Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.


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Adam

On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Tim


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Adam

On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.



--
Adam

ARW wrote:
On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.


Is it the same weight? There has to be a reason for the 50mph sticker. If
the size is the same then that only leaves weight/thickness or possibly
speed rating as the remaining option. Have you checked the speed rating on
the tyre wall?

No doubt just penny pinching by the car makers.

Tim

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ARW wrote:

On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.

Sounds as though someone has a bureaucratic rule saying all spare wheels
must have speed restriction sticker. Whether the manufacturer or the
evil insidious undemocratic EU. (In the latter case it's probably the
UK that proposed it.)

Or perhaps they don't think mere consumers can do up wheelnuts; but in
that case 5mph would be better limit.




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On 12/04/2019 21:54, ARW wrote:
On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.




Do they have the same load capability?

Has someone put a replacement tyre on the space savers rim and is it the
correct size for the tyre?

On 12/04/2019 22:40, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote:

On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.

Sounds as though someone has a bureaucratic rule saying all spare wheels
must have speed restriction sticker. Whether the manufacturer or the
evil insidious undemocratic EU. (In the latter case it's probably the
UK that proposed it.)

No such rule and the corsa my daughter bought has a full sized spare
even if its a steel not alloy.



Or perhaps they don't think mere consumers can do up wheelnuts; but in
that case 5mph would be better limit.

I have seen people struggle to undo wheel nuts but not tighten them.
Typically they only need about 55 ft-pounds.

Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Roger Hayter
wrote:

ARW wrote:

On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.

Sounds as though someone has a bureaucratic rule saying all spare wheels
must have speed restriction sticker. Whether the manufacturer or the
evil insidious undemocratic EU. (In the latter case it's probably the
UK that proposed it.)

Or perhaps they don't think mere consumers can do up wheelnuts; but in
that case 5mph would be better limit.

Sometimes garages don't do up the wheelnuts.

Very true, But that would be a reason for not using cars at all. Or
for checking the wheelnuts.

--

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On 12/04/2019 23:42, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Roger Hayter
wrote:

ARW wrote:

On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH
on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.
It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.

Sounds as though someone has a bureaucratic rule saying all spare wheels
must haveÂ* speed restriction sticker.Â* Whether the manufacturer or the
evil insidious undemocratic EU.Â* (In the latter case it's probably the
UK that proposed it.)

Or perhaps they don't think mere consumers can do up wheelnuts;Â* but in
that case 5mph would be better limit.

Sometimes garages don't do up the wheelnuts.

some years ago I put a car in for MoT and to have two tyres replaced
which I was told would not passs the MoT. Paid up and was given the Mot
cert. Driving home ther was a regular knocking noise from the rear.
Checked the wheel bolts and found that they were only finger tight on
one wheel. Took the car back (only about a mile each way) Garage was
not concerned but my question was how could a car with loose wheel bolts
pass an Mot? No sensible answer but needless to say I have never used
them again.

Malcolm

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In message , Roger Hayter
writes
Sounds as though someone has a bureaucratic rule saying all spare
wheels must have speed restriction sticker. Whether the manufacturer
or the evil insidious undemocratic EU. (In the latter case it's
probably the UK that proposed it.)

I have had two Octavia's. One deciding factor was the full size spare.
Both had full size alloys with full sized tyres.

The last one had no stickers. The current one has 50mph stickers on the
spare. I have no idea why.
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article
,
Tim+ wrote:

ARW wrote:
On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.


Is it the same weight? There has to be a reason for the 50mph sticker. If
the size is the same then that only leaves weight/thickness or possibly
speed rating as the remaining option. Have you checked the speed rating
on
the tyre wall?
No doubt just penny pinching by the car makers.

Nothing wrong with that. How often d'ye need a spare wheel, these days.
Last time I needed one was in Whitstable in 2014. Time before that was
probably in 1984 or so.

While I went a long time between flats, recently I went through
a patch where I got a couple a year for a few years. Almost always
due to a screw through the tread, in one case two screws almost
189 degrees apart so it couldnt be sabotage. We do have a lot of
new houses being built so likely they are coming off builders utes etc.

On 12/04/2019 22:42, dennis@home wrote:
On 12/04/2019 21:54, ARW wrote:
On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.




Do they have the same load capability?

Has someone put a replacement tyre on the space savers rim and is it the
correct size for the tyre?


I would say, judging by the condition of the spare and the accessories,
that it has never been touched until yesterday.

--
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On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.


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Are you sure that its the same size? At first glance my spare appears to
be the same size but on closer inspection I have 17 inch wheels on the
car and the spare is 16 inch (with the restricted speed warning stickers).



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On 12/04/2019 23:44, Tim Streater wrote:

Nothing wrong with that. How often d'ye need a spare wheel, these days.
Last time I needed one was in Whitstable in 2014. Time before that was
probably in 1984 or so.


I went 10 years without needing a spare and then I had 2 punctures
within months - one in the side wall writing of a new tyre that had done
less than 1k miles.
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"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.



Adam

Are you sure that its the same size? At first glance my spare appears to
be the same size but on closer inspection I have 17 inch wheels on the car
and the spare is 16 inch (with the restricted speed warning stickers).



very true ...

On Friday, 12 April 2019 20:49:08 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

The reason is there are less cords in it.
Presumably to save cost/weight.
All tyres have a speed rating.
https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-article/tyre-speed-rating

On 12/04/2019 23:44, Tim Streater wrote:


Nothing wrong with that. How often d'ye need a spare wheel, these days.
Last time I needed one was in Whitstable in 2014. Time before that was
probably in 1984 or so.


In my van?

At least one puncture a year.

I only got the car at Christmas and I have only used it for 5 journeys.

--
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On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.


FTAOD what is the speed rating on the tyre - that is, the letter at the
end of the code on the sidewall rather than the sticker? (I've never
seen an "F" rating on a car tyre but then I've not seen a lot.)

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"harry" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 12 April 2019 20:49:08 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

The reason is there are less cords in it.
Presumably to save cost/weight.
All tyres have a speed rating.
https://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-article/tyre-speed-rating

very true...

On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

Perhaps some versions ship with a space saver, and the sticker gets
"fitted" regardless of what actual tyre / wheel you get. The speed
rating letter on the tyre will give you the actual answer.


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On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 12:35:21 +1000, Jac Brown, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote:

Nothing wrong with that. How often d'ye need a spare wheel, these days.
Last time I needed one was in Whitstable in 2014. Time before that was
probably in 1984 or so.

While I went

Oh, no! ...and this innocent little thread was Rot-free. so far! tsk

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In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
On 12/04/2019 22:40, Roger Hayter wrote:
ARW wrote:

On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.

Sounds as though someone has a bureaucratic rule saying all spare wheels
must have speed restriction sticker. Whether the manufacturer or the
evil insidious undemocratic EU. (In the latter case it's probably the
UK that proposed it.)

No such rule and the corsa my daughter bought has a full sized spare
even if its a steel not alloy.



Or perhaps they don't think mere consumers can do up wheelnuts; but in
that case 5mph would be better limit.

I have seen people struggle to undo wheel nuts but not tighten them.
Typically they only need about 55 ft-pounds.

That depends on who did them up.

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On Saturday, 13 April 2019 08:48:16 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

Perhaps some versions ship with a space saver, and the sticker gets
"fitted" regardless of what actual tyre / wheel you get. The speed
rating letter on the tyre will give you the actual answer.

For anyone that does't know, a 100mph tyre can need to be limited to 50mph if it's not the same size as the one on the other side.


NT

On 13/04/2019 08:03, Dozy Jim ... wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.



Adam

Are you sure that its the same size? At first glance my spare appears to
be the same size but on closer inspection I have 17 inch wheels on the car
and the spare is 16 inch (with the restricted speed warning stickers).



very true ...



He did say they were all R16 IIRC.

That doesn't mean the rims are the same width though or the tyre loading
is the same.

On 13/04/2019 09:45, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
harry wrote:

The reason is there are less cords in it.

fewer.

Or 'is less cord in it'


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On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 20:49:07 +0100, ARW wrote:

Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

Run-flat tyres are limited to 50mph if they're punctured, but it wouldn't
make sense to have a run-flat spare.

I also can't see it as penny-pinching by the manufacturer - a special
lightweight tyre is surely more expensive than the standard one.

If the tyre is the original-supplied one, perhaps it is a lightweight one
and the manufacturer needed to shave off a kilo or two to get the car into
a lower tax band.

On 13/04/2019 10:00, dennis@home wrote:
On 13/04/2019 08:03, Dozy Jim ... wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.



Adam

Are you sure that its the same size? At first glance my spare appears to
be the same size but on closer inspection I have 17 inch wheels on
the car
and the spare is 16 inch (with the restricted speed warning stickers).



very true ...



He did say they were all R16 IIRC.

He said "The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15"

That doesn't mean the rims are the same width though or the tyre loading
is the same.



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On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 10:42:30 PM UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 12/04/2019 21:54, ARW wrote:
On 12/04/2019 21:14, Tim+ wrote:
On Friday, April 12, 2019 at 8:49:08 PM UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

It's a space saver. Narrower width, smaller diameter and maybe even
thinner carcase. Although it may not be obvious, it IS
lighter/thinner/weaker than a *real* spare tyre

Having a problem with the words "same sized tyre"?

The tyres on the car and the spare all say 195/65R15.




Do they have the same load capability?

Has someone put a replacement tyre on the space savers rim and is it the
correct size for the tyre?

My spare is narrower and it is made of steel and not alloy.

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , Bill
wrote:

In message , Roger Hayter
writes
Sounds as though someone has a bureaucratic rule saying all spare wheels
must have speed restriction sticker. Whether the manufacturer or the
evil insidious undemocratic EU. (In the latter case it's probably the UK
that proposed it.)

I have had two Octavia's. One deciding factor was the full size spare.
Both had full size alloys with full sized tyres.

The last one had no stickers. The current one has 50mph stickers on the
spare. I have no idea why.

Perhaps because when changing a wheel, you're only changing one of a
pair instead of both? Don't they recommend swapping only pairs from
back to front (rather than, say, just rotating all four by one position
clockwise)?

Problem with that line is that no one else has 50mph stickers on their full
sized spares.

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On Saturday, 13 April 2019 08:48:16 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

Perhaps some versions ship with a space saver, and the sticker gets
"fitted" regardless of what actual tyre / wheel you get. The speed
rating letter on the tyre will give you the actual answer.

For anyone that does't know, a 100mph tyre can need to be limited
to 50mph if it's not the same size as the one on the other side.

But his are the same size.

"ARW" wrote in message
...
On 12/04/2019 23:44, Tim Streater wrote:


Nothing wrong with that. How often d'ye need a spare wheel, these days.
Last time I needed one was in Whitstable in 2014. Time before that was
probably in 1984 or so.


In my van?

At least one puncture a year.

I only got the car at Christmas

you've got generous friends

tim

"dennis@home" wrote in message
...
On 13/04/2019 08:03, Dozy Jim ... wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message
...
On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.

Are you sure that its the same size? At first glance my spare appears to
be the same size but on closer inspection I have 17 inch wheels on the
car
and the spare is 16 inch (with the restricted speed warning stickers).

very true ...

He did say they were all R16 IIRC.

That doesn't mean the rims are the same width though

But the markings on the tyres do.

or the tyre loading is the same.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 19:55:27 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


He did say they were all R16 IIRC.

That doesn't mean the rims are the same width though

But the markings on the tyres do.

In auto-contradicting mode again, you self-opinionated senile pest?

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"tim..." wrote in message
...


"ARW" wrote in message
...
On 12/04/2019 23:44, Tim Streater wrote:


Nothing wrong with that. How often d'ye need a spare wheel, these days.
Last time I needed one was in Whitstable in 2014. Time before that was
probably in 1984 or so.


In my van?

At least one puncture a year.

I only got the car at Christmas

you've got generous friends

Nope, he was a good boy that year and didnt **** too many per
day so santa decided that he wasnt as bad as he used to be.

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 19:49:43 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


For anyone that does't know, a 100mph tyre can need to be limited
to 50mph if it's not the same size as the one on the other side.

But his are the same size.

Happy to be able to auto-contradict again, senile asshole? BG

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On Saturday, 13 April 2019 08:12:57 UTC+1, Robin wrote:
On 12/04/2019 20:49, ARW wrote:
Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only
difference I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.


FTAOD what is the speed rating on the tyre - that is, the letter at the
end of the code on the sidewall rather than the sticker? (I've never
seen an "F" rating on a car tyre but then I've not seen a lot.)

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There is a rating for agricultural vehicles not expected to exceed 30 mph ISTR

Not likely to be balanced?
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Got a flat. A simple swap, but the spare has 50MPH stickers on it.

So why would the spare wheel have a maximum speed limit of 50MPH on it
when it has the same sized tyre on it as the flat one? The only difference
I can see is that the spare is not an alloy wheel.


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On 12/04/2019 22:56, Roger Hayter wrote:

Very true, But that would be a reason for not using cars at all. Or
for checking the wheelnuts.


I retorque mine after any garage does anything - they are invariably
overtightened.

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On 13/04/2019 09:43, Tim Streater wrote:

Perhaps because when changing a wheel, you're only changing one of a
pair instead of both? Don't they recommend swapping only pairs from
back to front (rather than, say, just rotating all four by one position
clockwise)?



Depends on the car and tyre.

Many are directional now so you have to keep left on left and right on
right.

My car is particularly fussy - it allows no more than 3.5mm tread depth
difference from to back and recommends changing axels as a pair.

Use of spare (which will invariably be different tread depth) is to be
minimised.

Expensive if you get an unrepairable puncture. I had a puncture the
other week - luckily that was repairable.

Now I will only take our old car with less constraints to the dump!

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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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Nothing wrong with that. How often d'ye need a spare wheel, these days.
Last time I needed one was in Whitstable in 2014. Time before that was
probably in 1984 or so.

I've probably needed my spare on average once every two or three years,
typically due to finding the car with a flat tyre as I'm about to set off,
or being forced off the road into a kerb by an oncoming car or tractor that
should have given way to me when it is overtaking parked cars on its side of
the road. Normally it's nails that I pick up - usually just too far from the
tread towards the sidewall to be repaired.

The last time was last summer with a tyre that had about 3000 miles use on
it. An oncoming tractor pulled out to overtake parked cars and I had to slam
the brakes on and swerve to the left because he still kept coming towards me
and didn't even stop (if I'd got his number I'd have reported him). The
sharp edge of the tarmac was about 2" higher than the earth at the side of
the road, and it gashed the inside tyre wall.

So, yes, a spare tyre is essential. And given that I've discovered several
punctures just as I've been about to start a long journey on a Sunday night
(when tyre repair/replacement places are closed) it really needs to be a
fully-functioning, unrestricted tyre. Space-savers assume that punctures
only ever occur when garages are open to repair the tyre - how very naive!
I've had to postpone several journeys till the following morning because my
present car doesn't have a like-for-like spare tyre (ie same size and speed
rating, just on steel rather than alloy wheel).

Am I very unlucky with the number of punctures I get, or is it just a hazard
of living in a rural area where road surfaces are poorer and there's more
crap (nails, thorny branches) left on the road by other vehicles?