I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:14:11 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i

You are supposed to use a water based coolant liquid such as Cool Mist
rather than oil.

Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:09:23 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

On 2010-09-14, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:14:11 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i

You are supposed to use a water based coolant liquid such as Cool Mist
rather than oil.

Do you know which Kool Mist? 78?

i

Just about ANY water based Kool Mist/generic equiv. will work. Using
oil....brrrrrr! thats nasty for misting...cringe.....man..just thinking
about it...I can taste the oil.....GACK!!!!

Btw...Ive used straight water with some decent sucess. Doesnt have the
lubrication properties that KoolMist/Equiv does..which you really should
have..but..shrug ..it does work though not Great.

Set the mister to JUST show a bit of moisture on a bit of cardboard at
work piece distance and leave it be.

If you have filled your mister with oil..you are going to have to clean
it out. Dawn dishwashing detergent at the very least.

Gunner


I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

Ignoramus5013 wrote:

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Trust me, the stuff inside gets out. If only I could talk them into a Torit external
system instead of crapy Filtermists.

Wes

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:14:11 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i


Boom?

H.

On 2010-09-14, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus5013 wrote:

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Trust me, the stuff inside gets out. If only I could talk them into
a Torit external system instead of crapy Filtermists.

So, it sounds like you also do not like this mist stuff?

i

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:14:11 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i
http://www.fogbuster.com/

http://www.machinistblog.com/zero-fog-mister/

On 2010-09-15, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:14:11 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i
http://www.fogbuster.com/

Have you used it? Does it work as advertised?

My other issue with this is that it seems to be harder to lubricate a
endmill or drill that is deep in the work. With flood, well, I just
"flood" the area and the liquid gets to where I want it to go (as well
as everywhere else, but it drains back to the base eventually).

This fogbuster or misters, well, they seem to act on a direct line
from the mister. So it is hard to lubricate something where the
endmill is behind something or is just deep down in the work. Is that
correct or am I wrong?

i

http://www.machinistblog.com/zero-fog-mister/

On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:46:26 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

On 2010-09-15, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:14:11 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i
http://www.fogbuster.com/

Have you used it? Does it work as advertised?

My other issue with this is that it seems to be harder to lubricate a
endmill or drill that is deep in the work. With flood, well, I just
"flood" the area and the liquid gets to where I want it to go (as well
as everywhere else, but it drains back to the base eventually).

This fogbuster or misters, well, they seem to act on a direct line
from the mister. So it is hard to lubricate something where the
endmill is behind something or is just deep down in the work. Is that
correct or am I wrong?

i

http://www.machinistblog.com/zero-fog-mister/

I don't use flood on my knee mill. I tried it and always had it
leaking out on the floor someplace. What a mess. (i do use flood on
the CHNC and Mazak where you've got a complete machine enclosure.)

So i built my own fogbuster and love it. for the issue you're
referring to, turn the unit up to keep the pocket full. same idea when
drilling a deep hole. IMHO, this mister gives 90% of flood benefit
with 10% of the mess.

Karl

On 2010-09-15, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:46:26 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

On 2010-09-15, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:14:11 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i
http://www.fogbuster.com/

Have you used it? Does it work as advertised?

My other issue with this is that it seems to be harder to lubricate a
endmill or drill that is deep in the work. With flood, well, I just
"flood" the area and the liquid gets to where I want it to go (as well
as everywhere else, but it drains back to the base eventually).

This fogbuster or misters, well, they seem to act on a direct line
from the mister. So it is hard to lubricate something where the
endmill is behind something or is just deep down in the work. Is that
correct or am I wrong?

i

http://www.machinistblog.com/zero-fog-mister/

I don't use flood on my knee mill. I tried it and always had it
leaking out on the floor someplace. What a mess. (i do use flood on
the CHNC and Mazak where you've got a complete machine enclosure.)

Zero leaking on the floor.

1) I have a guard
2) I have a plastic drani tub above the knee.

So i built my own fogbuster and love it. for the issue you're
referring to, turn the unit up to keep the pocket full. same idea when
drilling a deep hole. IMHO, this mister gives 90% of flood benefit
with 10% of the mess.

Looks interesting.

i

"Ignoramus5013" wrote in message
...
On 2010-09-14, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus5013 wrote:

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Trust me, the stuff inside gets out. If only I could talk them into
a Torit external system instead of crapy Filtermists.

So, it sounds like you also do not like this mist stuff?

i

I used to use a Spray Mist unit. They work great, but everything in the
shop gets coated, even with the prescribed coolant, and the spindle in the
mill gets so sticky it loses all of its feel. In order to return the quill
to functionality, I'd have to extend it full length, spray with a chemical
cleaner (such as 409, only industrial), run the quill in and out numerous
times, then wipe it down and re-oil. They are truly a PITA to use, in
spite of how nicely they work for cooling and lubricating.

Harold

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:17:01 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

On 2010-09-15, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:46:26 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

On 2010-09-15, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 14:14:11 -0500, Ignoramus5013
wrote:

I finally hooked up the Accu-Lube LS-3V to shop air, properly through
a regulator and filter, etc.

It works, as in, it spews a stream of air with a super fine oil mist
added to the air.

Frankly, I do not imagine how I could possibly use it -- my whole
garage will be covered with oil that settles down and I cannot
possibly imagine that this stuff would do any good to my lungs.

I think that I understand the appeal of it in manufacturing, with
fully closed off VMCs and possibly air cleaners attached to them, but
it seems foolish to use on an open machine.

Comments?

i
http://www.fogbuster.com/

Have you used it? Does it work as advertised?

My other issue with this is that it seems to be harder to lubricate a
endmill or drill that is deep in the work. With flood, well, I just
"flood" the area and the liquid gets to where I want it to go (as well
as everywhere else, but it drains back to the base eventually).

This fogbuster or misters, well, they seem to act on a direct line
from the mister. So it is hard to lubricate something where the
endmill is behind something or is just deep down in the work. Is that
correct or am I wrong?

i

http://www.machinistblog.com/zero-fog-mister/

I don't use flood on my knee mill. I tried it and always had it
leaking out on the floor someplace. What a mess. (i do use flood on
the CHNC and Mazak where you've got a complete machine enclosure.)

Zero leaking on the floor.

1) I have a guard
2) I have a plastic drani tub above the knee.
....

The difference in our hobby ventures is part size. I suppose I could
set up your guard system for small stuff, maybe 10% of my projects.
For the difference between flood and fogless mister its just not worth
the trouble.

Now, when i get the Matsuura running, I'll use flood. Most of my parts
will fit on its 96" long bed.

Karl



Karl

Ignoramus5013 wrote:

Trust me, the stuff inside gets out. If only I could talk them into
a Torit external system instead of crapy Filtermists.

So, it sounds like you also do not like this mist stuff?

That is correct. Milling aluminum, I'll direct an air blast at the cutting zone and deal
with the mess. The rest, I do dry since I run manual open machines. I also have a bunch
of hard wood stored in my gara^H^H^H^Hshop.

Harold pretty much nailed the bad points.

Wes

Wes wrote in
:

Ignoramus5013 wrote:

Trust me, the stuff inside gets out. If only I could talk them into
a Torit external system instead of crapy Filtermists.

So, it sounds like you also do not like this mist stuff?

That is correct. Milling aluminum, I'll direct an air blast at the
cutting zone and deal with the mess. The rest, I do dry since I run
manual open machines. I also have a bunch of hard wood stored in my
gara^H^H^H^Hshop.

Harold pretty much nailed the bad points.

I have a Micro-Drop rig that is waiting for a decent compressor. Does
anyone have any experience (good or bad) with one of these? I picked it
up cheap years ago after hearing similar complaints about the mess of
mist systems. I think the Micro-Drop is supposed to sort of spit at
things in small enough droplets to avoid a big mess, but big enough that
they don't end up drifting all over the shop & into your lungs.

Doug White

Doug White fired this volley in
:

I think the Micro-Drop is supposed to sort of spit at
things in small enough droplets to avoid a big mess, but big enough that
they don't end up drifting all over the shop & into your lungs.


So-called "CDA" or "controlled droplet applicators" are common in the
agricultural market for applying herbicides, etc., where wind drift would
be a problem. I see no practical reason why a CDA system would not work
for minimal-flow coolant application.

LLoyd