This could be a interesting topic for all you DIYers' out there..
I live in a detached house converted into three flats. I`m in the middle
part of the building with someone above me and someone below.
I've been renovating my flat for roughly 5 yrs on and off with the bulk of
the work being done in the evenings and weekends as I have an office job
during the day. Most of the time the work doesn't involve a great deal of
noise or disruption and I tend to leave the big jobs to the weekend. The guy
below me has been renovating also for a similar amount of time but has
mainly had tradesmen in to do the work. The people above me aren't doing any
work but are pretty laid back and aren't bothered about me working on the
flat.
All has been pretty good until recently when I have started renovating a
room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives below me. He tends to get
up early 6-7am whereas I typically don't. As such we've clashed recently
with him complaining about me banging around at about 10pm. I try and get
the noisy jobs done before 10pm or leave it to the weekend if its going to
be really noisy (such as major drilling or hammering). Unfortunately in this
case I was trying to get a bit of plumbing work done under the floorboards
and he was trying to get to bed early.
He is well aware I'm doing the work and up until recently he's only
complained a couple of times when I really was taking the p*ss (on both
occasions I actually thought he wasn't in !).
I wondered what similar peoples experiences are and if there are any
specific laws around to state when you can and can't work and at what level.
The only law I`ve found is the 'Noise Act 1996' which talks about penalties
for night time noise between 11pm and 7am. Everything else seems to be
subjective based upon actual noise level and circumstances. As such I can't
really gauge what noise I am entitled to make and when. My only argument at
the moment is that I can spend a couple intensive months getting the noisy
jobs done or spend a couple of years doing 1 hr a night until its finished.
I tend to also weigh in that I don't complain about his TV being too loud or
them stomping around on their wooden floor. Bit of give and take I say ...
Anyone else had this problem or come across the law on this one ?!

Steve

Steve wrote:
All has been pretty good until recently when I have started renovating a
room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives below me. He tends to get
up early 6-7am whereas I typically don't. As such we've clashed recently
with him complaining about me banging around at about 10pm. I try and get
the noisy jobs done before 10pm or leave it to the weekend if its going to
be really noisy (such as major drilling or hammering).

Personally I think 10pm is way too late for noisy DIY, especially if
it's going on over a long period; I'm not surprised the guy's
complained. I'd have thought 7-8pm was a more realistic cutoff time.

One strategy I've usually adopted, to minimise whinging neighbours,
wherever I've been living/working and been doing diy work over a long
period, is to decide on a suitable end time to noisy work and then stick
to it. That way, if you're knocking seven bells out of a wall at
7.15pm, the neighbours will be hopefully be thinking, 'ah well at least
it will be stopping in 15 minutes', as opposed to 'Oh God, how much
longer will the bugger be going on for tonight?'

Your guy doesn't sound unreasonable to me if he doesn't complain until
10pm - why don't you have a chat and come to a mutually agreed time at
which you promise to down tools? And when you're finished, bung him a
few bottles of wine in the interests of good neighbour relations (and so
he doesn't throw a hissy fit when your next project starts!)

David

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Steve wrote:

This could be a interesting topic for all you DIYers' out there..
I live in a detached house converted into three flats. I`m in the
middle part of the building with someone above me and someone below.
I've been renovating my flat for roughly 5 yrs on and off with the
bulk of the work being done in the evenings and weekends as I have an
office job during the day. Most of the time the work doesn't involve
a great deal of noise or disruption and I tend to leave the big jobs
to the weekend. The guy below me has been renovating also for a
similar amount of time but has mainly had tradesmen in to do the
work. The people above me aren't doing any work but are pretty laid
back and aren't bothered about me working on the flat.
All has been pretty good until recently when I have started
renovating a room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives below
me. He tends to get up early 6-7am whereas I typically don't. As such
we've clashed recently with him complaining about me banging around
at about 10pm. I try and get the noisy jobs done before 10pm or leave
it to the weekend if its going to be really noisy (such as major
drilling or hammering). Unfortunately in this case I was trying to
get a bit of plumbing work done under the floorboards and he was
trying to get to bed early.
He is well aware I'm doing the work and up until recently he's only
complained a couple of times when I really was taking the p*ss (on
both occasions I actually thought he wasn't in !).
I wondered what similar peoples experiences are and if there are any
specific laws around to state when you can and can't work and at what
level. The only law I`ve found is the 'Noise Act 1996' which talks
about penalties for night time noise between 11pm and 7am. Everything
else seems to be subjective based upon actual noise level and
circumstances. As such I can't really gauge what noise I am entitled
to make and when. My only argument at the moment is that I can spend
a couple intensive months getting the noisy jobs done or spend a
couple of years doing 1 hr a night until its finished. I tend to also
weigh in that I don't complain about his TV being too loud or them
stomping around on their wooden floor. Bit of give and take I say ...
Anyone else had this problem or come across the law on this one ?!

Steve

Invoking any sort of law should surely be very much the last resort - if
you're hoping to continue any sort of peaceful co-existence.

Is your neighbour out during the daytime? If you want to do something
*really* noisy, couldn't you take a day's holiday from work, and do it when
he's out?
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Set Square
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Steve wrote:
All has been pretty good until recently when I have started
renovating a room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives
below me. He tends to get up early 6-7am whereas I typically
don't. As such we've clashed recently with him complaining about
me banging around at about 10pm. I try and get the noisy jobs
done before 10pm or leave it to the weekend if its going to be
really noisy (such as major drilling or hammering). Unfortunately
in this case I was trying to get a bit of plumbing work done
under the floorboards and he was trying to get to bed early.

I would find it very hard to sleep if you were plumbing directly above my
bed, and my sympathies tend to be with him.

"Steve" wrote in message
...
This could be a interesting topic for all you DIYers' out there..
I live in a detached house converted into three flats. I`m in the middle
part of the building with someone above me and someone below.
I've been renovating my flat for roughly 5 yrs on and off with the bulk of
the work being done in the evenings and weekends as I have an office job
during the day. Most of the time the work doesn't involve a great deal of
noise or disruption and I tend to leave the big jobs to the weekend. The
guy
below me has been renovating also for a similar amount of time but has
mainly had tradesmen in to do the work. The people above me aren't doing
any
work but are pretty laid back and aren't bothered about me working on the
flat.
All has been pretty good until recently when I have started renovating a
room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives below me. He tends to
get
up early 6-7am whereas I typically don't. As such we've clashed recently
with him complaining about me banging around at about 10pm. I try and get
the noisy jobs done before 10pm or leave it to the weekend if its going to
be really noisy (such as major drilling or hammering). Unfortunately in
this
case I was trying to get a bit of plumbing work done under the floorboards
and he was trying to get to bed early.
He is well aware I'm doing the work and up until recently he's only
complained a couple of times when I really was taking the p*ss (on both
occasions I actually thought he wasn't in !).
I wondered what similar peoples experiences are and if there are any
specific laws around to state when you can and can't work and at what
level.
The only law I`ve found is the 'Noise Act 1996' which talks about
penalties
for night time noise between 11pm and 7am. Everything else seems to be
subjective based upon actual noise level and circumstances. As such I
can't
really gauge what noise I am entitled to make and when. My only argument
at
the moment is that I can spend a couple intensive months getting the noisy
jobs done or spend a couple of years doing 1 hr a night until its
finished.
I tend to also weigh in that I don't complain about his TV being too loud
or
them stomping around on their wooden floor. Bit of give and take I say ...
Anyone else had this problem or come across the law on this one ?!

Steve

It is really down to being a good neighbour on this type of thing, unless
you deliberately make noise right through the night while you know others
are trying to sleep.

If you've researched a bit of this already, then you'll have found that you
are entitled to make noise up to a certain Decibel level in opposing
properties up until a certain time at night, but even this isn't really fair
on a neighbour that you know is an early bedder in some cases.

The best way around this is to talk with the neighbour about the noisy jobs.
Tell him the job you're doing and ask if it would be possible to make some
noise up to a specific time, then stop to allow them some decent sleep time.
Telling people what's happening mostly brings out their good side, and it is
surprising how you'll find them understanding what you're doing and allow
some leeway to you to complete the work quickly.

I take it by your wording that you don't want to fall out over this, and you
know that good neighbour are a god send when you need them most? So, speak
to them. Tell them what you're doing and when you intend to do it. Arrange
a time between you when the noise has to stop. Once this is done, then
stick to the agreement made.

Your neighbours have lives to, so you really need to make sure they are not
suffering hardship because of you.

5 Years of DIY? blimey I could have built the house in that time.

And banging or drilling at 10pm I'd be banging on your sodden door.

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
All has been pretty good until recently when I have started renovating a
room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives below me. He tends to
get up early 6-7am whereas I typically don't. As such we've clashed
recently with him complaining about me banging around at about 10pm. I
try and get the noisy jobs done before 10pm or leave it to the weekend if
its going to be really noisy (such as major drilling or hammering).

Personally I think 10pm is way too late for noisy DIY, especially if it's
going on over a long period; I'm not surprised the guy's complained. I'd
have thought 7-8pm was a more realistic cutoff time.


Seconded - explain what you're doing and agree a time to stop. Maybe he
could tell you when he's going to be out/away for a night so you know to
plan a long session?

At least he's not as bad as a bloke I saw leaning out of his window mid
Sunday afternoon shouting at somebody mowing their lawn that "I'm on bloody
night shifts I need my sleep".

I know it's hard on nights but you really can't expect silence at 2pm on a
weekend!....

"PC Paul" wrote in message
. uk...

Seconded - explain what you're doing and agree a time to stop. Maybe he
could tell you when he's going to be out/away for a night so you know to
plan a long session?


Oh yeah - and how about getting up at 0630 and getting an hour or two in
before work?

ben wrote:
5 Years of DIY? blimey I could have built the house in that time.

And banging or drilling at 10pm I'd be banging on your sodden door.


Just hope that he does not complain to the Council noise abatement
people, they will put strict limits on times and days. Follow the
advice given and negotiate with the chap. It is better for you and him.

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Common sense, not common market.

In article ,
"Steve" writes:
I wondered what similar peoples experiences are and if there are any
specific laws around to state when you can and can't work and at what level.

If I'm going to do anything very noisy, I always check with the
neighbours first. I also make it clear that if any noise is bothering
them, they should let me know immediately. Consequently, I've never
had any complaint, even when channeling into the party wall brickwork
and sinking 8 socket back boxes. I get on with my neighbours very
well. I don't do any noisy work after around 8pm, unless I know they
are out.

The only law I`ve found is the 'Noise Act 1996' which talks about penalties
for night time noise between 11pm and 7am. Everything else seems to be
subjective based upon actual noise level and circumstances. As such I can't
really gauge what noise I am entitled to make and when. My only argument at
the moment is that I can spend a couple intensive months getting the noisy
jobs done or spend a couple of years doing 1 hr a night until its finished.
I tend to also weigh in that I don't complain about his TV being too loud or
them stomping around on their wooden floor. Bit of give and take I say ...
Anyone else had this problem or come across the law on this one ?!

You are looking at this from the wrong angle, and heading for a neighbour
dispute. It's _your_ problem that you are not there to do the work at more
reasonable time, not your neighbour's. You might try to mitigate this by
getting on better with your neighbour, and ask him when it would be
convenient for you to do some noisy work. He might then let you know when
he's going on holiday, so you can make noise later into the night, and
offer to keep an eye on his place for him. Don't start by quoting the law
at him -- start by thinking of what's reasonable from his point of view.

--
Andrew Gabriel

All has been pretty good until recently when I have started renovating a
room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives below me. He tends to
get
up early 6-7am whereas I typically don't. As such we've clashed recently
with him complaining about me banging around at about 10pm.

I wouldn't dream of making noise at 22:00. I don't even live in a flat, but
a Victorian terrace with solid brick party walls. I would be wary of doing
it in a detached house, unless it was particularly remote from nearby
houses.

I keep anything noisy between about 9:30 and 19:00 on weekdays. On the
weekend, particularly Sunday, I'd start later, and maybe consider going on
to 20:00 on Saturday.

It is clear that this person goes to sleep before ten, so I would consider
utterly unreasonable to do any work in that room from the time that the
person says he retires to his room.

Christian.

In message , Steve
writes
I wondered what similar peoples experiences are and if there are any
specific laws around to state when you can and can't work and at what level.
The only law I`ve found is the 'Noise Act 1996' which talks about penalties
for night time noise between 11pm and 7am. Everything else seems to be
subjective based upon actual noise level and circumstances. As such I can't
really gauge what noise I am entitled to make and when. My only argument at
the moment is that I can spend a couple intensive months getting the noisy
jobs done or spend a couple of years doing 1 hr a night until its finished.
I tend to also weigh in that I don't complain about his TV being too loud or
them stomping around on their wooden floor. Bit of give and take I say ...
Anyone else had this problem or come across the law on this one ?!

Maybe you should ask him to knock on the ceiling if the noise is too
much or when he's ready to go to bed.

Also, you could ask him to tell you when he expected to be out so you
could do the noisiest stuff when he's not there.

I think, considering the time you seem to have spent on it so far, you
need to make the best attempt to fit in with causing him the least
disturbance

And offer him a few sweeteners to show him that you appreciate his
putting up with you

You could also offer to help him out from time to time

--
geoff

In message , PC Paul
writes
"Lobster" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
All has been pretty good until recently when I have started renovating a
room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives below me. He tends to
get up early 6-7am whereas I typically don't. As such we've clashed
recently with him complaining about me banging around at about 10pm. I
try and get the noisy jobs done before 10pm or leave it to the weekend if
its going to be really noisy (such as major drilling or hammering).

Personally I think 10pm is way too late for noisy DIY, especially if it's
going on over a long period; I'm not surprised the guy's complained. I'd
have thought 7-8pm was a more realistic cutoff time.


Seconded - explain what you're doing and agree a time to stop. Maybe he
could tell you when he's going to be out/away for a night so you know to
plan a long session?

At least he's not as bad as a bloke I saw leaning out of his window mid
Sunday afternoon shouting at somebody mowing their lawn that "I'm on bloody
night shifts I need my sleep".

I know it's hard on nights but you really can't expect silence at 2pm on a
weekend!....

You can when it's you who needs the sleep

What seems to be lacking is a bit of communication

--
geoff

In message , ben
writes
5 Years of DIY? blimey I could have built the house in that time.

And banging or drilling at 10pm I'd be banging on your sodden door.

I was going to reply along similar lines, but he said on and off

I've suffered from noisy (new) neighbours recently

they work in a restaurant and are very noisy from just after 1 am when
they get in to about 3 - 4 am (my wife gets up at 4:30)

Having asked them to be a bit quieter and being ignored, I resorted to
hooking up a stereo with the speakers stuck against the wall. I
connected it up to the PC and played

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/footy/

until 8 am

No problems since then

--
geoff

Steve wrote:

snip

As such we've clashed recently
with him complaining about me banging around at about 10pm. I try and get
the noisy jobs done before 10pm or leave it to the weekend if its going to
be really noisy (such as major drilling or hammering). Unfortunately in this
case I was trying to get a bit of plumbing work done under the floorboards
and he was trying to get to bed early.

snip

I think you're crazy, and I pity your neighbours.


--
Grunff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , ben
writes
5 Years of DIY? blimey I could have built the house in that time.

And banging or drilling at 10pm I'd be banging on your sodden door.

I was going to reply along similar lines, but he said on and off

I've suffered from noisy (new) neighbours recently

they work in a restaurant and are very noisy from just after 1 am when
they get in to about 3 - 4 am (my wife gets up at 4:30)

Having asked them to be a bit quieter and being ignored, I resorted to
hooking up a stereo with the speakers stuck against the wall. I
connected it up to the PC and played

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/footy/

until 8 am

No problems since then

geoff


We suffered a noisy neighbour for many weeks when we first got married and
moved to our first house. The flats where along the landing from each
other, so made two of the rooms back up against each other in the layout.

Our bedroom was right next to the room they were using as a living room, and
they had music playing very loud nearly every night. This was loud to the
point of being heard clearly two floors below in the tenement, so you'll
know how loud it was.

Three weeks of asking them to keep it down, at least after 10pm at night,
went unheeded, and I eventually flipped and licked their door down, stormed
in to the room where they were sitting, and threw their record player
through the window into the back garden. I followed this with holding the
guy out the broken window as well, until he told me truthfully that he
wouldn't do it again.

But this isn't a nice feeling to have with your neighbours.

went unheeded, and I eventually flipped and licked their door down, stormed

Whoa, you licked their door down? Way to go, man....

"Lobster" wrote in message
...

went unheeded, and I eventually flipped and licked their door down,
stormed

Whoa, you licked their door down? Way to go, man....


I had asked them nearly every night for the first week, then it just seemed
to get worse instead of better, so I flipped out big time. Nothing I'm
really proud of, but the military seem to brain wash you into thinking that
if someone is ignoring your requests then they're only out for trouble, so
they get it and these people got it. It must have been more embarrassing
for their friends, who didn't really say very much, and they left not long
after it happened.

The door actually came off the bottom hinge, if memory serves right, so I
must have been really angry at the time.

"Lobster" wrote in message
...

went unheeded, and I eventually flipped and licked their door down,
stormed

Whoa, you licked their door down? Way to go, man....


ROFLMAO!!!!!!! Nice one, and they got a real tongue wagging, let me tell
ya' ROFLMAO!!!!!

Christian McArdle wrote:

I wouldn't dream of making noise at 22:00.

Me neither, normally. But I did once have to secure a property in the
small hours, you cant just leave it doorless all night. But you can at
least use screws not nails, and get it done quickly.

Just goes to show it all depends.


NT

In article , BigWallop
wrote:

I eventually flipped and licked their door down,

Coverted chocolate factory? :-)


--
AJL

Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) wrote:
In article ,
BigWallop wrote:

I eventually flipped and licked their door down,

Coverted chocolate factory? :-)

He's never going to lick this down. :-)

In article ,
Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics) wrote:
In article , BigWallop
wrote:

I eventually flipped and licked their door down,

Coverted chocolate factory? :-)

See? Now I've done it. :-)

--
AJL

In article ,
PC Paul wrote:
Oh yeah - and how about getting up at 0630 and getting an hour or two in
before work?

That's anti-social too. 0800-1900 would be fair hours to make a noise.

--
*Life is hard; then you nap

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
PC Paul wrote:
Oh yeah - and how about getting up at 0630 and getting an hour or two in
before work?

That's anti-social too. 0800-1900 would be fair hours to make a noise.


The OP said the neighbour went to work at 0700...

Unless there are other neighbours who would be disturbed by *this* time
period, obviously.

In article ,
PC Paul wrote:
That's anti-social too. 0800-1900 would be fair hours to make a noise.


The OP said the neighbour went to work at 0700...

Unless there are other neighbours who would be disturbed by *this* time
period, obviously.

Most people do have other neighbours. ;-)

--
*Why is it considered necessary to screw down the lid of a coffin?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

BigWallop wrote:
... I eventually flipped and licked their door down,

Were you a drugs squad police dog in a previous existence?

Owain

"Owain" wrote in message
...
BigWallop wrote:
... I eventually flipped and licked their door down,

Were you a drugs squad police dog in a previous existence?

Owain

They got a fright when I slobbered all over them. :-) Woof!!!!

"Lobster" wrote in message
...
Steve wrote:
All has been pretty good until recently when I have started renovating a
room directly above a bedroom of the guy who lives below me. He tends to
get
up early 6-7am whereas I typically don't. As such we've clashed recently
with him complaining about me banging around at about 10pm. I try and
get
the noisy jobs done before 10pm or leave it to the weekend if its going
to
be really noisy (such as major drilling or hammering).

Personally I think 10pm is way too late for noisy DIY, especially if
it's going on over a long period; I'm not surprised the guy's
complained. I'd have thought 7-8pm was a more realistic cutoff time.

One strategy I've usually adopted, to minimise whinging neighbours,
wherever I've been living/working and been doing diy work over a long
period, is to decide on a suitable end time to noisy work and then stick
to it. That way, if you're knocking seven bells out of a wall at
7.15pm, the neighbours will be hopefully be thinking, 'ah well at least
it will be stopping in 15 minutes', as opposed to 'Oh God, how much
longer will the bugger be going on for tonight?'

Your guy doesn't sound unreasonable to me if he doesn't complain until
10pm - why don't you have a chat and come to a mutually agreed time at
which you promise to down tools? And when you're finished, bung him a
few bottles of wine in the interests of good neighbour relations (and so
he doesn't throw a hissy fit when your next project starts!)

While floorboards are up fill them with rigid Rockwool batts. This reduces
noise between flats. If you do ity now it will reduce noise while work is
ongoing and good at any time after too.

In article ws.net,
Doctor Evil wrote:
While floorboards are up fill them with rigid Rockwool batts. This
reduces noise between flats. If you do ity now it will reduce noise
while work is ongoing and good at any time after too.

Don't waste your money. The reduction in noise transmission will be tiny
and frequency dependant. It will make little difference to DIY noises.

--
*I will always cherish the initial misconceptions I had about you

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ws.net,
Doctor Evil wrote:
While floorboards are up fill them with rigid Rockwool batts. This
reduces noise between flats. If you do ity now it will reduce noise
while work is ongoing and good at any time after too.

Don't waste your money.

To the OP, the noise reduction is quite good so ignore this idiot.

Doctor Evil wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ws.net,
Doctor Evil wrote:

While floorboards are up fill them with rigid Rockwool batts. This
reduces noise between flats. If you do ity now it will reduce noise
while work is ongoing and good at any time after too.

Don't waste your money.

To the OP, the noise reduction is quite good so ignore this idiot.

nice to see he has a sense of humour


NT

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"Steve" writes:

I wondered what similar peoples experiences are and if there are any
specific laws around to state when you can and can't work and at what level.


If I'm going to do anything very noisy, I always check with the
neighbours first. I also make it clear that if any noise is bothering
them, they should let me know immediately. Consequently, I've never
had any complaint, even when channeling into the party wall brickwork
and sinking 8 socket back boxes. I get on with my neighbours very
well. I don't do any noisy work after around 8pm, unless I know they
are out.


The only law I`ve found is the 'Noise Act 1996' which talks about penalties
for night time noise between 11pm and 7am. Everything else seems to be
subjective based upon actual noise level and circumstances. As such I can't
really gauge what noise I am entitled to make and when. My only argument at
the moment is that I can spend a couple intensive months getting the noisy
jobs done or spend a couple of years doing 1 hr a night until its finished.
I tend to also weigh in that I don't complain about his TV being too loud or
them stomping around on their wooden floor. Bit of give and take I say ...
Anyone else had this problem or come across the law on this one ?!


You are looking at this from the wrong angle, and heading for a neighbour
dispute. It's _your_ problem that you are not there to do the work at more
reasonable time, not your neighbour's. You might try to mitigate this by
getting on better with your neighbour, and ask him when it would be
convenient for you to do some noisy work. He might then let you know when
he's going on holiday, so you can make noise later into the night, and
offer to keep an eye on his place for him. Don't start by quoting the law
at him -- start by thinking of what's reasonable from his point of view.

I agree with you on this. Never mind the details of Noise Act the
neighbour could complain to the L.A. about persistent noise, I did
successfully for a barking dog next door.
Also, there will most likely be something in the deeds/lease for the
flats about "quiet enjoyment". The affected neighbour could invoke legal
measures against the noisy DIYer on those grounds.

"OldBill" wrote in message
...
raden wrote:

Having asked them to be a bit quieter and being ignored, I resorted to
hooking up a stereo with the speakers stuck against the wall. I connected
it up to the PC and played

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/footy/

until 8 am No problems since then

Nice one! My son's neigbouring flat had child who practiced the piano
music very badly for long periods. The piano was against the party wall.
So he played the same music on CD through very loud Hi-fi. Neighbour soon
got the idea.

I had a neighbour who occasionally had long, but not *too* loud and not
*too* late parties. Then they started to get louder and later...

I did the same, playing "Queen - We Will Rock You" at full blast into the
wall several times.

Silence for 30 seconds or so from next door once I switched off, then 'We're
lost in music' came back equally loud for a minute.

But then much quieter music, and a smiley neighbour next day. No problems
since.

If only all problems actually got sorted out like that...

raden wrote:
In message , ben
writes

5 Years of DIY? blimey I could have built the house in that time.

And banging or drilling at 10pm I'd be banging on your sodden door.

I was going to reply along similar lines, but he said on and off

I've suffered from noisy (new) neighbours recently

they work in a restaurant and are very noisy from just after 1 am when
they get in to about 3 - 4 am (my wife gets up at 4:30)

Having asked them to be a bit quieter and being ignored, I resorted to
hooking up a stereo with the speakers stuck against the wall. I
connected it up to the PC and played

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/footy/

until 8 am No problems since then

Nice one! My son's neigbouring flat had child who practiced the piano
music very badly for long periods. The piano was against the party wall.
So he played the same music on CD through very loud Hi-fi. Neighbour
soon got the idea.