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Electrical Sockets
Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st
fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! So any help would be appreciated. |
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Mark wrote: Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! If you're going to tile, I'd make sure they are in the middle of a tile run at least 4" above the worktops to the bottom of a socket. -- *A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Mark" writes: Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! So any help would be appreciated. You need to decide what height above the worktop you want them. A typical figure an electrician would use in the absence of any other info is 105cm from the floor surface to the bottom of the back box. Don't forget to add on the thickness of any flooring which isn't yet fitted though. -- Andrew Gabriel |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Mark wrote: Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! If you're going to tile, I'd make sure they are in the middle of a tile run at least 4" above the worktops to the bottom of a socket. I like 6" to the bottom of the box so the first tile sits nicely under the socket, then 18" above that to the wall units. Can leave you with a couple of L shaped tiles to cut in the 2nd row though. |
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Stuart Noble wrote: If you're going to tile, I'd make sure they are in the middle of a tile run at least 4" above the worktops to the bottom of a socket. I like 6" to the bottom of the box so the first tile sits nicely under the socket, then 18" above that to the wall units. That would also be fine, but of course depends on the size of the tiles. Can leave you with a couple of L shaped tiles to cut in the 2nd row though. No problem with an electric tile cutter. ;-) -- *Some days you're the dog, some days the hydrant. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes In article , Stuart Noble wrote: If you're going to tile, I'd make sure they are in the middle of a tile run at least 4" above the worktops to the bottom of a socket. I like 6" to the bottom of the box so the first tile sits nicely under the socket, then 18" above that to the wall units. That would also be fine, but of course depends on the size of the tiles. Personally I prefer them higher than that, so they are up out of the way of worktop clutter. but as long as the person using them is happy I don't think it matters -- Chris French |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Stuart Noble wrote: If you're going to tile, I'd make sure they are in the middle of a tile run at least 4" above the worktops to the bottom of a socket. I like 6" to the bottom of the box so the first tile sits nicely under the socket, then 18" above that to the wall units. That would also be fine, but of course depends on the size of the tiles. Can leave you with a couple of L shaped tiles to cut in the 2nd row though. No problem with an electric tile cutter. ;-) I might just agree with you there, but I'll still do the other 99% of the cuts without :-) |
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Stuart Noble wrote: Can leave you with a couple of L shaped tiles to cut in the 2nd row though. No problem with an electric tile cutter. ;-) I might just agree with you there, but I'll still do the other 99% of the cuts without :-) I prefer a perfect edge on all my cut tiles regardless of the time taken. ;-) -- *Being healthy is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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in 434951 20050806 124052 "Mark" wrote:
Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! So any help would be appreciated. Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? |
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Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? Part P police are on the way as we speak...... Dave |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 08:10:34 GMT, Bob Martin
wrote: Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? No. -- Frank Erskine |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Stuart Noble wrote: Can leave you with a couple of L shaped tiles to cut in the 2nd row though. No problem with an electric tile cutter. ;-) I might just agree with you there, but I'll still do the other 99% of the cuts without :-) I prefer a perfect edge on all my cut tiles regardless of the time taken. ;-) therin lies madness :-) |
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In message , Bob Martin
writes in 434951 20050806 124052 "Mark" wrote: Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! So any help would be appreciated. Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? Who cares ? -- geoff |
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In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote: I might just agree with you there, but I'll still do the other 99% of the cuts without :-) I prefer a perfect edge on all my cut tiles regardless of the time taken. ;-) therin lies madness :-) Heh heh. I actually like to take my time when tiling, as with much else DIY. Madness, probably. But then I don't feel inclined to need to do a makeover every couple of years. ;-) Never one to follow fashion. -- *Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Stuart Noble wrote: I might just agree with you there, but I'll still do the other 99% of the cuts without :-) I prefer a perfect edge on all my cut tiles regardless of the time taken. ;-) therin lies madness :-) Heh heh. I actually like to take my time when tiling, as with much else DIY. Madness, probably. But then I don't feel inclined to need to do a makeover every couple of years. ;-) Never one to follow fashion. That should not be a problem. If you do nothing drastic or rash to the house decorations (especially an older property) then every so often you will be back in fashion. I do believe that wall papering ceilings is now coming back into fashion. I wonder if people will paper straight over the holes they made last year in an attempt to have fashionable spot lighting in their lounge. Adam |
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 21:18:32 GMT,it is alleged that "ARWadsworth"
spake thusly in uk.d-i-y: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Stuart Noble wrote: I might just agree with you there, but I'll still do the other 99% of the cuts without :-) I prefer a perfect edge on all my cut tiles regardless of the time taken. ;-) therin lies madness :-) Heh heh. I actually like to take my time when tiling, as with much else DIY. Madness, probably. But then I don't feel inclined to need to do a makeover every couple of years. ;-) Never one to follow fashion. That should not be a problem. If you do nothing drastic or rash to the house decorations (especially an older property) then every so often you will be back in fashion. I do believe that wall papering ceilings is now coming back into fashion. I wonder if people will paper straight over the holes they made last year in an attempt to have fashionable spot lighting in their lounge. Adam Shouldn't have had to make holes last year, the ones from the 70s would have been good enough g -- There are three things which I consider excellent advice. First, don't smoke to excess. Second, don't drink to excess. Third, don't marry to excess. - Mark Twain |
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raden wrote:
In message , Bob Martin writes in 434951 20050806 124052 "Mark" wrote: Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! So any help would be appreciated. Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? Who cares ? 1st fix is the cutting and chasing isn't it. Whats electrical about hole s and channels? Paul |
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On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 15:48:44 +0100, Paul wrote:
raden wrote: In message , Bob Martin writes in 434951 20050806 124052 "Mark" wrote: Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! So any help would be appreciated. Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? Who cares ? 1st fix is the cutting and chasing isn't it. Whats electrical about hole s and channels? Where they go. -- Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter. The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk Gas fitting FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/GasFitting.html Sealed CH FAQ http://www.makewrite.demon.co.uk/SealedCH.html |
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in 440713 20050824 084551 Part P Avoider wrote:
Bob Martin Wrote: in 434951 20050806 124052 "Mark" wrote:- Hi, I am about to install a fitted kitchen, but would like to do all the 1st fix electrics myself. What I would like to know is, what is the ideal height within the kitchen to chase the walls for wiring and back boxes for the sockets? The current sockets fitted by the previous owner are all at different heights, believe me no two sockets are the same height! So any help would be appreciated.- Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? Yes, but that never stop any competent DIY doing it! After all, how the hell are they going to catch you? And say they did catch you (hypothetically) how can they prove that you did it? Just blame the previous owners of your house! That won't work, I've been here 40 years! |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bob Martin wrote: Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? Yes, but that never stop any competent DIY doing it! After all, how the hell are they going to catch you? And say they did catch you (hypothetically) how can they prove that you did it? Just blame the previous owners of your house! That won't work, I've been here 40 years! The important question is whether they can prove that you did it *after* the introduction of Part P. Prior to that, it was perfectly legal to DIY without having it inspected. -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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in 440860 20050824 174343 "Set Square" wrote:
In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Bob Martin wrote: Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? Yes, but that never stop any competent DIY doing it! After all, how the hell are they going to catch you? And say they did catch you (hypothetically) how can they prove that you did it? Just blame the previous owners of your house! That won't work, I've been here 40 years! The important question is whether they can prove that you did it *after* the introduction of Part P. Prior to that, it was perfectly legal to DIY without having it inspected. Knowing my luck the parts I used probably have some hidden date code. |
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Bob Martin wrote: in 440860 20050824 174343 "Set Square" wrote: In an earlier contribution to this discussion, Bob Martin wrote: Aren't we forbidden to do our own electrics under recent legislation? Yes, but that never stop any competent DIY doing it! After all, how the hell are they going to catch you? And say they did catch you (hypothetically) how can they prove that you did it? Just blame the previous owners of your house! That won't work, I've been here 40 years! The important question is whether they can prove that you did it *after* the introduction of Part P. Prior to that, it was perfectly legal to DIY without having it inspected. Knowing my luck the parts I used probably have some hidden date code. Ah well, I've got a fairly good stock of old parts and 'old colour' cable! -- Cheers, Set Square ______ Please reply to newsgroup. Reply address is invalid. |
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