On 15/08/2016 20:49, James Wilkinson wrote:

So if you keep something off road and don't tell them, they get upset.
But if you tell them it's off road when it isn't, that's ok.

Idiotic interpretation.

They get upset because you have not paid tax, not because you decide to
keep it off-road.

--
Rod

Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Only if you're a stupid pedant. Most people are sensible enough
to avoid parking in front of a DRIVEWAY, not a dropped kerb.

If there is no dropped kerb, then you are not causing any obstruction.

In fact I would intentionally park across a driveway that
has been built without a dropped kerb just to make a
point that the house owner is a cheapskate.

Charming.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:10:19 +0100, polygonum wrote:

On 15/08/2016 20:49, James Wilkinson wrote:

So if you keep something off road and don't tell them, they get upset.
But if you tell them it's off road when it isn't, that's ok.

Idiotic interpretation.

They get upset because you have not paid tax, not because you decide to
keep it off-road.

Typical. They only care about money, not safety. For example you get in more trouble for no tax than no MOT.

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In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 00:27:34 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:34:17 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:37:03 +0100, Chris French

wrote:

"NY" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:37:05 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power tool
such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere.
The car will get moved very quickly :-)

The road in front of your house is not yours.
Anyone can park there subject to yellow lines etc.

Does that include parking across your drive so you can't get your car in
or
out? I know that you can't lay claim to the road *opposite* or *either
side
of* your drive.

Well, you can't lay claim to the road, but it is a parking offence
to leave a vehicle parked across a dropped kerb (introduced in
the 2004 Traffic Management Act)

That's daft, it should be "across a driveway". I've seen plenty dropped
kerbs
left where there is no longer a driveway, or driveways where they haven't
bothered dropping the kerb.

Which is illegal to drive across.

Yet everyone does it. There are countless drives like that around here. It
is no more dangerous to anyone to drive over one than a dropped one.

Nothing to do with danger. A dropped kerb implies that the pavement has
been strengthened where it will be driven over, to protect the services
underneath. Not the case where it's not dropped.

Utter bull****. People park on pavements all the time. And pavements
are at least as strong as my driveway.

A few pavements notably in London have been strengthened to take park
cars, but mostly they haven't and the result is that they sink, slabs
break and become a serious hazard for the elderly.
--
bert

In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:18:20 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

On 15/08/2016 00:57, James Wilkinson wrote:

Only in the snobbiest towns would anyone do anything about you driving
over your own section of pavement. Why do you think those little ramps
sell so well?


If you find one of those hazards while you are driving you take it to
the tip.
If it reappears you get the council to take it to the tip and issue a fine.
There is enough litter about without little ramps being left about.

If you STOLE mine, I'd fit another and boobytrap it with explosives so
I could find out who did it.

No you wouldn't.
--
bert

In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 10:15:43 +0100, Bob Eager wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 23:06:34 -0700, harry wrote:

On Monday, 15 August 2016 01:37:54 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 00:27:34 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:34:17 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:37:03 +0100, Chris French

wrote:

"NY" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:37:05 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
wrote:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large
power tool such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of
twig flying everywhere.
The car will get moved very quickly :-)

The road in front of your house is not yours.
Anyone can park there subject to yellow lines etc.

Does that include parking across your drive so you can't get
your car in or out? I know that you can't lay claim to the road
*opposite* or *either side of* your drive.

Well, you can't lay claim to the road, but it is a parking
offence
to leave a vehicle parked across a dropped kerb (introduced in
the 2004 Traffic Management Act)

That's daft, it should be "across a driveway". I've seen plenty
dropped kerbs left where there is no longer a driveway, or
driveways where they haven't bothered dropping the kerb.

Which is illegal to drive across.

Yet everyone does it. There are countless drives like that around
here.
It is no more dangerous to anyone to drive over one than a dropped
one.

Nothing to do with danger. A dropped kerb implies that the pavement
has been strengthened where it will be driven over, to protect the
services underneath. Not the case where it's not dropped.

Yes, very obvious round here where the pavements are badly cracked
where people drive over them. Driveways aren't cracked!



That's due to trucks driving on the pavement.

No it's not. Trucks don't use that road (and there are too many poles at
roadside to let them reach the pavement). We're talking the whole length
of the pavement.

Then the pavement was done on the cheap.

It may well have been done in the 1930s when car ownership was very
limited.
--
bert

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:13:01 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Only if you're a stupid pedant. Most people are sensible enough
to avoid parking in front of a DRIVEWAY, not a dropped kerb.

If there is no dropped kerb, then you are not causing any obstruction.

In fact I would intentionally park across a driveway that
has been built without a dropped kerb just to make a
point that the house owner is a cheapskate.

Charming.

He'd find his car missing some parts.

--
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:17:56 +0100, bert wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 00:27:34 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:34:17 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
wrote:

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:37:03 +0100, Chris French

wrote:

"NY" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:37:05 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power tool
such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere.
The car will get moved very quickly :-)

The road in front of your house is not yours.
Anyone can park there subject to yellow lines etc.

Does that include parking across your drive so you can't get your car in
or
out? I know that you can't lay claim to the road *opposite* or *either
side
of* your drive.

Well, you can't lay claim to the road, but it is a parking offence
to leave a vehicle parked across a dropped kerb (introduced in
the 2004 Traffic Management Act)

That's daft, it should be "across a driveway". I've seen plenty dropped
kerbs
left where there is no longer a driveway, or driveways where they haven't
bothered dropping the kerb.

Which is illegal to drive across.

Yet everyone does it. There are countless drives like that around here. It
is no more dangerous to anyone to drive over one than a dropped one.

Nothing to do with danger. A dropped kerb implies that the pavement has
been strengthened where it will be driven over, to protect the services
underneath. Not the case where it's not dropped.

Utter bull****. People park on pavements all the time. And pavements
are at least as strong as my driveway.

A few pavements notably in London have been strengthened to take park
cars, but mostly they haven't and the result is that they sink, slabs
break and become a serious hazard for the elderly.

Hardly ever happens, and they should look where they're going. Anyway if there's car parked there, they can't trip on them :-)

--
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In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:37:13 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:37:03 +0100, Chris French
wrote:

"NY" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:37:05 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power tool
such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere.
The car will get moved very quickly :-)

The road in front of your house is not yours.
Anyone can park there subject to yellow lines etc.

Does that include parking across your drive so you can't get your car in
or
out? I know that you can't lay claim to the road *opposite* or *either
side
of* your drive.

Well, you can't lay claim to the road, but it is a parking offence
to leave a vehicle parked across a dropped kerb (introduced in
the 2004 Traffic Management Act)

That's daft, it should be "across a driveway". I've seen plenty dropped
kerbs left where there is no longer a driveway, or driveways where they
haven't bothered dropping the kerb.

The council can ticket it, or potentially get a vehicle removed.
Think for single driveways they tend not to enforce this (s it
may well be the householder or someone with permission.) Unless
the householder specifically complains about it.

(According to our local council when I spoke to them about it re
our driveway).

We quite often get people parking across our drive as we are near
the village shops and there is at times limited parking space.
Normally they are just stopping for a minute or two. Annoying if
you want to get out (though normally we aren't,) but not the end
of the world.

We did call the police one night when someone left their car
parked across it and as it happens my wife was on call (O&G
consultant, if she gets called in in the middle of the night,
it's because someone's birth is going pear shaped in a pretty
big way) . They managed after a while to locate the driver and
get them to move it.

If someone blocked the exit to my drive and I needed to get out
(especially as urgently as your wife), I'd reverse into the offending car
and shove it out of my way.

But its unlikely she drives a wreck of a car like
you do given that she needs something reliable.

Reversing a car slowly into the side of another won't damage it,
especially if it has a towbar.

Well tell me where you park yours and I'll come along and reverse mine
complete with towbar into it - low ratio reverse on a Defender will be
fun.
--
bert

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:29:19 +0100, bert wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:37:13 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:37:03 +0100, Chris French
wrote:

"NY" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:37:05 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power tool
such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere.
The car will get moved very quickly :-)

The road in front of your house is not yours.
Anyone can park there subject to yellow lines etc.

Does that include parking across your drive so you can't get your car in
or
out? I know that you can't lay claim to the road *opposite* or *either
side
of* your drive.

Well, you can't lay claim to the road, but it is a parking offence
to leave a vehicle parked across a dropped kerb (introduced in
the 2004 Traffic Management Act)

That's daft, it should be "across a driveway". I've seen plenty dropped
kerbs left where there is no longer a driveway, or driveways where they
haven't bothered dropping the kerb.

The council can ticket it, or potentially get a vehicle removed.
Think for single driveways they tend not to enforce this (s it
may well be the householder or someone with permission.) Unless
the householder specifically complains about it.

(According to our local council when I spoke to them about it re
our driveway).

We quite often get people parking across our drive as we are near
the village shops and there is at times limited parking space.
Normally they are just stopping for a minute or two. Annoying if
you want to get out (though normally we aren't,) but not the end
of the world.

We did call the police one night when someone left their car
parked across it and as it happens my wife was on call (O&G
consultant, if she gets called in in the middle of the night,
it's because someone's birth is going pear shaped in a pretty
big way) . They managed after a while to locate the driver and
get them to move it.

If someone blocked the exit to my drive and I needed to get out
(especially as urgently as your wife), I'd reverse into the offending car
and shove it out of my way.

But its unlikely she drives a wreck of a car like
you do given that she needs something reliable.

Reversing a car slowly into the side of another won't damage it,
especially if it has a towbar.

Well tell me where you park yours and I'll come along and reverse mine
complete with towbar into it - low ratio reverse on a Defender will be
fun.

Thanks for proving my point.

--
How come abbreviated is such a long word?

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:22:27 +0100, bert wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:18:20 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

On 15/08/2016 00:57, James Wilkinson wrote:

Only in the snobbiest towns would anyone do anything about you driving
over your own section of pavement. Why do you think those little ramps
sell so well?


If you find one of those hazards while you are driving you take it to
the tip.
If it reappears you get the council to take it to the tip and issue a fine.
There is enough litter about without little ramps being left about.

If you STOLE mine, I'd fit another and boobytrap it with explosives so
I could find out who did it.

No you wouldn't.

You have no idea what I do when angry.

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"Don't you remember what happened to your brother? He was killed on one! Why would you want to buy one when you could just have his?"

James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Only if you're a stupid pedant. Most people are sensible enough
to avoid parking in front of a DRIVEWAY, not a dropped kerb.

If there is no dropped kerb, then you are not causing any obstruction.

You are obstructing the DRIVEWAY. The lowered kerb is
a convenience for the householder only. You are a stupid
****ing retard and don't deserve to drive a car.

In fact I would intentionally park across a driveway that
has been built without a dropped kerb just to make a
point that the house owner is a cheapskate.

Do that to me and your car gets keyed (or worse). Grow up.

Then you would end up with a criminal record and I would choose
the most expensive body refinisher to fix my car at your expense.

Only if you had proof.

And the cameras in the car would provide that.

If there is NO DROPPED KERB, then you have no legal right
to build a drive and expect legal road users to park for your
convenience. Legal fact. Ask the police if you want confirmation.

Funny how everybody does it.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:52:11 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Only if you're a stupid pedant. Most people are sensible enough
to avoid parking in front of a DRIVEWAY, not a dropped kerb.

If there is no dropped kerb, then you are not causing any obstruction.

You are obstructing the DRIVEWAY. The lowered kerb is
a convenience for the householder only. You are a stupid
****ing retard and don't deserve to drive a car.

In fact I would intentionally park across a driveway that
has been built without a dropped kerb just to make a
point that the house owner is a cheapskate.

Do that to me and your car gets keyed (or worse). Grow up.

Then you would end up with a criminal record and I would choose
the most expensive body refinisher to fix my car at your expense.

Only if you had proof.

And the cameras in the car would provide that.

Most people don't have those, and if they do they often only run when the ignition is on. And they're easy to spot.

If there is NO DROPPED KERB, then you have no legal right
to build a drive and expect legal road users to park for your
convenience. Legal fact. Ask the police if you want confirmation.

Funny how everybody does it.



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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 02:06:24 +0100, Rod Speed
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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 22:37:13 +0100, Rod Speed

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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:37:03 +0100, Chris French
wrote:

"NY" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:37:05 UTC+1, James Wilkinson
wrote:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large
power
tool
such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere.
The car will get moved very quickly :-)

The road in front of your house is not yours.
Anyone can park there subject to yellow lines etc.

Does that include parking across your drive so you can't get
your
car
in
or
out? I know that you can't lay claim to the road *opposite* or
*either
side
of* your drive.

Well, you can't lay claim to the road, but it is a parking
offence
to leave a vehicle parked across a dropped kerb (introduced in
the 2004 Traffic Management Act)

That's daft, it should be "across a driveway". I've seen plenty
dropped
kerbs left where there is no longer a driveway, or driveways where
they
haven't bothered dropping the kerb.

The council can ticket it, or potentially get a vehicle removed.
Think for single driveways they tend not to enforce this (s it
may well be the householder or someone with permission.) Unless
the householder specifically complains about it.

(According to our local council when I spoke to them about it re
our driveway).

We quite often get people parking across our drive as we are near
the village shops and there is at times limited parking space.
Normally they are just stopping for a minute or two. Annoying if
you want to get out (though normally we aren't,) but not the end
of the world.

We did call the police one night when someone left their car
parked across it and as it happens my wife was on call (O&G
consultant, if she gets called in in the middle of the night,
it's because someone's birth is going pear shaped in a pretty
big way) . They managed after a while to locate the driver and
get them to move it.

If someone blocked the exit to my drive and I needed to get out
(especially as urgently as your wife), I'd reverse into the
offending
car
and shove it out of my way.

But its unlikely she drives a wreck of a car like
you do given that she needs something reliable.

Reversing a car slowly into the side of another won't damage it,
especially if it has a towbar.

But you wont be able to do that if you have backed your car into your
driveway.

I don't do stupid things like that

And wont work if you don't have a towbar.

The back of a car is still much stronger than the side.

Not necessarily. Modern plastic bumpers don't last long when you
use the car to shove another car out of the way sideways and the
lights are in fact much more expensive to replace than a new door.

I've never ad a problem when someone rams the back of me because they
weren't paying attention.

Sure but that's a separate issue to moving a car parked across your
driveway
that way.

It's slower so LESS damage to the back of the car.

Still much more damage than to the side of the car.

And it wouldn't work anyway. Even if you don't care about any damage
to your own car, the car shoved would end up in the middle of the road
and you would be legally liable for any damage that occurs to it.

It shouldn't have been illegally parked in the first place. It's now
illegally parked in a different place, so still the ****wit owner's fault.

Nope, legally your fault for shoving it there with your car.

And only someone with a wreck would use the back of the car to do that
anyway.

Not if they knew it was stronger than the sides.

The back of your own car isnt if you don't have a towbar.

Backs of cars are not designed to compress like the rest.

But have lights and plastic bumpers that are very easily damaged.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:53:03 +0100, "James Wilkinson"
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:12:45 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:58:42 +0100, "James Wilkinson"
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:51:32 +0100, Andrew wrote:
snip

And are illegal, so off to the tip they go. either that or chopped
into bits and chucked into the offending garden.

If they were illegal, they wouldn't be so prevalent.

They are and they aren't ....

"Leaving ‘things’ (including advertising boards) on the highway

According to the Highways Act 1980 ( Section 148 and Section 149) it
is an offence if ‘a person deposits any thing whatsoever on a highway
to the interruption of any user of the highway without lawful
authority or excuse or if the thing “constitutes a nuisance” ‘ or
constitutes a “danger to users of the highway (including a danger
caused by obstructing the view)” then they they can remove it without
delay and recover the cost of removal from the owner. This can be used
by councils (sometimes) to removed advertising boards."

https://pedestrianliberation.org/the-law-2/

That falls down at " to the interruption of any user of the highway " as the ramps don't get in anybody's way.

And there are loads round here, in council estates and decent areas.

And there are none here or anywhere I have seen because the cyclists
pull them up and throw them in the bushes.

Cheers, T i m

On 15/08/2016 20:53, James Wilkinson wrote:

That falls down at " to the interruption of any user of the highway " as
the ramps don't get in anybody's way.

They can most certainly cause problems such as preventing rainwater
running away down the gutter as it should. That could be interpreted as
causing an interruption.

--
Rod

"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:46:29 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

On 14/08/2016 19:15, ARW wrote:
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"James Wilkinson" writes:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power
tool such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere. The car will get moved very quickly :-)

Would love to know how to get rid of an abandoned car in the road,
where we are short of parking places.

When I was a young and stupid teenager I would have moved it for £20
cash and no questions asked.

This is one of those occasions when citizens should act, but
surreptitiously so the authorities aren't forced to act. Have a word in
the ear of the local cops, then late at night pull the car onto a
transporter (smash the glass to release the handbrake and knock it into
neutral) and take it away. The destination is your choice, but if it's
left somewhere where it's causing an obstruction the council will remove
it. A possibility is somewhere along a long straight narrow rural road.

Interesting, I'd never thought of that - a car, no matter what
immobilisers it has etc, has no way of preventing theft by towing.

That is just plain wrong. A decent GPS based remote alarm system will
prevent that because the owner will be notified and can prevent that.

Someone with a transporter could easily steal any car they liked.

Not when its got a decent GPS based remote alarm system.

There is nothing to prevent unlocking of all 4 wheels.

That's wrong too with a decent locking system on the gearshift etc.

Even putting the car onto dolly wheels so it can be dragged onto a
truck etc doesn't stop the car telling the world it is being dragged away.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:04:54 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:46:29 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

On 14/08/2016 19:15, ARW wrote:
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"James Wilkinson" writes:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power
tool such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere. The car will get moved very quickly :-)

Would love to know how to get rid of an abandoned car in the road,
where we are short of parking places.

When I was a young and stupid teenager I would have moved it for £20
cash and no questions asked.

This is one of those occasions when citizens should act, but
surreptitiously so the authorities aren't forced to act. Have a word in
the ear of the local cops, then late at night pull the car onto a
transporter (smash the glass to release the handbrake and knock it into
neutral) and take it away. The destination is your choice, but if it's
left somewhere where it's causing an obstruction the council will remove
it. A possibility is somewhere along a long straight narrow rural road.

Interesting, I'd never thought of that - a car, no matter what
immobilisers it has etc, has no way of preventing theft by towing.

That is just plain wrong. A decent GPS based remote alarm system will
prevent that because the owner will be notified and can prevent that.

Someone with a transporter could easily steal any car they liked.

Not when its got a decent GPS based remote alarm system.

Aren't hose only in top end cars?

There is nothing to prevent unlocking of all 4 wheels.

That's wrong too with a decent locking system on the gearshift etc.

Never heard of that.

Even putting the car onto dolly wheels so it can be dragged onto a
truck etc doesn't stop the car telling the world it is being dragged away.

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Her question was "If you are in a vacuum and someone calls your name, can you hear it?"
She thought for a time and then asked, "Is it on or off?"

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:00:17 +0100, polygonum wrote:

On 15/08/2016 20:53, James Wilkinson wrote:

That falls down at " to the interruption of any user of the highway " as
the ramps don't get in anybody's way.

They can most certainly cause problems such as preventing rainwater
running away down the gutter as it should. That could be interpreted as
causing an interruption.

It goes round them.

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god said:

"The Divergence of the B Field = 0
The Curl of the E Field + the partial time derivative of the B field = 0
The Divergence of the D field = the charge density
The Curl of the H field - the partial time derivative of the D field = the current density"

and there was light, and he saw that it was good and of constant speed.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:59:23 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 20:53:03 +0100, "James Wilkinson"
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:12:45 +0100, T i m wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:58:42 +0100, "James Wilkinson"
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 15:51:32 +0100, Andrew wrote:
snip

And are illegal, so off to the tip they go. either that or chopped
into bits and chucked into the offending garden.

If they were illegal, they wouldn't be so prevalent.

They are and they aren't ....

"Leaving €˜things (including advertising boards) on the highway

According to the Highways Act 1980 ( Section 148 and Section 149) it
is an offence if €˜a person deposits any thing whatsoever on a highway
to the interruption of any user of the highway without lawful
authority or excuse or if the thing €œconstitutes a nuisance€� €˜ or
constitutes a €œdanger to users of the highway (including a danger
caused by obstructing the view)€� then they they can remove it without
delay and recover the cost of removal from the owner. This can be used
by councils (sometimes) to removed advertising boards."

https://pedestrianliberation.org/the-law-2/

That falls down at " to the interruption of any user of the highway " as the ramps don't get in anybody's way.

And there are loads round here, in council estates and decent areas.

And there are none here or anywhere I have seen because the cyclists
pull them up and throw them in the bushes.

Cyclists are neanderthals. If I saw one doing that, I'd pick HIM up and throw him in the bushes. GORSE bushes.

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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:54:14 +0100, Chris French
wrote:

"James Wilkinson" Wrote in message:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:37:03 +0100, Chris French
wrote:

"NY" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:37:05 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power
tool
such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere.
The car will get moved very quickly :-)

The road in front of your house is not yours.
Anyone can park there subject to yellow lines etc.

Does that include parking across your drive so you can't get your car
in or
out? I know that you can't lay claim to the road *opposite* or *either
side
of* your drive.

Well, you can't lay claim to the road, but it is a parking offence
to leave a vehicle parked across a dropped kerb (introduced in
the 2004 Traffic Management Act)

That's daft, it should be "across a driveway". I've seen plenty dropped
kerbs left where there is no longer a driveway, or driveways where they
haven't bothered dropping the kerb.

Nope. It's not just driveways, it's also dropped kerbs for things
like pedestrians to cross the road.

I ignore those. They can walk round me.

The council can ticket it, or potentially get a vehicle removed.
Think for single driveways they tend not to enforce this (s it
may well be the householder or someone with permission.) Unless
the householder specifically complains about it.

(According to our local council when I spoke to them about it re
our driveway).

We quite often get people parking across our drive as we are near
the village shops and there is at times limited parking space.
Normally they are just stopping for a minute or two. Annoying if
you want to get out (though normally we aren't,) but not the end
of the world.

We did call the police one night when someone left their car
parked across it and as it happens my wife was on call (O&G
consultant, if she gets called in in the middle of the night,
it's because someone's birth is going pear shaped in a pretty
big way) . They managed after a while to locate the driver and
get them to move it.

If someone blocked the exit to my drive and I needed to get out
(especially as urgently as your wife), I'd reverse into the offending
car and shove it out of my way.

Yes James I'm sure you would, but:

1. I'm not sure how good at shifting a larger car a Yaris would be.
2. We'd rather not cause damage to her car.
3. You probably open yourself to the risk of criminal damage charges.

They started it. So surely it's like self defence?

Nope, nothing even remotely like self defence legally.

And have fun shifting a landcruiser with a yaris without damaging the yaris.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:33:52 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:54:14 +0100, Chris French
wrote:

"James Wilkinson" Wrote in message:
On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 21:37:03 +0100, Chris French
wrote:

"NY" Wrote in message:
"harry" wrote in message
...
On Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:37:05 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power
tool
such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere.
The car will get moved very quickly :-)

The road in front of your house is not yours.
Anyone can park there subject to yellow lines etc.

Does that include parking across your drive so you can't get your car
in or
out? I know that you can't lay claim to the road *opposite* or *either
side
of* your drive.

Well, you can't lay claim to the road, but it is a parking offence
to leave a vehicle parked across a dropped kerb (introduced in
the 2004 Traffic Management Act)

That's daft, it should be "across a driveway". I've seen plenty dropped
kerbs left where there is no longer a driveway, or driveways where they
haven't bothered dropping the kerb.

Nope. It's not just driveways, it's also dropped kerbs for things
like pedestrians to cross the road.

I ignore those. They can walk round me.

The council can ticket it, or potentially get a vehicle removed.
Think for single driveways they tend not to enforce this (s it
may well be the householder or someone with permission.) Unless
the householder specifically complains about it.

(According to our local council when I spoke to them about it re
our driveway).

We quite often get people parking across our drive as we are near
the village shops and there is at times limited parking space.
Normally they are just stopping for a minute or two. Annoying if
you want to get out (though normally we aren't,) but not the end
of the world.

We did call the police one night when someone left their car
parked across it and as it happens my wife was on call (O&G
consultant, if she gets called in in the middle of the night,
it's because someone's birth is going pear shaped in a pretty
big way) . They managed after a while to locate the driver and
get them to move it.

If someone blocked the exit to my drive and I needed to get out
(especially as urgently as your wife), I'd reverse into the offending
car and shove it out of my way.

Yes James I'm sure you would, but:

1. I'm not sure how good at shifting a larger car a Yaris would be.
2. We'd rather not cause damage to her car.
3. You probably open yourself to the risk of criminal damage charges.

They started it. So surely it's like self defence?

Nope, nothing even remotely like self defence legally.

I wasn't talking legally. We all know he law is usually wrong.

And have fun shifting a landcruiser with a yaris without damaging the yaris.

I don't have a Yaris. And most arseholes aren't in Landcdruisers.

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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:13:01 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Only if you're a stupid pedant. Most people are sensible enough
to avoid parking in front of a DRIVEWAY, not a dropped kerb.

If there is no dropped kerb, then you are not causing any obstruction.

In fact I would intentionally park across a driveway that
has been built without a dropped kerb just to make a
point that the house owner is a cheapskate.

Charming.

He'd find his car missing some parts.

And you will end up in jail when the car's cameras record you doing that.

"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:22:27 +0100, bert wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:18:20 +0100, dennis@home
wrote:

On 15/08/2016 00:57, James Wilkinson wrote:

Only in the snobbiest towns would anyone do anything about you driving
over your own section of pavement. Why do you think those little
ramps
sell so well?


If you find one of those hazards while you are driving you take it to
the tip.
If it reappears you get the council to take it to the tip and issue a
fine.
There is enough litter about without little ramps being left about.

If you STOLE mine, I'd fit another and boobytrap it with explosives so
I could find out who did it.

No you wouldn't.

You have no idea what I do when angry.

We know you never do that because you arent in jail.

"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:52:11 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Only if you're a stupid pedant. Most people are sensible enough
to avoid parking in front of a DRIVEWAY, not a dropped kerb.

If there is no dropped kerb, then you are not causing any
obstruction.

You are obstructing the DRIVEWAY. The lowered kerb is
a convenience for the householder only. You are a stupid
****ing retard and don't deserve to drive a car.

In fact I would intentionally park across a driveway that
has been built without a dropped kerb just to make a
point that the house owner is a cheapskate.

Do that to me and your car gets keyed (or worse). Grow up.

Then you would end up with a criminal record and I would choose
the most expensive body refinisher to fix my car at your expense.

Only if you had proof.

And the cameras in the car would provide that.

Most people don't have those,

Plenty do now.

and if they do they often only run when the ignition is on.

Wrong, as always.

And they're easy to spot.

Wrong, as always.

If there is NO DROPPED KERB, then you have no legal right
to build a drive and expect legal road users to park for your
convenience. Legal fact. Ask the police if you want confirmation.

Funny how everybody does it.

"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:04:54 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:46:29 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

On 14/08/2016 19:15, ARW wrote:
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"James Wilkinson" writes:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power
tool such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere. The car will get moved very quickly :-)

Would love to know how to get rid of an abandoned car in the road,
where we are short of parking places.

When I was a young and stupid teenager I would have moved it for £20
cash and no questions asked.

This is one of those occasions when citizens should act, but
surreptitiously so the authorities aren't forced to act. Have a word in
the ear of the local cops, then late at night pull the car onto a
transporter (smash the glass to release the handbrake and knock it into
neutral) and take it away. The destination is your choice, but if it's
left somewhere where it's causing an obstruction the council will
remove
it. A possibility is somewhere along a long straight narrow rural road.

Interesting, I'd never thought of that - a car, no matter what
immobilisers it has etc, has no way of preventing theft by towing.

That is just plain wrong. A decent GPS based remote alarm system will
prevent that because the owner will be notified and can prevent that.

Someone with a transporter could easily steal any car they liked.

Not when its got a decent GPS based remote alarm system.

Aren't hose only in top end cars?

Nope, completely trivial to add to any car for peanuts.

There is nothing to prevent unlocking of all 4 wheels.

That's wrong too with a decent locking system on the gearshift etc.

Never heard of that.

Then you need to get out more.

Even putting the car onto dolly wheels so it can be dragged onto a
truck etc doesn't stop the car telling the world it is being dragged
away.

On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:57:02 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:22:27 +0100, bert wrote:

In article , James Wilkinson
writes
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:18:20 +0100, dennis@home
wrote:

On 15/08/2016 00:57, James Wilkinson wrote:

Only in the snobbiest towns would anyone do anything about you driving
over your own section of pavement. Why do you think those little
ramps
sell so well?


If you find one of those hazards while you are driving you take it to
the tip.
If it reappears you get the council to take it to the tip and issue a
fine.
There is enough litter about without little ramps being left about.

If you STOLE mine, I'd fit another and boobytrap it with explosives so
I could find out who did it.

No you wouldn't.

You have no idea what I do when angry.

We know you never do that because you arent in jail.

I've never had anyone annoy me that much.

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:59:34 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:52:11 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Only if you're a stupid pedant. Most people are sensible enough
to avoid parking in front of a DRIVEWAY, not a dropped kerb.

If there is no dropped kerb, then you are not causing any
obstruction.

You are obstructing the DRIVEWAY. The lowered kerb is
a convenience for the householder only. You are a stupid
****ing retard and don't deserve to drive a car.

In fact I would intentionally park across a driveway that
has been built without a dropped kerb just to make a
point that the house owner is a cheapskate.

Do that to me and your car gets keyed (or worse). Grow up.

Then you would end up with a criminal record and I would choose
the most expensive body refinisher to fix my car at your expense.

Only if you had proof.

And the cameras in the car would provide that.

Most people don't have those,

Plenty do now.

Where "plenty" is 5%. I know of a in 1000 people round here with one.

and if they do they often only run when the ignition is on.

Wrong, as always.

No it isn't. It's the way I set mine. Most problems occur when someone hits you while you're driving about. Plus having it on all the time will either drain the battery or make people think it will, or they have annoying cars with cig sockets that go off with the ignition.

And they're easy to spot.

Wrong, as always.

Most folk just stick them to the window with the supplied sucker. Where do you hide yours?

If there is NO DROPPED KERB, then you have no legal right
to build a drive and expect legal road users to park for your
convenience. Legal fact. Ask the police if you want confirmation.

Funny how everybody does it.




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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 23:11:46 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:04:54 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:46:29 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote:

On 14/08/2016 19:15, ARW wrote:
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"James Wilkinson" writes:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power
tool such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere. The car will get moved very quickly :-)

Would love to know how to get rid of an abandoned car in the road,
where we are short of parking places.

When I was a young and stupid teenager I would have moved it for £20
cash and no questions asked.

This is one of those occasions when citizens should act, but
surreptitiously so the authorities aren't forced to act. Have a word in
the ear of the local cops, then late at night pull the car onto a
transporter (smash the glass to release the handbrake and knock it into
neutral) and take it away. The destination is your choice, but if it's
left somewhere where it's causing an obstruction the council will
remove
it. A possibility is somewhere along a long straight narrow rural road.

Interesting, I'd never thought of that - a car, no matter what
immobilisers it has etc, has no way of preventing theft by towing.

That is just plain wrong. A decent GPS based remote alarm system will
prevent that because the owner will be notified and can prevent that..

Someone with a transporter could easily steal any car they liked.

Not when its got a decent GPS based remote alarm system.

Aren't hose only in top end cars?

Nope, completely trivial to add to any car for peanuts.

Most don't bother doing that kind of upgrade.

There is nothing to prevent unlocking of all 4 wheels.

That's wrong too with a decent locking system on the gearshift etc.

Never heard of that.

Then you need to get out more.

Show me a few examples of it on production cars.

Even putting the car onto dolly wheels so it can be dragged onto a
truck etc doesn't stop the car telling the world it is being dragged
away.




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"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:59:34 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:52:11 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:

James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote
Andrew wrote
James Wilkinson wrote

Only if you're a stupid pedant. Most people are sensible enough
to avoid parking in front of a DRIVEWAY, not a dropped kerb.

If there is no dropped kerb, then you are not causing any
obstruction.

You are obstructing the DRIVEWAY. The lowered kerb is
a convenience for the householder only. You are a stupid
****ing retard and don't deserve to drive a car.

In fact I would intentionally park across a driveway that
has been built without a dropped kerb just to make a
point that the house owner is a cheapskate.

Do that to me and your car gets keyed (or worse). Grow up.

Then you would end up with a criminal record and I would choose
the most expensive body refinisher to fix my car at your expense.

Only if you had proof.

And the cameras in the car would provide that.

Most people don't have those,

Plenty do now.

Where "plenty" is 5%. I know of a in 1000 people round here with one.

Because that armpit of the world only has chavs like you who drive wrecks.

and if they do they often only run when the ignition is on.

Wrong, as always.

No it isn't.

Yes it is.

It's the way I set mine.

More fool you.

Most problems occur when someone hits you while you're driving about.

Most have enough of a clue to also have them record
what happens to the car when its parked as well.

Plus having it on all the time will either drain the battery

Wrong, as always.

or make people think it will,

Not when the instructions say it wont.

or they have annoying cars with cig sockets that go off with the ignition.

Irrelevant with built in ones.

And they're easy to spot.

Wrong, as always.

Most folk just stick them to the window with the supplied sucker. Where
do you hide yours?

Anywhere that isnt obvious so that if I am at fault
they can't use my own camera to prove I was at fault.

If there is NO DROPPED KERB, then you have no legal right
to build a drive and expect legal road users to park for your
convenience. Legal fact. Ask the police if you want confirmation.

Funny how everybody does it.

"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 23:11:46 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 22:04:54 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"James Wilkinson" wrote in message
news On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 01:46:29 +0100, Bill Wright

wrote:

On 14/08/2016 19:15, ARW wrote:
"Andrew Gabriel" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"James Wilkinson" writes:
If someone parks in front of your house, simply use a large power
tool such as a brush cutter, and start sending bits of twig flying
everywhere. The car will get moved very quickly :-)

Would love to know how to get rid of an abandoned car in the road,
where we are short of parking places.

When I was a young and stupid teenager I would have moved it for £20
cash and no questions asked.

This is one of those occasions when citizens should act, but
surreptitiously so the authorities aren't forced to act. Have a word
in
the ear of the local cops, then late at night pull the car onto a
transporter (smash the glass to release the handbrake and knock it
into
neutral) and take it away. The destination is your choice, but if
it's
left somewhere where it's causing an obstruction the council will
remove
it. A possibility is somewhere along a long straight narrow rural
road.

Interesting, I'd never thought of that - a car, no matter what
immobilisers it has etc, has no way of preventing theft by towing.

That is just plain wrong. A decent GPS based remote alarm system will
prevent that because the owner will be notified and can prevent that.

Someone with a transporter could easily steal any car they liked.

Not when its got a decent GPS based remote alarm system.

Aren't hose only in top end cars?

Nope, completely trivial to add to any car for peanuts.

Most don't bother doing that kind of upgrade.

Irrelevant.

There is nothing to prevent unlocking of all 4 wheels.

That's wrong too with a decent locking system on the gearshift etc.

Never heard of that.

Then you need to get out more.

Show me a few examples of it on production cars.

Production cars are irrelevant.

Even putting the car onto dolly wheels so it can be dragged onto a
truck etc doesn't stop the car telling the world it is being dragged
away.

In article ,
Andrew wrote:
On 15/08/2016 13:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim+ wrote:
Council however reported it to DVLA because it's SORNed and on the
public road, but DLVA did nothing.

I thought it was an offence to have a car on a public road without an
MOT?

It certainly is with no VED paid. Think it has to be insured too. But
no MOT may only be an offence if driven.

How do you insure a car without an MOT ?.

You can insure and 'tax' a car with only one day left on the MOT.

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En el artículo , Tim+
escribió:

But not as hard as it seems to be for some folk to realised when they're
being trolled.

Aye. Sigh.

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On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 00:47:47 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Andrew wrote:
On 15/08/2016 13:14, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim+ wrote:
Council however reported it to DVLA because it's SORNed and on the
public road, but DLVA did nothing.

I thought it was an offence to have a car on a public road without an
MOT?

It certainly is with no VED paid. Think it has to be insured too. But
no MOT may only be an offence if driven.

How do you insure a car without an MOT ?.

You can insure and 'tax' a car with only one day left on the MOT.

Surely you can insure a car without TAX or MOT?

You can only MOT a car (if driving it to the station) with Insurance.

You can only TAX a car if it has MOT and Insurance and the MOT must
still be current at the time of the start of the new TAX.

So, if the TAX runs out on the 31st of August and the MOT on (say) the
28th of August, you won't be able to re-tax it in August ready for
September because the MOT won't be valid for that period?

I had just that with a motorbike where the MOT expired on say the 20th
and the tax was due for the next month. As I wasn't riding it at that
time I left it until the beginning of the following month before
getting it MOT'd and then Taxing it from the beginning of that same
month. That way, next year I won't have to rush to get it MOT'd (if
I'm not riding it) but will still be able to renew the TAX. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

James Wilkinson explained on 15/08/2016 :
No it isn't. It's the way I set mine. Most problems occur when someone hits
you while you're driving about. Plus having it on all the time will either
drain the battery or make people think it will, or they have annoying cars
with cig sockets that go off with the ignition.

Mine as near as matters is invisible unless you know it is there, just
the lens visible. It has its own internal battery for when its car
power source is off and whilst off, it monitors the car for shock or
motion. Either condition then causes the cameras to begin recording.

On 15/08/2016 20:38, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:34:11 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

Tim+ wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
I
Correct, legally you can only cross a pavement at a dropped kerb. But
this is too hard for Jimbo to understand.


But not as hard as it seems to be for some folk to realised when
they're being trolled.

Tim

It was obvious from the very beginning.

Only to someone who doesn't have a clue.


I bet you get really ****ed when people take over your troll and talk
about stuff, while ignoring you.

On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 10:55:57 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

On 15/08/2016 20:38, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:34:11 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

Tim+ wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
I
Correct, legally you can only cross a pavement at a dropped kerb. But
this is too hard for Jimbo to understand.


But not as hard as it seems to be for some folk to realised when
they're being trolled.

Tim

It was obvious from the very beginning.

Only to someone who doesn't have a clue.


I bet you get really ****ed when people take over your troll and talk
about stuff, while ignoring you.

I see no ignoring.

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On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 10:55:57 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

On 15/08/2016 20:38, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 18:34:11 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:

Tim+ wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
I
Correct, legally you can only cross a pavement at a dropped kerb.
But this is too hard for Jimbo to understand.


But not as hard as it seems to be for some folk to realised when
they're being trolled.

Tim

It was obvious from the very beginning.

Only to someone who doesn't have a clue.


I bet you get really ****ed when people take over your troll and talk
about stuff, while ignoring you.

Yes, I'm enjoying ignoring him.



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On 8/15/2016 3:39 PM, Andrew wrote:

If there is NO DROPPED KERB, then you have no legal right to
build a drive and expect legal road users to park for your
convenience. Legal fact. Ask the police if you want confirmation.



Andrew is right .... if there is no dropped kerb, then they have not
applied for planning, and do not pay the increased council tax that goes
with it.
If they don't want to apply and don't want to pay - then anyone who
blocks their access is not in the wrong.

In article ,
T i m wrote:
You can insure and 'tax' a car with only one day left on the MOT.

Surely you can insure a car without TAX or MOT?

Yes.

You can only MOT a car (if driving it to the station) with Insurance.

I've never had an MOT station check the insurance.

You can only TAX a car if it has MOT and Insurance and the MOT must
still be current at the time of the start of the new TAX.

Yup.

But in the case of this dumped car, they could all have been valid when it
was dumped. Or not. And all run out at different times.

It's generally only relatively new cars where all come up together. With
bangers, most prefer them spaced out so you don't get one large bill.

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