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So so day in the shop
I thought today would be a good one. Drove to the big city to get an extension handle for
my paint roller to make painting my ceiling eggshell white a bit easier. Got back home and started off by opening the box with a second 4' two tube light for the room. No power cord or hanging chains. Okay fine. I'll steal a light from out in the garage. Grab one that isn't plugged in. Can't remember why, thought it was because I was saving money on power. Somehow I loose the hanging chains taking it down. 5 minutes of looking finds them. Anyway, I put in a couple of cup hooks. Don's little doodad would have been nice to have. I hang the light, plug it in and I hear noise, clicks, no light. Damn. Change out the T12 48" tubes, no change. Okay, I'll move the other light in the room so I can paint the ceiling easier where it hangs. It will still give me enough light to work. Now I open that can of eggshell white. Why is it turquoise? Someone must have decided not to buy some paint they had tinted and put it back on the shelf. I hope they have a month of bad luck. Don't have a receipt for the paint but I have a feeling Home Depot will do right. If not I'll buy a can and use that receipt the next day to return the turquoise. Wes |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... I thought today would be a good one. Drove to the big city to get an extension handle for my paint roller to make painting my ceiling eggshell white a bit easier. -snip- Don't have a receipt for the paint but I have a feeling Home Depot will do right. If not I'll buy a can and use that receipt the next day to return the turquoise. Wes lol. it's that always the way it goes. bummer. good luck with it all. b.w. |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... I thought today would be a good one. Drove to the big city to get an extension handle for my paint roller to make painting my ceiling eggshell white a bit easier. Got back home and started off by opening the box with a second 4' two tube light for the room. No power cord or hanging chains. Okay fine. I'll steal a light from out in the garage. Grab one that isn't plugged in. Can't remember why, thought it was because I was saving money on power. Somehow I loose the hanging chains taking it down. 5 minutes of looking finds them. Anyway, I put in a couple of cup hooks. Don's little doodad would have been nice to have. I hang the light, plug it in and I hear noise, clicks, no light. Damn. Change out the T12 48" tubes, no change. Okay, I'll move the other light in the room so I can paint the ceiling easier where it hangs. It will still give me enough light to work. Now I open that can of eggshell white. Why is it turquoise? Someone must have decided not to buy some paint they had tinted and put it back on the shelf. I hope they have a month of bad luck. Don't have a receipt for the paint but I have a feeling Home Depot will do right. If not I'll buy a can and use that receipt the next day to return the turquoise. Wes After that, I'd just stay in bed or the closet for a couple of days. It's a sign, I tell ya. Steve |
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I thought today would be a good one. snip the woeful tale Wes I actually had a pretty good one myself . Cast 8 more al ingots for a total of 20 from the two scrap wheels my son gave me . Then used my new DRO to finish milling the rough-out of the QC toolpost I'm making for the lathe .. And then moved on to start the stunt pegs for our Grandson's Christmas bike . And FINALLY figgered out that the reason my compressor kept tossing the belt was because it was too loose ... -- Snag And now dinner's on the grill ... |
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:27:05 -0500, Wes wrote:
Now I open that can of eggshell white. Why is it turquoise? Oh, man! Some days ya can't pee a drop. |
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Snag wrote: Wes wrote: I thought today would be a good one. snip the woeful tale Wes Today was a pretty good day for me... catching up on long-deferred maintenance... I re-jiggered a couple of 8' florescent fixtures to fit in the 3.25" between the ceiling and the roll-up door and got them installed, doubling the light in that area. End of a 3-year project I finished up the new compressed air distribution piping that's been ongoing for a couple of weeks - we found a nice 80-gallon 5HP Sanborn (US Made) compressor on craigslist for $400 (and almost destroyed it in the process of moving it to its permanent location - don't ask). Now the compressor lives outside where a bit of noise won't bother anyone, and we have lots of available air. End of a 1-year project - Whee! And I got around to troubleshooting and re-wiring the Hurco/Wells-Index Frankenmill so the mist coolant system is actually connected to the 'mist' control instead of getting mist when I select flood - turns out the wiring was mis-labeled and it took a bit of poking around to see what was what. Our manual for the machine is a copy of a copy so the wire and terminal designations all look the same - very fuzzy. This has been wired wrong for about 8 years, Woo Hoo! I cleaned the gunk off the top of the DiAcro bender and gave it a fresh protective coat of oil. Now I need to either find some storage space for miscellaneous 'stuff' or throw it away, knowing full well that within a week of tossing it out I will need whatever it is... Here's a question: is there a shop tool to crimp fittings onto air hoses? Either something to use a vise for crimping or a small hydraulic press? I'd like to be able to make some short flexible whips to connect from the rigid piping to various tools instead of the cheesy Harbor Freight $5 spiral flex hoses I found. I don't really trust that stuff with 175 psi, even though they say "200" - yeah, right! Carla An informed voter is a voter whose vote doesn't count any more than the vote of a complete idiot. |
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Carla Fong wrote:
Here's a question: is there a shop tool to crimp fittings onto air hoses? Either something to use a vise for crimping or a small hydraulic press? I'd like to be able to make some short flexible whips to connect from the rigid piping to various tools instead of the cheesy Harbor Freight $5 spiral flex hoses I found. I don't really trust that stuff with 175 psi, even though they say "200" - yeah, right! Try mcmasters, search for double pinch hose clamps. You have to get the right size since they have limited range. Here is a part number so you can see what I'm talking about 6541K37 . The tool for criping them 6541K67 . We had problems with lines attached to our high pressure air coming loose. These solved it. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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I had the midas touch over the weekend. Only it wasn't gold.
Broke four endmills in the CNC mill, on two different parts. Broke the little hold down clamp on an insert holder. The little combination right and left hand bolt broke in two. Took an hour to get the remaining part out. No spares - SURE I've got one someplace. Broke a key off in a lock leaving the rest of the key inside. Took half an hour to pick it out. The water cooler on the TIG sprung a serious leak. The high pressure washer won't build pressure. Karl |
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"Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... I had the midas touch over the weekend. Only it wasn't gold. Broke four endmills in the CNC mill, on two different parts. Broke the little hold down clamp on an insert holder. The little combination right and left hand bolt broke in two. Took an hour to get the remaining part out. No spares - SURE I've got one someplace. Broke a key off in a lock leaving the rest of the key inside. Took half an hour to pick it out. The water cooler on the TIG sprung a serious leak. The high pressure washer won't build pressure. Karl Have you considered taking up a different hobby, like collecting stamps, maybe? g -- Ed Huntress |
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Carla Fong wrote:
(...) knowing full well that within a week of tossing it out I will need whatever it is... To play that game correctly, one must first congratulate oneself on the floorspace and bench space created by tossing useless stuff, every day that those extra square feet are available. Notice how few of us play that game correctly. --Winston -- Congratulations Robert Piccinini and Steven A. Burd, WalMart Publicists of the Year! |
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:36:04 -0800, Carla Fong
wrote: Here's a question: is there a shop tool to crimp fittings onto air hoses? Either something to use a vise for crimping or a small hydraulic press? I'd like to be able to make some short flexible whips to connect from the rigid piping to various tools instead of the cheesy Harbor Freight $5 spiral flex hoses I found. I don't really trust that stuff with 175 psi, even though they say "200" - yeah, right! Look in McMaster for push-on hose and fittings. The barbs are self retaining and don't need an external ferrule. The nicest handling hose I've seen is Parker's number 801, which they call "Push-lock." I don't know what brand of hose McMaster sells, but their fittings are compatible with Parker's. Use soap or other lube when installing the fittings -- they go in hard. The insertion tool is convenient, but not necessary for small hose. -- Ned Simmons |
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On 2009-12-14, Ed Huntress wrote:
leaving the rest of the key inside. Took half an hour to pick it out. The water cooler on the TIG sprung a serious leak. The high pressure washer won't build pressure. Might have been the result of a recent cold spell and freezing of a coil? Me, I did something dumb too. I installed beautiful lighted eye shields on my new (to me) bench grinder. More about the grinder later. The eye shields are about 70 years old and I have never seen any better made eye shields. The glass in one eye shield was foggy, and was made of three layers of glass stuck together. One piece came off and needed a good washing. Two pieces had fogginess between them and were stuck together. I thought something penetrated between them and dried off during the years. I tried to pry them apart and one broke. Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. No matter, I will put 1/4" Lexan in there instead. i |
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Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in
: Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. LLoyd |
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"Carla Fong" wrote in message ... Snag wrote: Wes wrote: I thought today would be a good one. snip the woeful tale Wes Today was a pretty good day for me... catching up on long-deferred maintenance... I re-jiggered a couple of 8' florescent fixtures to fit in the 3.25" between the ceiling and the roll-up door and got them installed, doubling the light in that area. End of a 3-year project I finished up the new compressed air distribution piping that's been ongoing for a couple of weeks - we found a nice 80-gallon 5HP Sanborn (US Made) compressor on craigslist for $400 (and almost destroyed it in the process of moving it to its permanent location - don't ask). Now the compressor lives outside where a bit of noise won't bother anyone, and we have lots of available air. End of a 1-year project - Whee! And I got around to troubleshooting and re-wiring the Hurco/Wells-Index Frankenmill so the mist coolant system is actually connected to the 'mist' control instead of getting mist when I select flood - turns out the wiring was mis-labeled and it took a bit of poking around to see what was what. Our manual for the machine is a copy of a copy so the wire and terminal designations all look the same - very fuzzy. This has been wired wrong for about 8 years, Woo Hoo! I cleaned the gunk off the top of the DiAcro bender and gave it a fresh protective coat of oil. Now I need to either find some storage space for miscellaneous 'stuff' or throw it away, knowing full well that within a week of tossing it out I will need whatever it is... Here's a question: is there a shop tool to crimp fittings onto air hoses? Either something to use a vise for crimping or a small hydraulic press? I'd like to be able to make some short flexible whips to connect from the rigid piping to various tools instead of the cheesy Harbor Freight $5 spiral flex hoses I found. I don't really trust that stuff with 175 psi, even though they say "200" - yeah, right! Carla Welding shops make a crimper, and you can get a kit with lots of crimps. I don't know the working pressure, you'd have to ask. It looks like a tuning fork with little square blocks on the end. You position it, and one strike from a hammer sets the crimp, you can't over do it. I like to get hoses done professionally if I really need to depend on them, or where failure could cause spew or damage or injury. They may have a crimper that would fit your needs used, or at least get a good one from the gitgo that you can trust. Don't you love those five minute projects that it takes five years to get aroundtuit? Steve |
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"Winston" wrote in message ... Carla Fong wrote: (...) knowing full well that within a week of tossing it out I will need whatever it is... You, too? And even if it has sat there ten years. Steve |
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Don Foreman wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:27:05 -0500, Wes wrote: Now I open that can of eggshell white. Why is it turquoise? Oh, man! Some days ya can't pee a drop. Some days you pee blood. -- Offworld checks no longer accepted! |
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On 2009-12-14, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in : Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. Yes, I believe that it is the old style safety glass. The new windshield glass is simply tempered, not two layered. As far as what I know, they stopped using that glass years ago in cars. i |
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Ignoramus12283 wrote: On 2009-12-14, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in : Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. Yes, I believe that it is the old style safety glass. The new windshield glass is simply tempered, not two layered. As far as what I know, they stopped using that glass years ago in cars. i I'm pretty sure the front windshield is still laminated. The side and rear glass is tempered. |
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:12:07 -0600, Ignoramus12283
wrote: On 2009-12-14, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in : Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. Yes, I believe that it is the old style safety glass. The new windshield glass is simply tempered, not two layered. As far as what I know, they stopped using that glass years ago in cars. i It's very much used for windscreens and bullet proof glass. Now, why do you suppose it might have been used for a grinder eye guard? :-) Mark Rand RTFM |
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On 2009-12-14, Mark Rand wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:12:07 -0600, Ignoramus12283 wrote: On 2009-12-14, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in : Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. Yes, I believe that it is the old style safety glass. The new windshield glass is simply tempered, not two layered. As far as what I know, they stopped using that glass years ago in cars. i It's very much used for windscreens and bullet proof glass. Now, why do you suppose it might have been used for a grinder eye guard? Yep, I was wrong. i |
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:12:07 -0600, Ignoramus12283
wrote: On 2009-12-14, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in : Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. Yes, I believe that it is the old style safety glass. The new windshield glass is simply tempered, not two layered. As far as what I know, they stopped using that glass years ago in cars. i They did stop using Laminated Safety glass on car side and rear windows, they are all Tempered now. But car windshields are still Laminated Safety, because you want to stop the rock, not let the windshield crrumble and let it through. And it's still readily available as flat plate glass for older trucks and buses, and the odd sizes on motorhomes. They don't try to stock factory-cut glass for one-offs like a 1970 Flxible or a 1964 Crown Coach, your local glass company orders a full sheet of Laminated, makes a template, and cuts it out to order. Sand the edges, cut a new length of grommet, and stick it in the hole. -- Bruce -- |
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:27:05 -0500, Wes wrote:
Now I open that can of eggshell white. Why is it turquoise? Someone must have decided not to buy some paint they had tinted and put it back on the shelf. I hope they have a month of bad luck. Don't have a receipt for the paint but I have a feeling Home Depot will do right. If not I'll buy a can and use that receipt the next day to return the turquoise. Read the label carefully before you go back and get shown up by a pimply teenager in the Paint Department - there's a new Feature on the market where they put the turquise tint in the paint on purpose, then it evaporates as the paint dries. So you can see at a glance what has and hasn't been covered with that coat, and get it even - then the paint dries and the purple goes away and leaves you with White. If you are covering another color or a brilliant white prime coat it makes it easier, and if you want to apply another coat that's when the tint would really make it easier by showing the missed spots. -- Bruce -- |
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:10:42 -0600, Ignoramus12283
wrote: On 2009-12-14, Mark Rand wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:12:07 -0600, Ignoramus12283 wrote: On 2009-12-14, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in : Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. Yes, I believe that it is the old style safety glass. The new windshield glass is simply tempered, not two layered. As far as what I know, they stopped using that glass years ago in cars. i It's very much used for windscreens and bullet proof glass. Now, why do you suppose it might have been used for a grinder eye guard? Yep, I was wrong. i It's possible that it'd be better to get a new one made up out of laminated glass rather then polycarbonate. Might last longer before getting scratched up. I must admit that my bench grinder was made before people started getting grit in their eyes!! ;-) Mark Rand RTFM |
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On 2009-12-14, Mark Rand wrote:
On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:10:42 -0600, Ignoramus12283 wrote: On 2009-12-14, Mark Rand wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:12:07 -0600, Ignoramus12283 wrote: On 2009-12-14, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in : Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. Yes, I believe that it is the old style safety glass. The new windshield glass is simply tempered, not two layered. As far as what I know, they stopped using that glass years ago in cars. i It's very much used for windscreens and bullet proof glass. Now, why do you suppose it might have been used for a grinder eye guard? Yep, I was wrong. i It's possible that it'd be better to get a new one made up out of laminated glass rather then polycarbonate. Might last longer before getting scratched up. Maybe. The old was too foggy anyway, to be usable. 1/4 inch (6mm) polycarbonate should also serve me well. i I must admit that my bench grinder was made before people started getting grit in their eyes!! ;-) Mark Rand RTFM |
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Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:27:05 -0500, Wes wrote: Now I open that can of eggshell white. Why is it turquoise? Someone must have decided not to buy some paint they had tinted and put it back on the shelf. I hope they have a month of bad luck. Don't have a receipt for the paint but I have a feeling Home Depot will do right. If not I'll buy a can and use that receipt the next day to return the turquoise. Read the label carefully before you go back and get shown up by a pimply teenager in the Paint Department - there's a new Feature on the market where they put the turquise tint in the paint on purpose, then it evaporates as the paint dries. So you can see at a glance what has and hasn't been covered with that coat, and get it even - then the paint dries and the purple goes away and leaves you with White. The color on my stir stick never reverted to white nor did a bit that got on the can rim when I opened it. If you are covering another color or a brilliant white prime coat it makes it easier, and if you want to apply another coat that's when the tint would really make it easier by showing the missed spots. That would be a neat feature but this wasn't the case. After more than a bit of resistance they exchanged the paint for another can of the same labeled product. I had them open it in the store and it was bright white. I got the feeling they thought I was trying to scam them. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Don Foreman wrote:
Oh, man! Some days ya can't pee a drop. Lasix cured that Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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"Ignoramus12283" wrote in message ... On 2009-12-14, Mark Rand wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:10:42 -0600, Ignoramus12283 wrote: On 2009-12-14, Mark Rand wrote: On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 11:12:07 -0600, Ignoramus12283 wrote: On 2009-12-14, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Ignoramus12283 fired this volley in : Then I had a DUH moment and saw that they had a plastic film between them to make them shatterproof. It's called "laminated safety glass", Ig. It's the stuff they use in auto windshields. Two sheets of glass with (originally) collodion filling between... now an acrylic polymer. Yes, I believe that it is the old style safety glass. The new windshield glass is simply tempered, not two layered. As far as what I know, they stopped using that glass years ago in cars. i It's very much used for windscreens and bullet proof glass. Now, why do you suppose it might have been used for a grinder eye guard? Yep, I was wrong. i It's possible that it'd be better to get a new one made up out of laminated glass rather then polycarbonate. Might last longer before getting scratched up. Maybe. The old was too foggy anyway, to be usable. 1/4 inch (6mm) polycarbonate should also serve me well. i 1/4" laminated safety glass is probably in stock at any real glass shop. The building code around here lists it as one of the three acceptable types of safety glass for use in doors and windows within 24" of the ground. I put a sheet of it in my storefront door after drunk fell through the 1/4" plate glass that had survived the last 50 years. But for a grinder shield, I think I would just use the lexan. Paul K. Dickman |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... I thought today would be a good one. Drove to the big city to get an extension handle for my paint roller to make painting my ceiling eggshell white a bit easier. Got back home and started off by opening the box with a second 4' two tube light for the room. No power cord or hanging chains. -snip- Don't have a receipt for the paint but I have a feeling Home Depot will do right. If not I'll buy a can and use that receipt the next day to return the turquoise. Wes i was just out in the shop, futzing around, little things going wrong, stuff falling over while i was trying to fit it, etc. frustrating. made me think what a bad day at nasa must be. thought of this photo. gives you an appreciation of the coordinated efforts of thousands of people for a common objective (nasa in general, not this photo in particular). whew! how many *little* things that could go wrong to make a REALLY bad day there. http://spaceflightnow.com/delta/d338/090201preview.html b.w. |
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On 2009-12-15, Paul K. Dickman wrote:
1/4" laminated safety glass is probably in stock at any real glass shop. The building code around here lists it as one of the three acceptable types of safety glass for use in doors and windows within 24" of the ground. I put a sheet of it in my storefront door after drunk fell through the 1/4" plate glass that had survived the last 50 years. But for a grinder shield, I think I would just use the lexan. Lexan is not very expensive and is easy to cut. I can get a 24x24 sheet of Lexan for $30. After cutting out two 7x7 squares, I will still have 80% remaining for other future uses. i |
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Ignoramus12283 wrote:
On 2009-12-15, Paul K. Dickman wrote: 1/4" laminated safety glass is probably in stock at any real glass shop. The building code around here lists it as one of the three acceptable types of safety glass for use in doors and windows within 24" of the ground. I put a sheet of it in my storefront door after drunk fell through the 1/4" plate glass that had survived the last 50 years. But for a grinder shield, I think I would just use the lexan. Lexan is not very expensive and is easy to cut. I can get a 24x24 sheet of Lexan for $30. After cutting out two 7x7 squares, I will still have 80% remaining for other future uses. i It also scratches and crazes pretty easily... For what it's worth. |
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So so day in the shop
On 2009-12-15, cavelamb wrote:
Ignoramus12283 wrote: On 2009-12-15, Paul K. Dickman wrote: 1/4" laminated safety glass is probably in stock at any real glass shop. The building code around here lists it as one of the three acceptable types of safety glass for use in doors and windows within 24" of the ground. I put a sheet of it in my storefront door after drunk fell through the 1/4" plate glass that had survived the last 50 years. But for a grinder shield, I think I would just use the lexan. Lexan is not very expensive and is easy to cut. I can get a 24x24 sheet of Lexan for $30. After cutting out two 7x7 squares, I will still have 80% remaining for other future uses. i It also scratches and crazes pretty easily... For what it's worth. For my hobby use, it will probably last for a while. i |
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