"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:4824b17b@qaanaaq...
On 2008-05-09 21:13:16 +0100, "George" said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message

Ah, but you are assuming that I have an interest in shopping in these
Aldidl places.

It amuses me greatly that as soon as somebody places a post mentioning
that there is some great offer in one of these places that within
millseconds there are 50 messages on the thread,

If it was something wonderful that would assure the demise of the UK
government, Robert Mugabe, a cure for cancer or a blow job for any red
blooded male who wanted one, then I could understand.

As it is, the excitement is about a 4th rate grocery warehouse trying
to sell any old tat that happens to come in the next container from
Shanghai

It amazes me that people are actually sucked in (as it were) by this
********.




But but MrHall screwme and machine mart don't do angle grinder stands?
so
one must take the opertunity to visit Lidl to buy one as they are also
local,so you can see Lidl does have its uses.

Screwme does have angle grinder stands. They don't sell green
asparagus and neither does Machine Mart.



Well I searched on their search engine on both sites and couldn't find any?

On 9 May, 20:54, Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-09 18:49:37 +0100, "George" said:





"Andy Hall" wrote in message

I tried that URL.

It gave me a photo of a box of cauliflowers. On a Monday, I suppose
that they are leftovers from Saturday. Presumably the angle grinder is
to cut them into florets.

Yes but the stand is for the angle grinder,very handy for the grinder to cut
clean perfect ends of tublar metal, ect.

I'm sure Aldi sees you coming? you keep getting redirected to the fruit&veg
shelves. :-P

Ah, but you are assuming that I have an interest in shopping in these
Aldidl places.

It amuses me greatly that as soon as somebody places a post mentioning
that there is some great offer in one of these places that within
millseconds there are 50 messages on the thread,

If it was something wonderful that would assure the demise of the UK
government, Robert Mugabe, a cure for cancer or a blow job for any red
blooded male who wanted one, then I could understand.

As it is, the excitement is about a 4th rate grocery warehouse trying
to sell any old tat that happens to come in the next container from
Shanghai

It amazes me that people are actually sucked in (as it were) by this ********.

is it friday again?

On 2008-05-09 20:34:24 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:



George wrote:
Thats a little gem for the price.

http://tinyurl.com/44pn97

Certainly is, I bought one last time they were in, brilliant for the money.

I'm always concerned when the qualifier "for the money" is added.
Either a product does the job or it doesn't. If it doesn't then it is
as much use as a one legged man at an arse kicking party. If it does
then great.

The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it
doesn't. Something that doesn;t work that cost 50p is no better tan
something that doesn't work that cost a pound.

"jim" wrote in message

is it friday again?

You eat crunchies as well?

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-09 18:49:37 +0100, "George" said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message

I tried that URL.

It gave me a photo of a box of cauliflowers. On a Monday, I
suppose that they are leftovers from Saturday. Presumably the
angle grinder is to cut them into florets.





Yes but the stand is for the angle grinder,very handy for the
grinder to cut clean perfect ends of tublar metal, ect.

I'm sure Aldi sees you coming? you keep getting redirected to the
fruit&veg shelves. :-P

Ah, but you are assuming that I have an interest in shopping in these
Aldidl places.

It amuses me greatly that as soon as somebody places a post mentioning
that there is some great offer in one of these places that within
millseconds there are 50 messages on the thread,

If it was something wonderful that would assure the demise of the UK
government, Robert Mugabe, a cure for cancer or a blow job for any red
blooded male who wanted one, then I could understand.

As it is, the excitement is about a 4th rate grocery warehouse trying
to sell any old tat that happens to come in the next container from
Shanghai

It amazes me that people are actually sucked in (as it were) by this
********.

Spose it depends on wether you want an extreemly good angle grinder stand
for £8 or not.



--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:4824b24c@qaanaaq...
On 2008-05-09 20:34:24 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:



George wrote:
Thats a little gem for the price.

http://tinyurl.com/44pn97

Certainly is, I bought one last time they were in, brilliant for the
money.

I'm always concerned when the qualifier "for the money" is added.
Either a product does the job or it doesn't. If it doesn't then it is as
much use as a one legged man at an arse kicking party. If it does then
great.

The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it doesn't.
Something that doesn;t work that cost 50p is no better tan something that
doesn't work that cost a pound.


Depends on whether you mean function or durability. I get anything up to ten
years out of Bosch and Ryobi kit. A pro might wear this out in a couple of
months, which is why they buy De Walt. But I can have several tools for the
price of one De Walt.

On Fri, 9 May 2008 20:54:03 +0100, Andy Hall
wrote:

It amuses me greatly that as soon as somebody places a post mentioning
that there is some great offer in one of these places that within
millseconds there are 50 messages on the thread,

I really can't see why people get excited at all about shopping, as if
it's some sort of pastime. 'Retail therapy', or something, isn't it?
I shop when there's something I need, or specifically want (to play
with, for example).

I truly feel sorry for youngsters dragged around shopping malls by
their parents during bank 'holidays', instead of taking part in proper
leisure or cultural activities.

--
Frank Erskine

In article 4824b24c@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it
doesn't. Something that doesn;t work that cost 50p is no better tan
something that doesn't work that cost a pound.

But something that does work at 50p is better than one which does the same
at a pound?

--
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Man at B&Q wrote:

If you got to tinyurl.com and enable preview mode (it sets a cookie on
your PC) then click the link again, the preview allows you to see the
full link which, in this case, tells you what the item is.

Why on earth should anyone go to that trouble
just because you are too lazy to say what you are talking about?

I'm still not going to tell yoou, though ;-)

Is it some kind of secret?

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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-09 20:34:24 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:



George wrote:
Thats a little gem for the price.

http://tinyurl.com/44pn97

Certainly is, I bought one last time they were in, brilliant for the
money.

I'm always concerned when the qualifier "for the money" is added.
Either a product does the job or it doesn't. If it doesn't then it
is as much use as a one legged man at an arse kicking party. If it
does then great.

The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it
doesn't. Something that doesn;t work that cost 50p is no better tan
something that doesn't work that cost a pound.

The Lidl AGS is very well made & does the job for £8. IMO better than the
Axminster version at a great deal more.



--
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www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Andy Hall wrote:

As it is, the excitement is about a 4th rate grocery warehouse trying
to sell any old tat that happens to come in the next container from
Shanghai

Except that Aldi aren't a 4th rate grocer in most of Europe, they take a
significant percentage of the market.

The 'hard discounters' like Aldi, Lidl & Netto have just over 20% of the
European grocery market, but less than 4% of the UK market. Snobbery rules
OK.

Apart from very good angle grinder stands, they have excellent bratwurst, a
nice line in stuffed olives, some very good cheese and some great deals on
decent wine & beer.


--
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:4824b24c@qaanaaq...

I'm always concerned when the qualifier "for the money" is added.
Either a product does the job or it doesn't. If it doesn't then it is as
much use as a one legged man at an arse kicking party. If it does then
great.

The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it doesn't.

That's not actually helpful.

Price differential could be obtained by eg having smaller batteries in the
cheaper one - still works, just a bit more tedious on long jobs. Or a
fiddlier adjustment mechanism - still works, but some would find it
annoying. Or a shorter life - on something which is intended to only be used
a few times, this is a valid trade-off.

"for the money" implies you're accepting whatever minor disadvantages a
product may have compared to its more expensive brethren in exchange for a
lower price - it doesn't mean it fails in the major category, ie it does
work.

clive

On 2008-05-09 22:51:36 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Spose it depends on wether you want an extreemly good angle grinder stand
for £8 or not.

I haven't seen any promotions for Jaffa cakes in B&Q........

On 2008-05-10 00:27:08 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:



Andy Hall wrote:

As it is, the excitement is about a 4th rate grocery warehouse trying
to sell any old tat that happens to come in the next container from
Shanghai

Except that Aldi aren't a 4th rate grocer in most of Europe, they take a
significant percentage of the market.

In their home market of Germany they do, but in other countries they
are not major players.





The 'hard discounters' like Aldi, Lidl & Netto have just over 20% of the
European grocery market, but less than 4% of the UK market. Snobbery rules
OK.

Faulty market strategy on the part of the companies concerned results
in their poor market share.

Hard discounting is not in the long term interest of consumers.
For example, zoning restrictions in France initially controlled th
growth of large hypermarkets such as Carrefour and Auchan but permitted
smaller format stores such as Lidl to establish a presence. The
latter has begun to lead to the demise of the specialist retailers of
each food type who have traditionally sold the best quality products.
I read recently that over half of the French population now eat the
main meal of the day sat in front of the TV..




Apart from very good angle grinder stands, they have excellent bratwurst, a
nice line in stuffed olives, some very good cheese and some great deals on
decent wine & beer.

On those I'll pass. Specialist suppliers have better qualiy products.

On 2008-05-09 16:02:22 +0100, "Bob Mannix" said:

OTOH, NO! Not at any price! A beach fashion faux pas

http://tinyurl.com/6yp5v4

From this week's Lidl offers

A potato given away with each pair?

On 2008-05-09 23:54:07 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said:

In article 4824b24c@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it
doesn't. Something that doesn;t work that cost 50p is no better tan
something that doesn't work that cost a pound.

But something that does work at 50p is better than one which does the same
at a pound?

*if* it does in *all* respects, including acquisition costs.

On 2008-05-10 00:33:12 +0100, "Clive George" said:

"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:4824b24c@qaanaaq...

I'm always concerned when the qualifier "for the money" is added.
Either a product does the job or it doesn't. If it doesn't then it is
as much use as a one legged man at an arse kicking party. If it does
then great.

The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it doesn't.

That's not actually helpful.

Price differential could be obtained by eg having smaller batteries in
the cheaper one - still works, just a bit more tedious on long jobs. Or
a fiddlier adjustment mechanism - still works, but some would find it
annoying. Or a shorter life - on something which is intended to only be
used a few times, this is a valid trade-off.

"for the money" implies you're accepting whatever minor disadvantages a
product may have compared to its more expensive brethren in exchange
for a lower price - it doesn't mean it fails in the major category, ie
it does work.

clive

"works" includes all of these categories. If the thing is tedious to
use or the adjustments don't work properly, then it doesn't meet
certain purchase criteria.

If I find something that is deficient in one of these categories, it
doesn't work, as far as I am concerned. Otherwise, it's like saying
that a car without windscreen wipers "works". Well, it's still a car,
but it doesn't work in the UK environment because it can't be used for
part of the time.

I suppose that one could say that something "works for me", but that
doesn't mean that it works for everybody.

In article , The Medway
Handyman writes

The 'hard discounters' like Aldi, Lidl & Netto have just over 20% of the
European grocery market, but less than 4% of the UK market. Snobbery rules
OK.

I don't think it's snobbery, it's more a matter of deliberate market
positioning. Aldi/Lidl in Germany are seen very much as we would view
the likes of Tesco and Sainsbury's. My German friends are somewhat
bemused when I tell them that Aldi/Lidl are viewed as cheap and nasty
stores in this country.

I do have a look around the local Aldi and Lidl from time to time, but
my over-riding impression is that they are no cheaper than anywhere
else. What really irritates me, though is the tills - you can't pack
your goods at the till, you're expected to take them to the tables near
the exit. They also collect empty boxes and hide them very quickly so
you can't use them as an alternative to the plastic carrier bags, which
are charged for at 9p a time.

Let's not mention Netto. On my one and only trip to a Netto store I was
do overwhelmed by the sheer awfulness of the experience that I abandoned
the trolley, including the £1 coin I had used to release it, and haven't
been back since.

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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:48253391@qaanaaq...
On 2008-05-10 00:27:08 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Andy Hall wrote:

As it is, the excitement is about a 4th rate grocery warehouse trying
to sell any old tat that happens to come in the next container from
Shanghai

Except that Aldi aren't a 4th rate grocer in most of Europe, they take a
significant percentage of the market.

In their home market of Germany they do, but in other countries they are
not major players.

I noticed since the food price hypes, Lidle, Netto and Aldi have been very
busy. A good line on Jaffa cakes too.

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-09 22:51:36 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Spose it depends on wether you want an extreemly good angle grinder
stand for £8 or not.

I haven't seen any promotions for Jaffa cakes in B&Q........

Only a matter of time....


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-09 22:51:36 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Spose it depends on wether you want an extreemly good angle grinder stand
for £8 or not.

I haven't seen any promotions for Jaffa cakes in B&Q........

But since they repainted the exterior, the whole store looks a bit like
a giant Jaffa cake. :-)

(I think it was last year, around when they installed the mezzanine, it
changed from red to orange.)

--
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onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
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In article 48252b8d@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
Spose it depends on wether you want an extreemly good angle grinder
stand for £8 or not.

I haven't seen any promotions for Jaffa cakes in B&Q........

Given B&Q's pricing policy on low value items, I'm not surprised. And
you'd have to look for them in the digestive biscuit bin - only to find
half the packet had been eaten.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article 48253953@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-09 23:54:07 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said:

In article 4824b24c@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it
doesn't. Something that doesn;t work that cost 50p is no better tan
something that doesn't work that cost a pound.

But something that does work at 50p is better than one which does the
same at a pound?

*if* it does in *all* respects, including acquisition costs.

Well, I'd suggest you get straight down to Lidl and buy the angle grinder
stand in question - then do a full test of it and telling us just why it
isn't any good as you seem so sure about. I'll happily pay for it - if
only to shut you up. ;-)

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In article 48253b35@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
If I find something that is deficient in one of these categories, it
doesn't work, as far as I am concerned. Otherwise, it's like saying
that a car without windscreen wipers "works". Well, it's still a car,
but it doesn't work in the UK environment because it can't be used for
part of the time.

The correct analogy would be surely that the wipers do work - but
something like the intermittent operation isn't as good as you'd like?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
I do have a look around the local Aldi and Lidl from time to time, but
my over-riding impression is that they are no cheaper than anywhere
else. What really irritates me, though is the tills - you can't pack
your goods at the till, you're expected to take them to the tables near
the exit.

Not at any of the Lidl I've visited. But I quite approve of the idea -
waiting in a queue while someone in front faffs about packing is plain
stupid. At Lidl I put everything straight back in the trolley and pack at
the car.

They also collect empty boxes and hide them very quickly so
you can't use them as an alternative to the plastic carrier bags, which
are charged for at 9p a time.

You don't have any bags at home you can take with you?

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In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
I have. Toolstation and screwfix do free coffee, the first steps into
food retailing or being a cafe. You had better not shop there.

Given the time I had to wait at the Croydon branch of Screwfix last time
I'd rather they spent the money on improving the service. Perhaps online
ordering for immediate collection at the store - or user terminals as in
Argos.

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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:48252b8d@qaanaaq...
On 2008-05-09 22:51:36 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Spose it depends on wether you want an extreemly good angle grinder stand
for £8 or not.

I haven't seen any promotions for Jaffa cakes in B&Q........



I have. Toolstation and screwfix do free coffee, the first steps into food
retailing or being a cafe. You had better not shop there.

In message , Mike Tomlinson
wrote

What really irritates me, though is the tills - you can't pack
your goods at the till, you're expected to take them to the tables near
the exit.

I wish a lot more shops would do this. It may come as a culture shock
to those who waste other peoples time packing bags at the till but it is
a sensible approach to quick customer service. The staff at my local
Aldi can get 5 trolley loads of goods through the till faster than the
local Tesco can get five customers through the 10 items or less line!

The staff don't waste time at the tills spend servicing those 'club'
vouchers and giving out those 'crap for schools worth 0.001p' vouchers.

They also collect empty boxes and hide them very quickly so
you can't use them as an alternative to the plastic carrier bags, which
are charged for at 9p a time.

Another culture change required. Bring your own bags. I've always got
some heavy duty plastic bags in the back of my car. They cost £1 each
and have lasted 3 years so far.

Soon every supermarket will be withdrawing free bags and the 9p charged
by Aldi/Lidl for their heavy duty carrier bags will seem rather cheap
(they do cheaper carrier bags)



--
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Andy Hall wrote:
On 2008-05-09 23:54:07 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said:

In article 4824b24c@qaanaaq,
Andy Hall wrote:
The price has no bearing on either. Either something works or it
doesn't. Something that doesn;t work that cost 50p is no better tan
something that doesn't work that cost a pound.

But something that does work at 50p is better than one which does the
same
at a pound?

*if* it does in *all* respects, including acquisition costs.



Here is a good example of how your simplistic view of the market doesn't
really stack up. Poundland are apparently selling glyphospahate
weedkiller for a fraction of the price (per litre) you can get it
anywhere else. Unbranded rubbish? Well, no, it's Bayer actually, who are
no slouches when it comes to chemicals. So, how come the top brand ends
up in the Pound Shop? I imagine Bayer might have got sick of middle men,
with their brand images and helplines, inflating the price of basic
chemicals.

On Sat, 10 May 2008 09:42:09 +0100, Alan wrote:

Another culture change required. Bring your own bags. I've always got
some heavy duty plastic bags in the back of my car.

I always forget bags, even the lightweight freebies.

They cost £1 each and have lasted 3 years so far.

I object to the heavy branding on a bag I have bought. If the shop wants
me to carry an durable advert for them they ought to be paying me... I
don't mind a small logo but not the name emblazoned on all 4 sides.

--
Cheers
Dave.

In article , Alan
writes

I wish a lot more shops would do this. It may come as a culture shock
to those who waste other peoples time packing bags at the till

I don't. I pack and get out of the way quickly. Wish others would
though. It's not hard to do.

Another culture change required. Bring your own bags.

Why not just leave the boxes out, then no bags are needed? And the
boxes can go into recycling afterward.

I've always got
some heavy duty plastic bags in the back of my car. They cost £1 each
and have lasted 3 years so far.

Yeah, I've got some "bags for life" but always forget to take them with
me.

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On Sat, 10 May 2008 11:16:10 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:

In article , Alan
writes

I wish a lot more shops would do this. It may come as a culture shock
to those who waste other peoples time packing bags at the till

I don't. I pack and get out of the way quickly. Wish others would
though. It's not hard to do.

Another culture change required. Bring your own bags.

Why not just leave the boxes out, then no bags are needed? And the
boxes can go into recycling afterward.

Some time ago my local Raitwose stopped providing boxes, I asked about
this and was told
a. they were considered a fire risk
b. if the boxes were provided to customers then Raitwose couldn't
guarantee that they would be recycled and they would miss their
targets.

The boxes have reappeared now.


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"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:48253391@qaanaaq...

For example, zoning restrictions in France initially controlled th growth
of large hypermarkets such as Carrefour and Auchan but permitted smaller
format stores such as Lidl to establish a presence. The latter has begun
to lead to the demise of the specialist retailers of each food type who
have traditionally sold the best quality products.

I still see very few Lidls - the place still seems to be dominated by the
French brands, who have all sizes of store, and aren't the massive
discounters that Lidl are.

clive

In message et, Dave
Liquorice wrote

They cost £1 each and have lasted 3 years so far.

I object to the heavy branding on a bag I have bought. If the shop wants
me to carry an durable advert for them they ought to be paying me... I
don't mind a small logo but not the name emblazoned on all 4 sides.

My bags are not branded - I think they are sold as laundry bags and are
made of a material similar to that used in thinner tarpaulin sheets.

--
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In article et,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
I object to the heavy branding on a bag I have bought. If the shop wants
me to carry an durable advert for them they ought to be paying me... I
don't mind a small logo but not the name emblazoned on all 4 sides.

Aw c'mon Dave, you should be used to product placement given the shows you
work on.

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On 9 May, 21:21, Andy Hall wrote:
Certainly is, I bought one last time they were in, brilliant for the money.

I'm always concerned when the qualifier "for the money" is added.
Either a product does the job or it doesn't.

It also changes which jobs it's suitable for.

I bought one of these a year or two back. It's not precise enough for
most things involving metalwork, but it was just the job for making
halved-joints in slate slab to make cremation urns. A molten lead or
sulphur "glue" across the joint hides imperfections.

On 2008-05-10 09:24:10 +0100, "dennis@home"
said:



"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:48252b8d@qaanaaq...
On 2008-05-09 22:51:36 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Spose it depends on wether you want an extreemly good angle grinder stand
for £8 or not.

I haven't seen any promotions for Jaffa cakes in B&Q........



I have. Toolstation and screwfix do free coffee, the first steps into
food retailing or being a cafe. You had better not shop there.

Screwfix do some warm liquid from a vending machine. I wouldn't
describe it as coffee.

On 2008-05-10 09:05:20 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
said:

In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
I have. Toolstation and screwfix do free coffee, the first steps into
food retailing or being a cafe. You had better not shop there.

Given the time I had to wait at the Croydon branch of Screwfix last time
I'd rather they spent the money on improving the service. Perhaps online
ordering for immediate collection at the store - or user terminals as in
Argos.

On line ordering for collection would be ideal. RS manage it, so I
don't see why Kingfisher's retail operations can't

On 2008-05-10 08:09:19 +0100, "Doctor Drivel" said:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:48253391@qaanaaq...
On 2008-05-10 00:27:08 +0100, "The Medway Handyman"
said:

Andy Hall wrote:

As it is, the excitement is about a 4th rate grocery warehouse trying
to sell any old tat that happens to come in the next container from
Shanghai

Except that Aldi aren't a 4th rate grocer in most of Europe, they take a
significant percentage of the market.

In their home market of Germany they do, but in other countries they
are not major players.

I noticed since the food price hypes, Lidle, Netto and Aldi have been
very busy. A good line on Jaffa cakes too.

For people who buy food on price, I suppose that's understandable.

On 2008-05-10 12:36:09 +0100, "Clive George" said:

"Andy Hall" wrote in message news:48253391@qaanaaq...

For example, zoning restrictions in France initially controlled th
growth of large hypermarkets such as Carrefour and Auchan but permitted
smaller format stores such as Lidl to establish a presence. The
latter has begun to lead to the demise of the specialist retailers of
each food type who have traditionally sold the best quality products.

I still see very few Lidls - the place still seems to be dominated by
the French brands, who have all sizes of store, and aren't the massive
discounters that Lidl are.

clive

Fortunately that's still largely true. The smaller format stores are
typically Intermarche, but the Lidl disease is beginning to appear.