How to properly scrap a machine
 

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other
electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is
something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this
machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the
machine, as contamination?

Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after
taking off what I need?

Clueless in scrap

How to properly scrap a machine
 

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other
electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is
something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this
machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the
machine, as contamination?

Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after
taking off what I need?

It's more likely that the scrap yard is happy to pay you scrap steel
prices for scrap copper.

I'm probably as clueless about scrap as you are, but it occurs to me that
if you have any really low paid help you may want to investigate taking
the copper out of the motor and selling it separately.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

How to properly scrap a machine
 

On 2011-12-05, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other
electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is
something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this
machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the
machine, as contamination?

Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after
taking off what I need?

It's more likely that the scrap yard is happy to pay you scrap steel
prices for scrap copper.

I'm probably as clueless about scrap as you are, but it occurs to me that
if you have any really low paid help you may want to investigate taking
the copper out of the motor and selling it separately.


I have a medium paid help help, but he is very busy. The motor is only
1 HP, not worth the time.

i

How to properly scrap a machine
 

"Ignoramus20484" wrote in message
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On 2011-12-05, Tim Wescott wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484 wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other
electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is
something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this
machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the
machine, as contamination?

Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after
taking off what I need?

It's more likely that the scrap yard is happy to pay you scrap steel
prices for scrap copper.

I'm probably as clueless about scrap as you are, but it occurs to me that
if you have any really low paid help you may want to investigate taking
the copper out of the motor and selling it separately.


I have a medium paid help help, but he is very busy. The motor is only
1 HP, not worth the time.


Electric motors should be separated out there is a category for just those.

How to properly scrap a machine
 

On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484
wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Seems to be "stuck"

Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a
new machinery seller.

Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong
with it?

Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper?



Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other
electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is
something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this
machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the
machine, as contamination?

Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after
taking off what I need?

Clueless in scrap

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

How to properly scrap a machine
 

Ignoramus20484 on Sun, 04 Dec
2011 21:30:33 -0600 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other
electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is
something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this
machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the
machine, as contamination?

If you leave it on, they will pay you scrap steel prices for an
electrical motor.

Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after
taking off what I need?

Your time, vs the possible return on the scrap value of the motor.

Clueless in scrap

"Strip it for parts" - separate the motor, "scrap as unit", any
wiring, yank and add to the copper wire pile. Computer/electrical
components - like wise.
It might be "worth it" time wise, to just take the big pieces off
and let them have the whole thing "as is. And they can have someone
get the copper bits, themselves.
--
pyotr
Go not to the Net for answers, for it will tell you Yes and no. And
you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the
question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers
does it take to change a lightbulb.

How to properly scrap a machine
 

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484
wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Seems to be "stuck"

Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a
new machinery seller.

Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong
with it?

Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper?


Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged
which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck.
That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned.

Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy
balanced, might make it valuable maybe not.

Best Regards
Tom.
--
http://fija.org/

How to properly scrap a machine
 

On Dec 4, 10:30*pm, Ignoramus20484 ignoramus20...@NOSPAM.
20484.invalid wrote:
I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

*http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.


If you have the room, I would list it on Craigslist and Ebay with an
honest description and also saying that if no one wants the whole
machine you will sell parts off it. You might find someone willing to
pay a bit over scrap . Say a retired person like me that would want
to have a project.

Dan

How to properly scrap a machine
 

I don't think it matters much. I take in a whole car or truck and they
don't worry about whether on not the started and alternator, etc., have been
removed.

Here's a partial list of scrap prices today at the place I go:

Electric Motors



LB



..10



Sealed Unit



LB



..05



Starters/Alternators



LB



..10



Unprepared Iron



Ton



220



Sheet Iron



Ton



175



3' Prepared Iron



Ton



235



3' Foundry Grade Iron



Ton



265



#1 Cast Iron



Ton



270



#2 Cast Iron



Ton



185



Breakable Cast



Ton



125



Carbide



LB



5.00



Steel Turnings



Ton



115



Dirty Motors



Ton



210



Junk Bus



Ton



145



Junk Motor Home/Camper



Will Accept $0



Deduct for Tires



Junk Car Bodies



Ton



175

Sorry about the formating.

Pete Stanaitis
------------------

How to properly scrap a machine
 

On Dec 5, 1:54*am, "azotic" wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message

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On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484
wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

*http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Seems to be "stuck"

Now thats an interesting admission/comment *from both a machinist and a
new machinery seller.

Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong
with it?

Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper?

Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged
which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck.
That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned.

Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy
balanced, might make it valuable maybe not.

Best Regards
Tom.
--http://fija.org/- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ig..many times grinder motors are "special"..as in balanced/special
spindles/shafts/etc.

It may very well be worth keeping.

TMT

How to properly scrap a machine
 

On Dec 5, 12:20*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484

wrote:
I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

*http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Seems to be "stuck"

Now thats an interesting admission/comment *from both a machinist and a
new machinery seller.

Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong
with it?

Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper?



Instead, I want to take off all handles, reversing switch, other
electricals etc and scrap the machine itself. I wonder if there is
something else that I should do to get top dollar per pound on this
machine? Do scrap yards penalize me for, say, leaving the motor on the
machine, as contamination?

Or should I not bother and just drive the machine over there after
taking off what I need?

Clueless in scrap

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Gunner Asch

LOL...an interesting comment from someone who is jealous of Ig being
successful in his ventures while you wallow in Taft, Ca posting
conservative crap on Usenet.

Got those creditors paid off yet Gummer?

If you are actually willing to work, maybe Ig will give you a job
cleaning machines.

TMT

How to properly scrap a machine
 

On 2011-12-05, azotic wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484
wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Seems to be "stuck"

Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a
new machinery seller.

Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong
with it?

Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper?


Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged
which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck.
That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned.

Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy
balanced, might make it valuable maybe not.

Best Regards
Tom.

Azotic, you almost get the prize, your answer was the closest. There
is a hard to find table lock under the table, which was partially
engaged. The machine is fine.

How to properly scrap a machine
 

"Ignoramus12217" wrote in message
...

On 2011-12-05, azotic wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484
wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Seems to be "stuck"

Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a
new machinery seller.

Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong
with it?

Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper?


Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged
which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck.
That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned.

Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy
balanced, might make it valuable maybe not.

Best Regards
Tom.

Azotic, you almost get the prize, your answer was the closest. There
is a hard to find table lock under the table, which was partially
engaged. The machine is fine.

Sounds like its ready for ebay.

Best Regards
Tom.
--
http://fija.org/

How to properly scrap a machine
 

On Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:48:45 -0600, Ignoramus12217
wrote:


On 2011-12-05, azotic wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:30:33 -0600, Ignoramus20484
wrote:

I have a Cincinnati #$2 tool and cutter grinder

http://goo.gl/cktGy

The table seems to be stuck and is moving with difficulty. Since they
are worth (on eBay) a third over their scrap value anyway, I have no
interest in fixing it.

Seems to be "stuck"

Now thats an interesting admission/comment from both a machinist and a
new machinery seller.

Why not simply knock out the gib..and find out what the **** is wrong
with it?

Blink blink...are you going to sell machinery..or be a scrapper?


Well maybe the rapid traverse and the fine feed are both engaged
which would make it seem that the table is hard to move or stuck.
That condition was possible on the #2 i once owned.

Just as a side note i believe the motor on a #2 is specialy
balanced, might make it valuable maybe not.

Best Regards
Tom.

Azotic, you almost get the prize, your answer was the closest. There
is a hard to find table lock under the table, which was partially
engaged. The machine is fine.
\
And before we jumped on you and forced you into checking.. you were
going to scrap it.

Sure you are right for the business?

Grin

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch