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Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front
and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! |
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Ronald Tompkins wrote:
Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! It's called the 'I haven't a clue how to drive, so I just let everybody else stay clear of me' technique... |
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On Feb 17, 7:26*pm, Ronald Tompkins wrote:
Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. *Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? *I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Have you thought about posting on http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/ the biggest motoring forum in the UK and you will get much more feedback than you do here. Far be it from me to want to you to go but your post do seem a little OT if you don't mind me saying. |
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On Feb 17, 7:26*pm, Ronald Tompkins wrote:
Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. *Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? *I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Don't take any evasive action. Maintain your speed. The HC states that drivers joining the main carriageway must adjust their speed to that of the traffic already on the road. Don't worry. McK. |
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Ronald Tompkins wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! It's called the 'I haven't a clue how to drive, so I just let everybody else stay clear of me' technique... It dunnarf scare 'em when the lorry or coach they try to force out of the way stays in lane 1, because there's traffic in lane 2 that they can't see. I had one white van try it a while ago on the M20. He drove about half a mile along the hard shoulder and didn't half give me a dirty look (And a rude hand signal, which isn't in the highway code) when he accelerated after he finally realised I wasn't going to pull out because there was another coach that was trying to overtake me. Comments were made by my passengers concerning his driving ability. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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pullgees wrote:
On Feb 17, 7:26 pm, Ronald Tompkins wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Have you thought about posting on http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/ the biggest motoring forum in the UK and you will get much more feedback than you do here. Far be it from me to want to you to go but your post do seem a little OT if you don't mind me saying. The post is meant to be OT. It is posted by a pillock who knows what they are doing when they post. -- Adam |
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On 17/02/2012 19:45, ARWadsworth wrote:
pullgees wrote: On Feb 17, 7:26 pm, Ronald wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Have you thought about posting on http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/ the biggest motoring forum in the UK and you will get much more feedback than you do here. Far be it from me to want to you to go but your post do seem a little OT if you don't mind me saying. The post is meant to be OT. It is posted by a pillock who knows what they are doing when they post. He keeps posting in other peoples real names. He's a wave short of a shipwreck. -- Bod |
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, at 11:34:50 on Fri, 17 Feb 2012, McKevvy remarked: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. *Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? *I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Don't take any evasive action. Maintain your speed. The HC states that drivers joining the main carriageway must adjust their speed to that of the traffic already on the road. Unfortunately, sometimes they don't. Only yesterday I had to take significant evasive action when a lorry I was alongside and slowly overtaking on a 3-lane motorway put on its right indicators and simultaneously drifted several feet into "my" lane. The thing about joining motorways is that in theory the traffic on the inside lane of the motorway should already have big enough gaps between, so that you can "aim for" one of the gaps and join that flow (albeit instantaneously destroying the gap between two of them. But often these days the vehicles are too close together to even do that. -- Roland Perry |
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On Feb 17, 7:26*pm, Ronald Tompkins wrote:
Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? *I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Rule is you adjust your speed to the traffic. Same when leaving the hard shoulder (and miserably forgotten by some!). The practical rule is you generally floor it down the "on-ramp" until going slightly quicker than the traffic, then after locating a place merge in and lift off / brake to bring your speed & separation into line. It is easier to brake than accelerate. This is ruddy funny when it is an off camber corner on-ramp, black ice and a pillock promptly swaps ends of course but Darwin has to be allowed to work at some point if only for entertainment value. If the traffic is crawling you are left with an interesting dilemma, pull in early whilst a jag 1mm from your rear end in fury hurls itself past for that important 30ft and is promptly ignored by *everyone* so takes to hurling the car into a gap in the line of traffic. Whereupon the lorry overtakes him and promptly blocks him whilst the jag indicator flashes forlornly, forgotten and intentionally ignored. The jag is usually driven a Business Development Manager, or open prison thief as they are more commonly referred to by any small business with a clue. Likewise you can not control your distance from the vehicle behind, but you can compensate for tailgaters by controlling the distance you are from the vehicle in front. This greatly reduces the risk of rear ending in general, you have to assume the other driver is a moron and compensate accordingly because with somewhat alarming regularity they are. UK has become a push-in society with company cars invariably used literally as battering rams, even going around to competitors and ramming their company cars. Oracle & Citrix to name two very famous for it. Temp names being written down on the insurance claim forms... of course. Used to be they started at lane 1 and pointed diagonally to lane 3... launching over every bounce... Citreon's micro car usually, in blue, with the engine just about redlining in top gear :-) |
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In article , Ronald Tompkins
wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! when I leaned to drive, there were only 2 motorways and the nearest was nearly 200 miles away. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16 |
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Ronald Tompkins wrote:
Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Being a 'silver surfer' I find it difficult to understand your method of driving. I simply get into the middle lane well before I approach the On-slip-road to avoid that sort of situation [1] [2] - after all, these are well sign posted before you even get close to the slip-roads, but of course, some drivers are damned inconsiderate for wanting to join the motorway at these points - aren't they? If I can't do that due to the traffic (very, very rare), I simply take my foot off the accelerator and let the other car in. [1] Or the outside lane on a two-lane motorway. [2] I also do the same on dual carriageways/ Apologies for the sarcasm, but I thought that it was standard practice to 'read the road ahead' so that such situations can be avoided on what after all is a straight piece of road at that point. Cash |
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On Feb 17, 8:45*pm, "Cash"
wrote: If I can't do that due to the traffic (very, very rare), I simply take my foot off the accelerator and let the other car in. Letting off the accelerator too much tends to cause a lot of bunching of traffic behind, forcing lorries to overtake into lane 2, which blocks the motorway merging capacity to that of lane 1. Moving into lane 2 in advance (usually pretty obvious re indeed well marked junction points) helps reduce this problem although it pushes lane 2 traffic into lane 3 if lorries start joining in. Lane 3 of course then jams on the brakes at the speed differential infraction :-) A way around that is to have a very long merging lane so there is smoother integration of traffic. Never been on an autobahn, but I have a sneaking suspicion they might do that. |
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:26:31 +0000 (UTC), Ronald Tompkins
wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway Feck off you trolling ****. |
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js.b1 wrote:
On Feb 17, 8:45 pm, "Cash" wrote: If I can't do that due to the traffic (very, very rare), I simply take my foot off the accelerator and let the other car in. Letting off the accelerator too much tends to cause a lot of bunching of traffic behind, forcing lorries to overtake into lane 2, which blocks the motorway merging capacity to that of lane 1. Moving into lane 2 in advance (usually pretty obvious re indeed well marked junction points) helps reduce this problem although it pushes lane 2 traffic into lane 3 if lorries start joining in. Lane 3 of course then jams on the brakes at the speed differential infraction :-) A way around that is to have a very long merging lane so there is smoother integration of traffic. Never been on an autobahn, but I have a sneaking suspicion they might do that. No, the cause of 'bunching' is drivers driving too close to the arse of the vehicle in front and *NOT* by taking ones foot of the accelerator [1] - a fact proven some years ago by one of the roadside rescue companies or the RRL (Road Research Laboratory) I can't remember which one now though, but the research was carried out on the M25 and some A roads in the vicinity. The simple cause of most of the traffic jams is the person behind the wheel who can look no further than the end of the vehicles bonnet or simply lacks the brain to think. [1] Keep the correct distance apart and eyes on the road ahead (rather than in the mirror grooming themselves) or take that mobile phone from their ears or stopping texting or reading a text etc. Again apologies for the sarcasm, but I hate drivers making excuses for their own or others bad driving. Cash |
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"Ronald Tompkins" wrote in message ... Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! No Big deal, just back off a little and let them move over. That's basic defensive driving. Or perhaps you favour stubbornly holding your ground just to make life difficult for others! Mike |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , "Cash" wrote: Apologies for the sarcasm, but I thought that it was standard practice to 'read the road ahead' so that such situations can be avoided on what after all is a straight piece of road at that point. In which case why aren't these joining clowns doing that?It's their responsibility after all. I fully agree with you Tim - but wouldn't you accept that it's also your "responsibility" to 'try' and avert a problem by reading the road and situation so that *YOU* can try to outwit those "clowns" and in doing so, *YOU* and your passengers stay safe? I'm not trying to preach here, but in my opinion, if the OP has to make such comments regarding the very basic and common situation he describes, then he should be made to re-sit his driving test. Cash |
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:34:14 -0800 (PST), pullgees
wrote: On Feb 17, 7:26*pm, Ronald Tompkins wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. *Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? *I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Have you thought about posting on http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/ the biggest motoring forum in the UK and you will get much more feedback than you do here. Far be it from me to want to you to go but your post do seem a little OT if you don't mind me saying. You mean someone else took control of his vehicle? He seems adamant that he did the evasive action himself. HN |
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On 17 Feb,
Tim Streater wrote: In article , "Cash" wrote: Apologies for the sarcasm, but I thought that it was standard practice to 'read the road ahead' so that such situations can be avoided on what after all is a straight piece of road at that point. In which case why aren't these joining clowns doing that?It's their responsibility after all. We could do with the public information films back on the TV. I was forced to pull over to lane 2 by someone joining the M1 on Saturday. The driver who had to move into lane 3 didn't half carve up the new joiner when he wanted to move out to overtake the lorry I was following. What is the current system of signaling on roundabouts? From observations I think it must have changed to indicating right to pull off. -- B Thumbs Change lycos to yahoo to reply |
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:55:56 GMT, wrote:
On 17 Feb, Tim Streater wrote: In article , "Cash" wrote: Apologies for the sarcasm, but I thought that it was standard practice to 'read the road ahead' so that such situations can be avoided on what after all is a straight piece of road at that point. In which case why aren't these joining clowns doing that?It's their responsibility after all. We could do with the public information films back on the TV. I was forced to pull over to lane 2 by someone joining the M1 on Saturday. The driver who had to move into lane 3 didn't half carve up the new joiner when he wanted to move out to overtake the lorry I was following. What is the current system of signaling on roundabouts? From observations I think it must have changed to indicating right to pull off. 1. Join roundabout 2. Signal to leave roundabout 3. Maintain LH signal for the entire journey around the roundabout. This allows all people hoping to enter the roundabout enough time to fully appreciate the artistic appeal of your indicators. HN |
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Ronald Tompkins wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Expect for road rage situations, this has never been a problem. |
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"H. Neary" wrote in message news On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:55:56 GMT, wrote: On 17 Feb, Tim Streater wrote: In article , "Cash" wrote: Apologies for the sarcasm, but I thought that it was standard practice to 'read the road ahead' so that such situations can be avoided on what after all is a straight piece of road at that point. In which case why aren't these joining clowns doing that?It's their responsibility after all. We could do with the public information films back on the TV. I was forced to pull over to lane 2 by someone joining the M1 on Saturday. The driver who had to move into lane 3 didn't half carve up the new joiner when he wanted to move out to overtake the lorry I was following. What is the current system of signaling on roundabouts? From observations I think it must have changed to indicating right to pull off. 1. Join roundabout 2. Signal to leave roundabout 3. Maintain LH signal for the entire journey around the roundabout. This allows all people hoping to enter the roundabout enough time to fully appreciate the artistic appeal of your indicators. I was taught to signal left or right prior to entering a roundabout if you intended leaving to left or right. No signal on entering if going straight on. Then signal left as you pass the exit before the one you intend exiting by. Has this changed? Maintaining left signal all the way round gives the wrong warning to those waiting to enter. Mike |
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MuddyMike wrote:
I was taught to signal left or right prior to entering a roundabout if you intended leaving to left or right. No signal on entering if going straight on. Then signal left as you pass the exit before the one you intend exiting by. Has this changed? Maintaining left signal all the way round gives the wrong warning to those waiting to enter. Not as bad as those who commence signalling left before the exit prior to they one they actually intend to leave at, then they wonder why you start to pull out in front of them! |
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MuddyMike wrote:
"H. Neary" wrote in message news On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:55:56 GMT, wrote: On 17 Feb, Tim Streater wrote: In article , "Cash" wrote: Apologies for the sarcasm, but I thought that it was standard practice to 'read the road ahead' so that such situations can be avoided on what after all is a straight piece of road at that point. In which case why aren't these joining clowns doing that?It's their responsibility after all. We could do with the public information films back on the TV. I was forced to pull over to lane 2 by someone joining the M1 on Saturday. The driver who had to move into lane 3 didn't half carve up the new joiner when he wanted to move out to overtake the lorry I was following. What is the current system of signaling on roundabouts? From observations I think it must have changed to indicating right to pull off. 1. Join roundabout 2. Signal to leave roundabout 3. Maintain LH signal for the entire journey around the roundabout. This allows all people hoping to enter the roundabout enough time to fully appreciate the artistic appeal of your indicators. I was taught to signal left or right prior to entering a roundabout if you intended leaving to left or right. No signal on entering if going straight on. Then signal left as you pass the exit before the one you intend exiting by. Has this changed? Maintaining left signal all the way round gives the wrong warning to those waiting to enter. I have not indicated left all week. I have had rather a few handsignals made and horns blasted at me. I finally fitted the new relay today:-) -- Adam |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 15:49:19 -0000, "MuddyMike"
wrote: "H. Neary" wrote in message news On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:55:56 GMT, wrote: On 17 Feb, Tim Streater wrote: In article , "Cash" wrote: Apologies for the sarcasm, but I thought that it was standard practice to 'read the road ahead' so that such situations can be avoided on what after all is a straight piece of road at that point. In which case why aren't these joining clowns doing that?It's their responsibility after all. We could do with the public information films back on the TV. I was forced to pull over to lane 2 by someone joining the M1 on Saturday. The driver who had to move into lane 3 didn't half carve up the new joiner when he wanted to move out to overtake the lorry I was following. What is the current system of signaling on roundabouts? From observations I think it must have changed to indicating right to pull off. 1. Join roundabout 2. Signal to leave roundabout 3. Maintain LH signal for the entire journey around the roundabout. This allows all people hoping to enter the roundabout enough time to fully appreciate the artistic appeal of your indicators. I was taught to signal left or right prior to entering a roundabout if you intended leaving to left or right. No signal on entering if going straight on. Then signal left as you pass the exit before the one you intend exiting by. Has this changed? Maintaining left signal all the way round gives the wrong warning to those waiting to enter. Mike Apologies. I thought the sarcasm would be ovbious. Indicating too soon is common practice now, and I do find it very irritating. HN |
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On 17/02/2012 20:45, Cash wrote:
Ronald Tompkins wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. I simply get into the middle lane well before I approach the On-slip-road to avoid that sort of situation. Yes, many HGVs do this and I think that is the best approach. There is one bit of local dual carriage way which I often join on a bend. Many cars already on the road move to the right hand lane. -- Michael Chare |
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Ronald Tompkins set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
continuum: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! I'm well ware of the phenomenon. "Keeping pace" I call it, and I hate it. To annoy a pacer, _speed_up_ to give them a space. -- ΞΎ: ) Proud to be curly Interchange the alphabetic letter groups to reply |
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On 17/02/2012 19:26, Ronald Tompkins wrote:
Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Some people clearly haven't heard of zip merging. |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:43:26 -0000, John wrote:
Some people clearly haven't heard of zip merging. Compresses the vehicles so they can all fit into one lane? -- Rod |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:43:26 +0000, John wrote:
On 17/02/2012 19:26, Ronald Tompkins wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Some people clearly haven't heard of zip merging. Personally I find the drivers coming down the slip road nose to tail kind of amusing. You would think the Darwin effect would limit this piece of stupidity, but I often see groups of four or five vehicles join the motorway with a couple of metres between them. HN |
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Ronald Tompkins wrote:
Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! This has nothing relating to DIY in it. Please no crossposting. |
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message ... Ronald Tompkins wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! This has nothing relating to DIY in it. Please no crossposting. Course it does. The only motorists that don't DIY are those with chauffeurs, like GovMint Ministers and Olympic FatCats. |
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"John" wrote in message . uk... On 17/02/2012 19:26, Ronald Tompkins wrote: Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Snipped from Travel.com "Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive!" I sense some similarity here!!! Could the op be the same Mr Ben that posted this on Travel.com on 29th April 2011? Mike |
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"Ronald Tompkins" wrote in message ... Driving in lane 1 of a motorway at a steady speed with large gaps in front and behind me, I find it difficult to understand why some drivers approaching the motorway on a slip road draw level with me instead of accelerating or decelerating slightly to pull into the gaps. Several times recently I have had to take evasive action when another driver tries to join in this manner. Are there any others out there who use this bizarre technique for joining a motorway? I don't remember it being taught when I was learning to drive! Of course if I am approaching an entry slip and I can see lots of cars on it I move over to the middle lane so they can pull onto the motorway. The other problems is the numpties who don't accelerate on the slip road (to the speed of the cars on the motorway) and pull out doing about 20-30mph less than the traffic! |
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On Feb 17, 7:34*pm, McKevvy wrote:
Don't take any evasive action. Maintain your speed. While you are in terms of road traffic law completely in the right, I would suggest that "defensive driving" would suggest that if they do that and it is safe for you to do so that you should move to the right or back off slightly to let them in. It's all very well there being an accident and it being someone else's fault, but I would prefer to accommodate the muppets and not have to deal with the admin or worse of an accident I could have avoided. I once heard it said: "Don't just drive as if everyone else on the road is an idiot. Drive as if they are actively out to kill you." Neil |
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Neil Williams wrote:
On Feb 17, 7:34 pm, McKevvy wrote: Don't take any evasive action. Maintain your speed. While you are in terms of road traffic law completely in the right, I would suggest that "defensive driving" would suggest that if they do that and it is safe for you to do so that you should move to the right or back off slightly to let them in. It's all very well there being an accident and it being someone else's fault, but I would prefer to accommodate the muppets and not have to deal with the admin or worse of an accident I could have avoided. I once heard it said: "Don't just drive as if everyone else on the road is an idiot. Drive as if they are actively out to kill you." My wife finds joining the motorway a very fraught experience. A couple of times, I have ended up on the hard shoulder when the traffic in the nearside lane refuses to leave a gap, but that's the worst that can happen. -- Register as an organ donor with the NHS online. It takes 1 minute and saves you carrying an organ donor card with you. http://www.uktransplant.org.uk/ukt/h...me_a_donor.jsp |
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..com, Neil Williams scribeth thus On Feb 17, 7:34*pm, McKevvy wrote: Don't take any evasive action. Maintain your speed. While you are in terms of road traffic law completely in the right, I would suggest that "defensive driving" would suggest that if they do that and it is safe for you to do so that you should move to the right or back off slightly to let them in. It's all very well there being an accident and it being someone else's fault, but I would prefer to accommodate the muppets and not have to deal with the admin or worse of an accident I could have avoided. I once heard it said: "Don't just drive as if everyone else on the road is an idiot. Drive as if they are actively out to kill you." Neil Sound advice that;!... -- Tony Sayer |
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"GB" wrote in message ... Neil Williams wrote: On Feb 17, 7:34 pm, McKevvy wrote: Don't take any evasive action. Maintain your speed. While you are in terms of road traffic law completely in the right, I would suggest that "defensive driving" would suggest that if they do that and it is safe for you to do so that you should move to the right or back off slightly to let them in. It's all very well there being an accident and it being someone else's fault, but I would prefer to accommodate the muppets and not have to deal with the admin or worse of an accident I could have avoided. I once heard it said: "Don't just drive as if everyone else on the road is an idiot. Drive as if they are actively out to kill you." My wife finds joining the motorway a very fraught experience. A couple of times, I have ended up on the hard shoulder when the traffic in the nearside lane refuses to leave a gap, but that's the worst that can happen. Please do not take this as a facetious remark - it isn't. I suggest a lesson or two from a decent driving school would help, no matter how long she has held her licence. The lessons to be specifically aimed at her problem. (motorway driving, specifically the first bit... getting onto them!). Her current experience with otherwise (I presume ) competently handling the car should put her at her ease for this lesson.....Most women HATE taking "instructions" from their menfolk (and vice versa!!); so an impartial instructor would be of benefit. |
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Huge wrote:
A couple of times, I have ended up on the hard shoulder when the traffic in the nearside lane refuses to leave a gap, but that's the worst that can happen. Is the "Give Way" line at the end of the slip road not sufficiently obvious for you? Have you had your eyesight tested recently? What do you suggest I do? I'm doing 70 mph or so in the slip road, attempting to enter the motorway, but there's no gaps, and eventually I run out of slip road. I can't see where eyesight comes into it??? -- Register as an organ donor with the NHS online. It takes 1 minute and saves you carrying an organ donor card with you. http://www.uktransplant.org.uk/ukt/h...me_a_donor.jsp |
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Ian wrote:
"GB" wrote in message ... Neil Williams wrote: On Feb 17, 7:34 pm, McKevvy wrote: Don't take any evasive action. Maintain your speed. While you are in terms of road traffic law completely in the right, I would suggest that "defensive driving" would suggest that if they do that and it is safe for you to do so that you should move to the right or back off slightly to let them in. It's all very well there being an accident and it being someone else's fault, but I would prefer to accommodate the muppets and not have to deal with the admin or worse of an accident I could have avoided. I once heard it said: "Don't just drive as if everyone else on the road is an idiot. Drive as if they are actively out to kill you." My wife finds joining the motorway a very fraught experience. A couple of times, I have ended up on the hard shoulder when the traffic in the nearside lane refuses to leave a gap, but that's the worst that can happen. Please do not take this as a facetious remark - it isn't. I suggest a lesson or two from a decent driving school would help, no matter how long she has held her licence. The lessons to be specifically aimed at her problem. (motorway driving, specifically the first bit... getting onto them!). Actually, I was talking about my own experiences. I just don't see what you do if the guys in the nearside lane are nose to tail at 70 mph, other than decelerate gently in the hard shoulder. I wish that you experts would come up with a solution. |
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