On 29/07/2018 14:05, Jim K wrote:

Why would a shopkeeper or tradesman accept less than the item/job
owes him?

Because they have assumed a certain transaction cost and built it into
the retail price. That likely includes accepting payment in forms which
come at a cost to the trader - such as credit card fees on each
transaction. If you come along and elect to pay in a way which does not
incur them some of their budgeted fees, then they have some more
negotiating space. Much the same when you offer to buy the whole box
rather than a one off...


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On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 20:06:03 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:

FLUSH another load of the usual senile ****

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On 29/07/2018 11:29, Pamela wrote:
On 04:17 29 Jul 2018, Bill Wright wrote:

The new freezer came with an envelope containing the instructions
and so forth. There was a large label on the bag: REGISTER NOW!"
This would 'activate the free one year guarantee'. This seems to
do no more than duplicate our statutory rights. In the bag was a
glossy brochure offering 'Peace of mind'. Peace of mind is worth a
lot so I read on. It turned out that the peace of mind was limited
to not worrying about the freezer breaking down. ....

Is that why you were looking for a new freezer thermometer?

On account of the recent hot weather, I got one of these. It's works
surprisingly well. Two remote sensors, great range, good display,
rising/falling indicator, strong magnets, etc. Can't understand why
it's so cheap because I would place this as a £35 device not £14.50.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wireless-Di...dp/B07BNR1VJB/


Yes. I bought three. They are not wireless because nothing wireless
works very well round here. We are on high ground near a telecoms tower.
I wondered if I could extend the wires. It turned out that the sensor is
a thyristor that has resistance varying from about 10kohm to oh I dunno
maybe 1Mohm, so the extra resistance in 3m of cat 5 made very little
difference.

They work well. It's surprising how the reading varies as the freezer
motor cycles between on and off. And when you open the freezer door the
air temp inside drops very rapidly; from -18 to -8 in no time.

http://cpc.farnell.com/brannan/22-42...oor/dp/IN07382

Or £13 on Amazon

Bill

Bill Wright Wrote in message:
On 29/07/2018 10:12, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

If I see a genuine bargain, I can
buy it there and then.

I got 15 peaches for £1.50 on the market the other day.

Bill


Did you haggle for a cash discount?
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In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
By 'cash' I mean funds in the bank, so 'cash' = cash and cards. Cash
available to use, means you can often get a 10% discount on a posted
price in a shop, especially true if they are offering interest free
credit on an item.

Anywhere offering interest free credit is unlikely to have the best
prices. Don't you check around for prices before buying a large item?

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On 29/07/2018 14:35, Jim K wrote:
Bill Wright Wrote in message:
On 29/07/2018 10:12, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

If I see a genuine bargain, I can
buy it there and then.

I got 15 peaches for £1.50 on the market the other day.

Bill


Did you haggle for a cash discount?

Yes. He wanted three quid but he was a wog so haggling came naturally to
him.

Bill

John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 29/07/2018 14:05, Jim K wrote:

Why would a shopkeeper or tradesman accept less than the item/job
owes him?

Because they have assumed a certain transaction cost and built it into
the retail price. That likely includes accepting payment in forms which
come at a cost to the trader - such as credit card fees on each
transaction. If you come along and elect to pay in a way which does not
incur them some of their budgeted fees, then they have some more
negotiating space. Much the same when you offer to buy the whole box
rather than a one off...

10%?
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On 29/07/18 09:00, Woody wrote:
irk in Expensive World!


Erk* or Oik**

Irk means 'to irritate'


* aircraftsman
** Vulgar people who spat openly.


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gospel of envy.

Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.

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On 29/07/18 15:40, Pamela wrote:
it waits 10 minutes (or something which looks
like that in Japanese) before using the temp value to indicate up or
down trend.

Best thing I've bought all year.

What a ****ing sad life you lead.


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kind word alone.

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Best thing I've bought all year.


best thing I bought this year was a double cereal dispenser ...got a black
one and a white one and a single one in black ....

"Clive Page" wrote in message
...
On 29/07/2018 09:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Actually I think it ties in to a whole mentality which is somnewhat like
the TV rental market used to be. I want a product, but not te
reposnibility of ownerhsip.

So cars are contract hired.With AA style support.

Appliances are bought on credit with a guarantee. If they break then
they are fixed FIC.

Household maintenace is on fixed annual price call out.

It's all about people who can understand monthly outgoings, but not how
to budget.

Further up the income scale, they simply buy new on fault.

Agreed. These extended warranties are in my view always a con. But
enough people get taken in that they account for a significant amount of
profit for the manufacturer and, of course, the insurance companies
involved.

It's also an explanation for the difficulties of the Brexit negotiations,
where there's an attempt to separate trade in goods and services. Both
are broadly speaking covered while we are a member of the EU, but if we
leave - who knows? The problem is that lot of the value of the supply of
goods comes from a service element. And not just in consumer purchases:
if a business buys a software package it will probably also buy a software
update service, and at the highest levels, if you buy a frigate or an
airliner you expect that a servicing contract will be included in the
deal.


ITYF that ongoing maintenance of a purchased item is not the type of service
that is considered separately from goods under EU regs.

There wont be a specific problem with this when we leave

tim

On 29/07/2018 10:15, Clive Page wrote:
On 29/07/2018 09:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Actually I think it ties in to a whole mentality which is somnewhat
like the TV rental market used to be. I want a product, but not te
reposnibility of ownerhsip.

So cars are contract hired.With AA style support.

Appliances are bought on credit with aÂ* guarantee. If they break then
they are fixed FIC.

Household maintenace is on fixed annual price call out.

It's all about people who can understand monthly outgoings, but not
how to budget.

Further up the income scale, they simply buy new on fault.

Agreed.Â* These extended warranties are in my view always a con.Â* But
enough people get taken in that they account for a significant amount of
profit for the manufacturer and, of course, the insurance companies
involved.

I have only ever bought one and I think that one was a pretty good deal.

I bought a twin cassette unit to add to my separates system (in the late
90s). It cost me £120 at Richer sounds. An extra £20 bought a 10-year
warranty, plus free head cleaning and free head re-alignment throughout
that period. It also gave a 1/3 (1/2 if you still had the original
packaging) refund against an upgrade purchase in those 10 years.

SteveW

On Sunday, 29 July 2018 10:12:04 UTC+1, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
Norman Wells formulated on Sunday :
That may be true if you live on Lundy, but I'm rather sceptical elsewhere.

I'm just trying to remember what pride comes before.

I insure the car, because it is a legal requirement. I insure the house
because I could not afford to replace it. I self insure everything
else, including myself, with the money I have saved in not paying for
extra insurances and extended warranties. I save a considerable amount
by also paying cash for everything I buy. Having spare cash available
also helps make everything much cheaper to buy. If I see a genuine
bargain, I can buy it there and then.

A man after my own heart!
If anything goes bust I spend quite a while trying to fix it.

On Sunday, 29 July 2018 11:54:26 UTC+1, Tricky Dicky wrote:
I never buy extended warranties but accept them if offered "free". When we bought our last washing machine the model we wanted came with such a "free" 5 year warranty. On arrival we found the programmer control damaged and requested a replacement. The company were unable to replace it as it was the last of an end of line product, they offered a number of alternatives of a similar price and spec. However, none of the alternatives came with an extended warranty and to get them insured would have cost £90 if I remember correctly. I argued with them that to me the so called "free" warranty had monetary value and was an influence in my purchase choice to end up paying a similar price for a machine with an extended warranty meant accepting a much lower spec machine or forking out more for one of a similar spec.

In the end they offered us a "free" warranty or an upgrade to a higher spec machine to the value of purchasing a warranty. We chose the upgrade and bought a Siemens which, and here comes the rub, came with a free manufacturers extended warranty. So win win!

It did occur to me at the time that the extended free warranty was obviously a sweetener to shift a number of end of line products but at best it would only offer repairs as any machine could not be replaced except by offering equivalents.

Incidently the machine never needed a repair over the period covered by the warranty and it was only last year that I had to replace the motor brushes.

Richard

IMV the best washing machine is Miele.
Ours is nearly forty years old.
I have cleared the drain filter twice.
It cost twice the price of most machines back then.

On 29/07/2018 14:04, wrote:
On Sunday, 29 July 2018 09:00:48 UTC+1, Woody wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong but I thought under EU law any appliance had to
have a minimum two year guarantee.

EU law requires you to be able to enforce your statutory rights
against the retailer for a minimum of two years. Irrelevant in
Britain, as the limitation period is six years from purchase anyway
(five in Scotland, from the discovery of a fault). Some countries in
the UK had much shorter periods, or the period could be limited by
contract.

I think you will find they can't take your statutory rights away by
contract.

dennis@home wrote:

wrote:

Woody wrote:
I thought under EU law any appliance had to have a minimum two
year guarantee.

EU law requires you to be able to enforce your statutory rights
against the retailer for a minimum of two years. Irrelevant in
Britain, as the limitation period is six years from purchase anyway
(five in Scotland, from the discovery of a fault). Some countries in
the UK had much shorter periods, or the period could be limited by
contract.

I think you will find they can't take your statutory rights away by
contract.

If 1999/44/EC was a EU Regulation, it would apply directly in all EU
countries, but it's a EU Directive, which means it needs to be
implemented individually into each country's laws.

The relevant UK Statutory Instrument is "The Sale and Supply of Goods to
Consumers Regulations 2002" which claims to implement 1999/44/EC, but
makes no mention of any two year guarantee period.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/3045/pdfs/uksi_20023045_en.pdf

Jim K wrote
Harry Bloomfield wrote
Jim K wrote

By encouraging tax evasion?

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Aw Bless!

By 'cash' I mean funds in the bank, so 'cash' = cash and cards.
Cash available to use, means you can often get a 10% discount
on a posted price in a shop, especially true if they are offering
interest free credit on an item.

You routinely ask for 10% discounts on items when paying by cash
or card?

He said often, not routinely.

Unless you buy on a variant of h.p. how else would it be possible
to pay?!

By having cash in the bank, stupid.

Cash available means you can spot a bargain and buy it if it is
something you want /need there and then, before bargain is bought
by A N Other. Cash means that if your washing machine dies and is not
economical to repair, you don't need to borrow money at high interest
rates to replace it, or go to the likes of that high street retailer who
let you pay twice as much for spreading the cost over a year or two.

I mentioned nothing about tax evasion, or anything else illegal
- just simply not paying more than you need to for things.

The obvious interpretation of this is you (perhaps unwittingly
judging by your dubious definitions) encourage tax evasion by
offering to pay cash (folding money) for things in exchange for a
discount.

Nope, that was just your stupidity.

Why would a shopkeeper or tradesman
accept less than the item/job owes him?

There is no such animal as "than the item/job owes him?"

Anyone in a competitive market has to take what they can get.

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
dennis@home wrote:

wrote:

Woody wrote:
I thought under EU law any appliance had to have a minimum two
year guarantee.

EU law requires you to be able to enforce your statutory rights
against the retailer for a minimum of two years. Irrelevant in
Britain, as the limitation period is six years from purchase anyway
(five in Scotland, from the discovery of a fault). Some countries in
the UK had much shorter periods, or the period could be limited by
contract.

I think you will find they can't take your statutory rights away by
contract.

If 1999/44/EC was a EU Regulation, it would apply directly in all EU
countries, but it's a EU Directive, which means it needs to be implemented
individually into each country's laws.

The relevant UK Statutory Instrument is "The Sale and Supply of Goods to
Consumers Regulations 2002" which claims to implement 1999/44/EC, but
makes no mention of any two year guarantee period.

because there is no such thing as an EU mandated warranty period

tim

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 29/07/2018 14:05, Jim K wrote:

Why would a shopkeeper or tradesman accept less than the item/job
owes him?

Because they have assumed a certain transaction cost and built it into the
retail price. That likely includes accepting payment in forms which come
at a cost to the trader - such as credit card fees on each transaction. If
you come along and elect to pay in a way which does not incur them some of
their budgeted fees, then they have some more negotiating space.

But the merchant card fee is never anything like 10%

Much the same when you offer to buy the whole box rather than a one off...

On 29/07/18 11:29, Indy Jess John wrote:
At least I have been lucky enough to buy from manufacturers who wait
until the 12-months guarantee is nearly expired before tempting me with
ongoing insurance (which I ignore).Â* The washing machine insurance was a
bit expensive I thought; expensive enough to remember the amount quoted.
Â*When the machine did eventually go wrong, it was many years later and
the money I would have paid for the insurance would have bought one and
a half replacement machines. I just bought one.



I bought a small cheap washing machine, a temporary measure until I get
the tuits to reorganise the house. It cost £200, extended warranty £70
or thereabouts. So I pointed out to the sales-droid, when I lived in a
small flat I was spending over £300pa at the launderette, so if it
lasted a year I would consider it good value, after which I would
probably be replacing it with something better. Comming up to two years
now and still ok.


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(–€Ì¿Ä¹Ì¯–€Ì¿ Ì¿)
No low-hanging fruit, just a lot of small berries up a tall tree.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
By 'cash' I mean funds in the bank, so 'cash' = cash and cards. Cash
available to use, means you can often get a 10% discount on a posted
price in a shop, especially true if they are offering interest free
credit on an item.

Anywhere offering interest free credit is unlikely to have the best
prices.

Some can at times. One of my neighbours kids whose parents
don’t have a car asked me to give him a lift to pick up a TV at
one of them so I checked the price he was planning to pay at
that place and found it was the best price in the country.

Don't you check around for prices before buying a large item?

I certainly do and can sometimes be surprised at who is cheapest.

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
news
On 29/07/2018 14:35, Jim K wrote:
Bill Wright Wrote in message:
On 29/07/2018 10:12, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

If I see a genuine bargain, I can
buy it there and then.

I got 15 peaches for £1.50 on the market the other day.

Bill


Did you haggle for a cash discount?

Yes. He wanted three quid but he was a wog so haggling came naturally to
him.

One of the garage salers who resells what she finds at garage sales
deliberately puts a higher price on the stuff she flogs at the markets
so that the buy can have a warm inner glow when they drive her
price down before they buy it. And yes, she is a wog, italian.

John Rumm formulated on Sunday :
Because they have assumed a certain transaction cost and built it into the
retail price. That likely includes accepting payment in forms which come at a
cost to the trader - such as credit card fees on each transaction. If you
come along and elect to pay in a way which does not incur them some of their
budgeted fees, then they have some more negotiating space. Much the same when
you offer to buy the whole box rather than a one off...

Exactly! I buy a £3,000 laptop for cash, I expect to do a deal. I
expect to start at 20% discount, rather loose a sale, they negotiate. I
buy a car, I negotiate a deal.

I would not expect to go into ASDA and negotiate the cost of a bag of
frozen peas, that would just be silly, but if I spot something on none
food special at Lidl, maybe a box which has been opened/ slightly
damaged - I would discuss the cost with the manager if I wanted the
item and I was happy to accept the damage, providing the cost were
reduced.

Dave Plowman (News) pretended :
Anywhere offering interest free credit is unlikely to have the best
prices. Don't you check around for prices before buying a large item?

Of course I do. I try to avoid rushing into making a forced purchase.
Sometimes I will have it in mind to buy something, idly doing odd bits
of research before settling on a make and a model which suits. Then I
research costs from various sources.

Our boiler failed a few months ago, so my processing of model research
and pricing was much more hurried. None the less I still managed a very
good deal on the replacement.

On 29/07/2018 04:17, Bill Wright wrote:
The new freezer came with an envelope containing the instructions and so
forth. There was a large label on the bag: REGISTER NOW!" This would
'activate the free one year guarantee'. This seems to do no more than
duplicate our statutory rights. In the bag was a glossy brochure
offering 'Peace of mind'. Peace of mind is worth a lot so I read on. It
turned out that the peace of mind was limited to not worrying about the
freezer breaking down. But it was so cheap! The three year plan was only
£77! But hang on a minute! The first year is definitely covered by the
normal warranty (and if the freezer died during the subsequent months
I'd be looking at my consumer rights, since it is not a budget freezer.)
And the £77 is not a one-off payment; it is (as the tiny print implies
but doesn't explicitly state) an annual payment. So for £231 I would get
warranty for years two and three. And the price could increase: "We
reserve the right to alter the fee..." If payment is by direct debit
there's a £10 per annum reduction, presumably because you would continue
to pay during the second and third years without really being aware of it.
The warranty includes 'damage caused accidentally' (I just can't imagine
a likely scenario that would lead to a claim, having read through the
exclusions) but not the cost of spoiled food if the freezer breaks down
or there's a power cut. If the freezer is a write-off during the
warranty period and a new one is supplied the customer would have to pay
delivery charges, install the machine themselves, and dispose of the old
machine at their own cost.
£231 would go a long way towards the cost of a replacement freezer. That
would be with a statutory warranty of at least twelve months.
My experience of white goods extended warranties is that if the item
breaks down you have to wait hours for the phone to answer, then jump
through hoops during a very long phone call, then the repair man comes
many days later. We once had to wait ten working days without a washing
machine. That hardly brings peace of mind. Its better to use a trusted
local repair man. My experience of that is that the phone call lasts two
minutes, he comes the next day, and he charges SFA.

Bill
I have a Nationwide credit card that gives me an extra two years
warranty if I use it to pay for mainly electrical items. It does not
apply to all versions of the Nationwide card.
It is so bloody good that in about twenty years I've never had to claim
on it:-)
Derek

ARW used his keyboard to write :
When they stole my mates pickup they used a two truck. The next door
neighbour made the drivers of the tow truck a cup of tea.

--

Perhaps they (your mate) ought to move somewhere less troubled by such
things, a low crime area.

On 29/07/2018 07:40, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 29/07/18 04:17, Bill Wright wrote:
The new freezer came with an envelope containing the instructions and so
forth. There was a large label on the bag: REGISTER NOW!" This would
'activate the free one year guarantee'. This seems to do no more than
duplicate our statutory rights. In the bag was a glossy brochure
offering 'Peace of mind'. Peace of mind is worth a lot so I read on. It
turned out that the peace of mind was limited to not worrying about the
freezer breaking down. But it was so cheap! The three year plan was only
£77! But hang on a minute! The first year is definitely covered by the
normal warranty (and if the freezer died during the subsequent months
I'd be looking at my consumer rights, since it is not a budget freezer.)
And the £77 is not a one-off payment; it is (as the tiny print implies
but doesn't explicitly state) an annual payment. So for £231 I would get
warranty for years two and three. And the price could increase: "We
reserve the right to alter the fee..." If payment is by direct debit
there's a £10 per annum reduction, presumably because you would continue
to pay during the second and third years without really being aware of
it.
The warranty includes 'damage caused accidentally' (I just can't imagine
a likely scenario that would lead to a claim, having read through the
exclusions) but not the cost of spoiled food if the freezer breaks down
or there's a power cut. If the freezer is a write-off during the
warranty period and a new one is supplied the customer would have to pay
delivery charges, install the machine themselves, and dispose of the old
machine at their own cost.
£231 would go a long way towards the cost of a replacement freezer. That
would be with a statutory warranty of at least twelve months.
My experience of white goods extended warranties is that if the item
breaks down you have to wait hours for the phone to answer, then jump
through hoops during a very long phone call, then the repair man comes
many days later. We once had to wait ten working days without a washing
machine. That hardly brings peace of mind. Its better to use a trusted
local repair man. My experience of that is that the phone call lasts two
minutes, he comes the next day, and he charges SFA.

Bill

Our fridge-freezer died a few weeks ago on the then hottest weekend of
the year. It was just under 4 years old, and 2 years out of guarantee.
It was definitely not a budget appliance! On the Monday an email went to
Customer Support, asking why an expensive "reliable" machine had gone
wrong in such a short time. The email was answered by return and with
much concern. To cut a longish story short, I was offered a brand-new FF
at 50% discount, and a further year's guarantee (over the two years
standard) free of charge. I consider that very reasonable as, being
out-of-guarantee I could have been told to get lost.

One other point. Because we needed a fridge in the short term, on the
morning the FF failed I bought a budget one which works perfectly well,
but I have been totally unable to register it over the internet for its
one-year guarantee. I fill out the form and it just sits there
"confirming" the info endlessly. It's no more than I would get from my
consumer rights, anyway, so I gave up.

I had a US Robotics modem/answer phone that died during a storm. It was
well out of guarantee so I contacted them to ask if it could be
repaired. They said that their products had a six year warranty and to
send it back for examination and they replaced it for me.
I had an IBM Hard Disk that failed I thought was probably out of
warranty. I phoned them and they asked for its serial number saying that
they had a batch with a high failure rate. It turned out to be from that
batch and they replaced it.
Derek

On 29/07/2018 14:22, Bill Wright wrote:
On 29/07/2018 07:40, Jeff Layman wrote:

Our fridge-freezer died a few weeks ago on the then hottest weekend of
the year.

That's when they go wrong.

Bill
Ours once went wrong the night before we went on holiday. We called a
repair man who said it could not be repaired (£35 please). My wife went
round neigbours asking if they had any spare space and it all got spread
around.
Derek

Harry Bloomfield wrote:

ARW used his keyboard to write :

Perhaps they (your mate) ought to move somewhere less troubled by such
things, a low crime area.

You had 2.5x the crime of my area (in May 2018)

https://www.crime-statistics.co.uk/postcode/LS25%201PW
https://www.crime-statistics.co.uk/postcode/LE8%205PW

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 06:26:02 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:


Some can at times. One of my neighbours kids whose parents

Oh, no! More senile drivel from the Ozzietard! tsk

--
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"You really are a clueless pillock."
MID:

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 06:30:13 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:

One of the garage salers who resells what she finds at garage sales
deliberately puts a higher price on the stuff she flogs at the markets
so that the buy can have a warm inner glow when they drive her
price down before they buy it. And yes, she is a wog, italian.

WHY does nobody in real life want to listen to your senile stories, Rot? Do
people in real life, too, think you are a complete asshole? BG

--
pamela about Rot Speed:
"His off the cuff expertise demonstrates how little he knows..."
MID:

On 29/07/2018 21:30, Rod Speed wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
news
On 29/07/2018 14:35, Jim K wrote:
Bill Wright Wrote in message:
On 29/07/2018 10:12, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

If I see a genuine bargain, I can
buy it there and then.

I got 15 peaches for £1.50 on the market the other day.

Did you haggle for a cash discount?

Yes. He wanted three quid but he was a wog so haggling came naturally
to him.

One of the garage salers who resells what she finds at garage sales
deliberately puts a higher price on the stuff she flogs at the markets
so that the buy can have a warm inner glow when they drive her
price down before they buy it. And yes, she is a wog, italian.

You mean a wop.

--
Max Demian

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
Harry Bloomfield wrote:

ARW used his keyboard to write :

Perhaps they (your mate) ought to move somewhere less troubled by such
things, a low crime area.

You had 2.5x the crime of my area (in May 2018)

https://www.crime-statistics.co.uk/postcode/LS25%201PW
https://www.crime-statistics.co.uk/postcode/LE8%205PW

Ten times actually with burglary. Corse that in a tiny sample.

"Max Demian" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 29/07/2018 21:30, Rod Speed wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message
news
On 29/07/2018 14:35, Jim K wrote:
Bill Wright Wrote in message:
On 29/07/2018 10:12, Harry Bloomfield wrote:

If I see a genuine bargain, I can
buy it there and then.

I got 15 peaches for £1.50 on the market the other day.

Did you haggle for a cash discount?

Yes. He wanted three quid but he was a wog so haggling came naturally to
him.

One of the garage salers who resells what she finds at garage sales
deliberately puts a higher price on the stuff she flogs at the markets
so that the buy can have a warm inner glow when they drive her
price down before they buy it. And yes, she is a wog, italian.

You mean a wop.

Nope.

On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 08:53:04 +1000, cantankerous senile geezer Rot Speed
blabbered, again:


One of the garage salers who resells what she finds at garage sales
deliberately puts a higher price on the stuff she flogs at the markets
so that the buy can have a warm inner glow when they drive her
price down before they buy it. And yes, she is a wog, italian.

You mean a wop.

Nope.

Take your medication, senile idiot!

--
Cursitor Doom about Rot Speed:
"The man is a conspicuous and unashamed ignoramus."
MID:

On 29/07/2018 22:49, DerekF wrote:

Ours once went wrong the night before we went on holiday. We called a
repair man who said it could not be repaired (£35 please). My wife went
round neighbours asking if they had any spare space and it all got spread
around.
Derek

I was the kind soul who accommodated my neighbour's frozen food when
their freezer went wrong. By taking all my frozen stuff out of my
freezer and then packing it back in very neatly and with the very
minimum of wasted space, I managed to get nearly all of the neighbour's
frozen food in the space freed up.

But it wouldn't all go in so I asked what they were prepared to leave
out. The kids immediately said to leave the big tub of ice cream
because they would eat it now. :-)
The parents were a bit more practical and suggested the loaf of bread
and the carton of milk because they didn't cost much and took up a lot
of room, and were only there in case they ran short.

The parents won!

Jim

tim... wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

The relevant UK Statutory Instrument is "The Sale and Supply of Goods
to Consumers Regulations 2002" which claims to implement 1999/44/EC,
but makes no mention of any two year guarantee period.

because there is no such thing as an EU mandated warranty period

But the EU trumpets ...

"Under EU rules you always have the right
to a minimum 2-year guarantee at no cost"

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/shopping/guarantees-returns/index_en.htm

Jock Green wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

You had 2.5x the crime of my area (in May 2018)

Ten times actually with burglary. Corse that in a tiny sample.

Yes, I did think one month was a rather narrow window, but couldn't see
any way to expand it on crime-statistics.co.uk, this site gives two
years statistics which seems more sensible ...

http://www.ukcrimestats.com

On 29/07/2018 17:42, Pamela wrote:
I nearly lost all the
food in one of my freezers this summer and this gadget is a life
saver,

Normal people just go shopping every few days and get what they
need to last for a few days.

Unless you have a huge garden and grow your own veg and fruit,
there is no point in an oversized freezer full of things that
you have forgotten about anyway.

On 29/07/2018 16:11, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Best thing I've bought all year.


best thing I bought this year was a double cereal dispenser ...got a black
one and a white one and a single one in black ....



The carboard boxes normally have a little flap so you can just pour it
right out of the box !.

Who on earth transfers cereals into another container ?.