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I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't
last long any more. Bought a new battery and that doesn't last any longer, so it isn't that. If I keep the battery outside the camera, it doesn't last any longer either, so the camera isn't using power when it's off. I guess the charger is done for then. Is that likely/normal? TIA |
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On Dec 19, 11:39*am, stuart noble wrote:
I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. Bought a new battery and that doesn't last any longer, so it isn't that. If I keep the battery outside the camera, it doesn't last any longer either, so the camera isn't using power when it's off. I guess the charger is done for then. Is that likely/normal? TIA Did you buy a genuine replacement battery for the camera or a cheapo chinese one? In my experience some of the chinese copies are not very good. |
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On 19/12/2011 11:45, chudford wrote:
On Dec 19, 11:39 am, stuart wrote: I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. Bought a new battery and that doesn't last any longer, so it isn't that. If I keep the battery outside the camera, it doesn't last any longer either, so the camera isn't using power when it's off. I guess the charger is done for then. Is that likely/normal? TIA Did you buy a genuine replacement battery for the camera or a cheapo chinese one? In my experience some of the chinese copies are not very good. Cheapo IIRC |
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writes I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. Bought a new battery and that doesn't last any longer, so it isn't that. If I keep the battery outside the camera, it doesn't last any longer either, so the camera isn't using power when it's off. I guess the charger is done for then. Is that likely/normal? TIA That's a shame, I like that range and internal zoom optics but got the AA bat version for easy spares and swapping. Sad that Sony bought it then smothered it Your logic sounds good, maybe check the output of the charger and see if it is as spec'd on the body. I could see it being either the charger or the charge control circuitry in the camera. If the unit o/p is as spec'd it would point to the cam. Even if the cam is at fault, I see there are plenty of external chargers available cheaply eg: (first hit): http://www.dc-battery.co.uk/product_...oducts_id=2550 -- fred it's a ba-na-na . . . . |
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stuart noble wrote: I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. Bought a new battery and that doesn't last any longer, so it isn't that. If I keep the battery outside the camera, it doesn't last any longer either, so the camera isn't using power when it's off. I guess the charger is done for then. Is that likely/normal? I've not come across a charger that still works, but not properly. They normally work properly or fail totally. But, of course, everything is possible. What you need to do it look at the voltage it's delivering while charging - or better still the current. But it's likely the new battery you've bought is also faulty. -- *Why do they put Braille on the drive-through bank machines? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 19/12/2011 12:10, fred wrote:
In article , stuart noble writes I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. Bought a new battery and that doesn't last any longer, so it isn't that. If I keep the battery outside the camera, it doesn't last any longer either, so the camera isn't using power when it's off. I guess the charger is done for then. Is that likely/normal? TIA That's a shame, I like that range and internal zoom optics but got the AA bat version for easy spares and swapping. Sad that Sony bought it then smothered it Your logic sounds good, maybe check the output of the charger and see if it is as spec'd on the body. I guess that means trudging off to the shops to buy a multimeter? Job for the new year then I could see it being either the charger or the charge control circuitry in the camera. If the unit o/p is as spec'd it would point to the cam. Even if the cam is at fault, I see there are plenty of external chargers available cheaply eg: (first hit): http://www.dc-battery.co.uk/product_...oducts_id=2550 |
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I guess that means trudging off to the shops to buy a multimeter? Job for the new year then No multimeter? You mean you only have an angle grinder? :-) |
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On 19/12/2011 12:49, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In , stuart wrote: I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. Bought a new battery and that doesn't last any longer, so it isn't that. If I keep the battery outside the camera, it doesn't last any longer either, so the camera isn't using power when it's off. I guess the charger is done for then. Is that likely/normal? I've not come across a charger that still works, but not properly. They normally work properly or fail totally. But, of course, everything is possible. What you need to do it look at the voltage it's delivering while charging - or better still the current. But it's likely the new battery you've bought is also faulty. Strange that the two batteries are equally inefficient though. Yes, I must get myself a meter... |
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On 19/12/2011 13:18, Newshound wrote:
I guess that means trudging off to the shops to buy a multimeter? Job for the new year then No multimeter? You mean you only have an angle grinder? :-) I only have tools in areas where I have a modicum of competence. That rules out electronics and anything to do with cars :-) |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 03:45:32 -0800 (PST), chudford wrote:
I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. I've a Minolta Dimage XT battery has been essentially useless from new. Very short life and doesn't appear to hold charge when in the camera. Did you buy a genuine replacement battery for the camera or a cheapo chinese one? In my experience some of the chinese copies are not very good. Just boughta cheap (£9.99 delivered from the UK, well channel islands) chinese copy for my iPaq from eBay. Knocks spots of the old chinese one that would be lucky to last 30 mins. Time will tell how long the new one lasts of course but I'm happy ATM. B-) A HP branded battery is in the order of £30... -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 19/12/2011 14:19, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 03:45:32 -0800 (PST), chudford wrote: I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. I've a Minolta Dimage XT battery has been essentially useless from new. Very short life and doesn't appear to hold charge when in the camera. Was it the official one? Did you buy a genuine replacement battery for the camera or a cheapo chinese one? In my experience some of the chinese copies are not very good. Just boughta cheap (£9.99 delivered from the UK, well channel islands) chinese copy for my iPaq from eBay. Knocks spots of the old chinese one that would be lucky to last 30 mins. Time will tell how long the new one lasts of course but I'm happy ATM. B-) A HP branded battery is in the order of £30... It's all pot luck it seems to me |
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stuart noble wrote: Just boughta cheap (£9.99 delivered from the UK, well channel islands) chinese copy for my iPaq from eBay. Knocks spots of the old chinese one that would be lucky to last 30 mins. Time will tell how long the new one lasts of course but I'm happy ATM. B-) A HP branded battery is in the order of £30... It's all pot luck it seems to me Could be. I needed a new battery for my Acer laptop - the original only lasted two years or so, but was left on charge. Ebay had a bewildering variety from about 15 - 150 quid. So i just picked one at random, and it seems just fine. Certainly got as good a capacity as the original. But I'm now keeping it on the shelf when not needed. ;-) -- *A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:17:13 +0000, stuart noble wrote:
I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. I've a Minolta Dimage XT battery has been essentially useless from new. Very short life and doesn't appear to hold charge when in the camera. Was it the official one? I should hope so, it came with the camera. B-) I can see what I typed can be read two ways. It's all pot luck it seems to me At least with eBay you can dig through the feedback and see if the goods match expectations in general. Personally I don't use the ships from HK sellers and check reasonably rigoursly any potential seller. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 19/12/2011 17:49, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:17:13 +0000, stuart noble wrote: I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. I've a Minolta Dimage XT battery has been essentially useless from new. Very short life and doesn't appear to hold charge when in the camera. Was it the official one? I should hope so, it came with the camera. B-) I can see what I typed can be read two ways. It's all pot luck it seems to me At least with eBay you can dig through the feedback and see if the goods match expectations in general. Personally I don't use the ships from HK sellers and check reasonably rigoursly any potential seller. What makes me suspect the charger is that it doesn't seem to take long for the charging light to go off |
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At least with eBay you can dig through the feedback and see if the goods match expectations in general. Personally I don't use the ships from HK sellers and check reasonably rigoursly any potential seller. Agree about feedback. Most of the stuff I've had from HK has been absolutely fine. It's never been rubbish, just once or twice a bit tacky or underperforming slightly. |
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In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 03:45:32 -0800 (PST), chudford wrote: I have an old Dimage XG that I'm very fond of, but the battery doesn't last long any more. I've a Minolta Dimage XT battery has been essentially useless from new. Very short life and doesn't appear to hold charge when in the camera. Did you buy a genuine replacement battery for the camera or a cheapo chinese one? In my experience some of the chinese copies are not very good. Just boughta cheap (£9.99 delivered from the UK, well channel islands) chinese copy for my iPaq from eBay. Knocks spots of the old chinese one that would be lucky to last 30 mins. Time will tell how long the new one lasts of course but I'm happy ATM. B-) A HP branded battery is in the order of £30... I presume that you are talking about 7dayshop there http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=777 -- geoff |
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:46:36 +0000, stuart noble wrote:
What makes me suspect the charger is that it doesn't seem to take long for the charging light to go off What sort of battery is it? Lithium based batteries/chargers try to be rather too clever to protect the battery and the user. They have a "fuel guage" abd protection circuitry. The "fuel guage" can get out os step with actual battery charge level and te protection can get triggered accidentally. Leaving things "on charge" for 24hrs or more sometimes sorts things out, until the next time. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 19/12/2011 22:56, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:46:36 +0000, stuart noble wrote: What makes me suspect the charger is that it doesn't seem to take long for the charging light to go off What sort of battery is it? Lithium based batteries/chargers try to be rather too clever to protect the battery and the user. They have a "fuel guage" abd protection circuitry. The "fuel guage" can get out os step with actual battery charge level and te protection can get triggered accidentally. Leaving things "on charge" for 24hrs or more sometimes sorts things out, until the next time. It's a lithium battery. Perhaps I need a stupid charger rather than a smart one |
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stuart noble wrote:
On 19/12/2011 22:56, Dave Liquorice wrote: On Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:46:36 +0000, stuart noble wrote: What makes me suspect the charger is that it doesn't seem to take long for the charging light to go off What sort of battery is it? Lithium based batteries/chargers try to be rather too clever to protect the battery and the user. They have a "fuel guage" abd protection circuitry. The "fuel guage" can get out os step with actual battery charge level and te protection can get triggered accidentally. Leaving things "on charge" for 24hrs or more sometimes sorts things out, until the next time. It's a lithium battery. Perhaps I need a stupid charger rather than a smart one trouble is the batteries are also smart..for elfin safety reasons. |
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