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I said there's plenty of time to reverse the decision. I wonder when the
second referendum will be, and how many until "they" get the right result ?
Bliar seems to think all the outers have now changed their minds.


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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 12:58:15 +0100, bm wrote:

I said there's plenty of time to reverse the decision. I wonder when the
second referendum will be, and how many until "they" get the right
result ?
Bliar seems to think all the outers have now changed their minds.


I suspect they'll get an unpleasant shock if they pull a stunt like that.
My expectation would be for a Leave vote with an increased majority if
anything. So bring it on if you think you're hard enough!

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On 03/07/2016 13:09, Julian Barnes wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 12:58:15 +0100, bm wrote:

I said there's plenty of time to reverse the decision. I wonder when the
second referendum will be, and how many until "they" get the right
result ?
Bliar seems to think all the outers have now changed their minds.


I suspect they'll get an unpleasant shock if they pull a stunt like that.
My expectation would be for a Leave vote with an increased majority if
anything. So bring it on if you think you're hard enough!



There are quite a few people who voted Leave as a protest. They didn't
expect to win and didn't really understand the consequences.

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 13:51:12 +0100, GB wrote:

On 03/07/2016 13:09, Julian Barnes wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 12:58:15 +0100, bm wrote:

I said there's plenty of time to reverse the decision. I wonder when
the second referendum will be, and how many until "they" get the right
result ?
Bliar seems to think all the outers have now changed their minds.


I suspect they'll get an unpleasant shock if they pull a stunt like
that.
My expectation would be for a Leave vote with an increased majority if
anything. So bring it on if you think you're hard enough!



There are quite a few people who voted Leave as a protest. They didn't
expect to win and didn't really understand the consequences.

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


+1.

The biggest threat to Remain in a second referendum would be Bliar's
support.



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On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


That's why it will not happen.




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Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


That's why it will not happen.


a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory" and
Parliament will decide what to do.

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On 03/07/16 14:28, charles wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:


Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


That's why it will not happen.


a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory" and
Parliament will decide what to do.

Parliament already has.

That why Cameron resigned.

The Lefty****s can whinge all they like, but Big Money has already
decided to cut its losses and realign with the new reality. One market
shock is enough.

Remember the vast mass of Tory shires were strongly pro leave, even if
their MPs were not. My borough which spans three Tory safe seats was
60:40 to leave.

I am not staying that voting to stay in would handing the seats to UKIP,
but I dint think the Tory incumbents would be happy if their party did that.

Their line is going to be 'well personally I was slightly in favour of
staying, but the electorate of course said otherwise so I am with you here'

remain will do far far better in a referendum than in a general
election, because the remain seats are few and concentrated.

I,.e Scotland is remain, N I is remain. London Cambridge Oxford and
Norwich and Liverpool are remain. Almost everywhere else is leave

And that's a LOT of seats.



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On 03/07/16 15:32, pamela wrote:
On 14:28 3 Jul 2016, charles wrote:

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:


Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the
referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


That's why it will not happen.


a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory"
and Parliament will decide what to do.


Very true. The referendum debate was conducted with candidates
appearing to make promises but they had no authority to do that.

The outcome of the referendum doesn't even promise to reduce
immigration.

Brexit extremists seem to think all their wishes have come true.

total ignorant ********.

What brexit extremists? They only exist in the mind of the lefty ******ati.


All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.




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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/07/16 14:28, charles wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:


Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


That's why it will not happen.


a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory" and
Parliament will decide what to do.

Parliament already has.


That why Cameron resigned.


Cameron resigned within hours of the referendum result. Parliament hadn't
met to discuss the issue

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On 03/07/16 15:38, charles wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/07/16 14:28, charles wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?

That's why it will not happen.

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory" and
Parliament will decide what to do.

Parliament already has.


That why Cameron resigned.


Cameron resigned within hours of the referendum result. Parliament hadn't
met to discuss the issue

You don't understand how parliament *really* works do you?

Parliament does what it's told by and large.

Cameron was given his marching orders, and someone will be selected to
protect the interests of TPTB, however those powers have already decided
on brexit.


What is apparent if you look at the detail, is that there is now a
widening gap between commercial interests and the Left. Despite the
mobilisation of the whole Lefty-hate-fear-moral-high-ground machine,
people still voted leave.

The Left and political correctness aren't wooing the voters anymore.

It's probably the beginning of the end for them.



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On 03/07/16 15:43, Huge wrote:
On 2016-07-03, charles wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/07/16 14:28, charles wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?

That's why it will not happen.

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory" and
Parliament will decide what to do.

Parliament already has.


That why Cameron resigned.


Cameron resigned within hours of the referendum result. Parliament hadn't
met to discuss the issue


And still hasn't.


Do you really think they aren't talking to each other?

Bless!


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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 15:38:18 +0100, charles wrote:

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory" and
Parliament will decide what to do.


Parliament already has.


That why Cameron resigned.


Cameron resigned within hours of the referendum result. Parliament
hadn't met to discuss the issue


Indeed. Cameron resigned on the morning of the 24th. Parliament hadn't
sat since the 20th, when it was recalled for the day, primarily because
of the murder of an MP. Prior to that, it hadn't sat since the 15th.

From 3.30pm on the 27th, though, Parliament did discuss the outcome.

Here's the Hansard record of that discussion...
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Common...1606275000001/
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 16:16:26 +0100, pamela wrote:

On 15:38 3 Jul 2016, charles wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/07/16 14:28, charles wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the
referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?

That's why it will not happen.

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only
"advisory" and Parliament will decide what to do.

Parliament already has.


That why Cameron resigned.


Cameron resigned within hours of the referendum result.
Parliament hadn't met to discuss the issue


I tried to explain the situation to TNP but he doesn't seem
interested in any views that don't foresee the full implementation
of Brexit Max.


Unfortunately, TNP sees anyone who doesn't agree with him or believe
what he does as just a 'talking head' ... just a noise to be ignored.

Perhaps he thinks that if he denies the possibility of compromise
that it will somehow change how things turn out.


See above. 'Compromise' isn't actually in his vocabulary'.

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On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:09, Julian Barnes wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 12:58:15 +0100, bm wrote:

I said there's plenty of time to reverse the decision. I wonder when the
second referendum will be, and how many until "they" get the right
result ?
Bliar seems to think all the outers have now changed their minds.


I suspect they'll get an unpleasant shock if they pull a stunt like that.
My expectation would be for a Leave vote with an increased majority if
anything. So bring it on if you think you're hard enough!



There are quite a few people who voted Leave as a protest. They didn't
expect to win and didn't really understand the consequences.

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


The brexit crowd think it would be a bigger vote to leave so they can't
possibly mind there being a second referendum.

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On 03/07/2016 14:07, alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


I still haven't had anyone post a claim from stay that actually was a
lie yet.
Do you have one?





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On 03/07/2016 15:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/07/16 15:32, pamela wrote:
On 14:28 3 Jul 2016, charles wrote:

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the
referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?

That's why it will not happen.

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory"
and Parliament will decide what to do.


Very true. The referendum debate was conducted with candidates
appearing to make promises but they had no authority to do that.

The outcome of the referendum doesn't even promise to reduce
immigration.

Brexit extremists seem to think all their wishes have come true.

total ignorant ********.

What brexit extremists? They only exist in the mind of the lefty ******ati.


All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.





The will of the people was to leave the EU, there has not been a vote to
change immigration!

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Do you really think they aren't talking to each other?

Bless!



Of course they are talking to each other, that's why immigration has
been removed from the discussion and why it won't change.

The only "party" talking about immigration being reduced is ukip and
they aren't going anywhere.
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On 03/07/16 16:16, pamela wrote:
On 15:38 3 Jul 2016, charles wrote:

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/07/16 14:28, charles wrote:
In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the
referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?

That's why it will not happen.

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only
"advisory" and Parliament will decide what to do.

Parliament already has.


That why Cameron resigned.


Cameron resigned within hours of the referendum result.
Parliament hadn't met to discuss the issue


I tried to explain the situation to TNP but he doesn't seem
interested in any views that don't foresee the full implementation
of Brexit Max.

Dear Pamela, I was merely remarking on your naivete.

Camerons didn't have a brief post coital chat with his squeeze and say
'I think I am going to resign'

That decision was taken with reference to a considerable number of
people, and even if the house hadn't formally met, I can assure you that
a lot of people would have been involved in that decision, which might
even have been made as a contingency before the referendum took place.

Nearly all HOC votes are fixed and whipped before they take place, and
nearly all the discussion that precedes them is taken by informal
meetings between interested parties.

The fact that 'the house hasn't met' is therefore supremely irrelevant,
because you can bet your sweet bippy by the time it does, all the
decisions will have been already taken, the right people will have been
briefed with the right on message statements, and the illusion will be
of a 'sad, but united Tory Party, determined to deliver to the brave
people of England, the result that they voted for'.


Etc Etc.



Perhaps he thinks that if he denies the possibility of compromise
that it will somehow change how things turn out.


No, I don't believe in magic. That's for Lefty****s.

I am simply pointing out that you are in denial.
Perhaps you think that if you deny the possibility of full brexit that
it will somehow change how things turn out..?


Well you seem a bit wet behind the ears, so watch and see how politics
really works, as against all your 'theory'





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On Sunday, 3 July 2016 17:08:54 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/07/2016 14:07, alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


I still haven't had anyone post a claim from stay that actually was a
lie yet.
Do you have one?


There will be no EUSSR army.
Turks won't get free movement.
There will be no fiscal union.
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article om,
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On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:


So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


The brexit crowd think it would be a bigger vote to leave so they can't
possibly mind there being a second referendum.


You'll be paying for it, will you, Den?


BTW, remind me how many times elections have been rerun because the
losing side sulked about the result.


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pamela wrote
charles wrote
alan_m wrote
GB wrote


Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to
the referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


That's why it will not happen.


a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only
"advisory" and Parliament will decide what to do.


And it will decide to leave the EU, you watch.

Very true. The referendum debate was conducted with candidates
appearing to make promises but they had no authority to do that.


The outcome of the referendum doesn't even promise to reduce
immigration.


Brexit extremists seem to think all their wishes have come true.


More that they think things will be better with Britain out of the EU.
And they are correct about that with the issues they care about.
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On 03/07/16 15:32, pamela wrote:
On 14:28 3 Jul 2016, charles wrote:

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the
referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?

That's why it will not happen.

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory"
and Parliament will decide what to do.


Very true. The referendum debate was conducted with candidates
appearing to make promises but they had no authority to do that.

The outcome of the referendum doesn't even promise to reduce
immigration.

Brexit extremists seem to think all their wishes have come true.

total ignorant ********.

What brexit extremists? They only exist in the mind of the lefty
******ati.


All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.


But it might well not, just like with capital punishment
for the worst crime and voluntary euthanasia.

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Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to
the referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


I still haven't had anyone post a claim
from stay that actually was a lie yet.


You're lying thru your ****ing teeth with Bignell's claim
that the British economy would be DESTROYED alone.

Do you have one?


You got a handful and lied about all of them.
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On 03/07/2016 15:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 03/07/16 15:32, pamela wrote:
On 14:28 3 Jul 2016, charles wrote:

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the
referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?

That's why it will not happen.

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory"
and Parliament will decide what to do.

Very true. The referendum debate was conducted with candidates
appearing to make promises but they had no authority to do that.

The outcome of the referendum doesn't even promise to reduce
immigration.

Brexit extremists seem to think all their wishes have come true.

total ignorant ********.

What brexit extremists? They only exist in the mind of the lefty
******ati.


All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.





The will of the people was to leave the EU,


And quite a few of them did that because of immigration.

there has not been a vote to change immigration!


More of your lies.


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Do you really think they aren't talking to each other?

Bless!



Of course they are talking to each other, that's why immigration has been
removed from the discussion


More of your lies.

and why it won't change.


We'll see with the dregs of the EU...

The only "party" talking about immigration being reduced is ukip and they
aren't going anywhere.


Yes, they are, into political oblivion if Britain does
leave the EU and isnt stupid enough to agree to the
EU 4 freedoms to get a trade agreement with the EU.

If Britain is that stupid, UKIP will survive but will have
one hell of a problem with their main cash flow gone.



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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 13:07:38 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

The biggest threat to Remain in a second referendum would be Bliar's
support.


And don't forget Gordon Broon! As soon as they wheeled out that
dribbling, slack-jawed dunce I knew they'd blown it.
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 14:07:55 +0100, alan_m wrote:

On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


That's why it will not happen.


Another reason is it could result in *3* referendums altogether. In the
unlikely event Remain were to win next time, the score would be merely be
one-all so there'd have to be a decider.
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a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory" and
Parliament will decide what to do.


They've already clearly stated what they're going to do. It only remains
to sort out a timescale.
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All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.


The *really* big benefit of this is not so much curbing migration, but
being able to pull up the drawbridge altogether in the event of a
systemic collapse in Europe.
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On 03/07/2016 18:06, harry wrote:
On Sunday, 3 July 2016 17:08:54 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 03/07/2016 14:07, alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides


I still haven't had anyone post a claim from stay that actually was a
lie yet.
Do you have one?


There will be no EUSSR army.


Who said that?
The UK wants one.

Turks won't get free movement.


They won't get into the EU for the forseeable future, not in your
lifetime anyway.

There will be no fiscal union.


The UK has an opt out, they cannot force us to join.

So where are the lies?




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On 03/07/16 15:32, pamela wrote:
On 14:28 3 Jul 2016, charles wrote:

In article ,
alan_m wrote:
On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the
referendum, and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?

That's why it will not happen.

a scond referendum is not needed. The first was only "advisory"
and Parliament will decide what to do.

Very true. The referendum debate was conducted with candidates
appearing to make promises but they had no authority to do that.

The outcome of the referendum doesn't even promise to reduce
immigration.

Brexit extremists seem to think all their wishes have come true.

total ignorant ********.

What brexit extremists? They only exist in the mind of the lefty
******ati.


All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.





The will of the people was to leave the EU,


And quite a few of them did that because of immigration.


How many?
There is no way to know from the referendum.


there has not been a vote to change immigration!


More of your lies.


Stupid Aussie.

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All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.


The *really* big benefit of this is not so much curbing migration, but
being able to pull up the drawbridge altogether in the event of a
systemic collapse in Europe.


and flood the Tunnel?

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On 03/07/2016 18:21, Tim Streater wrote:
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dennis@home wrote:

On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:


So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


The brexit crowd think it would be a bigger vote to leave so they
can't possibly mind there being a second referendum.


You'll be paying for it, will you, Den?

BTW, remind me how many times elections have been rerun because the
losing side sulked about the result.


There have been a few where the vote was so close the government
couldn't form an effective government so a new election was called well
before full term.
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On Sun, 3 Jul 2016 21:31:22 +0100, dennis@home
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On 03/07/2016 18:06, harry wrote:


Turks won't get free movement.


They won't get into the EU for the forseeable future, not in your
lifetime anyway.


The 30th of June has come and gone, weren't they supposed to be
members by now?
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 17:42:10 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

No, I don't believe in magic. That's for Lefty****s.

I am simply pointing out that you are in denial.
Perhaps you think that if you deny the possibility of full brexit that
it will somehow change how things turn out..?


The entire foundation of Socialism is wishful thinking in one form or
another. Fortunately that cuts no ice with the majority of voters who are
(just about) still capable of critical thinking and require something a
good deal more substantial. Like figures that actually add-up for example.


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On 03/07/16 21:24, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 14:07:55 +0100, alan_m wrote:

On 03/07/2016 13:51, GB wrote:

Also, there were lots of porkies told in the run-up to the referendum,
and these are now being exposed.


Lies on both sides

So, who knows what a second referendum would bring?


That's why it will not happen.


Another reason is it could result in *3* referendums altogether. In the
unlikely event Remain were to win next time, the score would be merely be
one-all so there'd have to be a decider.

And a penalty shoot out.



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On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 17:07:09 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

The brexit crowd think it would be a bigger vote to leave so they can't
possibly mind there being a second referendum.


Go for it. It'd be hugely amusing to see the voters give you democracy-
haters a bloody nose.

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On 03/07/16 21:28, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 15:35:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.


The *really* big benefit of this is not so much curbing migration, but
being able to pull up the drawbridge altogether in the event of a
systemic collapse in Europe.

MMM. te EU will have to face the implications of a policy or liberal
tolerance developed in a time of rising affluence, when affluence looks
set to take a nosedive.


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On 03/07/16 21:35, charles wrote:
In article ,
Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 15:35:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


All we now have is a hope that immigration is now under a UK government
that can in theory proceed to reflect the will of the people.


The *really* big benefit of this is not so much curbing migration, but
being able to pull up the drawbridge altogether in the event of a
systemic collapse in Europe.


and flood the Tunnel?

Could do.

Fast E boats is what we need



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On 03/07/2016 12:09, Julian Barnes wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2016 12:58:15 +0100, bm wrote:

I said there's plenty of time to reverse the decision. I wonder when the
second referendum will be, and how many until "they" get the right
result ?
Bliar seems to think all the outers have now changed their minds.


I suspect they'll get an unpleasant shock if they pull a stunt like that.
My expectation would be for a Leave vote with an increased majority if
anything. So bring it on if you think you're hard enough!


I'm harder than you any day, but not next Monday tho.
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