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How to properly scrap a machine
I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder
http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the machine, as contamination? Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after taking off what I need? Clueless in scrap |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote:
I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the machine, as contamination? Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after taking off what I need? It's more likely that the scrap yard is happy to pay you scrap steel prices for scrap copper. I'm probably as clueless about scrap as you are, but it occurs to me that if you have any really low paid help you may want to investigate taking the copper out of the motor and selling it separately. -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com |
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On 2011-12-05, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the machine, as contamination? Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after taking off what I need? It's more likely that the scrap yard is happy to pay you scrap steel prices for scrap copper. I'm probably as clueless about scrap as you are, but it occurs to me that if you have any really low paid help you may want to investigate taking the copper out of the motor and selling it separately. I have a medium paid help help, but he is very busy. The motor is only 1 HP, not worth the time. i |
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"Ignoramus20484" wrote in message ... On 2011-12-05, Tim Wescott wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the machine, as contamination? Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after taking off what I need? It's more likely that the scrap yard is happy to pay you scrap steel prices for scrap copper. I'm probably as clueless about scrap as you are, but it occurs to me that if you have any really low paid help you may want to investigate taking the copper out of the motor and selling it separately. I have a medium paid help help, but he is very busy. The motor is only 1 HP, not worth the time. Electric motors should be separated out there is a category for just those. |
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On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484
wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Seems to be "stuck" Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a new machinery seller. Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong with it? Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper? Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the machine, as contamination? Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after taking off what I need? Clueless in scrap One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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Ignoramus20484 on Sun, 04 Dec
2011 21:30:33 -0600 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the machine, as contamination? If you leave it on, they will pay you scrap steel prices for an electrical motor. Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after taking off what I need? Your time, vs the possible return on the scrap value of the motor. Clueless in scrap "Strip it for parts" - separate the motor, "scrap as unit", any wiring, yank and add to the copper wire pile. Computer/electrical components - like wise. It might be "worth it" time wise, to just take the big pieces off and let them have the whole thing "as is. And they can have someone get the copper bits, themselves. -- pyotr Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers does it take to change a lightbulb. |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Seems to be "stuck" Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a new machinery seller. Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong with it? Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper? Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck. That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned. Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy balanced, might make it valuable maybe not. Best Regards Tom. -- http://fija.org/ |
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On Dec 4, 10:30*pm, Ignoramus20484 ignoramus20...@NOSPAM.
20484.invalid wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder *http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. If you have the room, I would list it on Craigslist and Ebay with an honest description and also saying that if no one wants the whole machine you will sell parts off it. You might find someone willing to pay a bit over scrap . Say a retired person like me that would want to have a project. Dan |
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I don't think it matters much. I take in a whole car or truck and they
don't worry about whether on not the started and alternator, etc., have been removed. Here's a partial list of scrap prices today at the place I go: Electric Motors LB ..10 Sealed Unit LB ..05 Starters/Alternators LB ..10 Unprepared Iron Ton 220 Sheet Iron Ton 175 3' Prepared Iron Ton 235 3' Foundry Grade Iron Ton 265 #1 Cast Iron Ton 270 #2 Cast Iron Ton 185 Breakable Cast Ton 125 Carbide LB 5.00 Steel Turnings Ton 115 Dirty Motors Ton 210 Junk Bus Ton 145 Junk Motor Home/Camper Will Accept $0 Deduct for Tires Junk Car Bodies Ton 175 Sorry about the formating. Pete Stanaitis ------------------ |
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On Dec 5, 1:54*am, "azotic" wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder *http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Seems to be "stuck" Now thats an interesting admission/comment *from both a machinist and a new machinery seller. Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong with it? Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper? Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck. That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned. Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy balanced, might make it valuable maybe not. Best Regards Tom. --http://fija.org/- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ig..many times grinder motors are "special"..as in balanced/special spindles/shafts/etc. It may very well be worth keeping. TMT |
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On Dec 5, 12:20*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder *http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Seems to be "stuck" Now thats an interesting admission/comment *from both a machinist and a new machinery seller. Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong with it? Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper? Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the machine, as contamination? Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after taking off what I need? Clueless in scrap One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Gunner Asch LOL...an interesting comment from someone who is jealous of Ig being successful in his ventures while you wallow in Taft, Ca posting conservative crap on Usenet. Got those creditors paid off yet Gummer? If you are actually willing to work, maybe Ig will give you a job cleaning machines. TMT |
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On 2011-12-05, azotic wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Seems to be "stuck" Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a new machinery seller. Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong with it? Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper? Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck. That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned. Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy balanced, might make it valuable maybe not. Best Regards Tom. Azotic, you almost get the prize, your answer was the closest. There is a hard to find table lock under the table, which was partially engaged. The machine is fine. |
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"Ignoramus12217" wrote in message ... On 2011-12-05, azotic wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Seems to be "stuck" Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a new machinery seller. Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong with it? Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper? Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck. That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned. Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy balanced, might make it valuable maybe not. Best Regards Tom. Azotic, you almost get the prize, your answer was the closest. There is a hard to find table lock under the table, which was partially engaged. The machine is fine. Sounds like its ready for ebay. Best Regards Tom. -- http://fija.org/ |
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On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:48:45 -0600, Ignoramus12217
wrote: On 2011-12-05, azotic wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote: I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder http://goo.gl/cktGy The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no interest in fixing it. Seems to be "stuck" Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a new machinery seller. Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong with it? Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper? Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck. That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned. Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy balanced, might make it valuable maybe not. Best Regards Tom. Azotic, you almost get the prize, your answer was the closest. There is a hard to find table lock under the table, which was partially engaged. The machine is fine. \ And before we jumped on you and forced you into checking.. you were going to scrap it. Sure you are right for the business? Grin Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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