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"Cliff Huprich" wrote in message
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Then you thought wrong, it ain't about metal. I can get politics anywhere.

Vaughn

Vaughn

(Cliff Huprich) wrote in
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I thought you might be interested adding your signature to
this.

I personally think NPR is consistently the best broadcast
journalism on the
air...in any media! "All things Considered" is worth this
resource all by
itself. If you agree, please sign and forward this.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

If the first amendment creates a seperation of church and state,
it also creates a seperation of press and state by the very same
words.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

If the first amendment creates a seperation of church and state,
it also creates a seperation of press and state by the very same
words.

ARE YOU CRAZY??? Do you want MORE people on welfare? If you MUST put
people out of work, do so to people that have a prayer of getting another
job in their profession. If they are working for NPR, at least we can keep
tabs on them. If they loose their jobs they might go into teaching in mass.

Stuart Grey writes:

(Cliff Huprich) wrote in
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(Note: I snipped the prior sigs. Start over on your own
G.)

I thought you might be interested adding your signature to
this.

I personally think NPR is consistently the best broadcast
journalism on the
air...in any media! "All things Considered" is worth this
resource all by
itself. If you agree, please sign and forward this.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its money too.
Gotta be fair.

Gregm

Greg Menke wrote:

Stuart Grey writes:


(Cliff Huprich) wrote in
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(Note: I snipped the prior sigs. Start over on your own
G.)

I thought you might be interested adding your signature to
this.

I personally think NPR is consistently the best broadcast
journalism on the
air...in any media! "All things Considered" is worth this
resource all by
itself. If you agree, please sign and forward this.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.


Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its money too.
Gotta be fair.

Gregm

You seem to forget that Halliburton is a private company that provides
products and services to clients that contract for those same products
and services. Halliburtion is supposed to make a profit and pay taxes.

NPR is not private and it is not supposed to make a profit and it does
not pay taxes.

As a stockholder in Halliburton I would fire any CEO for not making as
much money as he can from the clients. The fact that the government, in
its stupidity, allowed a situation where Halliburton is the only
supplier of the services, in a area of the world, where the government
need the supply of those services is not Halliburtons fault but the
governments fault.

In the capitalist free market system you raise the price of your
products and services as high as possible. It it bankrupts the
government then it's the governments problem not Halliburtons. (of
course if the Government is the only customer of Halliburton then it
becomes Halliburtons problem.)

You obviously don't know much about the free market capitalist system.

The Independent

"Pilot to Gunner: Bandits at 9 O'Clock."

"The Independent of Clackamas County" wrote in
message ...


Greg Menke wrote:

Stuart Grey writes:


(Cliff Huprich) wrote in
.com:


(Note: I snipped the prior sigs. Start over on your own
G.)

I thought you might be interested adding your signature to
this.

I personally think NPR is consistently the best broadcast
journalism on the
air...in any media! "All things Considered" is worth this
resource all by
itself. If you agree, please sign and forward this.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.


Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its money too.
Gotta be fair.

Gregm

You seem to forget that Halliburton is a private company that provides
products and services to clients that contract for those same products
and services. Halliburtion is supposed to make a profit and pay
taxes.

NPR is not private and it is not supposed to make a profit and it does
not pay taxes.

As a stockholder in Halliburton I would fire any CEO for not making as
much money as he can from the clients. The fact that the government,
in
its stupidity, allowed a situation where Halliburton is the only
supplier of the services, in a area of the world, where the government
need the supply of those services is not Halliburtons fault but the
governments fault.

In the capitalist free market system you raise the price of your
products and services as high as possible. It it bankrupts the
government then it's the governments problem not Halliburtons. (of
course if the Government is the only customer of Halliburton then it
becomes Halliburtons problem.)

You obviously don't know much about the free market capitalist system.

I know that contracts awarded on a cost-plus and no bid basis aren't
elements of a "free market capitalist system." The CEO of Halliburton
has learned, as have many others, that he can make as "much money as he
can from the clients," if he operates on insider connections,
favoritism, cronyism, and back room dealing, instead of on true "free
market" principles.

Jeff

Jeff McCann wrote:

"The Independent of Clackamas County" wrote in
message ...


Greg Menke wrote:


Stuart Grey writes:



(Cliff Huprich) wrote in
le.com:



(Note: I snipped the prior sigs. Start over on your own
G.)

I thought you might be interested adding your signature to
this.

I personally think NPR is consistently the best broadcast
journalism on the
air...in any media! "All things Considered" is worth this
resource all by
itself. If you agree, please sign and forward this.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.


Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its money too.
Gotta be fair.

Gregm

You seem to forget that Halliburton is a private company that provides
products and services to clients that contract for those same products
and services. Halliburtion is supposed to make a profit and pay

taxes.

NPR is not private and it is not supposed to make a profit and it does
not pay taxes.

As a stockholder in Halliburton I would fire any CEO for not making as
much money as he can from the clients. The fact that the government,

in

its stupidity, allowed a situation where Halliburton is the only
supplier of the services, in a area of the world, where the government
need the supply of those services is not Halliburtons fault but the
governments fault.

In the capitalist free market system you raise the price of your
products and services as high as possible. It it bankrupts the
government then it's the governments problem not Halliburtons. (of
course if the Government is the only customer of Halliburton then it
becomes Halliburtons problem.)

You obviously don't know much about the free market capitalist system.


I know that contracts awarded on a cost-plus and no bid basis aren't
elements of a "free market capitalist system." The CEO of Halliburton
has learned, as have many others, that he can make as "much money as he
can from the clients," if he operates on insider connections,
favoritism, cronyism, and back room dealing, instead of on true "free
market" principles.

Jeff



As I have explained before they are not cost-plus no bid contracts.
Because of the short time fuse available, there was not the time for the
normal 180 contract period. What they did was amend current contracts
to include services that the government needed.

Halliburton was the only company in the middle east that could meet the
requirements of the government. There was no cronyism, or favoritism or
back room deals. It was pretty much straight up in you face take it or
leave it.

Unfortunately the government was only in the position of taking it.

You have to get off this big conspiracy shtick. When you use the Achems
Razor approach to things it starts to make a lot more sense. Why would
there have to be some big conspiracy when the facts support other wise.

Halliburton was already there.
Halliburton was supporting the Saudi and Kuwaiti oil fields,
Halliburton had the port services in those countries.
Halliburton had the truck supply chain logistics in those countries

When the American army moved in it need those services, and Halliburton
was all ready there and doing it for the Saudis and the Kuwaiti's.

No other company was there or had facilities there.

So Halliburton got the job. Its as simple as that.

The Independent

"Pilot to Gunner: Bandits at 9 O'Clock."

In article , Jeff
McCann says...

I know that contracts awarded on a cost-plus and no bid basis aren't
elements of a "free market capitalist system." The CEO of Halliburton
has learned, as have many others, that he can make as "much money as he
can from the clients," if he operates on insider connections,
favoritism, cronyism, and back room dealing, instead of on true "free
market" principles.

What, you don't know what 'free market' means? It means they're
"free" to bend the taxpayer over and jam it to them. THey've
bought their president, and they're gonna get everything they
can out of the man before november.

Jim


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.......and in reply I say!:

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freemarket principles will provide the goods at maximum
profit.........for whom?

I know that contracts awarded on a cost-plus and no bid basis aren't
elements of a "free market capitalist system." The CEO of Halliburton
has learned, as have many others, that he can make as "much money as he
can from the clients,"

freemarket....I get as much as I can from those who pay for me. Now.
Quality? HUH! Service! HUH! Future? HUH!

Freemarket = make as much as you can.........now.......

if he operates on insider connections,
favoritism, cronyism, and back room dealing, instead of on true "free
market" principles.

Please lay out those principles. Where does it say tomorrow counts?
Where does it say the consumer counts at all?

You want free market, you get "what it takes" mentality.

If you don't believe me, look at at M$oft. Gates _would_ be Christ if
not for Govt regulation!
************************************************** ***
I have decided that I should not be offended by
anybody's behaviour but my own......the theory's
good, anyway.

The Independent of Clackamas County wrote in message
...


Greg Menke wrote:

Stuart Grey writes:


(Cliff Huprich) wrote in
e.com:


(Note: I snipped the prior sigs. Start over on your own
G.)

I thought you might be interested adding your signature to
this.

I personally think NPR is consistently the best broadcast
journalism on the
air...in any media! "All things Considered" is worth this
resource all by
itself. If you agree, please sign and forward this.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.


Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its money too.
Gotta be fair.

Gregm

You seem to forget that Halliburton is a private company that provides
products and services to clients that contract for those same products
and services. Halliburtion is supposed to make a profit and pay taxes.

NPR is not private and it is not supposed to make a profit and it does
not pay taxes.

As a stockholder in Halliburton I would fire any CEO for not making as
much money as he can from the clients. The fact that the government, in
its stupidity, allowed a situation where Halliburton is the only
supplier of the services, in a area of the world, where the government
need the supply of those services is not Halliburtons fault but the
governments fault.

In the capitalist free market system you raise the price of your
products and services as high as possible. It it bankrupts the
government then it's the governments problem not Halliburtons. (of
course if the Government is the only customer of Halliburton then it
becomes Halliburtons problem.)



You obviously don't know much about the free market capitalist system.

you obviously don't know anything about Halliburton.

Dale



The Independent

"Pilot to Gunner: Bandits at 9 O'Clock."

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:27:48 -0700, The Independent of Clackamas
County wrote:



Greg Menke wrote:

*snip*


You seem to forget that Halliburton is a private company that provides
products and services to clients that contract for those same products
and services. Halliburtion is supposed to make a profit and pay taxes.

NPR is not private and it is not supposed to make a profit and it does
not pay taxes.

This is true. NPR was set up to expose Americans to aspects
of reality NOT allowed by the commercial broadcasters...either because
those views were politically incorrect, or were not of broad enough
appeal. The bottom line here is that commercial broadcasters only
produce content that will make them the most money and tick off the
fewest sponsors. This is NOT the type of content that is the "best"
or most diverse, and, as I have pointed out elsewhere, one of
America's main strengths has been its diversity.


As a stockholder in Halliburton I would fire any CEO for not making as
much money as he can from the clients. The fact that the government, in
its stupidity, allowed a situation where Halliburton is the only
supplier of the services, in a area of the world, where the government
need the supply of those services is not Halliburtons fault but the
governments fault.

In the capitalist free market system you raise the price of your
products and services as high as possible. It it bankrupts the
government then it's the governments problem not Halliburtons. (of
course if the Government is the only customer of Halliburton then it
becomes Halliburtons problem.)

You obviously don't know much about the free market capitalist system.

Hum...It sounds, then, like you have nothing but admiration
for those folks in disaster zones who raise their prices 1000x or more
and feel that the state Attorney General has NO business bringing
charges against them.
As for the Halliburton situation...that is such a gordian
knot, I am not sure there is a right or wrong side. However, I have
seen a number of reports where military audits have found billing
problems that have yet to be resolved. Now...they may be the
only company with the abilities to do the job...I don't know.
However, for them to agree to deliver a case of cokes for $30 a case,
and to only deliver a six-pack (or as some have indicated...a
single can of coke) for that amount is defrauding you and me,
and the rest of the American public of the value we paid for,
not even to speak of how the troops putting their lives on the
line for us are getting shortchanged.
Dave Mundt

(Dave Mundt) wrote in
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 06:27:48 -0700, The Independent of
Clackamas County wrote:



Greg Menke wrote:

*snip*


You seem to forget that Halliburton is a private company
that provides products and services to clients that
contract for those same products and services.
Halliburtion is supposed to make a profit and pay taxes.

NPR is not private and it is not supposed to make a profit
and it does not pay taxes.

This is true. NPR was set up to expose Americans to
aspects
of reality NOT allowed by the commercial
broadcasters...

Translation: This guy thinks that NPR was created to spread
propaganda that the left wing commercial broadcasters thought
was too far left to broadcast and maintain any semblance of
credibility.

either because those views were politically
incorrect,

A politically incorrect view on NPR?! These guys DEFINE what is
politically incorrect!

or were not of broad enough appeal.

NPR is full of leftist bull**** only a Birkenstock wearer could
love.

Like "Climbing big trees to understand them"
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3871537
OR their wonderful story on Peat Bogs:
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3871344

The bottom
line here is that commercial broadcasters only produce
content that will make them the most money and tick off the
fewest sponsors.

Yeah. They can't be extremist wackos and stay in business. Go
figure.

This is NOT the type of content that is
the "best" or most diverse, and, as I have pointed out
elsewhere, one of America's main strengths has been its
diversity.

Diverse? As in 3 references to Kerry on their main webpage to
Bush's one?

On their politics page, they have a story "Critics Call for
Rumsfeld to Resign over Abuse"; a negative Bush story. Their
story "Bush Lawyer Quits over Ties to Anti-Kerry Group" which is
also negative on Bush, and they don't mention at all the Kerry
lawyer who was affiliated with MoveOn.org the slanderous 527
group that claimed that Bush is Hitler. They have their pro-
Kerry story "Crisscrossing America, Kerry Meets the Voters".
They have a story titled "Kerry Ad Controversy Puts Spotlight on
527s" where they damn the veterans, but don't say a peep about
Moveon.org slamming and they even lie about what the Swift Boat
Veterans for Truth is all about. They're all for infringing the
right of the veterans to free speech.

This isn't diverse, it's pure left wing propaganda.

Only a damned liar would even TRY and claim NPR is not left
wing. It should NOT be paid for with as much as a cent of
taxpayer money.

Why are you letting this liberal change the subject away from
the unconstitutional funding of NPR to their favorite lie
about some company no one gives a damn about?

Liberals are compulsive liars, and one of their FAVORITE
tactics is to change the subject when they are caught red
handed.


The Independent of Clackamas County
wrote in :



Greg Menke wrote:

Stuart Grey writes:


(Cliff Huprich) wrote in
e.com:


(Note: I snipped the prior sigs. Start over on your own
G.)

I thought you might be interested adding your signature
to this.

I personally think NPR is consistently the best broadcast
journalism on the
air...in any media! "All things Considered" is worth this
resource all by
itself. If you agree, please sign and forward this.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine
that spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party.
The Democrats created it and funded it with taxpayer
dollars to get their propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but
made to give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally
given by the Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.


Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its
money too. Gotta be fair.

Gregm

You seem to forget that Halliburton is a private company
that provides products and services to clients that
contract for those same products and services.
Halliburtion is supposed to make a profit and pay taxes.

NPR is not private and it is not supposed to make a profit
and it does not pay taxes.

As a stockholder in Halliburton I would fire any CEO for
not making as much money as he can from the clients. The
fact that the government, in its stupidity, allowed a
situation where Halliburton is the only supplier of the
services, in a area of the world, where the government need
the supply of those services is not Halliburtons fault but
the governments fault.

In the capitalist free market system you raise the price of
your products and services as high as possible. It it
bankrupts the government then it's the governments problem
not Halliburtons. (of course if the Government is the only
customer of Halliburton then it becomes Halliburtons
problem.)

You obviously don't know much about the free market
capitalist system.

The Independent

"Pilot to Gunner: Bandits at 9 O'Clock."

In article . 17,
Stuart Grey writes:

Liberals are compulsive liars, and one of their FAVORITE
tactics is to change the subject when they are caught red
handed.

Is this about WMDs again?

BTW, Why do idiots top-post and copy the entire prior post?
--
Cliff

Greg Menke wrote in
:

Stuart Grey writes:

(Cliff Huprich) wrote in
om:

(Note: I snipped the prior sigs. Start over on your own
G.)

I thought you might be interested adding your signature
to this.

I personally think NPR is consistently the best
broadcast journalism on the
air...in any media! "All things Considered" is worth
this resource all by
itself. If you agree, please sign and forward this.

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine
that spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party.
The Democrats created it and funded it with taxpayer
dollars to get their propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but
made to give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally
given by the Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its
money too. Gotta be fair.

Stupid liberal pet tricks: when caught red handed being
*******s, tell lies about the Republicans.

The simple fact is, the same wording that the libs claim
creats a wall of seperation between government and religion
woould also create a wall of seperation between government and
the press.

NPR should be made to repay all the money unconstitutionally
allocated to it, plus interest.

Stuart Grey writes:

Greg Menke wrote in
:

Stuart Grey writes:


NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine
that spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party.
The Democrats created it and funded it with taxpayer
dollars to get their propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but
made to give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally
given by the Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its
money too. Gotta be fair.

Stupid liberal pet tricks: when caught red handed being
*******s, tell lies about the Republicans.

The simple fact is, the same wording that the libs claim
creats a wall of seperation between government and religion
woould also create a wall of seperation between government and
the press.

NPR should be made to repay all the money unconstitutionally
allocated to it, plus interest.

Sure- I'm all for it as long as the interests being financed by the
rightwing nutjobs also have to repay, with interest.

Gregm

On 27 Aug 2004 08:53:08 -0400, Greg Menke
wrote:

Stuart Grey writes:

Greg Menke wrote in
:

Stuart Grey writes:


NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine
that spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party.
The Democrats created it and funded it with taxpayer
dollars to get their propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but
made to give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally
given by the Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

Sure- just as long as Halliburton has to give back its
money too. Gotta be fair.

Stupid liberal pet tricks: when caught red handed being
*******s, tell lies about the Republicans.

The simple fact is, the same wording that the libs claim
creats a wall of seperation between government and religion
woould also create a wall of seperation between government and
the press.

NPR should be made to repay all the money unconstitutionally
allocated to it, plus interest.

Sure- I'm all for it as long as the interests being financed by the
rightwing nutjobs also have to repay, with interest.

Gregm

Which begs the question..how come there are far more Millionaire
Democrats in Congress than Republican ones?

Gunner

"In my humble opinion, the petty carping levied against Bush by
the Democrats proves again, it is better to have your eye plucked
out by an eagle than to be nibbled to death by ducks." - Norman
Liebmann

In article . 17,
Stuart Grey writes:

Stupid liberal pet tricks: when caught red handed being
*******s, tell lies about the Republicans.

What lies are you thinking of? About WMDs again is it?

The simple fact is, the same wording that the libs claim
creats a wall of seperation between government and religion
woould also create a wall of seperation between government and
the press.

What "wording"?
There is seperation. Except when it comes to Faux News
& the shrubbie.

NPR should be made to repay all the money unconstitutionally
allocated to it, plus interest.

Huh? Plenty of money to clothe statues .....
--
Cliff

National Public Radio ... the lib network that we wingers must pay for
because no sponsor in their right mind would ever advertise on a network
of wacko's and weirdo's.
Today during one of Shawn Hannidy's marathon commercials I hit the NPR
button in time to hear a femo-mother beating the drum for more abortion
rights " I had 3 children before I was 20 " she whined. My first thought
was " if she could go back ... which one of her kids would she kill " ..
then she goes on to call the Pro -Lifer's " Anti-Choicers " .
I guess if we are to be called that then it's OK to call that side
Pro-Death ....

Just venting ... at was a miserable hot day at Kaydon

Tom

Cliff Huprich wrote:

In article . 17,
Stuart Grey writes:


Stupid liberal pet tricks: when caught red handed being
*******s, tell lies about the Republicans.


What lies are you thinking of? About WMDs again is it?


The simple fact is, the same wording that the libs claim
creats a wall of seperation between government and religion
woould also create a wall of seperation between government and
the press.


What "wording"?
There is seperation. Except when it comes to Faux News
& the shrubbie.


NPR should be made to repay all the money unconstitutionally
allocated to it, plus interest.


Huh? Plenty of money to clothe statues .....

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:45:55 GMT, Stuart Grey
wrote:


NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party.

Which, I suppose is the reason that the most often seen face on the
local "current events" programming here is that of george ("I can be
bought") petak, the republican sellout that was removed from office
for sucking ass with toxic tommy, who is now your "SUCKretary of HEW".

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.


And Halliburton must be made to do the same, the interst coming ffrom
their bought and paid for mouthpiece, gwbush. No open bidding as
required by our laws, but it doesn't seem to bother you there.
Strange.

If you want to bitch about waste, let's get rid of things like rayguns
library, and all of the other politicians that have their little
personal edifices of aggrandization that have nothing of worth in
them. (Hmmmm, that just eliminated all of them.)

The path now followed by the conservative republicans was well mapped
and documented,

By adolph Hitler.

Stuart Grey wrote in message .204.17...
[...]

NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

If the first amendment creates a seperation of church and state,
it also creates a seperation of press and state by the very same
words.

Yessir, those brothers on Car Talk are surely a couple of commies.
And that lady pet doctor on Calling All Pets is obviously a socialist.
The clever panelists on My Word and on Says You are concealing
Democratic lies amongst all the puns and word play.

Have you ever actually listened to NPR?

Dave

In article , Dave Wilson
says...

Yessir, those brothers on Car Talk are surely a couple of commies.

Ha ha ha ha. You never know, they may be planning on
taking over the country by giving out car advice!

Good one.

Jim


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NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine that
spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party. The Democrats
created it and funded it with taxpayer dollars to get their
propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but made to
give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally given by the
Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

If the first amendment creates a seperation of church and state,
it also creates a seperation of press and state by the very same
words.


Written like a mindless drone who has never actually listened to NPR.
Sure there are liberals there, and it taints their reporting. At least
they report.

THERE IS NO CONSERVATIVE NEWS RADIO

I said NEWS, not talk.

Set your tv clicker to bop between fox and cnn. The tickers run the same
stories, the same reporting there is no difference.

I like listening to the BBC[just so there is a different bias], and if
you want to hear crazy left wing bias, listen to that, makes Nina
Toten234,f

yourname wrote in
:



NPR is a liberal/socialist/communist propaganda machine
that spews lies and distortions for the Democrat party.
The Democrats created it and funded it with taxpayer
dollars to get their propaganda out.

It should not only be cut off from government funds, but
made to give back all the funds it was unconstitutionally
given by the Democrats, PLUS INTEREST.

If the first amendment creates a seperation of church and
state, it also creates a seperation of press and state by
the very same words.


Written like a mindless drone who has never actually
listened to NPR. Sure there are liberals there, and it
taints their reporting. At least they report.

Written like a liberal who has his ass planted on his head.

Sure I listen to NPR. I play "spot the lie" and "How was this
piece pro-socialist ****".

I like to know what the current commie lies are; how best to
counter the leftist lies by first studying them to see what
the hell they're lying about now.

THERE IS NO CONSERVATIVE NEWS RADIO

Okay, now you've started to gibber. Something about you people
that you have a screw loose and can't keep on the subject.

snip

"Stuart Grey" wrote in message
. 199.17...
THERE IS NO CONSERVATIVE NEWS RADIO

Okay, now you've started to gibber. Something about you people
that you have a screw loose and can't keep on the subject.

When you say ""subject"" do you mean metalwork, cnc machines, or
survivalism?

Joel. phx

I will agree that ""you people"" have a screw loose.


snip

In article . 17,
Stuart Grey writes:

Sure I listen to NPR. I play "spot the lie" and "How was this
piece pro-socialist ****".

I like to know what the current commie lies are; how best to
counter the leftist lies by first studying them to see what
the hell they're lying about now.

Still no clues?
--
Cliff

This chain letter is way out of date. It is now close to an urban myth.
It was started in 1995 when Newt Genrich was threatening to cut NPR off.
Fortunately there are enough of us who understand what "Fair and
Balanced" really means to make the right wingers in congress back off.
See: http://www.npr.org/about/urbanmyth.html

BTW, Dispite claims by the rabid Right that NPR is liberal, a 4 month
analysis of guests apearing on NPR news programs showed that
conservative Republicans out numbered all Democrats by 3 to 2. Only
about 20% of the comentators were political at all and of those the
division was about even between left and right leaning. However, the
positions of the right leaning comentators was far more stridently
conservative while no extremely left leaning comentators were presented.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:14:13 -0400, Glenn Ashmore wrote:

||
||BTW, Dispite claims by the rabid Right that NPR is liberal, a 4 month
||analysis of guests apearing on NPR news programs showed that
||conservative Republicans out numbered all Democrats by 3 to 2. Only
||about 20% of the comentators were political at all and of those the
||division was about even between left and right leaning. However, the
||positions of the right leaning comentators was far more stridently
||conservative while no extremely left leaning comentators were presented.

I have been listening to NPR for a couple of decades, I reckon. It's been my
observation that they are almost always as centrist as any new organization I am
aware of. Despite the admittedly left leanings of several (most?) of the
reporters, it rarely comes through in the stories. I only know Nina Totenburg is
a leftist from stories about her in other media.
And the reporting is first-hand, first-person, and first-rate. The best
available on the radio. No contest.

I suspect the high percentage of conservative comentators is because they
were simply more interesting
Texas Parts Guy

In article , (Rex B) writes:

I have been listening to NPR for a couple of decades, I reckon. It's been my
observation that they are almost always as centrist as any new organization I
am aware of. Despite the admittedly left leanings of several (most?)

You from winger country?

of the
reporters, it rarely comes through in the stories. I only know Nina Totenburg
is a leftist from stories about her in other media.

"Media" like "Faux News" & Rush?

Let's see ... the wingers are always getting caught telling lies .... so
anyone that actually reports is a leftie?
Are "liar" and "winger" the same word?

I suspect the high percentage of conservative comentators is because they
were simply more interesting

Fiction does sell well. Unless wingers have to read ....

--
Cliff

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:14:13 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:
BTW, Dispite claims by the rabid Right that NPR is liberal, a 4 month
analysis of guests apearing on NPR news programs showed that
conservative Republicans out numbered all Democrats by 3 to 2. Only
about 20% of the comentators were political at all and of those the
division was about even between left and right leaning. However, the
positions of the right leaning comentators was far more stridently
conservative while no extremely left leaning comentators were presented.

I listen to NPR a lot. And judging by their story content, I believe
all their staff are black, lesbian, jewish, illegal alien,
environmentalists, PETA menbers, with aids.

Having said that, they still have great fearure stories.

John Normile

On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:14:13 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:


BTW, Dispite claims by the rabid Right that NPR is liberal, a 4 month
analysis of guests apearing on NPR news programs showed that
conservative Republicans out numbered all Democrats by 3 to 2. Only
about 20% of the comentators were political at all and of those the
division was about even between left and right leaning. However, the
positions of the right leaning comentators was far more stridently
conservative while no extremely left leaning comentators were presented.

Cites? And dates of course. NPR was lefty during the Clinton Admin,
and may have changed stance somewhat since the country Went Right.

Gunner

"In my humble opinion, the petty carping levied against Bush by
the Democrats proves again, it is better to have your eye plucked
out by an eagle than to be nibbled to death by ducks." - Norman
Liebmann

Cites? And dates of course. NPR was lefty during the Clinton Admin,
and may have changed stance somewhat since the country Went Right.

Gunner


Still way over there on the left. Some things never change.

Howard

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:06:59 GMT
in misc.survivalism :

BTW, Dispite claims by the rabid Right that NPR is liberal, a 4 month
analysis of guests apearing on NPR news programs showed that
conservative Republicans out numbered all Democrats by 3 to 2. Only
about 20% of the comentators were political at all and of those the
division was about even between left and right leaning. However, the
positions of the right leaning comentators was far more stridently
conservative while no extremely left leaning comentators were presented.

Cites? And dates of course. NPR was lefty during the Clinton Admin,
and may have changed stance somewhat since the country Went Right.

Government funded Radio tends to reflect the government that funds it.


tschus
pyotr


--
pyotr filipivich
"Do not argue with the forces of nature, for you are small,
insignificant, and biodegradable."

Gunner wrote in message . ..
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 08:14:13 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:


BTW, Dispite claims by the rabid Right that NPR is liberal, a 4 month
analysis of guests apearing on NPR news programs showed that
conservative Republicans out numbered all Democrats by 3 to 2. Only
about 20% of the comentators were political at all and of those the
division was about even between left and right leaning. However, the
positions of the right leaning comentators was far more stridently
conservative while no extremely left leaning comentators were presented.

Cites?

Rush? Do you ever listen to anything BUT winger-dribble?

And dates of course.

Why the endless fear of facts (and actual news)?

NPR was lefty during the Clinton Admin,

Like anyone not to the "right" of Attila & Hitler & Stalin?

and may have changed stance somewhat since the country Went Right.

What makes you think everyone else went insane?
Your lack of knowledge & education or Rush & the wingerbloggers?

"Cites"?

Just because the shrub (anti-psychotics?) & Rush are on drugs
(how are yours holding out BTW?)is not a good reason for supporting
or claiming the same delusions (do you too hear voices telling
you to kill?)

How many times does it take to have those rather blatent lies
they tell pointed out to you before it sinks in? The wingers lied to
you (and you bought it each time and then posted the rubbish)times
beyond my counting. Actual facts that they lied about were presented ..
which you ignored (but will be happy to repost the lies later anyway).

Any idea how stupid that is (and you look)?
Given their (and your) track record ... get a clue, even if you
have to buy some from someone with that liberal spit education.
At least most of them can think for themselves. Clearly you
cannot.

HTH
--
Cliff

On 27 Aug 2004 10:21:50 -0700, (Cliff Huprich)
wrote:


Ummmm, Cliff. Trying to use logic with gummer is like trying to push
water in a column without any container. Gummer is a native
kaliforneean, one of those that doesn't realilze that outside of the
state, everyone with common sense considers the state the land of
lunatics, correctly.

Lenniethelurker wrote in message
...
On 27 Aug 2004 10:21:50 -0700, (Cliff Huprich)
wrote:


Ummmm, Cliff. Trying to use logic with gummer is like trying to push
water in a column without any container. Gummer is a native
kaliforneean, one of those that doesn't realilze that outside of the
state, everyone with common sense considers the state the land of
lunatics, correctly.

AAhh, the bigot rears his ugly head...

Joel. phx

Hates them "japs" too.

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:34:25 -0500, wrote:

On 27 Aug 2004 10:21:50 -0700, (Cliff Huprich)
wrote:


Ummmm, Cliff. Trying to use logic with gummer is like trying to push
water in a column without any container. Gummer is a native
kaliforneean, one of those that doesn't realilze that outside of the
state, everyone with common sense considers the state the land of
lunatics, correctly.

Chortle..I was born in Florida, raised in Michigan, and a goodly chunk
of the world.

So much for Leslie's veracity.

He is just a tired old Wobblie that still drags his flabby old ass
down to Wobblie headquarters a couple times a week, to huddle around
the mimeograph machine with the rest of the retired union scum
plotting the Death of the Bosses.

Gunner

"In my humble opinion, the petty carping levied against Bush by
the Democrats proves again, it is better to have your eye plucked
out by an eagle than to be nibbled to death by ducks." - Norman
Liebmann

I have pretty much quit listening to NPR. Here in the Seattle area
there are at least three NPR stations. I don't mind it when they are
broadcasting programs that they originate. But I really don't like to
listen to news on the radio. Newspapers do a much better job of
indepth coverage, and one can skip things that don't interest one.
What I really hate about NPR is that sometimes I can switch between
the three stations using preset buttons and hear the same program on
all three. Waste of air space.

And in this area, they play no classical music. They leave that to
the commercial station.

Click and Clack, Good. Mary McChorlin ( misspelled ) Good Another
Jazz program good. The News.........Mostly human interest drivel and
worst repeated word for word every couple of hours.

Dan


Glenn Ashmore wrote in message news:HvkXc.29273$A91.4363@okepread02...
This chain letter is way out of date. It is now close to an urban myth.
It was started in 1995 when Newt Genrich was threatening to cut NPR off.
Fortunately there are enough of us who understand what "Fair and
Balanced" really means to make the right wingers in congress back off.
See: http://www.npr.org/about/urbanmyth.html

BTW, Dispite claims by the rabid Right that NPR is liberal, a 4 month
analysis of guests apearing on NPR news programs showed that
conservative Republicans out numbered all Democrats by 3 to 2. Only
about 20% of the comentators were political at all and of those the
division was about even between left and right leaning. However, the
positions of the right leaning comentators was far more stridently
conservative while no extremely left leaning comentators were presented.

Cliff Huprich wrote:

snipped all your leftest communist socialist bull****

If NPR, PBS, and NEA are so dammed important why don't all you stupid
**** leftist fund it by writing a check to it and leave the taxes for
the government to

"establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, Provide for the Common
defense, and promote the general welfare"

(I don't see anything about NPR, PBS and the NEA in the constitution) .

Don't let these traitors to every thing our fore fathers created and
then fought and died for to create theis greate Nation, win and destroy it.

The Independent
"Pilot to Gunner: Bandits at 9 O'Clock."