Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

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On 22/05/2018 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

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Install it where it is easy to get to; doesnt have to be high up, just
have a view of the satellite.
Get a Quad LNB, never know when you will want the extra outputs !

newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.



By checked €œ it can go there€� do you mean it is easily fixed there or that
plus it has an unobstructed view of the satellite as well ?

If you have other properties nearby they may have dishes that can give an
initial indication of the direction.

GH

On 22/05/18 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

I fitted a dish but couldn't for the life of me line it up. Ended up
paying a guy £30.

On 22/05/2018 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

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You'll need some sort of signal meter. It's very difficult without. I
should check local installer prices for supply and install/align before
you buy anything.

Bill

R D S laid this down on his screen :
I fitted a dish but couldn't for the life of me line it up. Ended up paying a
guy £30.

It is very easy - I use a dish when we go off in the caravan. Every
trip, I have to set it up and align it - it takes me just a couple of
minutes. If the dish will be near the TV, you can get the signal
strength on the TV.

Just be sure that where ever you intend installing it, has a clear view
of the satellite, unlike the Sky installer who first installed ours. He
fitted in looking up through the house eaves )

On 22/05/2018 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

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I fitted my own dish with the help of a cheap satellite meter to get a
fine alignment
Example
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Analog-Sa...oAAOSwh2xYBxxA

It needs a power source, either your receiver/TV or a battery. I used an
old 12V battery previously removed from my alarm panel.

There are various Youtube videos showing how to use it and align a dish.

Probably buy a quad LNB even if your TV only has 1 input.

Same dish as sky, same cluster of satellites. I fitted a slightly bigger
zone 2 dish in a zone 1 area.

The dish doesn't need to be mounted high on a wall as long as it can see
the satellite. However, if on a street side probably fit it high enough
so vandals cannot jump up and swing on it.

Go to www.dishpointer.com
Put your postcode into the search box
Select the satellite(s) 28.2E Astra
Press search
You will get a map with a line pointing to the satellite
Zoom in on the map, with your mouse pick up the green blob at the end of
the line and drag it to where you are going to position your dish.

Use webro WF100 cable, or equivalent.

Basic instructions on fitting an F plug.
http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/fplugs.htm
Probably ignore the advice about using grease.


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On 22/05/2018 22:33, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
R D S laid this down on his screen :
I fitted a dish but couldn't for the life of me line it up. Ended up
paying a guy £30.

It is very easy - I use a dish when we go off in the caravan. Every
trip, I have to set it up and align it - it takes me just a couple of
minutes. If the dish will be near the TV, you can get the signal
strength on the TV.

It's easier with a "satellite finder" - just an in-line signal strength
meter with an inbuilt, variable, attenuator - as there is not the lag of
updates to the on-screen signal strength delay.

SteveW

On 22/05/2018 23:44, Steve Walker wrote:
On 22/05/2018 22:33, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
R D S laid this down on his screen :
I fitted a dish but couldn't for the life of me line it up. Ended up
paying a guy £30.

It is very easy - I use a dish when we go off in the caravan. Every
trip, I have to set it up and align it - it takes me just a couple of
minutes. If the dish will be near the TV, you can get the signal
strength on the TV.

It's easier with a "satellite finder" - just an in-line signal strength
meter with an inbuilt, variable, attenuator - as there is not the lag of
updates to the on-screen signal strength delay.

SteveW

Yes but it's a nuisance there being umpteen satellites along the arc all
very close to 28E.

Bill

On 22/05/2018 22:17, R D S wrote:
On 22/05/18 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

I fitted a dish but couldn't for the life of me line it up. Ended up
paying a guy £30.

It is fairly trivial if you can use a compass and/or you can buy a
satellite beacon device that sits inline with the power feed from the TV
and gives you audio beeps and signal strength when you get near. If you
are close enough that someone can shout the signal reading from the TV
then you could probably dispense with the signal meter. I wasn't.

If you have a compass and know where it is in azimuth and knw your
longitude then it is a lot easier to search along a single axis first
and then optimise after you have got some sort of signal. The main beam
isn't always quite where the nominal calibration says it will be.

Hard bit is mounting the thing rigidly onto the wall at a height.
(although it will work fine mounted on the wall at any height provided
that it has a clear line of sight to the geostationary satellite)

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Martin Brown formulated on Wednesday :
Hard bit is mounting the thing rigidly onto the wall at a height.
(although it will work fine mounted on the wall at any height provided that
it has a clear line of sight to the geostationary satellite)

True - some of the early dish installers assumed a dish had to be as
high as possible. That is absolutely not the case at all. My dish I
installed at the back, just 6 feet off the ground, after Sky installed
it at the front, hidden from the sat by the house eaves. My first big
steerable dish I installed on the ground.

My 'sat finder', is a rather clever gadget which 'plugs' into the back
/ top edge of the dish. Its plastic, you dial in the sat you want to
find, then a combined compass/ level indicator is just aligned with the
bearing and azimuth marks, by adjusting the dish. The gadget gets me
within a few degrees, just a matter then of fine tweaking to find the
sat.

Beware of trying to use a compass if the dish is a steel one

Yes and make sure any trees nearby cannot grow up and obscure the sat view.
this is harder the lower you mount it of cores as shrubs soon end up as
trees!
Brian

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On 22/05/2018 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a conventional
terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am thinking about
running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never installed a dish
before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've checked and it can
go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a dormer window above
it). Any particular advice on hardware and installation? I'll be getting
a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

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Install it where it is easy to get to; doesnt have to be high up, just
have a view of the satellite.
Get a Quad LNB, never know when you will want the extra outputs !

You can get little gizmos to help you get the aim correct and the
polarisation correct quite cheaply.
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On 22/05/18 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a conventional
terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am thinking about
running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never installed a dish
before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've checked and it can
go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a dormer window above
it). Any particular advice on hardware and installation? I'll be getting
a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

I fitted a dish but couldn't for the life of me line it up. Ended up
paying a guy £30.

Also... Be careful what Freesat box you get. There tends to be loads of channels picked up and a lot of them need various cards. Seeing the wood from the trees can be very difficult so the user interface is key to making it usable

On 22/05/18 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

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Good plan.
TBH when I inherited a dish I thought it must be all very complex, but
provided its pointing in the right direction and you have decent LNBs,
its actually a piece of ****, as may be seen by the calibre of people
who install them.

I am sure there are gadgets out there the enable you to set the
direction and azimuth rather better than trial and error.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/slx-satel...er-meter/27154

looks one way to go.





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On 23/05/18 08:12, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/05/2018 22:17, R D S wrote:
On 22/05/18 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I
am thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science
(I've checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or
possibly on a dormer window above it). Any particular advice on
hardware and installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat
tuner.

I fitted a dish but couldn't for the life of me line it up. Ended up
paying a guy £30.

It is fairly trivial if you can use a compass

many smart phones have magnetic compass chips

and/or you can buy a
satellite beacon device that sits inline with the power feed from the TV
and gives you audio beeps and signal strength when you get near. If you
are close enough that someone can shout the signal reading from the TV
then you could probably dispense with the signal meter. I wasn't.

If you have a compass and know where it is in azimuth and knw your
longitude then it is a lot easier to search along a single axis first
and then optimise after you have got some sort of signal. The main beam
isn't always quite where the nominal calibration says it will be.

Hard bit is mounting the thing rigidly onto the wall at a height.
(although it will work fine mounted on the wall at any height provided
that it has a clear line of sight to the geostationary satellite)

+1000 to all that. A meter inline with the LNB feed is going to be the
best way to fund tune the angles once you have acquired any sort of
signal at all.

Do bear in mind there are more than one satellite up there, and the one
you want is astra on 28.2E

http://www.satsig.net/maps/satellite...uk-ireland.htm

tells you (given where you are) where to start pointing it




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The Natural Philosopher brought next idea :
Good plan.
TBH when I inherited a dish I thought it must be all very complex, but
provided its pointing in the right direction and you have decent LNBs, its
actually a piece of ****, as may be seen by the calibre of people who install
them.

I am sure there are gadgets out there the enable you to set the direction and
azimuth rather better than trial and error.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/slx-satel...er-meter/27154

looks one way to go.

Using an inline signal strength meter is the final step, the first step
is to get it pointing roughly at the sat, which is where so many
struggle.

I am surprised no company seems to have made a simple universal gadget,
which combines a compass, dial in heading calculator and azimuth
indicator, apart from the gadget which is only designed to fit and work
with my own portable dish.

It is not that complicated. You dial in your longitude, latitude and
the sat you want to align to, stick it in the socket on the back of the
dish and align it. Gets you within a few degrees, which is all that is
needed, to use a signal meter (like the above) for the final alignment.

"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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On 22/05/2018 22:17, R D S wrote:
On 22/05/18 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

I fitted a dish but couldn't for the life of me line it up. Ended up
paying a guy £30.

It is fairly trivial if you can use a compass and/or you can buy a
satellite beacon device that sits inline with the power feed from the TV
and gives you audio beeps and signal strength when you get near. If you
are close enough that someone can shout the signal reading from the TV
then you could probably dispense with the signal meter. I wasn't.

Even you could have called them on their mobile, stupid.

If you have a compass and know where it is in azimuth and knw your
longitude then it is a lot easier to search along a single axis first and
then optimise after you have got some sort of signal. The main beam isn't
always quite where the nominal calibration says it will be.

Hard bit is mounting the thing rigidly onto the wall at a height.
(although it will work fine mounted on the wall at any height provided
that it has a clear line of sight to the geostationary satellite)

On 23/05/2018 09:39, wrote:
Also... Be careful what Freesat box you get. There tends to be loads of channels picked up and a lot of them need various cards. Seeing the wood from the trees can be very difficult so the user interface is key to making it usable


This he said that he was buying a TV with a built in receiver?

In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
Do bear in mind there are more than one satellite up there, and the one
you want is astra on 28.2E

http://www.satsig.net/maps/satellite...uk-ireland.htm

tells you (given where you are) where to start pointing it

Many years ago, in the days of analogue (?) satellites, I travelled a
moderate distance to purchase an advertised low cost steerable dish
system. I always wondered if I was sold a collection of incompatible
junk, as a colleague who went to the same supplier a week or so later
was quoted a much higher price for a system.

I had to bodge the LNB mount to get it anywhere near the correct point
relative to the dish, and never did manage to get the thing to steer an
arc to get more than 2 satellites. Bringing in a professional firm,
sign-written van and all, just made it worse before they gave up.

When it worked it was good and I watched a lot of excellent concerts
broadcast by our continental neighbours, as well as getting the specific
satellites for Portuguese and other channels that the family wanted at
the time.

I decided that the steering mechanism wasn't ever going to be
satisfactory, so devised a plan to build something computer-controlled
to scan the sky and memorise satellite positions. Unfortunately, I only
got as far as acquiring two large old industrial printers as a source of
stepper motors before exhaustion overcame me.

The receiver died, the cables fell victim to an over-enthusiastic
strimmer, the large dish is still mounted on the garage and the two
printers are part of the junk collection in the shed that must be got to
the tip asap.

I've not bothered with satellites since.
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Bill

What they all said.

Plus.....,

Remember that what the dish can see (in terms of looking upwards) isnt what you might think.

Intuitively youd think the wok has to point at the bird, but it actually €œlooks€� at a much higher angle.


Also, do consider a pre loved sky digital box. These get a slightly different range of channels from a Freesat box, but they are roughly equivalent.

The non plus models will work fine without paying anything to Sky or even speaking to them (they will work without any Sky Card, but if you want local news to be accessible in the easiest possible way, then a local Sky Card thats no longer paying subscriptions will work.
I have such a box available Id part with for not a lot of beer tokens, else there are doubtless plenty in the bay of the flea. (If you are interested in mine, say so here initially and well figure out a way to take the discussion off line).

I dont know if you can use a Sky Plus box (Im sure it wouldnt record if you did).

Oh, make sure you use good quality cable in an unbroken run direct from LNB to STB.

Cheers

After serious thinking Bill wrote :
Many years ago, in the days of analogue (?) satellites, I travelled a
moderate distance to purchase an advertised low cost steerable dish system. I
always wondered if I was sold a collection of incompatible junk, as a
colleague who went to the same supplier a week or so later was quoted a much
higher price for a system.

Snap, I drove a 120 miles there and back to collect one. Mine worked
absolutely fine, though it was very difficult to tweak it spot on to
follow the satellite arc in the sky. As there were quite a few
obstructions around at low levels, I ended up struggling to mount it on
a scaffold pole, to get it above them.

It sort of worked well, until there was a local big lightning strike,
which knocked the LNB out, plus the receiver and a few other electronic
items, phones and even tracked back into the local exchange.

On Tue, 22 May 2018 21:11:11 +0100, newshound wrote:

I've never installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket
science (I've checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or
possibly on a dormer window above it).

A dish will fit anywhere but has to have direct line of sight to the
right bit of sky. B-) Which for the Freesat constellation of birds
is where the sun is at 0940 UTC around the equinoxes. At this time of
year the sun will be above that position but the azimuth at around
1040 BST will be right. So a place that is sun lit at that time with
plenty of space around the sun, particulary below, should be OK.

A meter that you can use at the dish makes alignment less painful.
Box/TV signal strength indicators are slugged and you have to be able
to see it. Having some one relay the the TV screen with all the lag
makes for frustration.

The normal smallish oval "Sky" dishes are offset, the LNB looks at
the dish at angle so the bit of sky it is actually seeing is higher
than the line at right angles to the dish. As a rough the dish is
almost vertical.

Use self amalgamating tape around any cable connections/joints
outside. If you do get a quad LNB either cap and tape up any unused
outputs or as you are running a cable already run the other three as
well.

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Cheers
Dave.

On 22/05/2018 21:11, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

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Thanks to all for the excellent and helpful advice. On checking more
closely, my first choice location is blocked by a tree but I still have
other good options. Will certainly go for a dual or quad LNB in these,
for future proofing!

On Wed, 23 May 2018 13:42:13 +0100, newshound wrote:

Will certainly go for a dual or quad LNB in these, for future proofing!

Go for a Quad (not Quattro). There are four groups of signals making
up a complete "sattelite signal". The reciever selects which it gets
from the LNB by adjusting the voltage feed and switching a tone
on/off.

A Quattro LNB lacks this control and has four dedicated outputs.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On 23/05/2018 09:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

TBH when I inherited a dish I thought it must be all very complex, but
provided its pointing in the right direction and you have decent LNBs,
its actually a piece of ****, as may be seen by the calibre of people
who install them.

Cheers.

Bill

On 23/05/2018 10:09, Harry Bloomfield wrote:
The Natural Philosopher brought next idea :
Good plan.
TBH when I inherited a dish I thought it must be all very complex, but
provided its pointing in the right direction and you have decent LNBs,
its actually a piece of ****, as may be seen by the calibre of people
who install them.

I am sure there are gadgets out there the enable you to set the
direction and azimuth rather better than trial and error.

https://www.screwfix.com/p/slx-satel...er-meter/27154

looks one way to go.

Using an inline signal strength meter is the final step, the first step
is to get it pointing roughly at the sat, which is where so many struggle.

I am surprised no company seems to have made a simple universal gadget,
which combines a compass, dial in heading calculator and azimuth
indicator, apart from the gadget which is only designed to fit and work
with my own portable dish.

The dishes I have fitted had scales pressed into the metal to set most
of it and only the azimuth was needed for initial alignment.

Azimuth is easy these days you just plot it on google and point it where
the line points. You don't need a compass any more.

The last one I did I used a TV and watched the signal strength while it
was on the lawn, many years ago though.

On 23/05/2018 13:42, newshound wrote:


Thanks to all for the excellent and helpful advice. On checking more
closely, my first choice location is blocked by a tree but I still have
other good options. Will certainly go for a dual or quad LNB in these,
for future proofing!

You will will probably find a quad cheaper as it is more popular.

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On 23/05/2018 13:42, newshound wrote:


Thanks to all for the excellent and helpful advice. On checking more
closely, my first choice location is blocked by a tree but I still have
other good options. Will certainly go for a dual or quad LNB in these,
for future proofing!


Another feature of the www.dishpointer.com site

Move the green blob with your mouse to the fixing location of the dish.
In the corner of the map image page there is a tick box option "show
obstacle (line of site checker)".
This will put a red blob on the line to the satellite.
Drag this red blob with your mouse to the position of a building or tree
and it will give you an indication on how high it has to be to block the
signal.

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On Tuesday, 22 May 2018 21:11:15 UTC+1, newshound wrote:
Wife wants a TV in one of her rooms. Our other two run off a
conventional terrestrial aerial but for various practical reasons I am
thinking about running this off a Freesat dish instead. I've never
installed a dish before, but it doesn't look like rocket science (I've
checked and it can go on the wall outside her window, or possibly on a
dormer window above it). Any particular advice on hardware and
installation? I'll be getting a smart TV with a freesat tuner.

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As others have said. Plus
You must have a satellite meter to line the dish up.
The dish position is hypersensitive.
The meter is the size of a match box and goes in series with the dish, removed when setting up completed.
You have no chance without it.
Easy with it.

https://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/sat...ers/cat4740074
£12
I think you can also buy a kit, (Dish, mounting bracket and meter.)

On 23/05/18 10:48, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2018 01:39:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Also... Be careful what Freesat box you get. There tends to be loads of channels picked up and a lot of them need various cards. Seeing the wood from the trees can be very difficult so the user interface is key to making it usable

Which Freesat channels need cards?

Viewing card - Freesat
https://www.freesat.co.uk/help/viewing-card/
Viewing card. Do I need a viewing card? No, as Freesat is a subscription-free
service, no viewing card is required. Back to help · Using your existing
satellite ...

A true Freesat receiver shows Freesat channels, it is possible to see other
channels that are not Freesat, but you won't see them with a standard set up of
the receiver.

Actually freesat is only 5 channels or so. But sky make free to air
channels avaialable on freeview part of their package and you dont need
a card or a subscription to see them


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On 23/05/18 14:48, Bill Wright wrote:
On 23/05/2018 09:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

TBH when I inherited a dish I thought it must be all very complex, but
provided its pointing in the right direction and you have decent LNBs,
its actually a piece of ****, as may be seen by the calibre of people
who install them.

Cheers.

Bill

Present company excepted of course.


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On 23/05/2018 19:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Actually freesat is only 5 channels or so. But sky makeÂ* free to air
channels avaialable on freeview part of their package and you dont need
a card or a subscription to see them



That's a very confused and fundamentally incorrect statement. The
Freeview lineup has 200 channels if you include the part time ones.

https://www.freesat.co.uk/whats/full-channel-list/

Bill

On 23/05/2018 19:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 23/05/18 14:48, Bill Wright wrote:
On 23/05/2018 09:42, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

TBH when I inherited a dish I thought it must be all very complex,
but provided its pointing in the right direction and you have decent
LNBs, its actually a piece of ****, as may be seen by the calibre of
people who install them.

Cheers.

Bill

Present company excepted of course.


Thank you.
Bill

On 23/05/2018 18:15, harry wrote:


As others have said. Plus
You must have a satellite meter to line the dish up.
The dish position is hypersensitive.
The meter is the size of a match box and goes in series with the dish, removed when setting up completed.
You have no chance without it.
Easy with it.

If it says you have a good signal but there's no reception do a re-tune.
From the channels you then get you will be able to work out what
satellite you've picked up (use Lyngsat) and from that which way you
need to move the dish.

Four egg sample. Standing behind the dish and looking towards the
satellites, if you get 13E Hotbird or 19E you need to move it to the
left and down a little bit.

Don't forget to set polarisation offset last of all.

Bill

On 23/05/18 22:38, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 23/05/18 10:48, Martin wrote:
On Wed, 23 May 2018 01:39:09 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Also... Be careful what Freesat box you get. There tends to be loads of
channels picked up and a lot of them need various cards. Seeing the
wood
from the trees can be very difficult so the user interface is key to
making
it usable

Which Freesat channels need cards?

Viewing card - Freesat
https://www.freesat.co.uk/help/viewing-card/
Viewing card. Do I need a viewing card? No, as Freesat is a
subscription-free
service, no viewing card is required. Back to help · Using your existing
satellite ...

A true Freesat receiver shows Freesat channels, it is possible to see
other
channels that are not Freesat, but you won't see them with a standard
set up
of
the receiver.

Actually freesat is only 5 channels or so.

Well it might be where you are. I get the same set of channels as on
Freeview, give or take one or two.

yeah. thats not what I meant.

there are some muxes directly managed by freesat but the majority seem
to be sky muxes.



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