For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

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"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple hand
held shield will do.

Mike

In article ,
Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Ah. That explains why you can't see the difference between various types
of lamps.

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On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It all a big conspiracy by elf'n'safty... you're no wimp, try it without.

(and when the nice lady in A&E mentions "arc eye", you can tell her not
to be silly, because you looked real close, and could not see any UV, so
obviously there was none there!)


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On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 16:33:56 -0000, "Muddymike"
wrote:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple hand
held shield will do.

Yurp, weld flash is no joke.

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:37:20 -0000, John Rumm wrote:

On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It all a big conspiracy by elf'n'safty... you're no wimp, try it without.

(and when the nice lady in A&E mentions "arc eye", you can tell her not
to be silly, because you looked real close, and could not see any UV, so
obviously there was none there!)

People tell you not to look at the sun, that does no harm either. I could believe that long term it might damage your eyes....

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:37:00 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Ah. That explains why you can't see the difference between various types
of lamps.

I have perfect eyesight according to doctors.

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On Saturday 07 December 2013 16:33 Muddymike wrote in uk.d-i-y:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple hand
held shield will do.

Mike

Particularly if you don't want to get a painful case of arc-eye and possible
long term eye damage!

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:37:40 -0000, Apellation Controlee wrote:

On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 16:33:56 -0000, "Muddymike"
wrote:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple hand
held shield will do.

Yurp, weld flash is no joke.

If it's from the UV, would you not also get sunburn on your face then? If you go out in the sun, your face gets burnt long before anything happens to your eyes.

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On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:33:56 -0000, Muddymike wrote:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple hand
held shield will do.

The trouble is you can't see the workpiece through it very easily. I'm talking about a single one off small job here, not welding all day.

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:46:18 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On Saturday 07 December 2013 16:33 Muddymike wrote in uk.d-i-y:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple hand
held shield will do.

Mike

Particularly if you don't want to get a painful case of arc-eye and possible
long term eye damage!

It doesn't look brighter than a lightbulb (this is a small welder), and UV would give me sunburn on my face before it damaged my eyes surely?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Ah. That explains why you can't see the difference between various types
of lamps.

It also explains why he's as thick as pig-****.



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On 07/12/2013 16:46, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?


ROFLMAO.

In message , The Medway Handyman
writes
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

Unfortunately yes.

He should carry a health warning, "only enter into conversation if
feeling like banging head against wall" Whose head is up to
debate..........


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"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:37:20 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It all a big conspiracy by elf'n'safty... you're no wimp, try it without.

(and when the nice lady in A&E mentions "arc eye", you can tell her not
to be silly, because you looked real close, and could not see any UV, so
obviously there was none there!)

People tell you not to look at the sun, that does no harm either. I could
believe that long term it might damage your eyes....



If you are intent on being a plonker and don't believe the warnings given
here by all means at you own risk go ahead and give your self arc eye. It is
VERY painful and as other have said can have lasting consequences.

But as an already reduced to one eyed Cyclops as I am, if you do, I think
that you are an utter fool and don't see why the NHS should be burdened with
idiots like you.

AWEM

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:52:51 -0000, bm wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Ah. That explains why you can't see the difference between various types
of lamps.

It also explains why he's as thick as pig-****.

I'm not the thick one around here. I can think for myself unlike you lot.

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:46:26 -0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

It was a sensible enough question. Note how I said "small arc welder for a small job" - are the effects only from long term exposure? I know for certain you don't get it in 2 minutes, because I've watched someone welding my car for a little.

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:03:11 -0000, Andrew Mawson wrote:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:37:20 -0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It all a big conspiracy by elf'n'safty... you're no wimp, try it without.

(and when the nice lady in A&E mentions "arc eye", you can tell her not
to be silly, because you looked real close, and could not see any UV, so
obviously there was none there!)

People tell you not to look at the sun, that does no harm either. I could
believe that long term it might damage your eyes....

If you are intent on being a plonker and don't believe the warnings given
here by all means at you own risk go ahead and give your self arc eye. It is
VERY painful and as other have said can have lasting consequences.

But as an already reduced to one eyed Cyclops as I am, if you do, I think
that you are an utter fool and don't see why the NHS should be burdened with
idiots like you.

Why not explain why and how quickly it happens instead of childish name calling? As I understand it, it's the UV light that's the problem. So why is it any worse than looking at the sun? Why won't you feel sunburn on your face first like you do on a hot summer's day? And how much welding do you have to do before it happens? Remember, I said "small arc welder for a small job".

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On 12/7/2013 11:58 AM, Bill wrote:
writes
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

Is this **** for real?

Unfortunately yes.

He should carry a health warning, "only enter into conversation if
feeling like banging head against wall" Whose head is up to
debate..........

No-one could be that aggressively dimwitted. He's probably sitting there
giggling at all the responses he gets.

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:46:26 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:37:40 -0000, Apellation Controlee
wrote:

On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 16:33:56 -0000, "Muddymike"
wrote:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message
news job, is a mask really necessary? The spark doesn't look any brighter
than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple
hand held shield will do.

Yurp, weld flash is no joke.

If it's from the UV, would you not also get sunburn on your face then?
If you go out in the sun, your face gets burnt long before anything
happens to your eyes.

Yes!

but DAMHIKT


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On 07/12/2013 17:12, S Viemeister wrote:
No-one could be that aggressively dimwitted. He's probably sitting there
giggling at all the responses he gets.

He regularly demonstrates all the appearances of exactly that level of
wittedness. Probably thinks that FlashBlock will protect his eyes.

One of the very few inhabitants of my killfile.

--
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:12:18 -0000, S Viemeister wrote:

On 12/7/2013 11:58 AM, Bill wrote:
writes
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb..

Is this **** for real?

Unfortunately yes.

He should carry a health warning, "only enter into conversation if
feeling like banging head against wall" Whose head is up to
debate..........

No-one could be that aggressively dimwitted. He's probably sitting there
giggling at all the responses he gets.

Nope, just asking a reasonable question. What exactly causes the problem, does it apply to a small welder, and how long before it happens?

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:16:04 -0000, The Nomad wrote:

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:46:26 +0000, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:37:40 -0000, Apellation Controlee
wrote:

On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 16:33:56 -0000, "Muddymike"
wrote:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message
news job, is a mask really necessary? The spark doesn't look any brighter
than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple
hand held shield will do.

Yurp, weld flash is no joke.

If it's from the UV, would you not also get sunburn on your face then?
If you go out in the sun, your face gets burnt long before anything
happens to your eyes.

Yes!

but DAMHIKT

If the answer is yes, then what is the problem? You stop welding when your face is red.

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The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

Well he's a real troll who seems to have you all dancing to his tune...

Tim

On 07/12/2013 17:20 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:12:18 -0000, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 12/7/2013 11:58 AM, Bill wrote:
writes
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really
necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

Is this **** for real?

Unfortunately yes.

He should carry a health warning, "only enter into conversation if
feeling like banging head against wall" Whose head is up to
debate..........

No-one could be that aggressively dimwitted. He's probably sitting there
giggling at all the responses he gets.

Nope, just asking a reasonable question. What exactly causes the
problem, does it apply to a small welder, and how long before it happens?

Why not try it and then let us know...?

--
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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:28:57 -0000, Tim+ wrote:

The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

Well he's a real troll who seems to have you all dancing to his tune...

Show me a dictionary where troll is defined as someone with differing opinions to the majority.

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In article ,
"Gefreiter Krueger" writes:
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:46:18 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On Saturday 07 December 2013 16:33 Muddymike wrote in uk.d-i-y:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple hand
held shield will do.

Mike

Particularly if you don't want to get a painful case of arc-eye and possible
long term eye damage!

It doesn't look brighter than a lightbulb (this is a small welder), and UV would give me sunburn on my face before it damaged my eyes surely?

You can't see how bright it is - it saturates the recepters.
You can't see the UV components at all.

Different UV wavelengths and intensities have different effects.

Many years ago when gyms might have had high-bay mercury vapour lamps,
one of the hazards was the outer bulb breaking (e.g. hit by a ball or
similar). The lamp seems to carry on working, but somewhat dimmer.

After about half an hour in the gym, typically just as the players
are leaving, they would start to detect stinging in their eyes. The
timing is such that showering was sometimes blamed. Later in the
day/evening, badly bloodshot eyes, and serious stinging. This was
all due to the UV exposure caused by the missing outer glass bulb
in the gym. UV exposure such as this is known to lead to early
onset cateracts, and a contributor to macular degeneration.

The lighting problem required a change to the design of mercury
vapour lamps. The wires inside the outer bulb were changed such
that they burn out on exposure to oxygen, so that a mercury vapour
lamp with a smashed outer bulb (which normally stops the UV) will
quickly burn out and stop the lamp working.

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:29:53 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:

On 07/12/2013 17:20 Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:12:18 -0000, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 12/7/2013 11:58 AM, Bill wrote:
writes
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

Is this **** for real?

Unfortunately yes.

He should carry a health warning, "only enter into conversation if
feeling like banging head against wall" Whose head is up to
debate..........

No-one could be that aggressively dimwitted. He's probably sitting there
giggling at all the responses he gets.

Nope, just asking a reasonable question. What exactly causes the
problem, does it apply to a small welder, and how long before it happens?

Why not try it and then let us know...?

And you lot call me a troll. The number of childish comments in here is ridiculous.

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:35:43 -0000, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

In article ,
"Gefreiter Krueger" writes:
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:46:18 -0000, Tim Watts wrote:

On Saturday 07 December 2013 16:33 Muddymike wrote in uk.d-i-y:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.

It is very necessary. You don't need anything fancy though. A simple hand
held shield will do.

Mike

Particularly if you don't want to get a painful case of arc-eye and possible
long term eye damage!

It doesn't look brighter than a lightbulb (this is a small welder), and UV would give me sunburn on my face before it damaged my eyes surely?

You can't see how bright it is - it saturates the recepters.

But I've been dazzled by things, and it wasn't dazzling. Perhaps it's because it's such a small point?

P.S. I ignored the "you must wear special glasses" when watching the solar eclipse around 2000, and never fell foul (fowl?) of anything.

You can't see the UV components at all.

Different UV wavelengths and intensities have different effects.

Many years ago when gyms might have had high-bay mercury vapour lamps,
one of the hazards was the outer bulb breaking (e.g. hit by a ball or
similar). The lamp seems to carry on working, but somewhat dimmer.

After about half an hour in the gym, typically just as the players
are leaving, they would start to detect stinging in their eyes. The
timing is such that showering was sometimes blamed. Later in the
day/evening, badly bloodshot eyes, and serious stinging. This was
all due to the UV exposure caused by the missing outer glass bulb
in the gym. UV exposure such as this is known to lead to early
onset cateracts, and a contributor to macular degeneration.

The lighting problem required a change to the design of mercury
vapour lamps. The wires inside the outer bulb were changed such
that they burn out on exposure to oxygen, so that a mercury vapour
lamp with a smashed outer bulb (which normally stops the UV) will
quickly burn out and stop the lamp working.

I see.

Well thanks for about the only sensible reply in the thread. I shall use a mask.

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On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.



yep, caught a case or arc-eye once from accidentally striking arc while
I was moving to get in better position ... hurts like hell.

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:44:06 -0000, Rick Hughes wrote:

On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.



yep, caught a case or arc-eye once from accidentally striking arc while
I was moving to get in better position ... hurts like hell.

Just from ONE arc for a few seconds? That can't be true. I've often watched people welding for a couple of minutes.

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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

No, he's a notorious troll.

He asks stupid questions and then argues with everyone who gives him the
correct answer. He's got an IQ of 5000 but he can't Google and has no common
sense.

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:28:57 -0000, Tim+
wrote:

The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary?
The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

Well he's a real troll who seems to have you all dancing to his tune...

Show me a dictionary where troll is defined as someone with differing
opinions to the majority.

That's not what's happening here. If the majority agreed with you, you'd
take the contrary position & start arguing that it's stupid to weld without
a mask. That's trolling.

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:44:06 -0000, Rick Hughes
wrote:

On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.



yep, caught a case or arc-eye once from accidentally striking arc while
I was moving to get in better position ... hurts like hell.

Just from ONE arc for a few seconds? That can't be true.

Well there's your answer - don't bother with a mask.

On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 18:15:54 -0000, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:


"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
...
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

No, he's a notorious troll.

He asks stupid questions and then argues with everyone who gives him the
correct answer. He's got an IQ of 5000 but he can't Google and has no common
sense.

I discuss. Just because you can't handle an opinion other than your own.

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 18:18:03 -0000, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:


"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:28:57 -0000, Tim+
wrote:

The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary?
The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.


Is this **** for real?

Well he's a real troll who seems to have you all dancing to his tune...

Show me a dictionary where troll is defined as someone with differing
opinions to the majority.

That's not what's happening here. If the majority agreed with you, you'd
take the contrary position & start arguing that it's stupid to weld without
a mask.

No I wouldn't. You see if I agree with something posted, I don't reply. Most don't. Or you just have hundred of posts saying "me too".

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On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 18:22:19 -0000, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:


"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:44:06 -0000, Rick Hughes
wrote:

On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary? The
spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright lightbulb.



yep, caught a case or arc-eye once from accidentally striking arc while
I was moving to get in better position ... hurts like hell.

Just from ONE arc for a few seconds? That can't be true.

Well there's your answer - don't bother with a mask.

I'm welding for more than a few seconds.

--
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A pessimist fears this is true.

In article ,
Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 17:44:06 -0000, Rick Hughes wrote:

On 07/12/2013 16:21, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
For a small arc welder for a small job, is a mask really necessary?
The spark doesn't look any brighter than starting at a bright
lightbulb.



yep, caught a case or arc-eye once from accidentally striking arc while
I was moving to get in better position ... hurts like hell.

Just from ONE arc for a few seconds? That can't be true. I've often
watched people welding for a couple of minutes.

but I suspect you would be much closer if you wer doing the welding
yourself.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message
news
yep, caught a case or arc-eye once from accidentally striking arc while
I was moving to get in better position ... hurts like hell.

Just from ONE arc for a few seconds? That can't be true.

Well there's your answer - don't bother with a mask.

I'm welding for more than a few seconds.

It'll be fine.