"Ed Huntress" wrote:

However, I found Steinbrenner, and Reggie, and Billy so obnoxious that I
wouldn't watch them from 1977 to 1995. It got better after Torre came in. I
still hate Steinbrenner.


How gives a chit about baseball. Lance Armstrong has crashed and burned. This Tour de
France he learns humble. I really hoped he could pull one more win out but that hope is
dead. I'm hoping he supports the new team leader and ends his career the right way. I
think he will go out with his head up and supporting Team Radio Shack. He has grown a lot
along the way.

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

However, I found Steinbrenner, and Reggie, and Billy so obnoxious that I
wouldn't watch them from 1977 to 1995. It got better after Torre came in.
I
still hate Steinbrenner.


How gives a chit about baseball. Lance Armstrong has crashed and burned.
This Tour de
France he learns humble. I really hoped he could pull one more win out
but that hope is
dead. I'm hoping he supports the new team leader and ends his career the
right way. I
think he will go out with his head up and supporting Team Radio Shack. He
has grown a lot
along the way.

Wes

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

However, I found Steinbrenner, and Reggie, and Billy so obnoxious that I
wouldn't watch them from 1977 to 1995. It got better after Torre came in.
I
still hate Steinbrenner.


How gives a chit about baseball. Lance Armstrong has crashed and burned.
This Tour de
France he learns humble. I really hoped he could pull one more win out
but that hope is
dead. I'm hoping he supports the new team leader and ends his career the
right way. I
think he will go out with his head up and supporting Team Radio Shack.
He has grown a lot
along the way.

Wes

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36 cat,
we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our familiarity, but
the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that matter neither does
NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36 cat,
we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our familiarity, but
the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that matter neither does
NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields



Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php

--

Richard Lamb

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

It's one of those sports that I always loved doing, but not watching. And
that includes Newport in '77.

--
Ed Huntress

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php

--

Richard Lamb


Damn Richard. I'm sorry I looked up the sailinganarchy website. Here we
are in the desert where if we get to see water it is in our drinking glass.
We do miss the sailing that we did out in the Marshall Islands. Warm clear
water, constant trade winds, long 50mile protected water lagoon...22kts
under sail on the McGregor with 4 people standing around with a beer in
their hands. Yeah I don't miss the passages we took, no autopilot in a hot
rod cat means a lot of work for two people, but the day/week-end sailing was
a blast.

Stu Fields

Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress
Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields
Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

It's one of those sports that I always loved doing, but not watching. And
that includes Newport in '77.


Well, then DO it...


Cape Dory 25, 1974, Round Pond Harbor, Maine, $5,500, Price reduced 7/8/10 to $5,000

http://www.sailingtexas.com/scapedory25104.html

--

Richard Lamb

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing.
g

--
Ed Huntress
Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields
Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

It's one of those sports that I always loved doing, but not watching. And
that includes Newport in '77.


Well, then DO it...


Cape Dory 25, 1974, Round Pond Harbor, Maine, $5,500, Price reduced 7/8/10
to $5,000

http://www.sailingtexas.com/scapedory25104.html

That's about what I paid for my Typhoon, new. g Of course, that included
the Seagull.

I'm not buying boats right now, Richard. I told you why I quit sailing,
right? Full-body vitiligo. I hate sailing at night, or covered up like a
mummy. That's why I fish at 5:00 AM and quit at 9:00 AM.

--
Ed Huntresss

Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing.
g

--
Ed Huntress
Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields
Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...
It's one of those sports that I always loved doing, but not watching. And
that includes Newport in '77.

Well, then DO it...


Cape Dory 25, 1974, Round Pond Harbor, Maine, $5,500, Price reduced 7/8/10
to $5,000

http://www.sailingtexas.com/scapedory25104.html

That's about what I paid for my Typhoon, new. g Of course, that included
the Seagull.

I'm not buying boats right now, Richard. I told you why I quit sailing,
right? Full-body vitiligo. I hate sailing at night, or covered up like a
mummy. That's why I fish at 5:00 AM and quit at 9:00 AM.


No, I don't recall THAT reason, but ok, yeah, makes sense...

But I love to sail at night...
Right now we are hitting 107 or so during the day.
So no worries about frostbite!




--

Richard Lamb

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing.
g

--
Ed Huntress
Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor
36 cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For
that matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields
Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...
It's one of those sports that I always loved doing, but not watching.
And that includes Newport in '77.

Well, then DO it...


Cape Dory 25, 1974, Round Pond Harbor, Maine, $5,500, Price reduced
7/8/10 to $5,000

http://www.sailingtexas.com/scapedory25104.html

That's about what I paid for my Typhoon, new. g Of course, that
included the Seagull.

I'm not buying boats right now, Richard. I told you why I quit sailing,
right? Full-body vitiligo. I hate sailing at night, or covered up like a
mummy. That's why I fish at 5:00 AM and quit at 9:00 AM.


No, I don't recall THAT reason, but ok, yeah, makes sense...

But I love to sail at night...
Right now we are hitting 107 or so during the day.
So no worries about frostbite!




--

Richard Lamb

Dang Richard now you are making it worse. Wine & Cheese parties on the deck
of the McGregor at night in the lagoon were beyond belief. I was more
intoxicated by the night sailing than I was by the wine... We found we
could actually put up with federal government BS for a day after a night
sail.

Stu

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:30:30 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

However, I found Steinbrenner, and Reggie, and Billy so obnoxious that I
wouldn't watch them from 1977 to 1995. It got better after Torre came in.
I
still hate Steinbrenner.


How gives a chit about baseball. Lance Armstrong has crashed and burned.
This Tour de
France he learns humble. I really hoped he could pull one more win out
but that hope is
dead. I'm hoping he supports the new team leader and ends his career the
right way. I
think he will go out with his head up and supporting Team Radio Shack.
He has grown a lot
along the way.

Wes

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36 cat,
we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our familiarity, but
the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that matter neither does
NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Indeed. Stu called it.

And for sailors..getting out and actually DOING it, or watching
something one has actually done a fair bit of..is superior head and
hands above watching based on Fandom from ones sofa.

Gunner, Sierra Sailing Association


One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:32:02 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"cavelamb" wrote in message
om...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php

--

Richard Lamb


Damn Richard. I'm sorry I looked up the sailinganarchy website. Here we
are in the desert where if we get to see water it is in our drinking glass.
We do miss the sailing that we did out in the Marshall Islands. Warm clear
water, constant trade winds, long 50mile protected water lagoon...22kts
under sail on the McGregor with 4 people standing around with a beer in
their hands. Yeah I don't miss the passages we took, no autopilot in a hot
rod cat means a lot of work for two people, but the day/week-end sailing was
a blast.

Stu Fields


There is a fair amount of sailing up at Lake Isabella, which is not all
that far...that far...from you

And Id strongly suggest starting out somewhat less potent than a cat for
a few trips...winds up there tend to be a bit...strong when the red
lights come on....and a bit...iffy in direction.

Also..isnt there a boating area in your area? I cant remember. Dam or
some such?

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:39:48 -0500, cavelamb
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g

--
Ed Huntress
Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields
Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

It's one of those sports that I always loved doing, but not watching. And
that includes Newport in '77.


Well, then DO it...


Cape Dory 25, 1974, Round Pond Harbor, Maine, $5,500, Price reduced 7/8/10 to $5,000

http://www.sailingtexas.com/scapedory25104.html

For inland sailing in California (and there is a surprising amount of
it)...swing keels are pretty much a requirement and 25' is about the max
size..

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Stu Fields wrote:

Dang Richard now you are making it worse. Wine & Cheese parties on the deck
of the McGregor at night in the lagoon were beyond belief. I was more
intoxicated by the night sailing than I was by the wine... We found we
could actually put up with federal government BS for a day after a night
sail.

Stu



Juxtaposition

It's late Friday night, about 2 AM. We have a light southwest breeze and the
water is glassy smooth.

The moon has already set tonight and the few lights around the lake are barely
visible. It's easy to imagine oak planks, canvas sails, and the smell of tar
and salt as we glide silently across the water.

I'm thinking this is what it must have been like 200 years past, a wooden ship
sailing by the stars alone.

The stars. Looking up and searching the familiar constellations I notice
a tiny speck of white light moving steadily through the heavens.

The International Space Station is sailing across the sky in the Twenty First
Century.

And I'm down here sailing across the 19th.

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:
"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing.
g

--
Ed Huntress
Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor
36 cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For
that matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields
Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...
It's one of those sports that I always loved doing, but not watching.
And that includes Newport in '77.

Well, then DO it...


Cape Dory 25, 1974, Round Pond Harbor, Maine, $5,500, Price reduced
7/8/10 to $5,000

http://www.sailingtexas.com/scapedory25104.html

That's about what I paid for my Typhoon, new. g Of course, that
included the Seagull.

I'm not buying boats right now, Richard. I told you why I quit sailing,
right? Full-body vitiligo. I hate sailing at night, or covered up like a
mummy. That's why I fish at 5:00 AM and quit at 9:00 AM.


No, I don't recall THAT reason, but ok, yeah, makes sense...

I may not have mentioned all of the ailments. That one doesn't make it
impossible, but it takes a lot of fun out of it. Add up a variety of other
reasons, and owning a sailboat is low on my list these days.


But I love to sail at night...
Right now we are hitting 107 or so during the day.
So no worries about frostbite!

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:32:02 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"cavelamb" wrote in message
news:hMWdnRKn3cpykqLRnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@earthlink. com...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing.
g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php

--

Richard Lamb


Damn Richard. I'm sorry I looked up the sailinganarchy website. Here we
are in the desert where if we get to see water it is in our drinking
glass.
We do miss the sailing that we did out in the Marshall Islands. Warm
clear
water, constant trade winds, long 50mile protected water lagoon...22kts
under sail on the McGregor with 4 people standing around with a beer in
their hands. Yeah I don't miss the passages we took, no autopilot in a
hot
rod cat means a lot of work for two people, but the day/week-end sailing
was
a blast.

Stu Fields


There is a fair amount of sailing up at Lake Isabella, which is not all
that far...that far...from you

And Id strongly suggest starting out somewhat less potent than a cat for
a few trips...winds up there tend to be a bit...strong when the red
lights come on....and a bit...iffy in direction.

Also..isnt there a boating area in your area? I cant remember. Dam or
some such?

Gunner
Yeah Gunner we are close to China Lake. However your dagger boards need
skate wheels on the bottom for China Lake. It is normally drier that
popcorn outgassers.
We've heard that sailing on Isabella can tie your tell tales in knots. It
would indeed be a learning experience. Sailing in the Marshalls you could
go below, look at the compass and set your sails without ever looking at the
wind arrow.
We have sailed once in a mono hull on Isabella. Dang thing kept heeling
over, spilling a bunch of good wind out of her sails and never did come up
to planning speed. Oh well we have our memories of jumping off a wave,
burying the port hull in the back of a wave and having my wife say: "Are
you going to keep that up?" Pointing to the port hull. Dang know it all.

"cavelamb" wrote in message
m...
Stu Fields wrote:

Dang Richard now you are making it worse. Wine & Cheese parties on the
deck of the McGregor at night in the lagoon were beyond belief. I was
more intoxicated by the night sailing than I was by the wine... We found
we could actually put up with federal government BS for a day after a
night sail.

Stu

Juxtaposition

It's late Friday night, about 2 AM. We have a light southwest breeze and
the water is glassy smooth.

The moon has already set tonight and the few lights around the lake are
barely visible. It's easy to imagine oak planks, canvas sails, and the
smell of tar and salt as we glide silently across the water.

I'm thinking this is what it must have been like 200 years past, a wooden
ship sailing by the stars alone.

The stars. Looking up and searching the familiar constellations I notice
a tiny speck of white light moving steadily through the heavens.

The International Space Station is sailing across the sky in the Twenty
First Century.

And I'm down here sailing across the 19th.

Yeah Kwajalein Lagoon at night or making passage around another atoll at
night. There are NO lights except the stars. What a humbling experience to
look up and register your size and importance.
Christ why did we ever come back to Obamaville.

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:55:37 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:32:02 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"cavelamb" wrote in message
news:hMWdnRKn3cpykqLRnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@earthlink .com...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing.
g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor 36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php

--

Richard Lamb


Damn Richard. I'm sorry I looked up the sailinganarchy website. Here we
are in the desert where if we get to see water it is in our drinking
glass.
We do miss the sailing that we did out in the Marshall Islands. Warm
clear
water, constant trade winds, long 50mile protected water lagoon...22kts
under sail on the McGregor with 4 people standing around with a beer in
their hands. Yeah I don't miss the passages we took, no autopilot in a
hot
rod cat means a lot of work for two people, but the day/week-end sailing
was
a blast.

Stu Fields


There is a fair amount of sailing up at Lake Isabella, which is not all
that far...that far...from you

And Id strongly suggest starting out somewhat less potent than a cat for
a few trips...winds up there tend to be a bit...strong when the red
lights come on....and a bit...iffy in direction.

Also..isnt there a boating area in your area? I cant remember. Dam or
some such?

Gunner
Yeah Gunner we are close to China Lake. However your dagger boards need
skate wheels on the bottom for China Lake. It is normally drier that
popcorn outgassers.

Ive always wanted to build a salt bed sailer. Much like an iceboat but
with wheels instead. I live too far away though to make it worth while.

We've heard that sailing on Isabella can tie your tell tales in knots. It
would indeed be a learning experience. Sailing in the Marshalls you could
go below, look at the compass and set your sails without ever looking at the
wind arrow.

Small boat sailing on inland lakes is far different than ocean sailing.
You actually have to sail the boat from moment to moment. Ive sailed
over off the coast and frankly..Id hold any lake sailer up against most
of the guys racing off Pismo, or Moro Bay etc etc. Lake sailers have to
KNOW their boat and how to read the wind as it constantly changed.

I took the Thistle over to Moro Bay with a couple of friends..and we
were kicking the racers asses big time with it. Then I started working
in LA and sold it. 1308 is still winning races from what I can find.
G

We have sailed once in a mono hull on Isabella. Dang thing kept heeling
over, spilling a bunch of good wind out of her sails and never did come up
to planning speed. Oh well we have our memories of jumping off a wave,
burying the port hull in the back of a wave and having my wife say: "Are
you going to keep that up?" Pointing to the port hull. Dang know it all.


Lake sailing is far different than blue water sailing. And its
fun/frustrating to learn how to do it.

But I guess from a Blue water guy..it might be a hell of a change.

Gunner


One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:55:37 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:32:02 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"cavelamb" wrote in message
news:hMWdnRKn3cpykqLRnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@earthlin k.com...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing.
g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor
36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For
that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php

--

Richard Lamb


Damn Richard. I'm sorry I looked up the sailinganarchy website. Here
we
are in the desert where if we get to see water it is in our drinking
glass.
We do miss the sailing that we did out in the Marshall Islands. Warm
clear
water, constant trade winds, long 50mile protected water lagoon...22kts
under sail on the McGregor with 4 people standing around with a beer in
their hands. Yeah I don't miss the passages we took, no autopilot in a
hot
rod cat means a lot of work for two people, but the day/week-end sailing
was
a blast.

Stu Fields


There is a fair amount of sailing up at Lake Isabella, which is not all
that far...that far...from you

And Id strongly suggest starting out somewhat less potent than a cat for
a few trips...winds up there tend to be a bit...strong when the red
lights come on....and a bit...iffy in direction.

Also..isnt there a boating area in your area? I cant remember. Dam or
some such?

Gunner
Yeah Gunner we are close to China Lake. However your dagger boards need
skate wheels on the bottom for China Lake. It is normally drier that
popcorn outgassers.

Ive always wanted to build a salt bed sailer. Much like an iceboat but
with wheels instead. I live too far away though to make it worth while.

We've heard that sailing on Isabella can tie your tell tales in knots. It
would indeed be a learning experience. Sailing in the Marshalls you could
go below, look at the compass and set your sails without ever looking at
the
wind arrow.

Small boat sailing on inland lakes is far different than ocean sailing.
You actually have to sail the boat from moment to moment. Ive sailed
over off the coast and frankly..Id hold any lake sailer up against most
of the guys racing off Pismo, or Moro Bay etc etc. Lake sailers have to
KNOW their boat and how to read the wind as it constantly changed.

I took the Thistle over to Moro Bay with a couple of friends..and we
were kicking the racers asses big time with it. Then I started working
in LA and sold it. 1308 is still winning races from what I can find.
G

We have sailed once in a mono hull on Isabella. Dang thing kept heeling
over, spilling a bunch of good wind out of her sails and never did come up
to planning speed. Oh well we have our memories of jumping off a wave,
burying the port hull in the back of a wave and having my wife say: "Are
you going to keep that up?" Pointing to the port hull. Dang know it all.


Lake sailing is far different than blue water sailing. And its
fun/frustrating to learn how to do it.

But I guess from a Blue water guy..it might be a hell of a change.

Gunner

For sure. Our Cal 20 racing as well as the McGregor racing(they handicapped
us 25 min at the start) was all done in a lagoon with wind directions that
only changed as a function of your boat speed. One of the ass kickers was a
lake sailer from Alabama.
Sailing on Isabella would require a new set of skills in reading and
anticipating wind direction and velocity and knowing where to go to get more
wind.

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 06:11:50 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:55:37 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:32:02 -0700, "Stu Fields" wrote:


"cavelamb" wrote in message
news:hMWdnRKn3cpykqLRnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@earthli nk.com...
Stu Fields wrote:

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing.
g

--
Ed Huntress

Yep Ed you've found one. After campaigning a Cal 20 and a McGregor
36
cat, we do like watching the yacht racing. Maybe it is just our
familiarity, but the B and F balls do not get our attention. For
that
matter neither does NASCAR (Oops that may be un-American)

Stu & Kathy Fields

Welcome to my world...

From dinghies to the A Cup.
And a few C cups now and then...

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php

--

Richard Lamb


Damn Richard. I'm sorry I looked up the sailinganarchy website. Here
we
are in the desert where if we get to see water it is in our drinking
glass.
We do miss the sailing that we did out in the Marshall Islands. Warm
clear
water, constant trade winds, long 50mile protected water lagoon...22kts
under sail on the McGregor with 4 people standing around with a beer in
their hands. Yeah I don't miss the passages we took, no autopilot in a
hot
rod cat means a lot of work for two people, but the day/week-end sailing
was
a blast.

Stu Fields


There is a fair amount of sailing up at Lake Isabella, which is not all
that far...that far...from you

And Id strongly suggest starting out somewhat less potent than a cat for
a few trips...winds up there tend to be a bit...strong when the red
lights come on....and a bit...iffy in direction.

Also..isnt there a boating area in your area? I cant remember. Dam or
some such?

Gunner
Yeah Gunner we are close to China Lake. However your dagger boards need
skate wheels on the bottom for China Lake. It is normally drier that
popcorn outgassers.

Ive always wanted to build a salt bed sailer. Much like an iceboat but
with wheels instead. I live too far away though to make it worth while.

We've heard that sailing on Isabella can tie your tell tales in knots. It
would indeed be a learning experience. Sailing in the Marshalls you could
go below, look at the compass and set your sails without ever looking at
the
wind arrow.

Small boat sailing on inland lakes is far different than ocean sailing.
You actually have to sail the boat from moment to moment. Ive sailed
over off the coast and frankly..Id hold any lake sailer up against most
of the guys racing off Pismo, or Moro Bay etc etc. Lake sailers have to
KNOW their boat and how to read the wind as it constantly changed.

I took the Thistle over to Moro Bay with a couple of friends..and we
were kicking the racers asses big time with it. Then I started working
in LA and sold it. 1308 is still winning races from what I can find.
G

We have sailed once in a mono hull on Isabella. Dang thing kept heeling
over, spilling a bunch of good wind out of her sails and never did come up
to planning speed. Oh well we have our memories of jumping off a wave,
burying the port hull in the back of a wave and having my wife say: "Are
you going to keep that up?" Pointing to the port hull. Dang know it all.


Lake sailing is far different than blue water sailing. And its
fun/frustrating to learn how to do it.

But I guess from a Blue water guy..it might be a hell of a change.

Gunner

For sure. Our Cal 20 racing as well as the McGregor racing(they handicapped
us 25 min at the start) was all done in a lagoon with wind directions that
only changed as a function of your boat speed. One of the ass kickers was a
lake sailer from Alabama.
Sailing on Isabella would require a new set of skills in reading and
anticipating wind direction and velocity and knowing where to go to get more
wind.


Ayup..which is why its so much fun and a great learning experience.
I learned more lake sailing than I ever did on big blue water.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

How gives a chit about baseball. Lance Armstrong has crashed and burned.
This Tour de
France he learns humble. I really hoped he could pull one more win out
but that hope is
dead. I'm hoping he supports the new team leader and ends his career the
right way. I
think he will go out with his head up and supporting Team Radio Shack. He
has grown a lot
along the way.

Wes

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g


Surprisingly, there is. Even more surprisingly, it doesn't seem like much interest in
bicycle racing. We are a fairly eclectic group. I'd have thought more interest in bike
racing than yacht racing. Oh well, should we invite that guy from BP to the group?

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

How gives a chit about baseball. Lance Armstrong has crashed and
burned.
This Tour de
France he learns humble. I really hoped he could pull one more win out
but that hope is
dead. I'm hoping he supports the new team leader and ends his career
the
right way. I
think he will go out with his head up and supporting Team Radio Shack.
He
has grown a lot
along the way.

Wes

Jeez, maybe there's someone here who cares more about yacht racing. g


Surprisingly, there is. Even more surprisingly, it doesn't seem like much
interest in
bicycle racing. We are a fairly eclectic group. I'd have thought more
interest in bike
racing than yacht racing. Oh well, should we invite that guy from BP to
the group?

Wes

Sure. I used to like to watch bicycle racing (my dad was a track racer; I
raced road sprints in high school, and commuted to school on a track bike),
but I lost interest in everything but pursuit. Then I lost interest in that
as I lost track of who the racers were.

As for yacht racing, I was much more active in that, in college and through
the '70s, but *never* liked watching it. I enjoyed watching Ted Turner in
the '77 America's Cup, but that was the last of it for me.

I think a lot of our interest in watching sports competition has to do with
whether we're interested in the individual players/competitors.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

I think a lot of our interest in watching sports competition has to do with
whether we're interested in the individual players/competitors.

Lance Armstrong, back during the Tour DuPont days, really got me interested. I was
cycling a lot back then. I remember my first 24 hour challenge the day after OJ went on
his slow speed chase. We were very tired that morning after watching tv most of the night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_DuPont


Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller