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In article , Lennie the Lurker
says... Best of all, do like all good conservatives do, join raygun where he is now if the earth doesn't puke his foul body back up and reject it. Oddly enough my mother-in-law, who is the sweetest, kindest, most generous person I know, had this to say about the man: "They should have buried him face-down, to speed him on his way." Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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"Lennie the Lurker" wrote in message om... "Lennie's true colors" 602.843.6983 Corwith Family Joel Corwith 17650 N 42 Dr Glendale, AZ Since it seems Dick isn't going away, a deja search found some info from someone he ****ed off in the past: "Richard A. Buege, 256 Robert St. Burlington, WI 53105-2255 tel. 262-763-2237 variously known as Greybeard, Lennie the Lurker, rabue, Richard B, and various other aliases" It's pretty clear to see that he is in some desperate need of anger management, but thus far is in denial. I've captured a sampling from over the years, but it's just recently that he has really gone off the deep end: alt.aviation.safety 1/2000 Retired machinist, crusty, ornery, don't give a ****.-Lennie the Lurker. (now if he would just go away) alt.fan.rush-limbaugh 9/2001 Your turn will come, if not through my efforts, someone else, and you're too blockheaded to think that it could happen to you. But it will, it's not a question of "if" but "when". - Lennie the Lurker (but he wouldn't threaten anyone...) rec.aviation.soaring 10/2000 Uncouth, I may be, but for the most part I am an HONORABLE man that doesn't try to press his interests on others if they don't want it. The same cannot be said for most members of this group.- Lennie the Lurker (unless you differ in political beliefs, then he's always right and will use profanities just to prove how honorable he is) rec.aviation.soaring 04/2002 You're nothing but a Damned word twisting republican conservative liar. You may think the 2-33 a pig, but when you're flying one, there is also a pig in the cockpit. The more I learn about soaring pilots, the more I love my dogs. Nothing can hide the fact that you twisted my words to fit your own pigheaded purpose, which makes you just a damned liar. Typical method for what you are.- Lennie the Lurker (does being a conservative make one a liar?) rec.music.theory 06/2003 Lennie the lurker exists to flame, to bait, and to open to ridicule, then leave to others the shaking remains of my target. Binford Mark V flame thrower now on "incinerate".- Lennie the Lurker (Understand, that's him making the statement about himself!!) mega-multi-crosspost 1/2001 Does you're mommy know you're playing with her computer again? **** off, dud.- Lennie the Lurker (nice thing to say to someone that says he's a 12 year old, and dude has an 'e' at the end, like potatoe) rec.crafts.metalworking 6/2004 **** you in the mouth, AGAIN, you little stallinite conservative PUNK.- Lennie the Lurker (ouch, calling someone conservative AND a punk, bet that hurt his feelings) rec.travel.air 12/2001 Chas, or whatever your keepers call you, you've gotta be the biggest blockhead the universe has ever aborted and had live. Why don't you go suck off a few more scabs to keep them happy, and while you're at it, find a pistol to suck off.-Lennie the Lurker (I don't believe all union folks are drones, but Dick provides some stunning evidence) rec.aviation.homebuilt 1/2002 You're a typical conservative, all you can see is the bucks, not what you're doing to the real backbone of the country, the people that actually WORK for a living. It's one thing to sit in an office and suck hind tit, and quite another to be on the factory floor, running a machine, racing a stopwatch. Try it, you would die before a day was over from having to move your worthless ass..-Lennie the Lurker. (Oh yes, the card carrying union man is the only american working, and not thinking about bucks. See, they work for the fun of it and the challenge of beating the clock. Watch a few making $24/hour sweeping floors and realize that they're thinking of the good of the whole planet and not just getting off work to drink beers with the guys. Yes, waiting 2 hours to have a union guy (and his supervisor) remove TWO (2) screws from a panel was in everyone's best interest) Joel. phx |
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"jim rozen" wrote in message ... In article , Lennie the Lurker says... Best of all, do like all good conservatives do, join raygun where he is now if the earth doesn't puke his foul body back up and reject it. Oddly enough my mother-in-law, who is the sweetest, kindest, most generous person I know, had this to say about the man: "They should have buried him face-down, to speed him on his way." Didn't she like his movies? Joel. phx Jim |
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"Lennie the Lurker" wrote in message
om... "Lennie's true colors" joelene, if there ever was a figure of a conservative model, you've go to be it. Stupid. Gullible. Believe anything that's put up your but by your party, although all of it's wrong, just more lies. I don't have a party. Generally I vote for the non-incumbent. Usually I pick whatever third party is available. You political morons can't produce a politician to save your lives. Ignorant, if you ever were in a union, it was one formed and run by the company, not worth the powder to blow it to hell. That's like evil begetting evil. We should put all them damn evil companies out of business, that will show them. I see you've never owned a business. You have no skills that I've been able to determine, you never post on any metal related subject, and if you did, you'd be dead wrong anyhow. Dick, YOU'RE the politician here, I don't give a rat's ass about your union political opinion. Metal working is more than just machining a part, if you even had a clue. Go crawl to your masters, hide under their desks, ringmouth. Never try anything on your own, and if you do and fail, which in your case is inevitable, hide it, don't admit you made a mistake. Wow, what the hell are you talking about here? Clearly a ranting of an angry, bitter, old man. Gunner has it right on with Lennie the Loonie, doesn't he? Best of all, do like all good conservatives do, join raygun where he is now if the earth doesn't puke his foul body back up and reject it. Hell, in his last hour, he still knew more than you ever did or will. Is there a president you think did a good job? Your man Clinton getting blown in the oval office perhaps? I'm curious as to why you hate former presidents. Does this relate to your hatred of the US Marines Corp? Are you even an American? Most union men are proud Americans, what's your problem? And best of all, joelene, you have a priviledge that I don't. You can suck my ass and I can't. I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were a homosexual. Is that the reason for the bitterness and resentment? I wouldn't think it a big deal in the mid-west, but I can understand how you would stand out with the union. I could have a therapist recommended if you let me know the healthplan your union extorted at the time of your retirement. At least let them help you with your anger. Joel. phx Wait, that's the first post you didn't use 'punk', maybe you are getting better! |
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On 29 Aug 2004 17:20:34 -0700, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Lennie the Lurker says... Best of all, do like all good conservatives do, join raygun where he is now if the earth doesn't puke his foul body back up and reject it. Oddly enough my mother-in-law, who is the sweetest, kindest, most generous person I know, had this to say about the man: "They should have buried him face-down, to speed him on his way." Thanks fer the chuckle. I think there could have been things added, concering the position he was in when the planted him. Just added another of corwithoutbrains aliases to the killfile. Don't think I want to read anything by a punk called joelene. Full copy of agent is nice, don't even have to open them to automatically delete them once the filter is set. Worth the money to be rid of gummer, joelene and klacumass, whoever he was. |
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On 29 Aug 2004 17:20:34 -0700, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Lennie the Lurker says... Best of all, do like all good conservatives do, join raygun where he is now if the earth doesn't puke his foul body back up and reject it. Oddly enough my mother-in-law, who is the sweetest, kindest, most generous person I know, had this to say about the man: "They should have buried him face-down, to speed him on his way." Jim I stopped in a couple weeks ago to see his grave. I was only one of many paying homage to St. Reagan. Now on the other hand..when Leslie goes west..Ive got dibs on the beer concession , for those who want to **** on his grave. I suspect Ill be doing a lot of business. Gunner It's not unwise to remember that Mother Nature is essentially a murderous, sneakly, promiscuous bitch who has been trying to kill you since your conception. Eventually she will succeed, perhaps with the help of your fellow man. Life consists in putting off the inevitable as long as possible and taking what good and joy you can before her success. Whether you attribute that situation to evolutionary forces, a fallen nature after Adam and Eve screwed the pooch, or whatever, it's no less true. Be friendly, pleasant, unaggressive, and honest toward all and be prepared to ignore, avoid, or even kill anyone who is otherwise toward you. Being ready doesn't mean eager, just ready. What true friends are found in life will undestand and accept that fundamental rule of human interaction." John Husvar |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:55:27 GMT in misc.survivalism : The bin Laden Group would never have been allowed by the US public. Simple fact of life. If Dubya had contracted with them..even for one dollar, the Left would have ripped him a new asshole faster than they are trying now. And the Right would be even faster off the blocks. Would be kind of interesting, the first truly Bipartisan political move in the last fifty years. -- pyotr filipivich Next Week's Panel: Us & Them - Eliminating Them. Next Month's Panel: Having eliminated the old Them, Selecting a new Them |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 05:42:15 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:55:27 GMT in misc.survivalism : The bin Laden Group would never have been allowed by the US public. Simple fact of life. If Dubya had contracted with them..even for one dollar, the Left would have ripped him a new asshole faster than they are trying now. And the Right would be even faster off the blocks. Would be kind of interesting, the first truly Bipartisan political move in the last fifty years. Excellent point. Gunner "She's (my daughter) already dating a sex offender. Better that than a republican fundie neocon fascist." FF, (alt.machines.cnc) |
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In article 7,
Stuart Grey writes: wrote in : On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:53:20 GMT, Stuart Grey wrote: This isn't diverse, it's pure left wing propaganda. Only a damned liar would even TRY and claim NPR is not left wing. It should NOT be paid for with as much as a cent of taxpayer money. I get the picture. Anything that's true and exposes the GWeeB and his cronies to public scrutiny is "left wing propaganda". Sorry, do not pass go, do not collect $100. Why do you continue to lie? I said that NPR is left wing. I gave examples from the NPR website. You have no rational rebuttal, so you lied about what I said, and then clipped out everything that proved my point. You leftist are so contemptable you're a disgrace to the human species. Another winger idiot heard from. Objecting to free educational programming. On the radio. Probably in fear that a little education would turn him into a liberal. -- Cliff |
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In article , Gunner
writes: ll bet you think Michael Moore is a grand spewer of the truth too, correct? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! Did poor Gummer actually pay to go see the film? Or did he (as a law abiding winger) get a hot copy? Right wing extremists are SOOOOOOOO transparent. And the color beneath is pure bull**** brown. See the hate, the bias, the hypocracy from the Tolerance and Diversity crowd. Too bad Gummer's been caught it so very many blatent lies of late G. One has to be pretty dumb not to learn .... but he'll soon repeat many of them again. His "sources" lied to him but that's fine & dandy. After all, it's the winger way. Anybody sane would change their "soiurces" and shy from Rush & the wingerbloggers. Not Gummer .... BTW, Someone compared the Republican convention to putting lipstick on a pig. Poor Gummer's in love but kissing the wrong end (don't tell him G). He's always had poor taste. -- Cliff |
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In article . 77,
Stuart Grey writes: what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is all about. They're all for infringing the right of the veterans to free speech. snicker Bought & paid for it seems. "Veterans" that were not even there ..... and were taken out of context and regret being tricked .... Does "free speech" include blatent lies? Well, if you are a bushie clearly it does .... Find those WMDs yet? Cannot lift the sanctions (and export all that oil) without doing so, now can you? Not any more than Saddam was allowed to ... and he's the one that said that there were no WMDs .... HTH -- Cliff |
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In article , JR NORTH
writes: I don't believe you guys... And Cliff, your'e an ass. Only to fools & idiots. CLUE for fools & idiots: I did not write it. Only posted it. That was rather clear, except, it seems, to fools & idiots. HTH -- Cliff |
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In article , Gunner
writes: PLONK! Hey look folks! A Socialist just plonked somebody! (huge applause) So much for the tolerence and diversity crowd. How many are in your killfile, oh tolerant one searching for truth? -- Cliff |
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In article . 17,
Stuart Grey writes: Liberals are compulsive liars, and one of their FAVORITE tactics is to change the subject when they are caught red handed. Is this about WMDs again? BTW, Why do idiots top-post and copy the entire prior post? -- Cliff |
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In article . 17,
Stuart Grey writes: Sure I listen to NPR. I play "spot the lie" and "How was this piece pro-socialist ****". I like to know what the current commie lies are; how best to counter the leftist lies by first studying them to see what the hell they're lying about now. Still no clues? -- Cliff |
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In article . 17,
Stuart Grey writes: Stupid liberal pet tricks: when caught red handed being *******s, tell lies about the Republicans. What lies are you thinking of? About WMDs again is it? The simple fact is, the same wording that the libs claim creats a wall of seperation between government and religion woould also create a wall of seperation between government and the press. What "wording"? There is seperation. Except when it comes to Faux News & the shrubbie. NPR should be made to repay all the money unconstitutionally allocated to it, plus interest. Huh? Plenty of money to clothe statues ..... -- Cliff |
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In article , Gunner says...
Oddly enough my mother-in-law, who is the sweetest, kindest, most generous person I know, had this to say about the man: "They should have buried him face-down, to speed him on his way." Jim I stopped in a couple weeks ago to see his grave. I was only one of many paying homage to St. Reagan. You have to understand now that ms Mulligan's mom is the daughter of a banker, and was a staunch republican for *years*. Yet the shenanigans of Iran-Contra were an outrage to her and she never forgave the man the way he shat all over the constitution. As far as she's concerned, he's the antichrist. A tough lady who raised five kids, and she sure outlived that guy. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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National Public Radio ... the lib network that we wingers must pay for
because no sponsor in their right mind would ever advertise on a network of wacko's and weirdo's. Today during one of Shawn Hannidy's marathon commercials I hit the NPR button in time to hear a femo-mother beating the drum for more abortion rights " I had 3 children before I was 20 " she whined. My first thought was " if she could go back ... which one of her kids would she kill " .. then she goes on to call the Pro -Lifer's " Anti-Choicers " . I guess if we are to be called that then it's OK to call that side Pro-Death .... Just venting ... at was a miserable hot day at Kaydon Tom Cliff Huprich wrote: In article . 17, Stuart Grey writes: Stupid liberal pet tricks: when caught red handed being *******s, tell lies about the Republicans. What lies are you thinking of? About WMDs again is it? The simple fact is, the same wording that the libs claim creats a wall of seperation between government and religion woould also create a wall of seperation between government and the press. What "wording"? There is seperation. Except when it comes to Faux News & the shrubbie. NPR should be made to repay all the money unconstitutionally allocated to it, plus interest. Huh? Plenty of money to clothe statues ..... |
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I get the picture. Anything that's true and exposes the GWeeB and his
cronies to public scrutiny is "left wing propaganda". Sorry, do not pass go, do not collect $100. Right wing extremists are SOOOOOOOO transparent. And the color beneath is pure bull**** brown. Though I don't agree about the brown, I will say that I have always preferred it to pink. John Martin |
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"Joel Corwith" wrote in message Since it seems Dick isn't going away, a deja search found some info from someone he ****ed off in the past: "Richard A. Buege, 256 Robert St. Burlington, WI 53105-2255 tel. 262-763-2237 variously known as Greybeard, Lennie the Lurker, rabue, Richard B, and various other aliases" It's pretty clear to see that he is in some desperate need of anger management, but thus far is in denial. I've captured a sampling from over the years, but it's just recently that he has really gone off the deep end: You've got to understand... Lennie is here strictly for the entertainment value. He posts on a CNC group, but doesn't believe in CNC equipment.... really... I'm not making this up. Check his past rants on this subject. You will find it quite entertaining. Don't take him seriously... very few do. Mark |
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"M" mark@maxmachinedotcom wrote in message ... "Joel Corwith" wrote in message Since it seems Dick isn't going away, a deja search found some info from someone he ****ed off in the past: "Richard A. Buege, 256 Robert St. Burlington, WI 53105-2255 tel. 262-763-2237 variously known as Greybeard, Lennie the Lurker, rabue, Richard B, and various other aliases" It's pretty clear to see that he is in some desperate need of anger management, but thus far is in denial. I've captured a sampling from over the years, but it's just recently that he has really gone off the deep end: You've got to understand... Lennie is here strictly for the entertainment value. He posts on a CNC group, but doesn't believe in CNC equipment.... really... I'm not making this up. Check his past rants on this subject. You will find it quite entertaining. Don't take him seriously... very few do. Mark Well please inform Mr. Lennie that I was the second person to verify or discover an of unknown origin wether natural or other on the planet Mars. You can thank the mars rover for snapping this picture, it was built by American machinist and machined on CNC machinery in the United States of America. And here is the pictu NASA Image: http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...P1962L0M1.HTML Who I heard it: http://www.rense.com/general51/curious.htm Image enhancement from Nasa image with various digital processing softwa http://home.centurytel.net/cty90143/...r/2N134_1E.JPG John |
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You've got to understand... Lennie is here strictly for the entertainment value. Sounds like most of the metalopolitical discussion thrown around here. And this includes mark's as well. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:27:29 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:13:55 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:22:49 GMT, Gunner calmly ranted: Sure- I'm all for it as long as the interests being financed by the rightwing nutjobs also have to repay, with interest. Gregm Which begs the question..how come there are far more Millionaire Democrats in Congress than Republican ones? I believe that every single congresscritter in office is a millionaire. Coincidence? sigh Actually not true. As I said..the majority of the millionares in Congress are Dems. If they were so concerned about the little man, they would donate their money to charity. If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing? |
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"pyotr filipivich" wrote in message ... I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:27:29 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:13:55 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:22:49 GMT, Gunner calmly ranted: Sure- I'm all for it as long as the interests being financed by the rightwing nutjobs also have to repay, with interest. Gregm Which begs the question..how come there are far more Millionaire Democrats in Congress than Republican ones? I believe that every single congresscritter in office is a millionaire. Coincidence? sigh Actually not true. As I said..the majority of the millionares in Congress are Dems. If they were so concerned about the little man, they would donate their money to charity. If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? BINGO!!! |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 03:21:42 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:27:29 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:13:55 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:22:49 GMT, Gunner calmly ranted: Sure- I'm all for it as long as the interests being financed by the rightwing nutjobs also have to repay, with interest. Gregm Which begs the question..how come there are far more Millionaire Democrats in Congress than Republican ones? I believe that every single congresscritter in office is a millionaire. Coincidence? sigh Actually not true. As I said..the majority of the millionares in Congress are Dems. If they were so concerned about the little man, they would donate their money to charity. If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? tschus pyotr Unfortunately poverty doesn't cause crime. We have only to look at the Great Depression and its crime rates to see that factoid. Poverty however is a great Excuse for crime. Gunner "She's (my daughter) already dating a sex offender. Better that than a republican fundie neocon fascist." FF, (alt.machines.cnc) |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:45:21 -0700, "Ken Davey"
wrote: "pyotr filipivich" wrote in message .. . I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:27:29 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:13:55 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:22:49 GMT, Gunner calmly ranted: Sure- I'm all for it as long as the interests being financed by the rightwing nutjobs also have to repay, with interest. Gregm Which begs the question..how come there are far more Millionaire Democrats in Congress than Republican ones? I believe that every single congresscritter in office is a millionaire. Coincidence? sigh Actually not true. As I said..the majority of the millionares in Congress are Dems. If they were so concerned about the little man, they would donate their money to charity. If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? BINGO!!! Ayup..lets tax them into prosperity. Gunner "She's (my daughter) already dating a sex offender. Better that than a republican fundie neocon fascist." FF, (alt.machines.cnc) |
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"Gunner" wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:45:21 -0700, "Ken Davey" wrote: "pyotr filipivich" wrote in message .. . I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Sat, 28 Aug 2004 09:27:29 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 16:13:55 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 15:22:49 GMT, Gunner calmly ranted: Sure- I'm all for it as long as the interests being financed by the rightwing nutjobs also have to repay, with interest. Gregm Which begs the question..how come there are far more Millionaire Democrats in Congress than Republican ones? I believe that every single congresscritter in office is a millionaire. Coincidence? sigh Actually not true. As I said..the majority of the millionares in Congress are Dems. If they were so concerned about the little man, they would donate their money to charity. If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? BINGO!!! Ayup..lets tax them into prosperity. Gunner (speaking as a true liberal/socialist) let's tax the fat cats, or at least force them to consider the results of their greed and by extension do something to about the social ills rampant corporate greed generates. You live pretty close to the bone but I have first hand knowledge of those who live close to (if not immured in) starvation. Naked children with no future are what we have to fear! Regards. Ken. |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Tue, 31 Aug 2004 04:49:21 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? Unfortunately poverty doesn't cause crime. We have only to look at the Great Depression and its crime rates to see that factoid. Poverty however is a great Excuse for crime. True enough. But if the Democrats really believed that "poverty causes crime" then they would naturally be in favor of policies which are demonstrated to let people get rich. But Democrats obviously don't believe that, or they would act on their belief. OTOH, it could be, that they really do believe poverty causes crime, in which case their support of policies which impoverish peoples reveals their real intention: increasing the criminal class (via more poverty.) That would also explain their opposition to private possession and bearing of firearms. Makes for unsafe working conditions for those poverty caused criminals. Tuba Tsar. tschus pyotr -- pyotr If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 22:13:52 -0700, "Ken Davey"
wrote: BINGO!!! Ayup..lets tax them into prosperity. Gunner (speaking as a true liberal/socialist) let's tax the fat cats, or at least force them to consider the results of their greed and by extension do something to about the social ills rampant corporate greed generates. You live pretty close to the bone but I have first hand knowledge of those who live close to (if not immured in) starvation. Naked children with no future are what we have to fear! Regards. Ken. Ken. First question. Whose money is it that you want to take away. Is it yours, or the Fat Cats? If its yours, what are they doing with it? If its theirs, then you are advocating theft? As to the naked children thing..its a nice picture you portray, but having lived at the lower end of the social spectum most of my life...the only starving naked children Ive seen were on Tv in some Turd World country, or those belonging to drug addicts, or those too lazy to get off their asses and provide for them. Throwing money at those sorts of people has been done since LBJs Great Society, and its only created an even larger class of "poor" people and generations of intitlement recipients. Do a google on Tommy Thompson and welfare reform for what needs to be done widely or California welfare reform. Ill not get into your "corporate greed" comments other than mention has a poor person ever given you a job, or built a factory that hired masses of people? Gunner "She's (my daughter) already dating a sex offender. Better that than a republican fundie neocon fascist." FF, (alt.machines.cnc) |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 05:34:46 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Tue, 31 Aug 2004 04:49:21 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? Unfortunately poverty doesn't cause crime. We have only to look at the Great Depression and its crime rates to see that factoid. Poverty however is a great Excuse for crime. True enough. But if the Democrats really believed that "poverty causes crime" then they would naturally be in favor of policies which are demonstrated to let people get rich. But Democrats obviously don't believe that, or they would act on their belief. OTOH, it could be, that they really do believe poverty causes crime, in which case their support of policies which impoverish peoples reveals their real intention: increasing the criminal class (via more poverty.) That would also explain their opposition to private possession and bearing of firearms. Makes for unsafe working conditions for those poverty caused criminals. Tuba Tsar. tschus pyotr Excellent summation. Well done. Teach a man to fish, and he can feed himself for life. Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day, and you can build a really big bureaucracy that sucks up taxpayer money for "administration costs" and gives that fellow 1/5 a fish each day thereafter. Gunner "She's (my daughter) already dating a sex offender. Better that than a republican fundie neocon fascist." FF, (alt.machines.cnc) |
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pyotr filipivich wrote:
.....snip...... If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? Would you believe that is sort of the explanation given for a "falling crime rate" in this state. "The crime rate has fallen as unemployment has fallen". Last month, it was all because they were effective against drugs. |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 04:49:21 GMT, Gunner
calmly ranted: Unfortunately poverty doesn't cause crime. We have only to look at the Great Depression and its crime rates to see that factoid. I checked for stats on that and didn't find any online this morning. Got a cite? I did, however, find a very interesting discourse by Charles Murray on poverty vs. happiness. Recommended reading. http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/murray-poor Poverty however is a great Excuse for crime. sigh ----------------------------------------- Jack Kevorkian for Congressional physician! http://www.diversify.com Wondrous Website Design ================================================= |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 05:34:46 GMT, pyotr filipivich
calmly ranted: I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner wrote back on Tue, 31 Aug 2004 04:49:21 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : If poverty causes crime, maybe we should be doing more to make people rich as a means of crime prevention? Unfortunately poverty doesn't cause crime. We have only to look at the Great Depression and its crime rates to see that factoid. Poverty however is a great Excuse for crime. True enough. But if the Democrats really believed that "poverty causes crime" then they would naturally be in favor of policies which are demonstrated to let people get rich. But Democrats obviously don't believe that, or they would act on their belief. OTOH, it could be, that they really do believe poverty causes crime, in which case their support of policies which impoverish peoples reveals their real intention: increasing the criminal class (via more poverty.) That would also explain their opposition to private possession and bearing of firearms. Makes for unsafe working conditions for those poverty caused criminals. In a means-justify-the-ends theme, could they subconsciously (or consciously) be doing that to skew odds in favor of one of their favorite subjects, the fight against guns? I mean, some of their members viciously murder doctors to stop doctors from "murdering innocent babies", don't they. Twisted, oui? ----------------------------------------- Jack Kevorkian for Congressional physician! http://www.diversify.com Wondrous Website Design ================================================= |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:09:41 -0700, "M" mark@maxmachinedotcom wrote:
. He posts on a CNC group, but doesn't believe in CNC equipment.... really... I'm not making this up. Check his past rants on this subject. You will find it quite entertaining. Don't take him seriously... very few do. The crossposting happen normally only when one totally screwed individual known as gummer crossposts, on Google I don't even see where it's crossposted to. I do not subscribe to CNC groups, and will not be seen there if you can convince gummer that his drivel should be confined to the group he is posting from, not spread over and ****ting up eight or ten groups. As far as being taken seriously, there are those that have, and who they are might surprise many. Unlike a lot of places that say they can do things, when I do something for another, it's done right, the FIRST time. I have my machines, my instruments, and I can read blueprints, which means I have no excuse if something is not in print tolerance. Which is exactly the way I want it. I also sit and laugh when I read "how difficult 4140 is to work, how difficult it is to get a finish on 1018" and other such bull****. All the complaining means is the one complaining doesn't know how. The worst part is they don't want to learn, either. I have no interest in adding thousands of dollars to the cost of doing what my grandfather learned to do eighty years ago. I don't think they had computers in the shops, and for some reason, the quality of the work was still better than is done today. |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:09:41 -0700, "M" mark@maxmachinedotcom wrote: . He posts on a CNC group, but doesn't believe in CNC equipment.... really... I'm not making this up. Check his past rants on this subject. You will find it quite entertaining. Don't take him seriously... very few do. The crossposting happen normally only when one totally screwed individual known as gummer crossposts, on Google I don't even see where it's crossposted to. I do not subscribe to CNC groups, and will not be seen there if you can convince gummer that his drivel should be confined to the group he is posting from, not spread over and ****ting up eight or ten groups. It's not MY fault I crosspost it's someone ELSES fault. I also sit and laugh when I read "how difficult 4140 is to work, how difficult it is to get a finish on 1018" and other such bull****. All the complaining means is the one complaining doesn't know how. And I'm sure not going to help you either. The worst part is they don't want to learn, either. You punks. I have no interest in adding thousands of dollars to the cost of doing what my grandfather learned to do eighty years ago. I don't think they had computers in the shops, and for some reason, the quality of the work was still better than is done today. And he's dead so why should the world change. Joel. phx |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:07:57 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : Excellent summation. Well done. Teach a man to fish, and he can feed himself for life. And get him out of the house on weekends ... Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day, and you can build a really big bureaucracy that sucks up taxpayer money for "administration costs" and gives that fellow 1/5 a fish each day thereafter. Which works right up until all those who know how to fish a) quit or b) retire/die. And then there is no source of fish to distribute. Running a "free government money" program is like running any other scam. You have to let the mark regrow his skin before you can skin him again. As we used to say, if the Soviets were to take over the Sahara, nothing would be noted for fifty years. But then there would be a shortage of sand. == Sometimes fate hits you with the Clown Hammer of Circumstance and there's nothing to do but sit there and watch the little birds fly around your head." - Tara Calishain, ResearchBuzz |
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:10:42 GMT, "Jeff McCann"
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email freemarket principles will provide the goods at maximum profit.........for whom? I know that contracts awarded on a cost-plus and no bid basis aren't elements of a "free market capitalist system." The CEO of Halliburton has learned, as have many others, that he can make as "much money as he can from the clients," freemarket....I get as much as I can from those who pay for me. Now. Quality? HUH! Service! HUH! Future? HUH! Freemarket = make as much as you can.........now....... if he operates on insider connections, favoritism, cronyism, and back room dealing, instead of on true "free market" principles. Please lay out those principles. Where does it say tomorrow counts? Where does it say the consumer counts at all? You want free market, you get "what it takes" mentality. If you don't believe me, look at at M$oft. Gates _would_ be Christ if not for Govt regulation! ************************************************** *** I have decided that I should not be offended by anybody's behaviour but my own......the theory's good, anyway. |
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