Hi all,

I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm wondering
if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to receive more
freeview channels than I could receive via a regular arial? (That is, to
say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a subscription...)

Thanks,

J

"JakeD" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm
wondering
if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to receive more
freeview channels than I could receive via a regular arial? (That is, to
say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a subscription...)

Thanks,

J
IMO no, you're presumably talking about freesat http://www.freesat.co.uk/
Not many channels, ~4 HD. No "Dave" on freesat but it's on freeview etc.

In message om, brass
monkey writes

"JakeD" wrote in message
.. .
Hi all,

I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm
wondering
if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to receive more
freeview channels than I could receive via a regular arial? (That is, to
say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a subscription...)

Thanks,

J
IMO no, you're presumably talking about freesat http://www.freesat.co.uk/
Not many channels, ~4 HD. No "Dave" on freesat but it's on freeview etc.

If you go for 'Free-to-air' satellite instead, you get a lot more
channels - but I doubt if you'll be particularly interested in many of
the additional ones. You still won't get some of the Freeview channels
(eg no Yesterday or Dave).
http://www.freesat.co.uk/what-you-get/our-channels
http://www.freesat.co.uk/files/2413/...Channel_Guide_
15.03.12.pdf

However, with Freesat, you have to enter a postcode, and that determines
which regional BBC, independent and other channels you get (although you
always get the regional BBCs in channels numbered in the 900s).
Free-to-air satellite doesn't need a postcode, and simply gives you the
lot, regardless of where you live.
http://www.lyngsat.com/Eutelsat-28A-...-1N-2A-2B.html
You will see that many of the channels are duplicated (multiplicated?),
and the only difference between them is the local content of the
adverts.

Between the two, Free-to-air probably a bit more fun, but it may need a
bit more know-how when doing the channel scanning on the receiver
(especially when it comes to editing and numbering the list of channels
it has found). Freesat (like Freeview) simply assigns the correct
default number for each channel.
--
Ian

Yes, but its called freesat and though there are more of them the quality is
not exactly top notch from the programming s standpoint. Lots of radio
though.
Brian

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"JakeD" wrote in message
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Hi all,

I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm
wondering
if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to receive more
freeview channels than I could receive via a regular arial? (That is, to
say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a subscription...)

Thanks,

J

"JakeD" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm
wondering
if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to receive more
freeview channels than I could receive via a regular arial? (That is, to
say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a subscription...)



If you get the full freeview service - absolutely not

If you get freeview Lite - possibly

tim

On 02/09/2012 10:42, tim..... wrote:

"JakeD" wrote in message
...
Hi all,

I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm
wondering
if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to receive more
freeview channels than I could receive via a regular arial? (That is, to
say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a subscription...)

If you get the full freeview service - absolutely not

If you get freeview Lite - possibly

I'd say Freesat probably it was worth it for the £30 cost of the dish
even if terrestrial DTV works the MPEG bitrate is higher on satellite.
Same applies in spades for digital radio channels. We hardly ever watch
TDTV since installing a satellite feed (lack of Dave notwithstanding).

(and you get some HD channels thrown in on satellite)

ISTR some of the latest terrestrial DTV boxes can do HD decoding if the
local transmitter supplies them but my older set cannot.

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Martin Brown

JakeD presented the following explanation :
Hi all,

I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm wondering
if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to receive more
freeview channels than I could receive via a regular arial? (That is, to
say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a subscription...)

Very much so, hundreds of channels all free to air[1] and on the same
satellite as Sky, but a considerable number of them are rubbish. It
might be worth your while getting an HD receiver, there are F to A HD
channels. FreeSat is the same system, but working to a restricted
spec..

[1] Free to air, rather than Freeview, which the digital via your
antenna.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

Martin Brown wrote in
:


I'd say Freesat probably it was worth it for the £30 cost of the dish
even if terrestrial DTV works the MPEG bitrate is higher on satellite.

Thanks to all for the replies. My neighbour gets freeview channels via his
regular TV arial. However, the picture often starts breaking up on certain
channels, particularly in the late evening. On some days he finds it
difficult to access any channels at all except for BBC News and the
Parliament channel. Would I experience the same problems using a dish and a
freesat box?

Thanks...

J

JakeD wrote:
Martin Brown wrote in
:


I'd say Freesat probably it was worth it for the £30 cost of the dish
even if terrestrial DTV works the MPEG bitrate is higher on satellite.

Thanks to all for the replies. My neighbour gets freeview channels via his
regular TV arial. However, the picture often starts breaking up on certain
channels, particularly in the late evening. On some days he finds it
difficult to access any channels at all except for BBC News and the
Parliament channel. Would I experience the same problems using a dish and a
freesat box?

No, but if the system isn't set up correctly, then you may suffer
problems in rain and snow.

You also need to be sure there are no trees in the line of sight between
the dish and the satellite.

However, if your neighbour had the correct aerial, correctly aimed, for
his Freeview installation, he wouldn't get the problem either. On
switchover, some aerials had to be replaced, as they were either out of
spec. or needed to be changed as the channel group had changed.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

In message , JakeD
writes
Martin Brown wrote in
:


I'd say Freesat probably it was worth it for the £30 cost of the dish
even if terrestrial DTV works the MPEG bitrate is higher on satellite.

Thanks to all for the replies. My neighbour gets freeview channels via his
regular TV arial. However, the picture often starts breaking up on certain
channels, particularly in the late evening. On some days he finds it
difficult to access any channels at all except for BBC News and the
Parliament channel. Would I experience the same problems using a dish and a
freesat box?

I you had said "could" instead of "would", the answer is "yes".
Otherwise, the answer is "maybe, or maybe not".

There must be a reason why your neighbour is having problems with his
Freeview. It's almost certain that the reason is that he is feeding a
poor signal to the TV set - but there could be several reasons for this.
Unless you and he live in an exceptionally bad area for TV reception,
it's almost certain that his problem can be cured. The fact that he has
Freeview problems is, in itself, no reason to make you decide to go for
satellite reception.
--
Ian

On Saturday, September 1, 2012 6:33:08 PM UTC+1, JakeD wrote:
Hi all,



I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm wondering

if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to receive more

freeview channels than I could receive via a regular arial? (That is, to

say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a subscription...)



Thanks,



J

Freesat is worth it for better quality than Freeview, and for the free HD channels that I believe sky still want 10 quid for. And the red button service is much better than on Freeview when it matters (only the Olympics so far !)
Of course the number of channels is nothing compared to Sky if you are willing to pay.
If you get free-to-air without the Freeview packaging, you miss out on a good EPG but will pull in various extras and a lot of junk !
Simon.

On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:34:06 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson wrote:

If you get free-to-air without the Freeview packaging, you miss out on
a good EPG but will pull in various extras and a lot of junk !

s/Freeview/Freesat/ ?

I think all Freesat boxes offer an "Other Satellite" menu where you can
access a few extra channels (Sky News for example) that don't appear in
the Freesat EPG and also are worth the effort. There are a number of
foreign langauage/country channels as well.

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:34:06 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson wrote:

If you get free-to-air without the Freeview packaging, you miss out on
a good EPG but will pull in various extras and a lot of junk !

s/Freeview/Freesat/ ?

I think all Freesat boxes offer an "Other Satellite" menu where you can
access a few extra channels (Sky News for example) that don't appear in
the Freesat EPG and also are worth the effort. There are a number of
foreign langauage/country channels as well.

I've found that if you forget to tell my Bush Freesat box the postcode,
you can get all sorts of strange "local" stations.

The "Other Satellites" option might be useful if ICBA to find out how to
work it.

--
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John.

On 02/09/2012 19:14, JakeD wrote:
Martin Brown wrote in
:

I'd say Freesat probably it was worth it for the £30 cost of the dish
even if terrestrial DTV works the MPEG bitrate is higher on satellite.

Thanks to all for the replies. My neighbour gets freeview channels via his
regular TV arial. However, the picture often starts breaking up on certain
channels, particularly in the late evening. On some days he finds it
difficult to access any channels at all except for BBC News and the
Parliament channel. Would I experience the same problems using a dish and a
freesat box?

Only when it is throwing it down with rain at a rate that also implies
sudden and catastrophic mains disconnect due to lighting strikes to
nearby pylons. A thick enough cloud and torrential rain can block the
signal but if that happens you would be well advised to go and boil a
kettle and fill a Thermos - the mains will go down soon afterwards.

We lose DABradio, TDTV (certain channels) and Freesat in that order with
increasing amounts of rain falling.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

In message , John Williamson
writes



I've found that if you forget to tell my Bush Freesat box the postcode,
you can get all sorts of strange "local" stations.

Any idea which model it is? I've got one, and from what I could see, it
definitely did need a post code. If there's a fiddle, I'd like to try
it!

I'm in S Bucks, but I like to watch the North East BBC and ITV local
news. With Freesat, on channels 101 and 103, you get the BBC1 and ITV1
channels appropriate to your postcode. Although you also get all the
other regional BBC1s on channel numbers in the 900s, the only other ITV1
region is London, on 977.

So.....
In order to get both the NE regional BBC1 and ITV1 plus the correct ones
for London, I entered the Newcastle code NE1 1AA. The NE BBC and ITV
then appear on channels 101 and 103, and I can then still watch London
BBC1 and ITV1 on 950 and 977.

This seems to be one of the most comprehensive lists of all the channels
available on Freesat:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...els_on_Freesat

Of course, on Free-to-air sat, you get all the regional ITV channels.




--
Ian

In message , Martin Brown
writes
On 02/09/2012 19:14, JakeD wrote:
Martin Brown wrote in
:

I'd say Freesat probably it was worth it for the £30 cost of the dish
even if terrestrial DTV works the MPEG bitrate is higher on satellite.

Thanks to all for the replies. My neighbour gets freeview channels via his
regular TV arial. However, the picture often starts breaking up on certain
channels, particularly in the late evening. On some days he finds it
difficult to access any channels at all except for BBC News and the
Parliament channel. Would I experience the same problems using a dish and a
freesat box?

Only when it is throwing it down with rain at a rate that also implies
sudden and catastrophic mains disconnect due to lighting strikes to
nearby pylons. A thick enough cloud and torrential rain can block the
signal but if that happens you would be well advised to go and boil a
kettle and fill a Thermos - the mains will go down soon afterwards.

We lose DABradio, TDTV (certain channels) and Freesat in that order
with increasing amounts of rain falling.

Rain in itself (even torrential) - has negligible effect on the strength
of VHF and UHF radio/TV signals. However, it can certainly affect
satellite signals.
--
Ian

In message , John Williamson
writes
JakeD wrote:
Martin Brown wrote in
:
I'd say Freesat probably it was worth it for the £30 cost of the
dish even if terrestrial DTV works the MPEG bitrate is higher on
satellite.
Thanks to all for the replies. My neighbour gets freeview channels
via his regular TV arial. However, the picture often starts breaking
up on certain channels, particularly in the late evening. On some
days he finds it difficult to access any channels at all except for
BBC News and the Parliament channel. Would I experience the same
problems using a dish and a freesat box?
No, but if the system isn't set up correctly, then you may suffer
problems in rain and snow.

You also need to be sure there are no trees in the line of sight
between the dish and the satellite.

However, if your neighbour had the correct aerial, correctly aimed, for
his Freeview installation, he wouldn't get the problem either. On
switchover, some aerials had to be replaced, as they were either out of
spec. or needed to be changed as the channel group had changed.


Reminds mew of the time we spent an enjoyable afternoon in a little
village in Lombok watching the locals cutting down a tree for us after
the dickhead who did the survey hadn't noticed the firkin great tree
obscuring the line of sight to the next dish down the way

A grand time was had by all except for the local telephone operator,
whose tools of his trade (telephone wires) were inextricably intertwined
with the branches


--
geoff

John Williamson wrote :
I've found that if you forget to tell my Bush Freesat box the postcode, you
can get all sorts of strange "local" stations.

The more generalised none FreeSat boxes give you a choice of all of the
regional channels, you get all of the choices of BBC North, BBC South
West, ITV Yorkshire, ITV Tyne Tees etc.. Plus all of the none scrambled
HD channels and many more +1 Hour channels than there are on Freeview
terrestrial. Some channels such as History, Dave are missing on Sat,
but there are lots more channels which are on Sat, which are not on
Freeview.

--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk

"JakeD" wrote in message
...
Martin Brown wrote in
:


I'd say Freesat probably it was worth it for the £30 cost of the dish
even if terrestrial DTV works the MPEG bitrate is higher on satellite.

Thanks to all for the replies. My neighbour gets freeview channels via his
regular TV arial. However, the picture often starts breaking up on certain
channels, particularly in the late evening. On some days he finds it
difficult to access any channels at all except for BBC News and the
Parliament channel. Would I experience the same problems using a dish and
a
freesat box?


go he

http://www.wolfbane.com/cgi-bin/tvd.exe

type in your postcode and see how strong your signal should be.

"John Williamson" wrote in message
...
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:34:06 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson wrote:

If you get free-to-air without the Freeview packaging, you miss out on a
good EPG but will pull in various extras and a lot of junk !

s/Freeview/Freesat/ ?

I think all Freesat boxes offer an "Other Satellite" menu where you can
access a few extra channels (Sky News for example) that don't appear in
the Freesat EPG and also are worth the effort. There are a number of
foreign langauage/country channels as well.

I've found that if you forget to tell my Bush Freesat box the postcode,
you can get all sorts of strange "local" stations.


I just pretended that I (still) lived in London.

I can't be doing with local news about farmer Joe's cow

tim

In article ,
JakeD wrote:
Hi all,

I've recently moved to a new area that doesn't have cable. So I'm
wondering if, by installing a satellite dish, would I be able to
receive more freeview channels than I could receive via a regular
arial? (That is, to say, without paying the likes of Sky TV a
subscription...)

Do you actually mean FreeView� or just free to view?

I have a non FreeSat satellite receiver with a dish rotator and can
receive many thousands of channels. How many you'd want to watch is up to
you, of course. I've not checked, but at least most of the FreeView ones
are there.

Are you in an area where the full compliment of FreeView progs ain't
available? And never will be?

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

So you'd rather hear about knifings in a London suburb instead? Give
me the cow any day!

On Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:53:17 +0100, "tim....."
wrote:

I just pretended that I (still) lived in London.

I can't be doing with local news about farmer Joe's cow
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On Sunday, September 2, 2012 8:43:09 PM UTC+1, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:34:06 -0700 (PDT), sm_jamieson wrote:



If you get free-to-air without the Freeview packaging, you miss out on

a good EPG but will pull in various extras and a lot of junk !



s/Freeview/Freesat/ ?



I think all Freesat boxes offer an "Other Satellite" menu where you can

access a few extra channels (Sky News for example) that don't appear in

the Freesat EPG and also are worth the effort. There are a number of

foreign langauage/country channels as well.


Yes to the substitution !
On my humax box, you can go into non-freesat mode to get extra channels, but you lose the 14 day freesat EPG. The two modes do not integrate, and its too much pain to keep changing back and forth.
Simon.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
:

Do you actually mean FreeView or just free to view?

Probably the latter, in retrospect (apologies)..

I have a non FreeSat satellite receiver with a dish rotator and can
receive many thousands of channels.

Wow - that sounds like the setup I'd like.

Are you in an area where the full compliment of FreeView progs ain't
available? And never will be?

Not sure about that. It does look as though I don;t have line-of sight to
any transmitter, but I guess the same applies to a large percentage of UK
houses...

J PS: I want to say how grateful I am to everyone for the input on this
topic. I've always liked this NG, but the generous feedback in this thread
has been truly heart-warming. Long live the UK, and power to the people!!

In article ,
JakeD wrote:
I have a non FreeSat satellite receiver with a dish rotator and can
receive many thousands of channels.

Wow - that sounds like the setup I'd like.

Not expensive to do. My receiver came from Lidl as part of a kit, and I
later added a larger dish with rotator. Total cost just over 100 quid.
Later still I changed the receiver to an HD one.

If you have people staying from some other countries it can be very useful
to give them their 'home' progs - but I soon got bored with it. There's
lots and lots of dross out there. ;-)

But there are some movie channels you'll not get on FreeView. And one or
two other interesting things. If you love religion, you'll be in heaven.
;-)

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Ian Jackson wrote:

Rain in itself (even torrential) - has negligible effect on the strength
of VHF and UHF radio/TV signals.
However if the signal path has trees or buildings in the way there can
be an effect.

Bill

tim..... wrote:

I just pretended that I (still) lived in London.

I can't be doing with local news about farmer Joe's cow

So were you forced to leave the city then?

Bill

On 3 Sep,
sm_jamieson wrote:

On my humax box, you can go into non-freesat mode to get extra channels,
but you lose the 14 day freesat EPG. The two modes do not integrate, and
its too much pain to keep changing back and forth.

I'm thinking of getting a second box to avoid the changing. Financal approval
may be a different matter 8-(.


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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
tim..... wrote:

I just pretended that I (still) lived in London.

I can't be doing with local news about farmer Joe's cow

So were you forced to leave the city then?

If I wanted to work, yes :-(

tim

On Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:10:00 +0100, wrote:

On my humax box, you can go into non-freesat mode to get extra
channels, but you lose the 14 day freesat EPG. The two modes do not
integrate, and its too much pain to keep changing back and forth.

I'm thinking of getting a second box to avoid the changing. Financal
approval may be a different matter 8-(.

Remember you will need independant feeds from the LNB to each satellite
receiver or devise some switching arrangement. The latter I have never
seen, it has to go from DC to over 1GHz... I guess you could cable swap
but that is probably more hassle than switch receiver mode.

--
Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
:

Not expensive to do. My receiver came from Lidl as part of a kit, and I
later added a larger dish with rotator. Total cost just over 100 quid.
Later still I changed the receiver to an HD one.

Does the rotator allow you to control the direction of the dish (side-to-
side and up-and-down) from inside the house? If so, that sounds fantastic.
Can you recommend a particular make/medel of this device?

Thanks again,

J

In article ,
JakeD wrote:
Not expensive to do. My receiver came from Lidl as part of a kit, and I
later added a larger dish with rotator. Total cost just over 100 quid.
Later still I changed the receiver to an HD one.

Does the rotator allow you to control the direction of the dish
(side-to- side and up-and-down) from inside the house? If so, that
sounds fantastic. Can you recommend a particular make/medel of this
device?

Not up and down - simply side to side, but of course it's more of an arc.
The receiver memorises where the various satellites are - indeed if you
align things properly, once you've found one it seems to find the others
for you.

Can't remember the make - came as a kit with a 800mm dish from Ebay for
about 60 quid. I think they all use a universal protocol so will work with
any receiver.

The DC for the motor goes up the co-ax cable, so needs no additional
wiring.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

How they work, and more importantly how to set them up, is explained
on my site. If you just want the general drift, read the intro (link
1), if you want the naked and heavy actualities, read the relevant
analysis page (link 8).

http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...telliteTV.html

On 4 Sep 2012 14:53:24 GMT, JakeD wrote:

Does the rotator allow you to control the direction of the dish (side-to-
side and up-and-down) from inside the house? If so, that sounds fantastic.
Can you recommend a particular make/medel of this device?
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In article , JakeD
scribeth thus
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
:

Not expensive to do. My receiver came from Lidl as part of a kit, and I
later added a larger dish with rotator. Total cost just over 100 quid.
Later still I changed the receiver to an HD one.

Does the rotator allow you to control the direction of the dish (side-to-
side and up-and-down) from inside the house? If so, that sounds fantastic.
Can you recommend a particular make/medel of this device?

Thanks again,

J

Yes they do just that we used to have one but the need for more then the
one Sat at the same time saw Two dishes and multi LNB's. They do the up
down thigh if you line them up correctly...
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"JakeD" wrote in message
...
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in
:

Not expensive to do. My receiver came from Lidl as part of a kit, and I
later added a larger dish with rotator. Total cost just over 100 quid.
Later still I changed the receiver to an HD one.

Does the rotator allow you to control the direction of the dish (side-to-
side and up-and-down) from inside the house? If so, that sounds fantastic.
Can you recommend a particular make/medel of this device?

Thanks again,

J
You use a "polar mount", once setup left/right movement tracks the Clarke
belt.

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Does the rotator allow you to control the direction of the dish
(side-to- side and up-and-down) from inside the house? If so, that
sounds fantastic. Can you recommend a particular make/medel of this
device?

Thanks again,

J

Yes they do just that we used to have one but the need for more then the
one Sat at the same time saw Two dishes and multi LNB's. They do the up
down thigh if you line them up correctly...

The motor only rotates in one plane. At any one point, the dish can only
be moved side to side - not up and down. Because the pivot isn't vertical,
the dish follows an arc as it pivots - so does rise and fall. But you
can't adjust the up down with the motor.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Does the rotator allow you to control the direction of the dish
(side-to- side and up-and-down) from inside the house? If so, that
sounds fantastic. Can you recommend a particular make/medel of this
device?

Thanks again,

J

Yes they do just that we used to have one but the need for more then the
one Sat at the same time saw Two dishes and multi LNB's. They do the up
down thigh if you line them up correctly...

The motor only rotates in one plane. At any one point, the dish can only
be moved side to side - not up and down. Because the pivot isn't vertical,
the dish follows an arc as it pivots - so does rise and fall. But you
can't adjust the up down with the motor.

Dave, it as you say does it itself which is altering the Zenith but
only where it has to, thats of course tracked by the setup of the motor
mount itself. But it does alter...

Else anyone might think that the same rotator system you might use to
drive say an FM aerial for DX reception might do. Course that has no
zenithal adjustment at all just an azimuthal one...
--
Tony Sayer

On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:08:12 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

Else anyone might think that the same rotator system you might use to
drive say an FM aerial for DX reception might do. Course that has no
zenithal adjustment at all just an azimuthal one...

You'd get the same effcet by having the ordinary rotator not mounted
vertically but you wouldn't have the automatic DiSEqC dish control to
send the dish to the right place for the satellite required for the
channel selected.

I'm not sure the actual repeatabilty/actual position control would be
fine enough with an ordinary rotator either.

--
Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
The motor only rotates in one plane. At any one point, the dish can only
be moved side to side - not up and down. Because the pivot isn't vertical,
the dish follows an arc as it pivots - so does rise and fall. But you
can't adjust the up down with the motor.

Dave, it as you say does it itself which is altering the Zenith but
only where it has to, thats of course tracked by the setup of the motor
mount itself. But it does alter...

Else anyone might think that the same rotator system you might use to
drive say an FM aerial for DX reception might do. Course that has no
zenithal adjustment at all just an azimuthal one...

I was trying to make it clear to the OP who might think he can find a
satellite from his arm chair by motoring the disk in any direction -
that's all.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"brass monkey" wrote in
eb.com:

You use a "polar mount", once setup left/right movement tracks the
Clarke belt.

Thanks.. I wasn't aware of the Carke Belt until now. What the others were
saying about the dish only needing to move within a single arc, all makes
sense to me now.

J