Sue wrote:
On Wed, 13 May 2009 21:04:38 -0400, "ATP*"
wrote:

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
In article , "ATP*"
wrote:
Yet if you are born on a military base in Europe to U.S. parents you have
to
be "naturalized". At least that was the case in the '50's.
Cite, please.
I don't have a cite, I was born on an Air Force base, both parents citizens,
and I have naturalization papers. It may just be a process of verifying a
foreign birth to US citizens. I'm not challenging you, just curious.

The current forms for this situation are the:
Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a Citizen of the USA - FS 240
Certification of Birth Abroad - FS 545

I can't say what was going on in the 50s.
Sue


Apparently Mr. Obama can't either.
I think if I were an intelligent white woman with a son of mixed race
and multicultural background, I'd make sure that kid was documented as a
U.S. citizen.

On May 14, 5:03*pm, RB wrote:

Apparently Mr. Obama can't either.
I think if I were an intelligent white woman with a son of mixed race
and multicultural background, I'd make sure that kid was documented as a
U.S. citizen.

And you were born where? Did your parents get you naturalized or
otherwise documented? Obama was born in Hawaii, which is every bit as
much a part of the United States as is Kansas.

"pmv" wrote in message
...
On May 14, 5:03 pm, RB wrote:

Apparently Mr. Obama can't either.
I think if I were an intelligent white woman with a son of mixed race
and multicultural background, I'd make sure that kid was documented as a
U.S. citizen.

And you were born where? Did your parents get you naturalized or
otherwise documented? Obama was born in Hawaii, which is every bit as
much a part of the United States as is Kansas.

He was born in Kenya.

pmv wrote:
On May 14, 5:03 pm, RB wrote:

Apparently Mr. Obama can't either.
I think if I were an intelligent white woman with a son of mixed race
and multicultural background, I'd make sure that kid was documented as a
U.S. citizen.

And you were born where? Did your parents get you naturalized or
otherwise documented? Obama was born in Hawaii, which is every bit as
much a part of the United States as is Kansas.

No, his mother appeared in Hawaii with a newborn kid and proclaimed
"Hey, look what *just* popped out!"

According to the official record, he could have been born on Pluto.
Most of us can produce a birth certificate.
Obama apparently can't.

In article , RB wrote:

According to the official record, he could have been born on Pluto.

False. According to the official record, he was born in Honolulu.

Most of us can produce a birth certificate.

Maybe, maybe not. I am the first person in my line of descent to have been
born in a hospital. My father and all his siblings were born at home, in rural
Pennsylvania, between 1913 and 1931. I doubt that any of them can produce a
birth certificate.

Obama apparently can't.

Garbage. He has already done so; you can see an image he
http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

The full story, which hopefully will cure your delusions, can be found he
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

This stuff is *not* hard to find. One must assume that you are either
deliberately spreading falsehoods, or have chosen to remain ignorant.

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
In article , RB
wrote:

According to the official record, he could have been born on Pluto.

False. According to the official record, he was born in Honolulu.

Most of us can produce a birth certificate.

Maybe, maybe not. I am the first person in my line of descent to have been
born in a hospital. My father and all his siblings were born at home, in
rural
Pennsylvania, between 1913 and 1931. I doubt that any of them can produce
a
birth certificate.

Obama apparently can't.

Garbage. He has already done so; you can see an image he
http://msgboard.snopes.com/politics/graphics/birth.jpg

The full story, which hopefully will cure your delusions, can be found
he
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

This stuff is *not* hard to find. One must assume that you are either
deliberately spreading falsehoods, or have chosen to remain ignorant.

The folk at snopes are a bunch of Obama lovers. LOL, snopes must think you
are stupid and can't see the 2007 on the other side of the laser paper.
Maybe snopes can investigate what year the laser printer was invented.

Basil Karlo wrote:

The folk at snopes are a bunch of Obama lovers. LOL, snopes must think
you are stupid and can't see the 2007 on the other side of the laser
paper. Maybe snopes can investigate what year the laser printer was
invented.

To get a passport in '04, I needed the official birth certificate from
the county seat where I was born. What I got was NOT a duplicate of
the original from the hospital, which I have and is what was given to
my parents in 1949. What I got is a notarized printout from microfiche
of the official county record. I don't know what the watermark of the
paper is, but it's probably from '04. Do you really think official
records are still endless file cabinets of paper documents?

David

"David R.Birch" wrote:

Basil Karlo wrote:

The folk at snopes are a bunch of Obama lovers. LOL, snopes must think
you are stupid and can't see the 2007 on the other side of the laser
paper. Maybe snopes can investigate what year the laser printer was
invented.

To get a passport in '04, I needed the official birth certificate from
the county seat where I was born. What I got was NOT a duplicate of
the original from the hospital, which I have and is what was given to
my parents in 1949. What I got is a notarized printout from microfiche
of the official county record. I don't know what the watermark of the
paper is, but it's probably from '04. Do you really think official
records are still endless file cabinets of paper documents?


I had to have my birth certificate when i entered the military. They
were supposed to photocopy it, for my records. instead, they copied it
by hand, and over half the information is wrong, including two of my
mother's names. Try to get a mess like cleared up, some time.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

"David R.Birch" wrote in message
...
Basil Karlo wrote:

The folk at snopes are a bunch of Obama lovers. LOL, snopes must think
you are stupid and can't see the 2007 on the other side of the laser
paper. Maybe snopes can investigate what year the laser printer was
invented.

To get a passport in '04, I needed the official birth certificate from the
county seat where I was born. What I got was NOT a duplicate of the
original from the hospital, which I have and is what was given to my
parents in 1949. What I got is a notarized printout from microfiche of the
official county record. I don't know what the watermark of the paper is,
but it's probably from '04. Do you really think official records are still
endless file cabinets of paper documents?


Understood. You received a certificate of live birth also. It does not prove
where you were born, or which hospital you were born in, or who delivered
you like your official birth certificate does. It just proves you were born.
Have you tried running for President with your passport?

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
m...

"David R.Birch" wrote:

Basil Karlo wrote:

The folk at snopes are a bunch of Obama lovers. LOL, snopes must think
you are stupid and can't see the 2007 on the other side of the laser
paper. Maybe snopes can investigate what year the laser printer was
invented.

To get a passport in '04, I needed the official birth certificate from
the county seat where I was born. What I got was NOT a duplicate of
the original from the hospital, which I have and is what was given to
my parents in 1949. What I got is a notarized printout from microfiche
of the official county record. I don't know what the watermark of the
paper is, but it's probably from '04. Do you really think official
records are still endless file cabinets of paper documents?


I had to have my birth certificate when i entered the military. They
were supposed to photocopy it, for my records. instead, they copied it
by hand, and over half the information is wrong, including two of my
mother's names. Try to get a mess like cleared up, some time.



Try running for President with that!