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I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM -- (º·.¸(¨*·.¸ ¸.·*¨)¸.·º) .·°·. NIK .·°·. (¸.·º(¸.·¨* *¨·.¸)º·.¸) |
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"NikV" wrote in message ... Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have the kitchen tap off the mains. For the hot and cold water for the rest of the house use one of these, as it fits nicely in the loft. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...ower/index.htm You can take the shower off it The cold taps can be taken off it and the hot taps too giving good mixing at the basins and bath. It is heated from a normal system boiler. It is less than 6 foot high and takes about the same amount of space as Megaflow. What is gives is high flow at atmospheric pressures. All the taps, except the shower mixer are low pressure. The kitchen mixer has to be high pressure cold low pressure hot. Cheap and highly effective, no cold tanks or high pressure cylinders that may blow up and needing 28mm blow-off pipes. It can go in the loft out of the way. Then, when money is available, best to buy a condensing combi and only have the shower off the combi water section to give a high pressure mains fed shower. The shower is the only draw-off that requires high pressure, the rest need "flow". The CH part of the combi will be the same as a normal system with 3-way valve heating the cylinder and the radiators. |
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:46:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote: "NikV" wrote in message ... Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have the kitchen tap off the mains. For the hot and cold water for the rest of the house use one of these, as it fits nicely in the loft. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...ower/index.htm You can take the shower off it The cold taps can be taken off it and the hot taps too giving good mixing at the basins and bath. It is heated from a normal system boiler. Are you certain about that? There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... This one obviously is though... http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...mpak/index.htm -- ..andy |
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:20:52 -0000, "NikV"
wrote: Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have a look at Polytank http://www.polytank.co.uk/poltankcoffin.html You will need to come up with a substantial way to support the weight of course. The feed pipe and the vent pipes should both be plumbed in 28mm to avoid air being sucked down the vent pipe when water is drawn off. With shallow tanks of this type, it is a good idea to use a Torbeck valve rather than regular ball valve. The reason is that the level rises very slowly and a regular valve will trickle for a long time and may be noisy. The Torbeck shuts off positively when the level is reached. -- ..andy |
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:20:52 -0000, "NikV"
wrote: Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Try a google for "coffin" tanks. They are shaped as you'd expect with a name like that. I've got one as there wasn't room for a conventional tank. The surface of the water in my cold tank is about four feet above the top of the hot water tank but I don't know what the minimum is, just that it is presumably less than this. In fact, other than it being positive is there any minimum value and, if so, why ? Cheers, John |
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NikV wrote: I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. It's the sort of thing your local plumber's merchant should be able to help with. -- *Friends help you move. Real friends help you move bodies. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:46:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "NikV" wrote in message ... Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have the kitchen tap off the mains. For the hot and cold water for the rest of the house use one of these, as it fits nicely in the loft. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...ower/index.htm You can take the shower off it The cold taps can be taken off it and the hot taps too giving good mixing at the basins and bath. It is heated from a normal system boiler. Are you certain about that? Yep. There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... An indirect version can be specified, with either Part L or quick recovery coil. Use one of these where you would use a Megaflow and have a combi only do the shower for high pressures and this is a very cheap way of having high pressure showers (from the mains), high flows to baths and low pressure mixing. So, if your mains pressure is 4 Bar it is quite cheap as no £500 4 bar shower pump is required. No annual invented service call, and no high pressures, that wear out tap washers, ect. Combis are about the same price as system boiler, so no expensive power shower pumps. Can go anywhere a Megflow can, as long as it is above the highest draw-off, excepting the shower. This one obviously is though... http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...mpak/index.htm Far more bulky than a cylinder 6 les than foot high. |
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"John Anderton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:20:52 -0000, "NikV" wrote: Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Try a google for "coffin" tanks. They are shaped as you'd expect with a name like that. I've got one as there wasn't room for a conventional tank. The surface of the water in my cold tank is about four feet above the top of the hot water tank but I don't know what the minimum is, just that it is presumably less than this. In fact, other than it being positive is there any minimum value and, if so, why ? What he needs is a combi cylinder. I gave the link. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article , NikV wrote: I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. It's the sort of thing your local plumber's merchant should be able to help with. What a soild bit of senile advice |
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:01:55 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:46:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "NikV" wrote in message ... Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have the kitchen tap off the mains. For the hot and cold water for the rest of the house use one of these, as it fits nicely in the loft. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...ower/index.htm You can take the shower off it The cold taps can be taken off it and the hot taps too giving good mixing at the basins and bath. It is heated from a normal system boiler. Are you certain about that? Yep. There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... An indirect version can be specified, with either Part L or quick recovery coil. Not mentioned on their web site that I could see. Do you have a reference for that and the price? This one obviously is though... http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...mpak/index.htm Far more bulky than a cylinder 6 les than foot high. That is rather overstating it. The combi/shower is 1900mm high vs. the 2050mm of the formpak The footprint is larger at 800x600 than the 500mm of the combi/shower, but it would be surprising if that were an issue in an attic able to accommodate the height since way more than this floor area would be implied. All of which is somewhat academic since the question really suggested a coffin tank as the solution, since this will have the least cost. -- ..andy |
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:04:20 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote: "John Anderton" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:20:52 -0000, "NikV" wrote: Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Try a google for "coffin" tanks. They are shaped as you'd expect with a name like that. I've got one as there wasn't room for a conventional tank. The surface of the water in my cold tank is about four feet above the top of the hot water tank but I don't know what the minimum is, just that it is presumably less than this. In fact, other than it being positive is there any minimum value and, if so, why ? What he needs is a combi cylinder. Why ? What advantage would that give him over a standard hot water cylinder and a coffin tank both placed in the loft ? I gave the link. To something that may well be very useful when living somewhere with no loft but may not be best for the OP especially when it's likely to be more expensive (assuming the existing hot cylinder can be re-used) Cheers, John |
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"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:01:55 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:46:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "NikV" wrote in message ... Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have the kitchen tap off the mains. For the hot and cold water for the rest of the house use one of these, as it fits nicely in the loft. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...ower/index.htm You can take the shower off it The cold taps can be taken off it and the hot taps too giving good mixing at the basins and bath. It is heated from a normal system boiler. Are you certain about that? Yep. There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... An indirect version can be specified, with either Part L or quick recovery coil. Not mentioned on their web site that I could see. Do you have a reference for that and the price? Contact them. Price? A long time ago but it was cheaper than a Megaflow. The combi was the same price as a system boiler. The water section of the combi just replaced a noisy space taking power shower pump, and saved money again, giving a higher pressure shower. This one obviously is though... http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...mpak/index.htm Far more bulky than a cylinder 6 less than foot high. That is rather overstating it. No. Just look at the sizes. It is a cylinder that is les that 6 foot high and quite slim too. The combi/shower is 1900mm high vs. the 2050mm of the formpak The formpack is bulky that is clear. Look at the picture of both next to each other. The combi/shower is also heavily insulated all over and looks far neater than a frame with a rank and cylinder. The footprint is larger at 800x600 than the 500mm of the combi/shower, but it would be surprising if that were an issue in an attic able to accommodate the height since way more than this floor area would be implied. The combi/shower is easy to fit. No assembling. All of which is somewhat academic since the question really suggested a coffin tank as the solution, since this will have the least cost. You don't know if that is the solution at all. The great thing about the combi/shower is that is can be fitted and when the boiler goes, a combi is bought for the shower. |
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"John Anderton" wrote in message ... On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:04:20 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "John Anderton" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:20:52 -0000, "NikV" wrote: Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Try a google for "coffin" tanks. They are shaped as you'd expect with a name like that. I've got one as there wasn't room for a conventional tank. The surface of the water in my cold tank is about four feet above the top of the hot water tank but I don't know what the minimum is, just that it is presumably less than this. In fact, other than it being positive is there any minimum value and, if so, why ? What he needs is a combi cylinder. Why ? What advantage would that give him over a standard hot water cylinder and a coffin tank both placed in the loft ? I gave the link. To something that may well be very useful when living somewhere with no loft but may not be best for the OP especially when it's likely to be more expensive (assuming the existing hot cylinder can be re-used) See other post. |
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"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message reenews.net... "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:01:55 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:46:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "NikV" wrote in message ... Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have the kitchen tap off the mains. For the hot and cold water for the rest of the house use one of these, as it fits nicely in the loft. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...ower/index.htm You can take the shower off it The cold taps can be taken off it and the hot taps too giving good mixing at the basins and bath. It is heated from a normal system boiler. Are you certain about that? Yep. There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... An indirect version can be specified, with either Part L or quick recovery coil. Not mentioned on their web site that I could see. Do you have a reference for that and the price? Contact them. Price? A long time ago but it was cheaper than a Megaflow. The combi was the same price as a system boiler. The water section of the combi just replaced a noisy space taking power shower pump, and saved money again, giving a higher pressure shower. I have used cheaper combi cylinders, with smaller tanks, "and " the cold water was taken off the combi tank too by cutting a hole in it us fitting a tabk connector. Most using combi cylinders have the cold off the mains. I ran a 22mm cold water mains pipe to the combi cylinder (somnetimes called a Fortric). A 3/4" brass ballcock was fitted, so the fill up was very fast. Look at it this way. An unvented cylinder is a mains pipe in and a hot draw-off out. This method is the same except it has an air break in the mains pipe. It can still take the full flow of the mains pipe. |
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On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:12:04 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote: "Andy Hall" wrote in message There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... An indirect version can be specified, with either Part L or quick recovery coil. Not mentioned on their web site that I could see. Do you have a reference for that and the price? Contact them. Why should I? You made the assertion. You justify it. Price? A long time ago but it was cheaper than a Megaflow. I would hope it would be. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...mpak/index.htm Far more bulky than a cylinder 6 less than foot high. That is rather overstating it. No. Just look at the sizes. It is a cylinder that is les that 6 foot high and quite slim too. I did look at the sizes and not at the pictures. The combi/shower is 1900mm high vs. the 2050mm of the formpak The formpack is bulky that is clear. Look at the picture of both next to each other. It's a cut and paste job. All of which is somewhat academic since the question really suggested a coffin tank as the solution, since this will have the least cost. You don't know if that is the solution at all. Really? From the original post... "Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything." Please explain how the combi/shower fits that description as well as the desire for minimum cost. The great thing about the combi/shower is that is can be fitted and when the boiler goes, a combi is bought for the shower. That would assume suitability of a combi for the application. How is the hind leg collection coming along? You should have enough to feed the entire tower block fairly soon.... -- ..andy |
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-- (º·.¸(¨*·.¸ ¸.·*¨)¸.·º) .·°·. NIK .·°·. (¸.·º(¸.·¨* *¨·.¸)º·.¸) "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:20:52 -0000, "NikV" Have a look at Polytank http://www.polytank.co.uk/poltankcoffin.html You will need to come up with a substantial way to support the weight of course. The feed pipe and the vent pipes should both be plumbed in 28mm to avoid air being sucked down the vent pipe when water is drawn off. With shallow tanks of this type, it is a good idea to use a Torbeck valve rather than regular ball valve. The reason is that the level rises very slowly and a regular valve will trickle for a long time and may be noisy. The Torbeck shuts off positively when the level is reached. Thank-you - just what I was looking for - just missing the word 'coffin' -- (º·.¸(¨*·.¸ ¸.·*¨)¸.·º) .·°·. NIK .·°·. (¸.·º(¸.·¨* *¨·.¸)º·.¸) |
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"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message ... On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:12:04 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... An indirect version can be specified, with either Part L or quick recovery coil. Not mentioned on their web site that I could see. Do you have a reference for that and the price? Contact them. Why should I? You made the assertion. You justify it. Matt, you mean you don't want one? Price? A long time ago but it was cheaper than a Megaflow. I would hope it would be. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...mpak/index.htm Far more bulky than a cylinder 6 less than foot high. That is rather overstating it. No. Just look at the sizes. It is a cylinder that is les that 6 foot high and quite slim too. I did look at the sizes and not at the pictures. A picture say a 1000 words. The combi/shower is 1900mm high vs. the 2050mm of the formpak The formpack is bulky that is clear. Look at the picture of both next to each other. It's a cut and paste job. You are making that up. All of which is somewhat academic since the question really suggested a coffin tank as the solution, since this will have the least cost. You don't know if that is the solution at all. Really? Yep. The great thing about the combi/shower is that is can be fitted and when the boiler goes, a combi is bought for the shower. That would assume suitability of a combi for the application. Many type of combi available ** snip Mattness ** |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: It's the sort of thing your local plumber's merchant should be able to help with. What a soild bit of senile advice What's 'soild', **** for brains? -- *A journey of a thousand sites begins with a single click * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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NikV wrote: Thank-you - just what I was looking for - just missing the word 'coffin' Glad you've ignored dribble's attempt to waste your money. Pay careful attention to the pipe runs using a pipe bender rather than elbows to minimise flow restriction. -- *Ah, I see the f**k-up fairy has visited us again Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: It's the sort of thing your local plumber's merchant should be able to help with. What a soild bit of senile advice What's 'soild' ** snip senility ** |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: What a soild bit of senile advice What's 'soild' ** snip senility ** Seems to me someone who doesn't understand the meaning of the words they write and is unable to use a spell checker is the senile one. Or just **** for brains, of course. -- *Many hamsters only blink one eye at a time * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: What a soild bit of senile advice What's 'soild' ** snip senility ** Seems ** snip confused senility ** |
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Doctor Drivel scribed: "Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: What a soild bit of senile advice What's 'soild' ** snip senility ** Seems ** snip confused senility ** Do you consider psychiatry as one of your D-I-Y skills? If so, may I suggest a more appropriate group for it? Cheers. N. |
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"nrh" wrote in message k... In eenews.net, Doctor Drivel scribed: "Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: What a soild bit of senile advice What's 'soild' ** snip senility ** Seems ** snip confused senility ** Do you consider psychiatry as one of your D-I-Y skills? If so, may I suggest a more appropriate group for it? I would like to help the afflicted here, but alas my skills are limited in this area. Can you suggest a group for the uk.d-i-y Lunatic Association? They get to wear yellow boots you know. |
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On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:32:25 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote: I would like to help the afflicted here, but alas my skills are limited in this area. ? They are in most aren't they? -- ..andy |
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"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:32:25 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: I would like to help the afflicted here, but alas my skills are limited in this area. ? They are in most aren't they? Matt, in most mental fields I am clearly limited so I can't help you much with your problem. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: I would like to help but alas my skills are limited in this area. You never said a truer word. After all, most know what a hacksaw can and cannot be used for without flooding the street. -- *If love is blind, why is lingerie so popular? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: Matt, in most mental fields I am clearly limited so I can't help you much with your problem. Perhaps you should try your magnetic water softener round your head, then? This might improve your mental field. -- *El nino made me do it Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: Matt, in most mental fields I am clearly limited so I can't help you much with your problem. Perhaps ** snip senile babble ** The man is such an idiot. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: I would like to help but alas my skills are limited in this area. You never said a truer word. Mr Cranium, there are better people around that can help you than me. ** snip babbling idiotic senility ** |
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On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:54:05 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote: "Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message .. . On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:32:25 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: I would like to help the afflicted here, but alas my skills are limited in this area. ? They are in most aren't they? Matt, in most mental fields I am clearly limited so I can't help you much with your problem. I think that we understand that only too well..... -- ..andy |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: I would like to help but alas my skills are limited in this area. You never said a truer word. Mr Cranium, there are better people around that can help you than me. You never said a truer word. -- *All men are idiots, and I married their King. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message ... On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:54:05 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message .. . On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:32:25 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: I would like to help the afflicted here, but alas my skills are limited in this area. ? They are in most aren't they? Matt, in most mental fields I am clearly limited so I can't help you much with your problem. I think that we understand that only too well..... Matt, I can refer you a professional for a full mental analysis. I just saw one in Yellow pages for you. |
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Doctor Drivel wrote: Matt, I can refer you a professional for a full mental analysis. I just saw one in Yellow pages for you. Searching for a plumber to sort your leaks again? -- *Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Andy Hall wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:46:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "NikV" wrote in message ... Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have the kitchen tap off the mains. For the hot and cold water for the rest of the house use one of these, as it fits nicely in the loft. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...ower/index.htm You can take the shower off it The cold taps can be taken off it and the hot taps too giving good mixing at the basins and bath. It is heated from a normal system boiler. Are you certain about that? There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... I have used one of these combi cylinders and a combi boiler for only shower use. Worked a treat. Easy and quick to install as the cylinder was all one unit being fitted in the loft. The cold mains pipe could not supply a full mains pressure system, yet could do a very good shower. I used a W-B Junior combi boiler, also in the loft, on the end gable wall. A great solution I got from IMM here two or three years ago. I always look at combis as the first option for obvious reasons, then a Rinnai multi-point and system boiler, then the combi cylinder and combi boiler method, then a thermal store. Megaflows require a plumber with an unvented ticket and that is out for me. IMM mentioned a 76 KW combi. This would solve many of my problems even if a larger meter was installed. Cost considerations of course. I have noticed that 40 KW is about the largest combi power rating, which is not that great on flowrate, then a big jump to 76 KW. Anyone know of a 55KW combi? That would be ideal if the flow rate is around 25 litres a minute. The only way to fill this gap to get the flow rates is install two combis, which I did about 4 or 5 years ago, again using W-B Juniors, and one since. This one obviously is though... http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...mpak/index.htm -- .andy |
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wrote: Andy Hall wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 16:46:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel" wrote: "NikV" wrote in message ... Hi I've got to gain space in our small bedroom so I want to put the hot water tank in the loft, how high above the top of the hot water tank should the water surface of the cold water tank be. Has anybody got any links to sites with cold water tanks which will fit high up in the ridge - I've googled but can't find anything. Any advice welcome - ps can't afford to change from the current open vented system ATM Have the kitchen tap off the mains. For the hot and cold water for the rest of the house use one of these, as it fits nicely in the loft. http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...ower/index.htm You can take the shower off it The cold taps can be taken off it and the hot taps too giving good mixing at the basins and bath. It is heated from a normal system boiler. Are you certain about that? There are no mention of boiler connections and none are shown.... I have used one of these combi cylinders and a combi boiler for only shower use. Worked a treat. Easy and quick to install as the cylinder was all one unit being fitted in the loft. The cold mains pipe could not supply a full mains pressure system, yet could do a very good shower. I used a W-B Junior combi boiler, also in the loft, on the end gable wall. A great solution I got from IMM here two or three years ago. I always look at combis as the first option for obvious reasons, then a Rinnai multi-point and system boiler, then the combi cylinder and combi boiler method, then a thermal store. Megaflows require a plumber with an unvented ticket and that is out for me. IMM mentioned a 76 KW combi. This would solve many of my problems even if a larger meter was installed. Cost considerations of course. I have noticed that 40 KW is about the largest combi power rating, which is not that great on flowrate, then a big jump to 76 KW. Anyone know of a 55KW combi? That would be ideal if the flow rate is around 25 litres a minute. The only way to fill this gap to get the flow rates is install two combis, which I did about 4 or 5 years ago, again using W-B Juniors, and one since. I just read this again. I am on about wall mounted combis. I know there are floor mounted combis that will give the flow rates. These are not too good in large flats because of space. This one obviously is though... http://www.rcmgroup.co.uk/specialize...mpak/index.htm -- .andy |
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... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: What a soild bit of senile advice What's 'soild' ** snip senility ** Seems to me someone who doesn't understand the meaning of the words they write and is unable to use a spell checker is the senile one. Or just **** for brains, of course. -- *Many hamsters only blink one eye at a time * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. Thought you were talking to yourself there - must have killfiled Mr Snivel from before !! -- (º·.¸(¨*·.¸ ¸.·*¨)¸.·º) .·°·. NIK .·°·. (¸.·º(¸.·¨* *¨·.¸)º·.¸) "Dave Plowman (News |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: Matt, I can refer you a professional for a full mental analysis. I just saw one in Yellow pages for you. Searching for a plumber to sort your leaks again? Richard, there are lots of leaks from your brain that is for certain. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" through a haze of senile flatulence wrote in message ... In article ews.net, Doctor Drivel wrote: I would like to help but alas my skills are limited in this area. You never said a truer word. Mr Cranium, there are better people around that can help you than me. You never said a truer word. These people tend to wear white coats. |
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