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Source for metal or plastic bezels?
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10.  -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour |
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:10:11 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. Find a pallet with some good looking wood. Put it on your CNC router; cut out a bunch of nice looking and precisely fitted frames. Cost of $0 (aside from time to program the CNC and/or any broken router bits). -- jiw |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Take the cheap foam tape off and buy some good 3M automotive trim tape. It will be gray thin foam with red peel strip. Auto parts store has it in various widths. It is the stuff that holds the trim on most cars these days. -- Steve W. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour An array of high brightness LEDs on an aluminum core board like that usually wants to be heat sunk pretty well to get optimum lifetime. Either the board is screwed to a heatsink with thermal grease in between, or it is attached with thermally conductive double-sided tape like this: http://www.amazon.com/3M-Thermally-C...sim_sbs_misc_4 Not sure where to find small quantities of this stuff. You probably will not find bezels made for these since they are usually put behind diffusers to make uniform panel lights or backlights. |
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On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 01:38:57 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Take the cheap foam tape off and buy some good 3M automotive trim tape. It will be gray thin foam with red peel strip. Auto parts store has it in various widths. It is the stuff that holds the trim on most cars these days. And I don't think that's an actual 3M logo on the tape. Chinese ripoff probably. Pete Keillor |
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"Steve W." wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Take the cheap foam tape off and buy some good 3M automotive trim tape. It will be gray thin foam with red peel strip. Auto parts store has it in various widths. It is the stuff that holds the trim on most cars these days. -- Steve W. This, replace the knock off "3W" tape with real 3M high bond tape and forget about ever removing it. |
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On Jun 4, 10:10*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. *The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. *I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. *sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. * -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour Have you looked a the usual suspects for such, like Mouser or Digi- Key? Even Jameco had them decades back. Probably more like $10@, though. $10 will just about get you a roll of aluminum tape and an Xacto knife... Stan |
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On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:10:11 -0700
Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. snip RTV caulk/adhesive usually handles heat pretty well. There are more expensive high temp versions too. Lay a thick bead along the outside edge and use the original tape to hold it in place till it sets up. Looks like there is already one hole through it. Can you drill another in the opposite corner and just screw it down? -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 10:09:46 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote: "Steve W." wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Take the cheap foam tape off and buy some good 3M automotive trim tape. It will be gray thin foam with red peel strip. Auto parts store has it in various widths. It is the stuff that holds the trim on most cars these days. -- Steve W. This, replace the knock off "3W" tape with real 3M high bond tape and forget about ever removing it. Thanks for the thoughts, guys. Another reason for the bezel was crash proofing, protecting the teensy LEDs. These are going on flashlights. -- I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money. --Thomas Sowell |
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Source for metal or plastic bezels?
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:54:24 -0700 (PDT), Stanley Schaefer
wrote: On Jun 4, 10:10*pm, Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. *The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. *I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. *sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. * -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour Have you looked a the usual suspects for such, like Mouser or Digi- Key? Even Jameco had them decades back. Probably more like $10@, though. $10 will just about get you a roll of aluminum tape and an Xacto knife... Thanks, Stan. I hadn't thought of those sources and will check with 'em. -- I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money. --Thomas Sowell |
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Source for metal or plastic bezels?
On 6/5/2013 00:10, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour How about a light switch cover? Cut out the correct size square & Bob's your uncle. -- Steve Walker (remove brain when replying) |
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Steve Walker wrote: On 6/5/2013 00:10, Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour How about a light switch cover? Cut out the correct size square & Bob's your uncle. Or cellular PVC trim board i.e. Azek or it's clones, cheap and easy to machine. |
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Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. Thanks for the thoughts, guys. Another reason for the bezel was crash proofing, protecting the teensy LEDs. These are going on flashlights. If no CNC router, time to learn the joys of low-budget 3D printing the old fashioned way. Which is secret code words for less than $10 worth of hot glue - popsicle sticks optional but can be very useful, and hopefully you already have a hot glue gun, because the sub $10 models are not that nice. In low budget, there is no printer other than you manipulating the hot glue gun.... If you want to bolt them on, insert nuts and bolts before applying glue, and capture the nuts. I've remanufactured quite a few laptop power supply cords using nothing more (after cutting the old plastic down to find the plug, cutting out the shredded section of wire near the plug, and resoldering the wires to the plug.) Sections of popsicle stick provide some non-melty linearity and a bit more strength. You could also use RTV Silicone, or polyurethane, in the "aka Caulk" form. Just takes longer to harden. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away. |
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On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing! |
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On 6/5/2013 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing! Tom, did you notice how small the LEDs were? |
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On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 17:03:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:54:24 -0700 (PDT), Stanley Schaefer wrote: On Jun 4, 10:10*pm, Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. *The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. *I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. *sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. * -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour Have you looked a the usual suspects for such, like Mouser or Digi- Key? Even Jameco had them decades back. Probably more like $10@, though. $10 will just about get you a roll of aluminum tape and an Xacto knife... Thanks, Stan. I hadn't thought of those sources and will check with 'em. Mouser, DigiKey, Allied Electronics, All Electronics - all NOGO. Jameco website under construction, site down. (really stupid, huh?) PRDproducts.com has potential. Email sent. Thanks again, guys. -- I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money. --Thomas Sowell |
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On 6/5/2013 9:17 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money. --Thomas Sowell Great sig, Larry. |
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On 6/5/2013 10:07 PM, Richard wrote:
On 6/5/2013 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing! Tom, did you notice how small the LEDs were? Just the whole panel, about 2x3 |
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On 6/6/2013 7:24 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 6/5/2013 10:07 PM, Richard wrote: On 6/5/2013 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing! Tom, did you notice how small the LEDs were? Just the whole panel, about 2x3 I thought the problem was that the LEDs were coming loose when they warmed up. |
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Larry Jaques wrote: Thanks, Stan. I hadn't thought of those sources and will check with 'em. Make your own? http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Made-Bezel-Window-for-LCD-LED-Displays/ |
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Larry Jaques wrote: Mouser, DigiKey, Allied Electronics, All Electronics - all NOGO. Jameco website under construction, site down. (really stupid, huh?) PRDproducts.com has potential. Email sent. Thanks again, guys. Digikey carries PRDproducts and 3M http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?pv47=8855&FV=fff40008%2Cfff80027&mnonly= 0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm =0&fid=0&pageSize=25 |
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On 6/6/2013 8:52 PM, Richard wrote:
On 6/6/2013 7:24 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: On 6/5/2013 10:07 PM, Richard wrote: On 6/5/2013 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar performance after they warm up for awhile. I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that conversation very well. sigh http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg Retainer depth of about 3mm. Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm Qty needed: 1 dozen. Budget for this project: $10. -- A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself. -- Louis L'Amour Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing! Tom, did you notice how small the LEDs were? Just the whole panel, about 2x3 I thought the problem was that the LEDs were coming loose when they warmed up. Well, it's only for Larry... |
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On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:42:49 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote: Thanks, Stan. I hadn't thought of those sources and will check with 'em. Make your own? http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Made-Bezel-Window-for-LCD-LED-Displays/ That was really nicely done - both the bezel and the instructable. I have done similar things by laser printing (white on black lettering) and sandwiching it between a sheet of plexi or lexan and the black-painted enclosure. |
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