DIYbanter

DIYbanter (https://www.diybanter.com/)
-   Metalworking (https://www.diybanter.com/metalworking/)
-   -   Source for metal or plastic bezels? (https://www.diybanter.com/metalworking/357418-source-metal-plastic-bezels.html)

Larry Jaques[_4_] June 5th 13 05:10 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour

James Waldby[_3_] June 5th 13 06:07 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:10:11 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:

I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)


Find a pallet with some good looking wood. Put it on your
CNC router; cut out a bunch of nice looking and precisely
fitted frames. Cost of $0 (aside from time to program the
CNC and/or any broken router bits).

--
jiw

Steve W.[_4_] June 5th 13 06:38 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour



Take the cheap foam tape off and buy some good 3M automotive trim tape.
It will be gray thin foam with red peel strip.

Auto parts store has it in various widths. It is the stuff that holds
the trim on most cars these days.

--
Steve W.

anorton June 5th 13 08:29 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


An array of high brightness LEDs on an aluminum core board like that usually
wants to be heat sunk pretty well to get optimum lifetime. Either the board
is screwed to a heatsink with thermal grease in between, or it is attached
with thermally conductive double-sided tape like this:
http://www.amazon.com/3M-Thermally-C...sim_sbs_misc_4
Not sure where to find small quantities of this stuff.

You probably will not find bezels made for these since they are usually put
behind diffusers to make uniform panel lights or backlights.


Pete Keillor[_2_] June 5th 13 01:26 PM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 01:38:57 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour



Take the cheap foam tape off and buy some good 3M automotive trim tape.
It will be gray thin foam with red peel strip.

Auto parts store has it in various widths. It is the stuff that holds
the trim on most cars these days.


And I don't think that's an actual 3M logo on the tape. Chinese
ripoff probably.

Pete Keillor

Pete C. June 5th 13 04:09 PM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 

"Steve W." wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


Take the cheap foam tape off and buy some good 3M automotive trim tape.
It will be gray thin foam with red peel strip.

Auto parts store has it in various widths. It is the stuff that holds
the trim on most cars these days.

--
Steve W.


This, replace the knock off "3W" tape with real 3M high bond tape and
forget about ever removing it.

Stanley Schaefer[_2_] June 5th 13 04:54 PM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On Jun 4, 10:10*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. *The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. *I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. *sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. *;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour


Have you looked a the usual suspects for such, like Mouser or Digi-
Key? Even Jameco had them decades back. Probably more like $10@,
though. $10 will just about get you a roll of aluminum tape and an
Xacto knife...

Stan

Leon Fisk June 5th 13 07:07 PM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 21:10:11 -0700
Larry Jaques wrote:

I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

snip

RTV caulk/adhesive usually handles heat pretty well. There are more
expensive high temp versions too. Lay a thick bead along the outside
edge and use the original tape to hold it in place till it sets up.

Looks like there is already one hole through it. Can you drill another
in the opposite corner and just screw it down?

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
Remove no.spam for email


Larry Jaques[_4_] June 6th 13 01:00 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 10:09:46 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


"Steve W." wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


Take the cheap foam tape off and buy some good 3M automotive trim tape.
It will be gray thin foam with red peel strip.

Auto parts store has it in various widths. It is the stuff that holds
the trim on most cars these days.

--
Steve W.


This, replace the knock off "3W" tape with real 3M high bond tape and
forget about ever removing it.


Thanks for the thoughts, guys. Another reason for the bezel was crash
proofing, protecting the teensy LEDs. These are going on flashlights.

--
I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you
have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money.
--Thomas Sowell

Larry Jaques[_4_] June 6th 13 01:03 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:54:24 -0700 (PDT), Stanley Schaefer
wrote:

On Jun 4, 10:10*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. *The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. *I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. *sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. *;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour


Have you looked a the usual suspects for such, like Mouser or Digi-
Key? Even Jameco had them decades back. Probably more like $10@,
though. $10 will just about get you a roll of aluminum tape and an
Xacto knife...


Thanks, Stan. I hadn't thought of those sources and will check with
'em.

--
I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you
have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money.
--Thomas Sowell

Steve Walker[_10_] June 6th 13 02:18 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On 6/5/2013 00:10, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour



How about a light switch cover? Cut out the correct size square & Bob's
your uncle.

--
Steve Walker
(remove brain when replying)

Pete C. June 6th 13 02:36 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 

Steve Walker wrote:

On 6/5/2013 00:10, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


How about a light switch cover? Cut out the correct size square & Bob's
your uncle.


Or cellular PVC trim board i.e. Azek or it's clones, cheap and easy to
machine.

Ecnerwal[_3_] June 6th 13 02:44 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
In article ,
Larry Jaques wrote:

I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.


Thanks for the thoughts, guys. Another reason for the bezel was crash
proofing, protecting the teensy LEDs. These are going on flashlights.


If no CNC router, time to learn the joys of low-budget 3D printing the
old fashioned way. Which is secret code words for less than $10 worth of
hot glue - popsicle sticks optional but can be very useful, and
hopefully you already have a hot glue gun, because the sub $10 models
are not that nice. In low budget, there is no printer other than you
manipulating the hot glue gun....

If you want to bolt them on, insert nuts and bolts before applying glue,
and capture the nuts.

I've remanufactured quite a few laptop power supply cords using nothing
more (after cutting the old plastic down to find the plug, cutting out
the shredded section of wire near the plug, and resoldering the wires to
the plug.) Sections of popsicle stick provide some non-melty linearity
and a bit more strength.

You could also use RTV Silicone, or polyurethane, in the "aka Caulk"
form. Just takes longer to harden.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
Please don't feed the trolls. Killfile and ignore them so they will go away.

Tom Gardner[_6_] June 6th 13 02:52 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica
and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold
the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing!

Richard[_9_] June 6th 13 03:07 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On 6/5/2013 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica
and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold
the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing!



Tom, did you notice how small the LEDs were?

Larry Jaques[_4_] June 6th 13 03:17 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On Wed, 05 Jun 2013 17:03:20 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:54:24 -0700 (PDT), Stanley Schaefer
wrote:

On Jun 4, 10:10*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. *The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. *I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. *sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. *;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour


Have you looked a the usual suspects for such, like Mouser or Digi-
Key? Even Jameco had them decades back. Probably more like $10@,
though. $10 will just about get you a roll of aluminum tape and an
Xacto knife...


Thanks, Stan. I hadn't thought of those sources and will check with
'em.


Mouser, DigiKey, Allied Electronics, All Electronics - all NOGO.
Jameco website under construction, site down. (really stupid, huh?)
PRDproducts.com has potential. Email sent.

Thanks again, guys.

--
I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you
have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money.
--Thomas Sowell

Richard[_9_] June 6th 13 03:42 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On 6/5/2013 9:17 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you
have earned, but it is not greed to want take someone else's money.
--Thomas Sowell




Great sig, Larry.

Tom Gardner[_6_] June 7th 13 01:24 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On 6/5/2013 10:07 PM, Richard wrote:
On 6/5/2013 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica
and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold
the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing!



Tom, did you notice how small the LEDs were?


Just the whole panel, about 2x3


Richard[_9_] June 7th 13 01:52 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On 6/6/2013 7:24 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 6/5/2013 10:07 PM, Richard wrote:
On 6/5/2013 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica
and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold
the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing!



Tom, did you notice how small the LEDs were?


Just the whole panel, about 2x3



I thought the problem was that the LEDs were coming loose when they
warmed up.



Michael A. Terrell June 7th 13 02:42 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 

Larry Jaques wrote:

Thanks, Stan. I hadn't thought of those sources and will check with
'em.



Make your own?


http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Made-Bezel-Window-for-LCD-LED-Displays/

Michael A. Terrell June 7th 13 02:47 AM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 

Larry Jaques wrote:

Mouser, DigiKey, Allied Electronics, All Electronics - all NOGO.
Jameco website under construction, site down. (really stupid, huh?)
PRDproducts.com has potential. Email sent.

Thanks again, guys.


Digikey carries PRDproducts and 3M
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/dksearch/dksus.dll?pv47=8855&FV=fff40008%2Cfff80027&mnonly= 0&newproducts=0&ColumnSort=0&page=1&quantity=0&ptm =0&fid=0&pageSize=25

Tom Gardner[_6_] June 7th 13 03:55 PM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On 6/6/2013 8:52 PM, Richard wrote:
On 6/6/2013 7:24 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 6/5/2013 10:07 PM, Richard wrote:
On 6/5/2013 8:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 6/5/2013 12:10 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I have to retain some little LED panels to a flat surface. The 3M
doublestick adhesive foam is proving to have less than stellar
performance after they warm up for awhile.

I sourced these panels from China and none of the sellers have any
clue for bezels. I don't think their translators handled that
conversation very well. sigh

http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...lFrontBack.jpg
http://www.homeandgardenhandyman.com...PanelSizes.jpg
Retainer depth of about 3mm.
Opening for LEDs: 52-55mm W x 36-36.5mm

Qty needed: 1 dozen.
Budget for this project: $10. ;)

--
A mind, like a home, is furnished by its owner, so if
one's life is cold and bare he can blame none but himself.
-- Louis L'Amour


Cut the male and female patterns from ply and stack pieces of Formica
and rout them out with a bit with a roller to follow the pattern. Hold
the parts with screws and washers clamping them in place. Zing!


Tom, did you notice how small the LEDs were?


Just the whole panel, about 2x3



I thought the problem was that the LEDs were coming loose when they
warmed up.




Well, it's only for Larry...

RangersSuck June 7th 13 05:15 PM

Source for metal or plastic bezels?
 
On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:42:49 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:



Thanks, Stan. I hadn't thought of those sources and will check with


'em.






Make your own?





http://www.instructables.com/id/Home-Made-Bezel-Window-for-LCD-LED-Displays/


That was really nicely done - both the bezel and the instructable. I have done similar things by laser printing (white on black lettering) and sandwiching it between a sheet of plexi or lexan and the black-painted enclosure.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:27 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 DIYbanter