Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

Erik

"Erik" wrote in message
et...
Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

If you just access text newsgroups you can probably get along with
http://news.aioe.org/ for free or http://www.teranews.com/ for a one-time $3.95
setup fee. AT&T still provides access to a good news server, but I keep
wondering when that shoe will drop. Since I continue my account there mostly
for the newsgroup access, it will be their loss if it happens.

Vaughn

In article et,
Erik wrote:

Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

That explains why things went strange a little while ago. I don't
recall any notice from Comcast.

So, I'm in the market for a newsgroup service. Comcast used Giganews,
which worked well except when Comcast screwed it up somehow. Going
direct eliminates one layer of trouble.

What else do people use and like, or hate, and why?

Joe Gwinn

It seems to be coming on more and more.
News groups are turned into political crap on each other sites and stealing
music, movies, smut and the like.

It is a real shame that some people feel so much shame or hurt that they
must strike out and slander each other and anyone in the political scene.

This is a metal group. How much metal working is done here ? NOT MUCH ANYMORE.

IT IS A REAL SHAME. I'm glad I have printed a number of statements and facts
here while the group was at the focus of metal working.

I Cez the enemy - they is us. Pogo.

Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Erik wrote:
Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

Erik


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I use giganews, myself. Very reliable.

i

Joseph Gwinn writes:


So, I'm in the market for a newsgroup service. Comcast used Giganews,
which worked well except when Comcast screwed it up somehow. Going
direct eliminates one layer of trouble.

What else do people use and like, or hate, and why?


I get shell service from panix.com for $100/year. It's the
best money I spend. But even I admit that if I wanted solely
news, it might be over kill.

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is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

Erik writes:

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

Thanks for the information. Anybody have some comments on other nntp:
servers?

"Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Erik wrote:

Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

That explains why things went strange a little while ago. I don't
recall any notice from Comcast.

So, I'm in the market for a newsgroup service. Comcast used Giganews,
which worked well except when Comcast screwed it up somehow. Going
direct eliminates one layer of trouble.

What else do people use and like, or hate, and why?

I use www.newsguy.com - they have responsive tech support and include space
for a web site in their package.

Mike

In article et,
Erik wrote:
:Hi all,
:
:I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
:access.
:
:http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

Newsguy is offering a free month of service to Comcast customers. See

http://newsguy.com/freemonth.htm

I've used Newsguy for several years. Long retention, very reliable.
Their "Basic" account allows 10 GB per month for $39.95 annually
($8.95/month if you pay monthly) and includes an email account. Unused
capacity carries forward indefinitely with no cap.

--
Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42"

I use news.individual.net out of Berlin for ten Euros a year. Reliable and
fast servers, but no binaries. Good spam filters too, apparently i see a lot
less wacko and commercial posts than many of you.
--
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

On 2008-09-21, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In article et,
Erik wrote:

Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

[ ... ]

So, I'm in the market for a newsgroup service. Comcast used Giganews,
which worked well except when Comcast screwed it up somehow. Going
direct eliminates one layer of trouble.

What else do people use and like, or hate, and why?

I use newsguy (check out http://www.newsguy.com for
information). They offer both web access and NNTP access, along with
their own custom newsreaders for Windows systems (which I have never
tried because I connect from my unix systems).

If you follow newsguy.announce and newsguy.general, you will get
advance notice of things which might impact your newsreading, such as a
recent move to new servers in Virginia, and you will get to know the
people behind the company.

They are in the practice of offering a free month of access to
those who have been disenfranchised by ISP's dropping news service.

There are others -- but this is the one which I picked when my
previous ISP dropped newsfeeds (including to my personal news servers,
and a couple of weeks later, killed their own news server as well.

FWIW -- if you mention the name of who recommended them to you,
they will get some credit to their own account. Don't feel that you
have to for me -- but it would be nice. :-)

Good Luck,
DoN.

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In article ,
"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2008-09-21, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In article et,
Erik wrote:

Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

[ ... ]

So, I'm in the market for a newsgroup service. Comcast used Giganews,
which worked well except when Comcast screwed it up somehow. Going
direct eliminates one layer of trouble.

What else do people use and like, or hate, and why?

I use newsguy (check out http://www.newsguy.com for
information). They offer both web access and NNTP access, along with
their own custom newsreaders for Windows systems (which I have never
tried because I connect from my unix systems).

If you follow newsguy.announce and newsguy.general, you will get
advance notice of things which might impact your newsreading, such as a
recent move to new servers in Virginia, and you will get to know the
people behind the company.

They are in the practice of offering a free month of access to
those who have been disenfranchised by ISP's dropping news service.

There are others -- but this is the one which I picked when my
previous ISP dropped newsfeeds (including to my personal news servers,
and a couple of weeks later, killed their own news server as well.

FWIW -- if you mention the name of who recommended them to you,
they will get some credit to their own account. Don't feel that you
have to for me -- but it would be nice. :-)

So far, the contenders are Giganews (the implicit incumbent) and Newsguy.

Time for some research.

Joe Gwinn

On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:52:40 -0700, Erik wrote:

Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

Erik

As of 6/30/08, Verizon offers only comp.*, humanities.*, misc.*,
news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*., and talk.*.

When I bought Forte Agent, it included 3 months of service from APN.
Aside from it not being included with COmcast service, I thought was
better than Giganews. http://www.forteinc.com I'm not affiliated.

Phil Stein

David Lesher wrote:
Joseph Gwinn writes:


So, I'm in the market for a newsgroup service. Comcast used Giganews,
which worked well except when Comcast screwed it up somehow. Going
direct eliminates one layer of trouble.

What else do people use and like, or hate, and why?


I get shell service from panix.com for $100/year. It's the
best money I spend. But even I admit that if I wanted solely
news, it might be over kill.

I second the panix. They run a good show which is well worth the $100.
Ripco.com would pretty much be their equivalent in Chicago. Both are
smaller ISPs that go back forever and aren't retarded like the large value
subtracted companies.

Phil Stein wrote:
As of 6/30/08, Verizon offers only comp.*, humanities.*, misc.*,
news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*., and talk.*. ...

We've been getting alt.*. NW of Boston, maybe it's a regional thing.

Bob
---
Nota for President

Joseph Gwinn wrote:

So far, the contenders are Giganews (the implicit incumbent) and Newsguy.

Time for some research.

Joe Gwinn

Here's another vote for newsguy, which I've used since RoadBummer
dropped Usenet in June.

David

In article ,
"David R.Birch" wrote:

Joseph Gwinn wrote:

So far, the contenders are Giganews (the implicit incumbent) and Newsguy.

Time for some research.

Joe Gwinn

Here's another vote for newsguy, which I've used since RoadBummer
dropped Usenet in June.

The internet strikes again ... there is are review sites for network
news providers:

http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/Newsguy.html

http://www.usenet-newsgroup.net/newsguy.html

http://www.newsgroupreviews.com/Giganews.html

This one claims that Giganews is the best US provider.

Joe Gwinn

Joseph Gwinn writes:

This one claims that Giganews is the best US provider.

A lot depends on what's important. Price is more important than binaries.
I tried Teranews, but I didn't like the tagline and the service.

So I went to glorb for $10 a year. No problems.

Maxwell Lol wrote:

Joseph Gwinn writes:

This one claims that Giganews is the best US provider.

A lot depends on what's important. Price is more important than binaries.
I tried Teranews, but I didn't like the tagline and the service.

So I went to glorb for $10 a year. No problems.

It doesn't appear in the reviews, but usenetmonster seems to be a good
choice. Rollover GB ensures I'll never hit any limits.

On Sep 20, 11:07*pm, Joseph Gwinn wrote:

What else do people use and like, or hate, and why?

Joe Gwinn

Google Groups has no filters but otherwise it works fine on a slow
dialup connection. You could use it for a backup until you find
another paid news reader with filters.

Actually the spam and agitprop is so childishly obvious that it
doesn't seriously interfere with finding on-topic postings except when
the spammers completely flood the group. I have a large monitor at
high resolution and can usually see all unread posts on a single page.
It's like scanning a newspaper.

I missed the Staff meeting, but the Memos showed that Phil Stein
wrote on Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:26:50
-0400 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:52:40 -0700, Erik wrote:

Hi all,

I saw in some other groups that Comcast will soon be dumping newsgroup
access.

http://www.comcast.net/newsgroups/

Erik

As of 6/30/08, Verizon offers only comp.*, humanities.*, misc.*,
news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*., and talk.*.

Unfortunately, of the 18 groups I subscribe to, 12 aren't carried
by Verizon. Nerts.

When I bought Forte Agent, it included 3 months of service from APN.
Aside from it not being included with COmcast service, I thought was
better than Giganews. http://www.forteinc.com I'm not affiliated.

Phil Stein
--
pyotr filipivich
"I had just been through hell and must have looked like death warmed
over walking into the saloon, because when I asked the bartender
whether they served zombies he said, ‘Sure, what'll you have?'"
from I Hear America Swinging by Peter DeVries

On 2008-09-23, Maxwell Lol wrote:
Joseph Gwinn writes:

This one claims that Giganews is the best US provider.

A lot depends on what's important. Price is more important than binaries.
I tried Teranews, but I didn't like the tagline and the service.

So I went to glorb for $10 a year. No problems.

FWIW, Newsguy will put a default tagline (.sig) in -- if you
don't define your own .sig which prevents them from adding their own.
That may also be the case with Teranews.

How you do it is newsreader specific. In unix systems, it is
usually taken from a file named ".signature" in the user's home
directory. MS-DOS does not like files with a dot anywhere other than
between the 8-character filename body and the three-character filename
extension. Windows tends to be a bit more forgiving there, but I still
don't know whether they can accept a file whose name starts with '.'.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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On 2008-09-23, Pete C. wrote:

Maxwell Lol wrote:

Joseph Gwinn writes:

This one claims that Giganews is the best US provider.

A lot depends on what's important. Price is more important than binaries.
I tried Teranews, but I didn't like the tagline and the service.

So I went to glorb for $10 a year. No problems.

It doesn't appear in the reviews, but usenetmonster seems to be a good
choice. Rollover GB ensures I'll never hit any limits.

Same with Newsguy. I'm up to over 1 Terabyte of unused
bandwidth, since I don't frequent binary newsgroups.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 24 Sep 2008 04:29:35 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

snip
MS-DOS does not like files with a dot anywhere other than
between the 8-character filename body and the three-character filename
extension. Windows tends to be a bit more forgiving there, but I still
don't know whether they can accept a file whose name starts with '.'.

Windows NT4 can make a file like that from the dot-prompt
(made a file called "..txt"). File Explorer wouldn't let me
use that name though. It sees the file just fine and you can
work with it, just can't create or rename it as such.

I do have "Posix" compatibility enabled, that may have
something to do with it. I can create symlinks to files too,
which can be handy at times (and confusing without some
notes).

--
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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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On 2008-09-25, Leon Fisk wrote:
On 24 Sep 2008 04:29:35 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

snip
MS-DOS does not like files with a dot anywhere other than
between the 8-character filename body and the three-character filename
extension. Windows tends to be a bit more forgiving there, but I still
don't know whether they can accept a file whose name starts with '.'.

Windows NT4 can make a file like that from the dot-prompt
(made a file called "..txt"). File Explorer wouldn't let me
use that name though. It sees the file just fine and you can
work with it, just can't create or rename it as such.

Interesting.

I do have "Posix" compatibility enabled, that may have
something to do with it. I can create symlinks to files too,
which can be handy at times (and confusing without some
notes).

Hmm ... is there no form of directory listing which will show a
symlink as a symlink? Some options on unix will even show where the
symlink points.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 26 Sep 2008 04:19:34 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

snip
Hmm ... is there no form of directory listing which will show a
symlink as a symlink? Some options on unix will even show where the
symlink points.

Sure, but they have been ported to Windows from the *nixes


I sure didn't make the symlinks using an MS program. Most
likely the same programs you use, or very similar. Ls and Ln
come to mind. I don't use them all that often and always
have to check their usage and my notes first. Yup, Ls for
displaying stuff like that and Ln to create the symlinks.

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