Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 03/10/2015 15:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?


They might actually have bid a lot higher than that, and thought
themselves lucky that no-one bid any higher.
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On 03/10/2015 15:01, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

The photo does seem to hint at that. A photo from the side would have
made it clearer.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

People are greedy, stupid and hopeful in roughly equal measure. If you
want to see a working demonstration of this put it on FreeCycle - it'll
generate a frenzy of responses.

(Actually, I was like the winning buyer once - but only until I was
about 15/16 and realised that details are important and not to be
glossed over. I view myself as rather naive and a later developer so it
astounds me that others never seem to learn.)

--
Scott

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:01:50 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

--
*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

There are lots of the brain dead about.
I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.
Apparently didn't understand dimensions.
What happened to Darwins Law there then?

"harry" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:01:50 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And
thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

There are lots of the brain dead about.

Yep, specially those who used to work for one of the
most obvious socialist operations like the NHS and
then howl about socialism every chance they get.

I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.
Apparently didn't understand dimensions.
What happened to Darwins Law there then?

She likely had bred by then, stupid.

"harry" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:01:50 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And
thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

--
*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

There are lots of the brain dead about.
I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.

Probably was sold a budgie as a parrot.

Apparently didn't understand dimensions.
What happened to Darwins Law there then?

On 04/10/2015 08:54, harry wrote:


There are lots of the brain dead about.
I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.
Apparently didn't understand dimensions.
What happened to Darwins Law there then?


Being thick doesn't stop you breeding in the modern world.
How many kids have you got?

"harry" wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:01:50 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And
thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

--
*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

There are lots of the brain dead about.
I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.
Apparently didn't understand dimensions.

She'd make a good "Apprentice" candidate

tim

"tim....." wrote in message
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"harry" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:01:50 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid.
Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And
thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

--
*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

There are lots of the brain dead about.
I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.
Apparently didn't understand dimensions.

She'd make a good "Apprentice" candidate


I could tell you what one of them did on Friday at the MDs daughters new
house (a safe for work story).

--
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"harry" wrote in message
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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:01:50 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid.
Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And
thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

--
*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

There are lots of the brain dead about.
I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.
Apparently didn't understand dimensions.

She'd make a good "Apprentice" candidate


I could tell you what one of them did on Friday at the MDs daughters new
house (a safe for work story).

Damn

I knew missing out the "The" would bite me

so, try again:

She'd make a good "The Apprentice" candidate

tim

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On Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:01:50 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot
of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid.
Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And
thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

--
*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

There are lots of the brain dead about.
I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.
Apparently didn't understand dimensions.

She'd make a good "Apprentice" candidate


I could tell you what one of them did on Friday at the MDs daughters new
house (a safe for work story).

Damn

I knew missing out the "The" would bite me

so, try again:

She'd make a good "The Apprentice" candidate


I would be good on that programme.

When the gob****e says to me "you're fired" I would point out to him that I
was not actually employed but taking part in a game show to win a job and
therefore I cannot be fired.

--
Adam

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 15:01:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of..
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

Why not? Brand new, Full HD, 40" LCD sets can be had for around £250.
The average "person on the street" won't have a clue what rear
projection or DLP means. OK prices rise quite a bit by the 45" end of
the scale but it's the psychological £4.99 or £5.00 thing working on
40 and 45, bring in a bit of greed and all they see for new prices is
45" and £250.

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS. Despite the
actual word "film" being used five times in the description, along
with the phrase "APS system".

--
Cheers
Dave.

They do not know what back projection means?
Blimey, they been living on planet zob?
Brian

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"dennis@home" wrote in message
web.com...
On 04/10/2015 08:54, harry wrote:


There are lots of the brain dead about.
I put a parrot cage on free cycle with all the dimensions.
A silly cow turned up & then started bleating it was too big.
Apparently didn't understand dimensions.
What happened to Darwins Law there then?


Being thick doesn't stop you breeding in the modern world.

It certainly does not as you have a daughter.



--
Adam

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS. Despite the
actual word "film" being used five times in the description, along
with the phrase "APS system".

Bit cheeky selling that, isn't it? No APS film been made for some years
now, apparently.


I've sold coins dating back to 1670, they've not been legal tender for over
250 years but they still sold.

On 04/10/2015 13:41, Tim Streater wrote:
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS. Despite the
actual word "film" being used five times in the description, along
with the phrase "APS system".

Bit cheeky selling that, isn't it? No APS film been made for some years
now, apparently.


Bristol cameras appear to be selling it.

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 13:41:05 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed
when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS.

Bit cheeky selling that, isn't it? No APS film been made for some years
now, apparently.

So tell me, when did I sell it?

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Sunday, 4 October 2015 12:28:06 UTC+1, Dave Liquorice wrote:
But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?
Why not? Brand new, Full HD, 40" LCD sets can be had for around £250.

and 40 - 42" sets do go on ebay (sometimes) for £50 upwards.

Owain

In message , Tim Streater
writes
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 13:41:05 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed
when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS.
Bit cheeky selling that, isn't it? No APS film been made for some
years
now, apparently.

So tell me, when did I sell it?

Woss this Dave, you losing your marbles? I quote:

"I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS."

The clue was in the "I sold" bit.

But how long ago did he sell it?
--
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On Sun, 04 Oct 2015 17:55:42 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed
when they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS.

Bit cheeky selling that, isn't it? No APS film been made for some

years now, apparently.

So tell me, when did I sell it?

Woss this Dave, you losing your marbles?

Not at all, you are not reading what is written. The only information
given about the sale date is that it was some time in the past.

However that doesn't stop you accusing me of being cheeky by selling
a camera for which the film may no longer be available. Therefor you
must have some idea of when I sold the camera, either that or you are
making a false accusation.

The message was posted to illustrate that there are some daft buggers
on eBay who buy things without, apparently, understanding or reading
perfectly clear and factually correct item descriptions.

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Dave.

Tim Streater wrote:
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS. Despite the
actual word "film" being used five times in the description, along
with the phrase "APS system".

Bit cheeky selling that, isn't it? No APS film been made for some years
now, apparently.


People collect such things.

Plus, there may well be sources of (outdated?) APS film.

Like all hobbies, photography has followers who have 'niche' interests. I
met someone who collected those disc cameras. He had a stock of film and
the means to process it. He was experimenting with recycling the discs by
using bits of 35mm film.

Not my scene, I'm a normal radio amateur ;-)

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid. Not
bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And thought
they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?


It may be worth hanging on to it. Some 'old technology' brings silly money
once it becomes collectable.

On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 15:01:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

Was a surprising amount of interest in it, and it was bid to 50 quid.
Not bad considering I'd expected to have to FreeCycle it.

Winner said they'd pay on collection - and duly arrived today. And
thought they were getting an slim LCD type that would hang on a wall...

See how the second chance system works. Never used it before.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

This one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181876897371

TBH, I'm very unsurprised. You could have made it a LOT clearer in the
description and photos. Not everybody's familiar with "rear projection"
as a concept, and "DLP" is even more opaque.

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 15:01:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

Why not? Brand new, Full HD, 40" LCD sets can be had for around £250.

Yes they can. But that's not under 50 quid. If it had been faulty, perhaps
50 quid would have been OK. Would you expect to pick up a working 45" LCD
for 50 quid?

The average "person on the street" won't have a clue what rear
projection or DLP means.

Most on Freecycle seem to know the difference between a CRT set and LCD -
so I'd assumed those paying real money for something would know what
they're bidding on? And large screen rear projection sets were common
enough at one time.


OK prices rise quite a bit by the 45" end of
the scale but it's the psychological £4.99 or £5.00 thing working on
40 and 45, bring in a bit of greed and all they see for new prices is
45" and £250.

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS. Despite the
actual word "film" being used five times in the description, along
with the phrase "APS system".

Right. But I'd guess that would come under a collector's item - so I'd
expect even more the buyer to know the spec.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:25:34 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

This one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181876897371

Yes.

TBH, I'm very unsurprised. You could have made it a LOT clearer in the
description and photos. Not everybody's familiar with "rear projection"
as a concept, and "DLP" is even more opaque.

Then it's easy enough to ask the buyer a question if it's not clear to
you what you're bidding on. Especially if you wanted an LCD or plasma
specifically.

I think you're missing my point... There's a big flat-looking TV, with
something that you don't really understand. It's a cheap big flat TV,
right?

When you re-list it, take a side-on photo, and describe what it is - in
layman's language - and isn't.

On Monday, 5 October 2015 14:28:11 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 15:01:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

Why not? Brand new, Full HD, 40" LCD sets can be had for around £250.

Yes they can. But that's not under 50 quid. If it had been faulty, perhaps
50 quid would have been OK. Would you expect to pick up a working 45" LCD
for 50 quid?

The average "person on the street" won't have a clue what rear
projection or DLP means.

Most on Freecycle seem to know the difference between a CRT set and LCD -
so I'd assumed those paying real money for something would know what
they're bidding on? And large screen rear projection sets were common
enough at one time.


OK prices rise quite a bit by the 45" end of
the scale but it's the psychological £4.99 or £5.00 thing working on
40 and 45, bring in a bit of greed and all they see for new prices is
45" and £250.

I sold a camera via eBay, a Canon Ixus, buyer was rather miffed when
they got it to discover that it was not digital but APS. Despite the
actual word "film" being used five times in the description, along
with the phrase "APS system".

Right. But I'd guess that would come under a collector's item - so I'd
expect even more the buyer to know the spec.

Maybe like some on here that can't tell the difernce between digital and film.

In article ,
Adrian wrote:
On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:25:34 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

This one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181876897371

Yes.

TBH, I'm very unsurprised. You could have made it a LOT clearer in
the description and photos. Not everybody's familiar with "rear
projection" as a concept, and "DLP" is even more opaque.

Then it's easy enough to ask the buyer a question if it's not clear to
you what you're bidding on. Especially if you wanted an LCD or plasma
specifically.

I think you're missing my point... There's a big flat-looking TV, with
something that you don't really understand. It's a cheap big flat TV,
right?

With a very large base showing - unlike any LCD TV. And the same could
near enough apply to some widescreen CRT sets or indeed any TV which was
basically just a screen.

When you re-list it, take a side-on photo, and describe what it is - in
layman's language - and isn't.

Might take a side on pic, but love to know how you'd describe it. To
anyone with a grain of sense rear projector says exactly what it is.
Perhaps I should say it's a great ugly lump of a thing. Just what's needed
to get people interested. ;-)

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On 05/10/2015 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

With a very large base showing - unlike any LCD TV. And the same could
near enough apply to some widescreen CRT sets or indeed any TV which was
basically just a screen.

To me it doesn't look different to an LCD or plasma from those photos at
a glance. Remember, you're the one who has had the thing for years, the
people seeing your auction may never have seen or heard of what you've
got (I think I was aware of rear projection TV, but might have only seen
one in the flesh, and never your model). So yes, a side view would help.

On 05/10/2015 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Might take a side on pic, but love to know how you'd describe it. To
anyone with a grain of sense rear projector says exactly what it is.
Perhaps I should say it's a great ugly lump of a thing. Just what's needed
to get people interested. ;-)


I like to think that I've got a few grains of sense, but I don't have a
very clear concept of exactly what a rear projector TV is. I've heard
the term, and I've just had a look at Wikipedia - which didn't really
enlighten me very much.

So I'm not altogether surprised that some people didn't understand what
they were bidding for.
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Might take a side on pic, but love to know how you'd describe it.

Doesn't matter how you describe it, once you include a photo of it from
the side, nobody will want it :-P

In article ,
Roger Mills wrote:
On 05/10/2015 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Might take a side on pic, but love to know how you'd describe it. To
anyone with a grain of sense rear projector says exactly what it is.
Perhaps I should say it's a great ugly lump of a thing. Just what's needed
to get people interested. ;-)


I like to think that I've got a few grains of sense, but I don't have a
very clear concept of exactly what a rear projector TV is. I've heard
the term, and I've just had a look at Wikipedia - which didn't really
enlighten me very much.

So I'm not altogether surprised that some people didn't understand what
they were bidding for.

If you were interested in it and didn't understand what DLP rear
projection was, wouldn't you find out?

Or even Google the model if you didn't know it? The first hit here says
exactly what it is.

It's not like there was some flowery description designed to confuse. ;-)

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 15:01:41 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Had a Sagem DLP rear projection TV lying around which I wanted shot of.
Thought I'd try it on Ebay - collection only.

But what did rather surprise me was someone thinking they could buy a
working 45" widescreen TV for 50 quid?

Why not? Brand new, Full HD, 40" LCD sets can be had for around £250.

Yes they can. But that's not under 50 quid. If it had been faulty, perhaps
50 quid would have been OK. Would you expect to pick up a working 45" LCD
for 50 quid?

The average "person on the street" won't have a clue what rear
projection or DLP means.

Most on Freecycle seem to know the difference between a CRT set and LCD -
so I'd assumed those paying real money for something would know what
they're bidding on?

Stupid assumption. Plenty don't even know
the difference between LCD and plasma TVs.

And large screen rear projection sets were common enough at one time.

But plenty never were aware of those. You should have at least included a
photo of it from the side so it was obvious it wasn't a modern thin flat TV.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Adrian wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote

This one?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181876897371

Yes.

TBH, I'm very unsurprised. You could have made it a LOT clearer
in the description and photos. Not everybody's familiar with
"rear projection" as a concept, and "DLP" is even more opaque.

Then it's easy enough to ask the buyer a question if it's not clear to
you what you're bidding on. Especially if you wanted an LCD or plasma
specifically.

I think you're missing my point... There's a big flat-looking TV, with
something that you don't really understand. It's a cheap big flat TV,
right?

With a very large base showing - unlike any LCD TV.

**** all of that level of buyer would even be aware of that difference.

And the same could near enough apply to some widescreen
CRT sets or indeed any TV which was basically just a screen.

But if you had had enough of a clue to have included a
photo from the side, it would have been obvious that
it wasn’t a modern flat screen TV, either LCD or plasma.

Or you could have got real radical and said that explicitly too.

When you re-list it, take a side-on photo, and
describe what it is - in layman's language - and isn't.

Might take a side on pic,

You'd be a fool if you didn’t given that that is so easy to do.

but love to know how you'd describe it.

Note that this is not a modern flat screen LCD or plasma
TV, its an older much more bulky rear projection TV.

And include this link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear-p...ion_television

To anyone with a grain of sense rear projector says exactly what it is.

**** all of those buying a cheap TV on ebay would even
know what a rear projection TV is, let alone a DLP.

Perhaps I should say it's a great ugly lump of a thing.
Just what's needed to get people interested. ;-)

No point in getting those who want a flat screen LCD or plasma interested.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Roger Mills wrote:
On 05/10/2015 15:27, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


Might take a side on pic, but love to know how you'd describe it. To
anyone with a grain of sense rear projector says exactly what it is.
Perhaps I should say it's a great ugly lump of a thing. Just what's
needed
to get people interested. ;-)


I like to think that I've got a few grains of sense, but I don't have a
very clear concept of exactly what a rear projector TV is. I've heard
the term, and I've just had a look at Wikipedia - which didn't really
enlighten me very much.

So I'm not altogether surprised that some people didn't understand what
they were bidding for.

If you were interested in it and didn't understand what DLP rear
projection was, wouldn't you find out?

That sort of buyer doesn’t. They are so used to the fact that they
don’t have a clue about the technical terms used and that even
if they try looking stuff like rear projection TV up on the net, it
STILL means nothing to them.

That's why anyone with even half a clue includes a side picture
when selling something like a TV where so many very technaive
users will be looking at their TV on ebay.

Or even Google the model if you didn't know it?

That sort of individual doesn’t even know how to
google model numbers.

The first hit here says exactly what it is.

Not in a way that level of individual can understand it doesn’t.

And you should have included that link for those
that need more than just the side photo to decide
that it isn't the sort of TV that they are looking for.

In message , Rod Speed
writes
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

And large screen rear projection sets were common enough at one time.

But plenty never were aware of those.

OK, I'll confess. When Dave first posted, I had no idea what a rear
projection TV was. Having said that, if I saw something like that on
Freecycle, I would Google first.

--
Graeme

News wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote

And large screen rear projection sets were common enough at one time.

But plenty never were aware of those.

OK, I'll confess. When Dave first posted,
I had no idea what a rear projection TV was.

I did, but am aware that few who buy TVs know that they even exist.

Most don't even realise the difference between LCD and plasma.

Having said that, if I saw something like
that on Freecycle, I would Google first.

Me too, but the average ebay buyer of TVs doesn't.

On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 08:09:13 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
News wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote

And large screen rear projection sets were common enough at one time.

But plenty never were aware of those.

OK, I'll confess. When Dave first posted,
I had no idea what a rear projection TV was.

I did, but am aware that few who buy TVs know that they even exist.

How do you know that ?


Most don't even realise the difference between LCD and plasma.

Maybe they don;lt care or are waiting for you to describe the difernce to them and how it matters to them.


Having said that, if I saw something like
that on Freecycle, I would Google first.

Me too, but the average ebay buyer of TVs doesn't.

Well I think they shouldn't be bidding if they don't know what they are bidding on. But I guess that's a lot to expect.

whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
News wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote

And large screen rear projection sets were common enough at one time.

But plenty never were aware of those.

OK, I'll confess. When Dave first posted,
I had no idea what a rear projection TV was.

I did, but am aware that few who buy TVs know that they even exist.

How do you know that ?

How did I know what, what they are or how
many of those who buy TVs know that they exist ?

Most don't even realise the difference between LCD and plasma.

Maybe they don;lt care

Corse they don't.

or are waiting for you to describe the difernce
to them and how it matters to them.

Yes, some do.

Having said that, if I saw something like
that on Freecycle, I would Google first.

Me too, but the average ebay buyer of TVs doesn't.

Well I think they shouldn't be bidding if
they don't know what they are bidding on.

More fool you.

But I guess that's a lot to expect.

It is indeed with TVs.

In message ,
whisky-dave writes
On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 08:09:13 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
News wrote

I did, but am aware that few who buy TVs know that they even exist.

How do you know that ?

Were I to guess, I would side with Rod on this one.

Most don't even realise the difference between LCD and plasma.

Maybe they don;lt care or are waiting for you to describe the difernce
to them and how it matters to them.

And again. I don't know the difference, and have no particular interest
in finding out.

Me too, but the average ebay buyer of TVs doesn't.

Well I think they shouldn't be bidding if they don't know what they are
bidding on. But I guess that's a lot to expect.

A huge problem for eBay sellers. Buyers buy what they think they see,
not what they actually see, and then complain. Put details in the
description using text six inches high, and the average eBay buyer will
still not read it.
--
Graeme