 19:38, Brian Reay wrote:
On 14/08/2019 19:28, R D S wrote: B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Â*The ones in our local B&Q work quite well. So you haven't been asked to put the 4 bags of sand (variable weight depending on wetness) on the scales and found that the position of the scales gives an non ideal position for lifting them off again? -- mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet.
The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. Brian -- ----- -- This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please Note this Signature is meaningless.! "R D S" wrote in message ... B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Sainsbury's, are you watching? |
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"R D S" wrote in message ... B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Sainsbury's, are you watching? I suspect the hugely different types/quantities of items that people need to checkout makes the comparison invalid tim |
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not tim |
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On 14/08/2019 19:38, Brian Reay wrote:
On 14/08/2019 19:28, R D S wrote: B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Â*The ones in our local B&Q work quite well. Are you sure they are still there? The ones from ours vanished recently. -- Regards, Martin Brown |
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Brian Gaff wrote
I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. Works fine for me. I've only had two glitches. One where they stopped weighing the output side so its now not hard to accidentally scan the same item twice, but easy to avoid when you know of the problem. The other one was just because someone had ****ed up updating the database so that veg item wasn’t selectable. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. But it remains to be seen how well that works when you change your mind about wanting something etc. The best of ours even manages to get the barcode off the tiny sticker on stuff like nectarines so you don’t even have to tell it what veg it is anymore, just out the bag of nectarines you have filled from the bin of them loose on the scales and its all auto. Doesn’t work for stuff like iceberg lettuce or potatoes that don’t have the tiny sticker on the loose items tho. "R D S" wrote in message ... B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Sainsbury's, are you watching? |
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"tim..." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:36:12 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. It's just too expensive to do it perfectly, for the time being, senile idiot! -- about senile Rot Speed: "This is like having a conversation with someone with brain damage." MID: |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 10:16:51 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. Works fine for me. How could it be different! LOL -- Richard addressing Rot Speed: "**** you're thick/pathetic excuse for a troll." MID: |
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On Thursday, 15 August 2019 01:17:02 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 14/08/2019 19:38, Brian Reay wrote: On 14/08/2019 19:28, R D S wrote: B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! The ones in our local B&Q work quite well. So you haven't been asked to put the 4 bags of sand (variable weight depending on wetness) on the scales and found that the position of the scales gives an non ideal position for lifting them off again? The reason for their demise may not be entirely unconnected with B&Q's potential liability for damages, should anyone injure themselves when lifting stuff on and off such scales.* When employees of a company are required to lift similar weights, mere exhortation isn't considered sufficient. They need to be actuallly drilled in the correct method - bend the knees blah blah blah.** michael adams *More especially as back pain and back injuries are supposedly easy to feign. *According to the training episode in "the Office" at least. Unless of course Gareth Keenan was simply making it all up, with the connivance of David Brent, simply so as impress the new bit of totty. .... |
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On 14/08/2019 21:06, tim... wrote:
I suspect the hugely different types/quantities of items that people need to checkout makes the comparison invalid Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Complete PIA if you are buying anything age restricted. Which I often. |
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On 14/08/2019 19:38, Brian Reay wrote:
On 14/08/2019 19:28, R D S wrote: B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Â*The ones in our local B&Q work quite well. we just knew you wouldn't have any problems...binned my B&Q card since they stopped the 10% off thingy..... |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. presumably there is no loose veg another dumbing down that environmentally unfriendly tim |
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:02:11 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:28:13 +0100, R D S wrote: B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Sainsbury's, are you watching? I shop at both Tesco's and Sainsbury's. I almost always use the self service checkout in Tesco's, but had so much hassle with the ones in Sainsbury's that I no longer use them. I find Sainsbury's works better than Morrisons - fewer error messages. |
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:46:48 +0100, R D S wrote:
On 14/08/2019 21:06, tim... wrote: I suspect the hugely different types/quantities of items that people need to checkout makes the comparison invalid Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Sexist bas***d :-) |
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On 15/08/2019 19:33, Scott wrote:
On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:46:48 +0100, R D S wrote: On 14/08/2019 21:06, tim... wrote: I suspect the hugely different types/quantities of items that people need to checkout makes the comparison invalid Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Sexist bas***d :-) Dammit! Obviously I meant personned. |
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 20:00:58 +0100, R D S wrote:
On 15/08/2019 19:33, Scott wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:46:48 +0100, R D S wrote: On 14/08/2019 21:06, tim... wrote: I suspect the hugely different types/quantities of items that people need to checkout makes the comparison invalid Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Sexist bas***d :-) Dammit! Obviously I meant personned. I realised that :-) |
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On 8/15/2019 8:00 PM, R D S wrote:
On 15/08/2019 19:33, Scott wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:46:48 +0100, R D S wrote: On 14/08/2019 21:06, tim... wrote: I suspect the hugely different types/quantities of items that people need to checkout makes the comparison invalid Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Sexist bas***d :-) Dammit! Obviously I meant personned. Or perdaughtered... |
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On 8/15/2019 8:00 PM, R D S wrote: On 15/08/2019 19:33, Scott wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:46:48 +0100, R D S wrote: On 14/08/2019 21:06, tim... wrote: I suspect the hugely different types/quantities of items that people need to checkout makes the comparison invalid Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Sexist bas***d :-) Dammit! Obviously I meant personned. Or perdaughtered... Staffed is good. -- Roger Hayter |
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On 8/15/2019 9:10 PM, Roger Hayter wrote:
S Viemeister wrote: On 8/15/2019 8:00 PM, R D S wrote: On 15/08/2019 19:33, Scott wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:46:48 +0100, R D S wrote: Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Sexist bas***d :-) Dammit! Obviously I meant personned. Or perdaughtered... Staffed is good. Yes. |
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On 15/08/2019 21:14, S Viemeister wrote:
On 8/15/2019 9:10 PM, Roger Hayter wrote: S Viemeister wrote: On 8/15/2019 8:00 PM, R D S wrote: On 15/08/2019 19:33, Scott wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:46:48 +0100, R D S wrote: Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Sexist bas***d :-) Dammit! Obviously I meant personned. * Or perdaughtered... Staffed is good. Yes. But discriminates against contract workers SteveW |
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"tim..." wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. presumably there is no loose veg Cant see that being viable with lettuce and cabbage etc. another dumbing down that environmentally unfriendly |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 08:10:34 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: presumably there is no loose veg Cant see that Can't you, senile idiot? BG -- Bod addressing senile Rot: "Rod, you have a sick twisted mind. I suggest you stop your mindless and totally irresponsible talk. Your mouth could get you into a lot of trouble." Message-ID: |
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On Thursday, 15 August 2019 19:11:03 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. presumably there is no loose veg I'd class wodney as a loose vegatable ;-) another dumbing down that environmentally unfriendly tim |
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"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. presumably there is no loose veg Cant see that being viable with lettuce and cabbage etc. why ever not? Obviously the pack size will be one (and the price will be per unit not per kilo) but some shops rund ere pack and price them that way The cabbages in particular can range from football sized to ones barely bigger than a tennis ball, all for the same price. I refuse to buy unless I get the football, but others are obviously not so choosey tim another dumbing down that environmentally unfriendly |
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tim... wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. presumably there is no loose veg Cant see that being viable with lettuce and cabbage etc. why ever not? Obviously the pack size will be one (and the price will be per unit not per kilo) but some shops rund ere pack and price them that way The cabbages in particular can range from football sized to ones barely bigger than a tennis ball, all for the same price. I refuse to buy unless I get the football, but others are obviously not so choosey tim Some of us are desparately keen to save the planet by not wasting cabbage. -- Roger Hayter |
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Scott wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:02:11 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:28:13 +0100, R D S wrote: B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Sainsbury's, are you watching? I shop at both Tesco's and Sainsbury's. I almost always use the self service checkout in Tesco's, but had so much hassle with the ones in Sainsbury's that I no longer use them. I find Sainsbury's works better than Morrisons - fewer error messages. Think that annoys me about Tesco is it no longer weighs your own bag first - as the last software did. So more often than not needs an assistant to reset it. Unless you run everything through first, then load into your own bags afterwards. Which slows things down. -- *If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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R D S wrote: On 14/08/2019 21:06, tim... wrote: I suspect the hugely different types/quantities of items that people need to checkout makes the comparison invalid Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Complete PIA if you are buying anything age restricted. Which I often. Why go to a self service store if you need staff to just pay for what you've selected? -- *Also too, never, ever use repetitive redundancies * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Friday, 16 August 2019 14:04:31 UTC+1, tim... wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. presumably there is no loose veg Cant see that being viable with lettuce and cabbage etc. why ever not? Obviously the pack size will be one (and the price will be per unit not per kilo) but some shops rund ere pack and price them that way The cabbages in particular can range from football sized to ones barely bigger than a tennis ball, all for the same price. I refuse to buy unless I get the football, but others are obviously not so choosey. More doesn't always mean better. This is one reason why some go to fruit and veg stalls becaus ethe produce is better than the supermarkets wrapped and waxed fruit and it's cheaper too. |
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"tim..." wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... "tim..." wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" wrote in message ... I don't think either the tech or the humans are quite ready for this yet. The way to go is the Amazon way in the states where the cameras and other sensors can keep track of what you get and charge you with no interaction whatsoever. I'd really like to test that and see if it works accurately. I suspect not Yeah, can't see how it can even if the trolley weighs itself continuously, particularly with loose veg and fruit etc. presumably there is no loose veg Cant see that being viable with lettuce and cabbage etc. why ever not? Those have to be loose. Obviously the pack size will be one (and the price will be per unit not per kilo) But if you put the sticker on one of the leaves of the iceberg lettuce, that leaf can come off. but some shops rund ere pack and price them that way Yeah, ours do that with lettuce. Dunno about cabbage, I don't buy those. The cabbages in particular can range from football sized to ones barely bigger than a tennis ball, all for the same price. I refuse to buy unless I get the football, but others are obviously not so choosey |
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Lonely Psychopathic Senile Ozzie Troll Alert!
On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 05:51:20 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again: Yeah, ours do that with lettuce. Dunno about cabbage, You should now, ever since you became a cabbage, you 85-year-old trolling senile idiot! -- Bod addressing senile Rot: "Rod, you have a sick twisted mind. I suggest you stop your mindless and totally irresponsible talk. Your mouth could get you into a lot of trouble." Message-ID: |
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 20:02:11 +0100, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:28:13 +0100, R D S wrote: B'bye! Our local B&Q have binned them off, took a long time for them to admit it, but they have, they aren't helping anybody! Sainsbury's, are you watching? I shop at both Tesco's and Sainsbury's. I almost always use the self service checkout in Tesco's, but had so much hassle with the ones in Sainsbury's that I no longer use them. I had a considerable degree of trouble with a Tesco's staff member at Broughton regarding their automated checkouts. One arrived to find that Airbus had failed to be advised of my coming, so I did the usual and called locally for coffee and papers while the issue was sorted. Went to check out my stuff at Tescos. I was prompted for the number of bags used. I had already hit the "no bags" button at the start. I called the lady over and pointed out I didn't need a bag anyway, so why make my desired purchase conditional on applying a negative to the purchase of a product I had no intention of buying anyway. She stated it was only for carriers, when I went on to point out that Tesco's had goods that I wanted even less than carrier bags and I should have the preference of declining those also, she failed to see the logic totally. Sadly the diversion got a little tedious after around ten minutes, the poor lady wasn't into philosophy, so I felt a little "short changed" on the transaction due to Tesco's choice of bargain basement staff. There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot. ~Steven Wright |
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On 16/08/2019 20:51, Rod Speed wrote:
But if you put the sticker on one of the leaves of the iceberg lettuce, that leaf can come off. That's what a loose leaf binder is for... |
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On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 22:06:07 +0100, Steve Walker
wrote: On 15/08/2019 21:14, S Viemeister wrote: On 8/15/2019 9:10 PM, Roger Hayter wrote: S Viemeister wrote: On 8/15/2019 8:00 PM, R D S wrote: On 15/08/2019 19:33, Scott wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 12:46:48 +0100, R D S wrote: Whatever, i'd love to see the back of them and have manned tills instead. Sexist bas***d :-) Dammit! Obviously I meant personned. * Or perdaughtered... Staffed is good. Yes. But discriminates against contract workers Or volunteers in a charity shop :-) |
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