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Hello I don't know if anyone can help...
We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and the neighbour has also requested that the short hedge used as a boundary be removed and replaced as a fence or the hedge will be cut back to the boundary which will most probably kill it. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? The layout of the plans are as follows: Sun location at 15:00 * Sun location at 11:00 * Neighbour Mine | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ------ | | | H | |------------------------|------- Toilet | | | E | | Patio | Toilet / | | | D | | | / Ulils | | | G | | | Utils ----|Patio Doors|---- E - ----|Win |Door|Win |--- Lounge Dining Room The Toilet/utils is 3.2m high where attached to building, 2.35m high at other end. Hedge is 4.5 m long and 1.4m high Window ledge in my dining room is 1.2m from floor and window is 1.3m high. Door window section is 2m long. The dining room window is 0.25m from boundary and 0.55m wide The proposed conservatory is to be 0.2m from boundary. It is to extend 4m into garden and be 3.2m high at connection to existing building. It is to be 2.35m high at furthest extension. The conservatory will extend across diagonally to the edge of the existing toilet/util building. We really do not want to fall out with our neighbours, however we are aghast at living in near perpetual shadow. Any help will be greatly appreciated. |
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"supermoocow" wrote in message
... Hello I don't know if anyone can help... IANAL. In previous similar discussions on this group it was stated that you have no 'right' to sunlight access. |
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"supermoocow" wrote in message ... Hello I don't know if anyone can help... We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and the neighbour has also requested that the short hedge used as a boundary be removed and replaced as a fence or the hedge will be cut back to the boundary which will most probably kill it. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? snip Don't know if this is common across the UK, but we were walking recently in Derbyshire and saw a planning notice outside a house which included words from the local council to the effect that "loss of light or reduction in property value (plus a few other things) are not considered grounds for objection". So, especially as they don't require planning permission anyway, you may not have much comeback. Dave R P.S. is it an ancient hedge? Tne council tree officer may be interested. |
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"supermoocow" wrote in message ... The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and .. It's worth checking this with the council - if there hase every been any other extensions to the house (front porch, etc) these must be included in the permitted total increase. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. If they build directly on the boundary, that becomes the 'fence'. Why should you build another fence on your side of it for their benefit? I would tell them that you have no plans to replace the hedge if they destroy it - unless there is a fence specified in a covenant (unlikely if you currently have a hedge). They will consequently have *no privacy* inside their conservatory. Perhaps that corner of your garden would be a good location for a compost heap, or a children's play area? Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? Afraid not. - Arthur |
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supermoocow wrote:
Any help will be greatly appreciated. Make it clear that you object to the conservatory and that you will consider yourself in dispute with them should it go ahead. That'll knock more than the value of the conservatory off the value of their house (and yours also) but if they are planning to move first, they are the ones who'll suffer most. |
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"supermoocow" wrote in message ... Hello I don't know if anyone can help... We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and the neighbour has also requested that the short hedge used as a boundary be removed and replaced as a fence or the hedge will be cut back to the boundary which will most probably kill it. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? The layout of the plans are as follows: Sun location at 15:00 * Sun location at 11:00 * Neighbour Mine | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ------ | | | H | |------------------------|------- Toilet | | | E | | Patio | Toilet / | | | D | | | / Ulils | | | G | | | Utils ----|Patio Doors|---- E - ----|Win |Door|Win |--- Lounge Dining Room The Toilet/utils is 3.2m high where attached to building, 2.35m high at other end. Hedge is 4.5 m long and 1.4m high Window ledge in my dining room is 1.2m from floor and window is 1.3m high. Door window section is 2m long. The dining room window is 0.25m from boundary and 0.55m wide The proposed conservatory is to be 0.2m from boundary. It is to extend 4m into garden and be 3.2m high at connection to existing building. It is to be 2.35m high at furthest extension. The conservatory will extend across diagonally to the edge of the existing toilet/util building. We really do not want to fall out with our neighbours, however we are aghast at living in near perpetual shadow. Any help will be greatly appreciated. In the DETR booklet "Planning - A Guide for Householders" it says: "If the work you carry out seriously overshadows a neighbour's window and that window has been there for 20 years or more, you may be affecting his or her 'right to light' and you could be open to legal action." If this applies to you, it may be worth having a word with your local Planning Department - despite what others have said about right to light. In cases where planning permission *is* required, there seems to be a 45 degree rule whereby, when looking out at an angle of 45 degrees from the windows of neighbouring properties, your extension shouldn't be visible. Clearly, this one would be! Roger |
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"supermoocow" wrote in message ... Hello I don't know if anyone can help... We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. Friends are having the front of their bungalow extended. Have been refused planning permission to go beyond the building line of other properties in the road. In fact the row of properties is staggered so that each one is slightly back from the other. My understanding is that you have no rights to a view, or to light but the planning people said it would change the appearance of the area and the other residents should not have their view interrupted. My neighbour recently had a conservatory built. The side wall - of brick, is just inside his boundary but he says I can use it to build on if I wish. Maybe you could do the same. DaveK. |
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build a very large brick barbecue right on the boundry before he builds his
dream and make good use of it supermoocow wrote: Hello I don't know if anyone can help... We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and the neighbour has also requested that the short hedge used as a boundary be removed and replaced as a fence or the hedge will be cut back to the boundary which will most probably kill it. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? The layout of the plans are as follows: Sun location at 15:00 * Sun location at 11:00 * Neighbour Mine | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ------ | | | H | |------------------------|------- Toilet | | | E | | Patio | Toilet / | | | D | | | / Ulils | | | G | | | Utils ----|Patio Doors|---- E - ----|Win |Door|Win |--- Lounge Dining Room The Toilet/utils is 3.2m high where attached to building, 2.35m high at other end. Hedge is 4.5 m long and 1.4m high Window ledge in my dining room is 1.2m from floor and window is 1.3m high. Door window section is 2m long. The dining room window is 0.25m from boundary and 0.55m wide The proposed conservatory is to be 0.2m from boundary. It is to extend 4m into garden and be 3.2m high at connection to existing building. It is to be 2.35m high at furthest extension. The conservatory will extend across diagonally to the edge of the existing toilet/util building. We really do not want to fall out with our neighbours, however we are aghast at living in near perpetual shadow. Any help will be greatly appreciated. |
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You should check this out with your local planning office. Since July 02
conservatories have come within the ambit of building regs; there may also be planning issues. You are likely to find that if you are directly overlooked.by a conservatory, planning will stipulate they have obscure glass to maintain your privacy. I also seem to recall that building within 1m of a boundary is generally a planning no no. Jools "supermoocow" wrote in message ... Hello I don't know if anyone can help... We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and the neighbour has also requested that the short hedge used as a boundary be removed and replaced as a fence or the hedge will be cut back to the boundary which will most probably kill it. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? The layout of the plans are as follows: Sun location at 15:00 * Sun location at 11:00 * Neighbour Mine | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ------ | | | H | |------------------------|------- Toilet | | | E | | Patio | Toilet / | | | D | | | / Ulils | | | G | | | Utils ----|Patio Doors|---- E - ----|Win |Door|Win |--- Lounge Dining Room The Toilet/utils is 3.2m high where attached to building, 2.35m high at other end. Hedge is 4.5 m long and 1.4m high Window ledge in my dining room is 1.2m from floor and window is 1.3m high. Door window section is 2m long. The dining room window is 0.25m from boundary and 0.55m wide The proposed conservatory is to be 0.2m from boundary. It is to extend 4m into garden and be 3.2m high at connection to existing building. It is to be 2.35m high at furthest extension. The conservatory will extend across diagonally to the edge of the existing toilet/util building. We really do not want to fall out with our neighbours, however we are aghast at living in near perpetual shadow. Any help will be greatly appreciated. |
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"news individual" wrote in message ... You should check this out with your local planning office. Since July 02 conservatories have come within the ambit of building regs; there may also be planning issues. You are likely to find that if you are directly overlooked.by a conservatory, planning will stipulate they have obscure glass to maintain your privacy. I also seem to recall that building within 1m of a boundary is generally a planning no no. Jools Any idea whether the rules about "obscure glass" can be found anywhere on the net? We have some neighbours who have put up a conservatory close to the boundary and they've got clear glass and no blinds or curtains. Peter. |
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" Any idea whether the rules about "obscure glass" can be found anywhere on the net? We have some neighbours who have put up a conservatory close to the boundary and they've got clear glass and no blinds or curtains. Peter. My neighbour said in his application that he would have obscured glass installed for his conservatory but when I noticed the installers using clear glass they said they hadn't been told to use obscured glass. I got on to planning and it appears my neighbour was "hard up" and couldn't afford the more expensive obscured glass. After several months he eventually purchased some roll of opaque material to put over the glass. In your case I suspect it depends on how close to you the conservatory has been built. I have had a table at the same position in the living room for 20 years and from my seat the only view I get is their conservatory ! Martin |
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Don't let them build on the boundary as you may find an overlap lie with
guttering, keep the hedge where it is, if they cut it back it'll still grow and if they have any sense they'll leave enough space to give them access to continue cutting the hedge in future years. Dave |
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Roger Mills wrote in message ... In the DETR booklet "Planning - A Guide for Householders" it says: "If the work you carry out seriously overshadows a neighbour's window and that window has been there for 20 years or more, you may be affecting his or her 'right to light' and you could be open to legal action." If this applies to you, it may be worth having a word with your local Planning Department - despite what others have said about right to light. In cases where planning permission *is* required, there seems to be a 45 degree rule whereby, when looking out at an angle of 45 degrees from the windows of neighbouring properties, your extension shouldn't be visible. Clearly, this one would be! Roger No point talking to planning dept - it's nothing to do with them. And the 45 degree 'rule' is merely a rule of thumb (not law) used by *some* councils to assess effect on light. Its based on BRE guidelines, but has no statutory basis whatsoever. The OP has no comeback through the council, basically. Register a dispute. |
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:06:44 -0000, "supermoocow"
wrote: We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. Try the Neighbours From Hell and Garden Law websites/forums. Links on my webpage - http://mysite.freeserve.com/quickhelp/property.htm hth Daytona |
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Daytona wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 15:06:44 -0000, "supermoocow" wrote: We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. Try the Neighbours From Hell and Garden Law websites/forums. Links on my webpage - http://mysite.freeserve.com/quickhelp/property.htm hth Daytona I recall something about "Ancient lights'. Any application in this case? Also try uk.legal |
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"supermoocow" wrote in message ... Hello I don't know if anyone can help... We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. You may have an ancient light right from the dining room, but not the patio. 21 years and various angles etc. The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission It may not be large enough to require PP, but it is too near the boundary to be a Generally Permitted Development, so tell him and your local planning authority. He probably requires planning permission, OTOH he may get it anyway. and the neighbour has also requested that the short hedge used as a boundary be removed and replaced as a fence or the hedge will be cut back to the boundary which will most probably kill it. He can do this anyway. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. Says who - your deeds? Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? The layout of the plans are as follows: Sun location at 15:00 * Sun location at 11:00 * Neighbour Mine | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ------ | | | H | |------------------------|------- Toilet | | | E | | Patio | Toilet / | | | D | | | / Ulils | | | G | | | Utils ----|Patio Doors|---- E - ----|Win |Door|Win |--- Lounge Dining Room The Toilet/utils is 3.2m high where attached to building, 2.35m high at other end. Hedge is 4.5 m long and 1.4m high Window ledge in my dining room is 1.2m from floor and window is 1.3m high. Door window section is 2m long. The dining room window is 0.25m from boundary and 0.55m wide The proposed conservatory is to be 0.2m from boundary. It is to extend 4m into garden and be 3.2m high at connection to existing building. It is to be 2.35m high at furthest extension. The conservatory will extend across diagonally to the edge of the existing toilet/util building. We really do not want to fall out with our neighbours, however we are aghast at living in near perpetual shadow. Get him to put in a glass wall on your side. Any help will be greatly appreciated. |
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Snowman wrote: We have some neighbours who have put up a conservatory close to the boundary and they've got clear glass and no blinds or curtains. Give them a flash, then. -- *I'm not being rude. You're just insignificant Dave Plowman London SW 12 RIP Acorn |
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"supermoocow" wrote in message ... Hello I don't know if anyone can help... We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and the neighbour has also requested that the short hedge used as a boundary be removed and replaced as a fence or the hedge will be cut back to the boundary which will most probably kill it. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? If you haven't received a letter from the neighbour asking for your objections or concerns, then you are within your rights to inform your local authority that this build may impede your property both in privacy and right to light circumstances. The local authority will then issue a notice of concern to the neighbour and the proposed builder asking them to withdraw planning before written permission is received from all neighbouring properties which overlook this land. No one has the right to tell you, that you must accept the things they put on their property. If the neighbour was about erect a giant flashing glass fibre dildo, then I think everyone around the area would have something to say about it. Even if the dildo was of a size exempt from planning permission, the owner would held responsible for their actions in building something which may offend others. Well, the same goes for any building work which may impede or offend others who overlook the land. You do have the right of objection and you should have been given adequate notice in writing before this proposed build was due to take, to allow you to voice concerns. Wait until it is built and when it is part of the boundary it becomes the property of both parties under the party wall act. Then you can paint all the windows on your side and tell the neighbour you just wanted a change in decoration in your garden. Then you'll see how the right to objection works. :-)) --- www.basecuritysystems.no-ip.com Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release Date: 02/11/03 |
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"BigWallop" wrote in message ... "supermoocow" wrote in message ... Hello I don't know if anyone can help... We live in a semi-detached house and our adjoining neighbour has just informed me that they are planning on building a conservatory next to our boundary. The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room and we will no longer get sunshine into our dining room or patio until about 15:30 rather than 11:00 which we enjoy at present. The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and the neighbour has also requested that the short hedge used as a boundary be removed and replaced as a fence or the hedge will be cut back to the boundary which will most probably kill it. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? If you haven't received a letter from the neighbour asking for your objections or concerns, then you are within your rights to inform your local authority that this build may impede your property both in privacy and right to light circumstances. The local authority will then issue a notice of concern to the neighbour and the proposed builder asking them to withdraw planning before written permission is received from all neighbouring properties which overlook this land. No one has the right to tell you, that you must accept the things they put on their property. If the neighbour was about erect a giant flashing glass fibre dildo, then I think everyone around the area would have something to say about it. Even if the dildo was of a size exempt from planning permission, the owner would held responsible for their actions in building something which may offend others. Well, the same goes for any building work which may impede or offend others who overlook the land. You do have the right of objection and you should have been given adequate notice in writing before this proposed build was due to take, to allow you to voice concerns. Wait until it is built and when it is part of the boundary it becomes the property of both parties under the party wall act. Then you can paint all the windows on your side and tell the neighbour you just wanted a change in decoration in your garden. Then you'll see how the right to objection works. :-)) --- www.basecuritysystems.no-ip.com Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release Date: 02/11/03 couple of points You said at one point that the 4M out from existing would be cut bak to the utility room If this is a lean to . It will be some ugly. If the front frame heads are not parralell with the rear wall (the existing building). When the roof bars are placed in position with each one being shorter than the last.(due to the diagonal cut back you mentioned) The lean to pitch will fall in two directions making this the ugliest conservatory you are ever likely to see. Building regs as a minimum are rquired on all conservatories as minimum If you have to settle for something Make sure that your side of the conservatory is a Cavity Block/Brick Wall. Make sure it has a footings inspection by Planning. Also a good way to hold up proceedings would be to whip a plan in yourself for something similar. that should put the cat among the pigeons. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.524 / Virus Database: 321 - Release Date: 07/10/2003 |
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"Dave Plowman" wrote in message ... In article , Snowman wrote: We have some neighbours who have put up a conservatory close to the boundary and they've got clear glass and no blinds or curtains. Give them a flash, then. That's were a big hairy Arse'nal fan would come in handy. :-)) --- www.basecuritysystems.no-ip.com Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.535 / Virus Database: 330 - Release Date: 01/11/03 |
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BigWallop wrote: ... Even if the dildo was of a size exempt from planning permission, the owner would held responsible for their actions in building something which may offend others. a prize for the first person to ring their planning office and ask what is the largest dildo that would be except from planning permission :-) Darren |
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 19:29:37 -0000, "Snowman"
wrote: "news individual" wrote in message ... You should check this out with your local planning office. Since July 02 conservatories have come within the ambit of building regs; there may also be planning issues. You are likely to find that if you are directly overlooked.by a conservatory, planning will stipulate they have obscure glass to maintain your privacy. I also seem to recall that building within 1m of a boundary is generally a planning no no. Jools Any idea whether the rules about "obscure glass" can be found anywhere on the net? We have some neighbours who have put up a conservatory close to the boundary and they've got clear glass and no blinds or curtains. Peter. Have you considered holding parties in your garden? |
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:04:29 -0000, "CapStick"
wrote: couple of points You said at one point that the 4M out from existing would be cut bak to the utility room If this is a lean to . It will be some ugly. If the front frame heads are not parralell with the rear wall (the existing building). When the roof bars are placed in position with each one being shorter than the last.(due to the diagonal cut back you mentioned) The lean to pitch will fall in two directions making this the ugliest conservatory you are ever likely to see. Building regs as a minimum are rquired on all conservatories as minimum Are you certain about that?? From reading both the Statutory Instruments and other information on the ODPM web site, there is an exemption with respect to Building Regulations for conservatories of up to 30m^2, although there is a requirement for glazing to comply with Part N. There has been consultation etc. on this, but AFAICS nothing enacted in law at this point. If you have to settle for something Make sure that your side of the conservatory is a Cavity Block/Brick Wall. Make sure it has a footings inspection by Planning. By Planning? I think that this is the job of Building Control....... if they were involved in the first place. Also a good way to hold up proceedings would be to whip a plan in yourself for something similar. that should put the cat among the pigeons. Why? ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"dmc" wrote in message ... In article , BigWallop wrote: ... Even if the dildo was of a size exempt from planning permission, the owner would held responsible for their actions in building something which may offend others. a prize for the first person to ring their planning office and ask what is the largest dildo that would be except from planning permission :-) Darren ROFL !!! We're currently looking for someone to model the part if you're interested. :-)) |
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:06:35 +0000, (Steve
Firth) wrote: supermoocow wrote: The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room Why? Conservatory, made out of glass. Can have blinds and curtains......... ..andy To email, substitute .nospam with .gl |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:06:35 +0000, (Steve Firth) wrote: supermoocow wrote: The conservatory will be only 0.5m from our dining room window and will extend out 4m. This will reduce light into our dining room Why? Conservatory, made out of glass. Can have blinds and curtains......... And most I've seen either have the dwarf brick wall extended up to the height of the other conservatory walls on the boundary, or uPVC style insert to replace the glass. Most people don't like being looked into I guess. D |
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Neighbours new conservatory nightmare...
Arthur wrote:
"supermoocow" wrote in message ... The conservatory will not be large enough to require planning permission and .. It's worth checking this with the council - if there hase every been any other extensions to the house (front porch, etc) these must be included in the permitted total increase. The conservatory will be built upon the boundary of the property which we are responsible for fencing etc. If they build directly on the boundary, that becomes the 'fence'. Why should you build another fence on your side of it for their benefit? I would tell them that you have no plans to replace the hedge if they destroy it - unless there is a fence specified in a covenant (unlikely if you currently have a hedge). They will consequently have *no privacy* inside their conservatory. Perhaps that corner of your garden would be a good location for a compost heap, or a children's play area? Or indeed a 3KW arc lamp pointed straight inisde, day and night? Do we have any rights, what can we do to try to either stop or reduce the amount of light loss from the conservatory? Afraid not. - Arthur |
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Neighbours new conservatory nightmare...
"dmc" wrote in message ... In article , BigWallop wrote: ... Even if the dildo was of a size exempt from planning permission, the owner would held responsible for their actions in building something which may offend others. a prize for the first person to ring their planning office and ask what is the largest dildo that would be except from planning permission :-) Darren This was a ~30 storey tower hotel planned at the rear of the Free Trade Hall in Manchester (built on the site of the Peterloo massacre). It was round, tall, partly finished in [pink?] granite, would stick out above a listed building and even had a conical top... The plan was, thank goodness, eventually shelved and the tower was never erected. The Council meeting about it was a nightmare of puns and double entendres, pretty much like this post. |
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"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message ... "dmc" wrote in message ... In article , BigWallop wrote: ... Even if the dildo was of a size exempt from planning permission, the owner would held responsible for their actions in building something which may offend others. a prize for the first person to ring their planning office and ask what is the largest dildo that would be except from planning permission :-) Darren This was a ~30 storey tower hotel planned at the rear of the Free Trade Hall in Manchester (built on the site of the Peterloo massacre). It was round, tall, partly finished in [pink?] granite, would stick out above a listed building and even had a conical top... The plan was, thank goodness, eventually shelved and the tower was never erected. The Council meeting about it was a nightmare of puns and double entendres, pretty much like this post. The point of the post was someone saying they had no rights of objection in a neighbour building unsightly things around their property, where in fact, they have all the rights due to them in preventing this from happening if only they knew how to go about it. Because a building is exempt from planning permissions due to size and structure, it will never be exempt from basic right to light and obstruction of privacy regulations. So the point of my outrageous example was to put SuperMooCow on track in asking their local authority to step in and see what can be done. That's what we all pay rates and taxes for. |
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Neighbours new conservatory nightmare...
In article , BigWallop
writes No one has the right to tell you, that you must accept the things they put on their property. If the neighbour was about erect a giant flashing glass fibre dildo, then I think everyone around the area would have something to say about it. Even if the dildo was of a size exempt from planning permission, the owner would held responsible for their actions in building something which may offend others. Well, the same goes for any building work which may impede or offend others who overlook the land. Would such an erection be in Essex? -- Paul |
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wrote in message ... Portsmouth city council still havn't realised their (rather late) millenium tower, if it looks anything like the art work/models, is going to look like a pair of welcuming lips to ships entering port.... LOL As a very frequent visitor to Portsmouth, just where is it going to be sited? Dave |
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"PoP" wrote in message ... On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:31:29 +0000, wrote: Saw a short documentary on Meridian TV a couple of nights ago. Featured the original designer of the Tricorn shopping centre waxing lyrical about how he was hoping they'd accept a revamp of the Tricorn, thus saving it from being knocked down. I had to check my calendar to make sure that it wasn't April 1st. Just why have they not knocked it down? Dave |
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Dave wrote: wrote in message ... Portsmouth city council still havn't realised their (rather late) millenium tower As a very frequent visitor to Portsmouth, just where is it going to be sited? Gunwharf, currently it looks like a giant clothes peg... And the BBC will let you watch it going up http://www.bbc.co.uk/southampton/web...spinnaker.html -- Selah |
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wrote in message ... Dave wrote: wrote in message ... Portsmouth city council still havn't realised their (rather late) millenium tower, if it looks anything like the art work/models, is going to look like a pair of welcuming lips to ships entering port.... LOL As a very frequent visitor to Portsmouth, just where is it going to be sited? Dave Gunwharf, currently it looks like a giant clothes peg... Thanks, I'll take a look next time I am down there. I live in Preston, Lancashire, but make several trips down there to see my grand daughters. I have the journey down to a day trip these days :-) Dave |
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