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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.
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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Welcome to the club, Don, and thank God you made it. I had mine last year --
not sympomless, as I felt the angina -- but the docs said that taking two
(uncoated) aspirin right away probably saved my life.

Be prepared for a period of psychological adjustment to the idea that you
are now a heart-attack victim. It's changed a lot of my attitudes.

We'll celebrate the anniversaries of your deliverance.

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Congratulations Don, I hope that you will recover nicely. I was
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Don Foreman wrote:
I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


That's rough. But I'm glad you made it to the doctor in time. I hope you
make a steady recovery without any further problems!

Best wishes,

Chris

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Don Foreman wrote:

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Hang in there Don. Glad you made it.
Mine was like a stomach ache that wouldn't go away for a few days
almost 10 yrs ago.
A stent and a couple ream jobs over the next year and it's been
OK since. Cut down on the fats and excersize lots and simvastatin,
atenolol, and lately plavix seem to be keeping me going.
...lew...


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"Don Foreman" wrote in message
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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Welcome to the club, Don, and thank God you made it. I had mine last year --
not sympomless, as I felt the angina -- but the docs said that taking two
(uncoated) aspirin right away probably saved my life.

Be prepared for a period of psychological adjustment to the idea that you
are now a heart-attack victim. It's changed a lot of my attitudes.


I think attitude can make a huge difference in pshychological
adjustment. It can be trap or opportunity.

I am not a poor victim, I am a lucky survivor! I didn't "have to
give up smoking", I got the launch I needed to get it done. I'd
said for some time that I'd quit if I were out for more than 3 days.
I was out for 6. By then I was already a "former smoker" so all I
need do now is maintain that status. Think cash available for new
toys, oh yeah! Now, rather than thinking "I crave a smoke" I think
"I'm glad I'm able to ignore this minor itch that will be gone in 5
minutes."

We'll celebrate the anniversaries of your deliverance.


Thanks. I know I will!
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Don Foreman wrote:
I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


That's rough. But I'm glad you made it to the doctor in time. I hope you
make a steady recovery without any further problems!

Best wishes,

Chris


Thanks, Chris. I've been told to expect a steady recovery -- and that
if I do my part I should expect to feel better 3 months from now than
I have felt any time in the past decade. Oxygen!
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Don Foreman wrote:

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


That's rough. But I'm glad you made it to the doctor in time. I hope you
make a steady recovery without any further problems!

Best wishes,

Chris



Thanks, Chris. I've been told to expect a steady recovery -- and that
if I do my part I should expect to feel better 3 months from now than
I have felt any time in the past decade. Oxygen!



I dunno 'bout that. Don.

I was a heavy smoker and managed to quit right near (10 days in fact) a
year ago. It took 6 or 8 months for that nasty little "itch" to die
down. I was glad I didn't smoke any more, but there wasn't a day went
by that I didn't think I wanted a cigarette.

Then, something odd happened. I went from being glad I didn't smoke,
to being glad I didn't HAVE to smoke.

June 4th will be my one year anniversary.

I can say that yes, I feel better than when I smoked, but I'm pretty
sure I'm not 21 any more...

Ah well, so much for smoking.

Recover!

Take it easy. Don't rush recovery by "scheduling".

Take your time - in fact, take the rest of your life!

Take your meds, do the therapy.

Stick around a while.

And thanks for the warning (!)


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Lucky guy...Kudos to your guardian angel.
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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

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On Sat, 24 May 2008 08:24:26 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
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"Don Foreman" wrote in message
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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Welcome to the club, Don, and thank God you made it. I had mine last
year --
not sympomless, as I felt the angina -- but the docs said that taking two
(uncoated) aspirin right away probably saved my life.

Be prepared for a period of psychological adjustment to the idea that you
are now a heart-attack victim. It's changed a lot of my attitudes.


I think attitude can make a huge difference in pshychological
adjustment. It can be trap or opportunity.

I am not a poor victim, I am a lucky survivor! I didn't "have to
give up smoking", I got the launch I needed to get it done. I'd
said for some time that I'd quit if I were out for more than 3 days.
I was out for 6. By then I was already a "former smoker" so all I
need do now is maintain that status. Think cash available for new
toys, oh yeah! Now, rather than thinking "I crave a smoke" I think
"I'm glad I'm able to ignore this minor itch that will be gone in 5
minutes."

We'll celebrate the anniversaries of your deliverance.


Thanks. I know I will!


Funny how a heart attack can suddenly make smoking seem like a habit you can
live without. That happened to me right at New Year's so I'm almost to 5
months of not smoking and it sure is a lot easier now than it was about 4
months ago. I'm told that the cravings get pretty bad at about 6 weeks and
6 months. Hang in there - it does get better!




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Don Foreman wrote:
On Sat, 24 May 2008 13:47:45 +0000, Christopher Tidy
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Don Foreman wrote:

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

That's rough. But I'm glad you made it to the doctor in time. I hope you
make a steady recovery without any further problems!

Best wishes,

Chris



Thanks, Chris. I've been told to expect a steady recovery -- and that
if I do my part I should expect to feel better 3 months from now than
I have felt any time in the past decade. Oxygen!



I dunno 'bout that. Don.

I was a heavy smoker and managed to quit right near (10 days in fact) a
year ago. It took 6 or 8 months for that nasty little "itch" to die
down. I was glad I didn't smoke any more, but there wasn't a day went
by that I didn't think I wanted a cigarette.


I expect t'will be so for me too. Has been so far.

Then, something odd happened. I went from being glad I didn't smoke,
to being glad I didn't HAVE to smoke.

June 4th will be my one year anniversary.

I can say that yes, I feel better than when I smoked, but I'm pretty
sure I'm not 21 any more...


The big anticipated change for me is having my heart work more like a
normal one. I had four arteries totally blocked and a fifth 80%
blocked. I now have bypasses in place, TBD how much capacity will be
recovered after some healing time.
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Don, I'm glad to see you're one of the lucky ones. Others are here one day
gone the next.

I see its already changed your habits. I don't think I've ever seen you post
at 6:30 in the morning. Aren't you a night owl?

So, the important question. When did Doc say you can hold a fishin' rod
again? A couple years ago, a doc told me I should quit fishin' for a while.
I went right out and got another doc.

Get well and take care,

Karl



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Thanks, Chris. I've been told to expect a steady recovery -- and that
if I do my part I should expect to feel better 3 months from now than
I have felt any time in the past decade. Oxygen!


Hope so. In the meantime, enjoy reading r.c.m :-).

Best wishes,

Chris

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Don, I'm glad to see you're one of the lucky ones. Others are here one day
gone the next.

I see its already changed your habits. I don't think I've ever seen you post
at 6:30 in the morning. Aren't you a night owl?

So, the important question. When did Doc say you can hold a fishin' rod
again? A couple years ago, a doc told me I should quit fishin' for a while.
I went right out and got another doc.


I'll be able to fish off the dock in a few weeks. Might use my boat
after first of August or so. Won't get much outdoor riflery this
year, oh well.

We were thinkin' about y'all yesterday, with apple trees going nuts
with blooms around here right now.
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Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.



Damn glad you are still with us. Do what the doc's say.

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I am not a poor victim, I am a lucky survivor! I didn't "have to
give up smoking", I got the launch I needed to get it done. I'd
said for some time that I'd quit if I were out for more than 3 days.
I was out for 6. By then I was already a "former smoker" so all I
need do now is maintain that status. Think cash available for new
toys, oh yeah! Now, rather than thinking "I crave a smoke" I think
"I'm glad I'm able to ignore this minor itch that will be gone in 5
minutes."



When I was diagnosed with hypertension, my doc asked me one question, did I
smoke. I said no, I quit May 1986. Then I asked him why he asked. He
responded that if I was a smoker and wasn't willing to give it up, it wasn't
worth is time to treat me since it would be useless.

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Don Foreman wrote:

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.



Damn, Don. That is nothing to play with. Glad you caught it when you
did. Hope you have a speedy recovery. The bypass should hlp with the
energy levels also.

Jim
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Don Foreman wrote:

On Sat, 24 May 2008 13:47:45 +0000, Christopher Tidy
wrote:


Don Foreman wrote:

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.
Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.
Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


That's rough. But I'm glad you made it to the doctor in time. I hope
you make a steady recovery without any further problems!

Best wishes,

Chris




Thanks, Chris. I've been told to expect a steady recovery -- and that
if I do my part I should expect to feel better 3 months from now than
I have felt any time in the past decade. Oxygen!




I dunno 'bout that. Don.

I was a heavy smoker and managed to quit right near (10 days in fact) a
year ago. It took 6 or 8 months for that nasty little "itch" to die
down. I was glad I didn't smoke any more, but there wasn't a day went
by that I didn't think I wanted a cigarette.

Then, something odd happened. I went from being glad I didn't smoke,
to being glad I didn't HAVE to smoke.

June 4th will be my one year anniversary.

I can say that yes, I feel better than when I smoked, but I'm pretty
sure I'm not 21 any more...

Ah well, so much for smoking.

Recover!

Take it easy. Don't rush recovery by "scheduling".

Take your time - in fact, take the rest of your life!

Take your meds, do the therapy.

Stick around a while.

And thanks for the warning (!)


Richard



Good for you, Richard. Hang in there.

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I'll be able to fish off the dock in a few weeks. Might use my boat
after first of August or so. Won't get much outdoor riflery this
year, oh well.

We were thinkin' about y'all yesterday, with apple trees going nuts
with blooms around here right now.


What's up? Pardon my late entry into this. My hard drive crashed, and so
did I, spending six days in the hospital. We're back now. Give me the
short version.

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Don Foreman wrote:

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Don Foreman wrote:


I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

That's rough. But I'm glad you made it to the doctor in time. I hope you
make a steady recovery without any further problems!

Best wishes,

Chris


Thanks, Chris. I've been told to expect a steady recovery -- and that
if I do my part I should expect to feel better 3 months from now than
I have felt any time in the past decade. Oxygen!



I dunno 'bout that. Don.

I was a heavy smoker and managed to quit right near (10 days in fact) a
year ago. It took 6 or 8 months for that nasty little "itch" to die
down. I was glad I didn't smoke any more, but there wasn't a day went
by that I didn't think I wanted a cigarette.



I expect t'will be so for me too. Has been so far.

Then, something odd happened. I went from being glad I didn't smoke,
to being glad I didn't HAVE to smoke.

June 4th will be my one year anniversary.

I can say that yes, I feel better than when I smoked, but I'm pretty
sure I'm not 21 any more...



The big anticipated change for me is having my heart work more like a
normal one. I had four arteries totally blocked and a fifth 80%
blocked. I now have bypasses in place, TBD how much capacity will be
recovered after some healing time.



Oh man, Don.
You was pulgged up!

That will make more difference than getting the lungs cleared out.

Doing both you might just think you're 21 again!?!


Richard


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Don Foreman wrote:

On Sat, 24 May 2008 13:47:45 +0000, Christopher Tidy
wrote:


Don Foreman wrote:

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual. Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance.
Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did. Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks.
After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.
Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.



That's rough. But I'm glad you made it to the doctor in time. I hope
you make a steady recovery without any further problems!

Best wishes,

Chris




Thanks, Chris. I've been told to expect a steady recovery -- and that
if I do my part I should expect to feel better 3 months from now than
I have felt any time in the past decade. Oxygen!





I dunno 'bout that. Don.

I was a heavy smoker and managed to quit right near (10 days in fact) a
year ago. It took 6 or 8 months for that nasty little "itch" to die
down. I was glad I didn't smoke any more, but there wasn't a day went
by that I didn't think I wanted a cigarette.

Then, something odd happened. I went from being glad I didn't smoke,
to being glad I didn't HAVE to smoke.

June 4th will be my one year anniversary.

I can say that yes, I feel better than when I smoked, but I'm pretty
sure I'm not 21 any more...

Ah well, so much for smoking.

Recover!

Take it easy. Don't rush recovery by "scheduling".

Take your time - in fact, take the rest of your life!

Take your meds, do the therapy.

Stick around a while.

And thanks for the warning (!)


Richard




Good for you, Richard. Hang in there.

Jim


Thanks, Jim.
I appreciate it.

Will, of course, do just exactly that!

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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to the 60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than sorry
once you're past 50.


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Don Foreman wrote:

I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual. Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then,
for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did. Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After
the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit. Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass
later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Had a 5 holer and an aortic valve replaced coming on six years ago this
June. Yeah, it's nice once you get up and around to see what it's like to
be hitting on all cylinders again.

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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to the

60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than sorry
once you're past 50.


It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better bet is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke


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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to the

60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than sorry
once you're past 50.


It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better bet is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke


If you really believe that, start buying life insurance on us --
particularly those of us who want a short life, are ignorant, eat
badly, never exercise, void doctors, etc.


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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to the

60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than sorry
once you're past 50.


It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women
all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better bet
is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke

Well, gee thanks, Hawke. Drinking too much coffee is the only part of your
list that applied to me. In any case, many apparently healthy men suffer
heart attacks, even men who have followed "heart healthy" diet guidelines
and don't smoke, etc..


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On Sat, 24 May 2008 22:41:50 -0700, "Hawke"
wrote:


I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to
the

60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than sorry
once you're past 50.


It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women
all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better bet
is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke


If you really believe that, start buying life insurance on us --
particularly those of us who want a short life, are ignorant, eat
badly, never exercise, void doctors, etc.


And I'd like to see how he would do after 35 years with Type 1 diabetes.
Statistically, I should be blind, crippled, and probably dead. Five stents
and a mild heart attack is getting off easy.

It's all the good living. d8-)

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Don't pay Hawke no nevermind. I have a feeling he knows first hand how
Connie feels.

I happened to see Condi Rice being interviewed by Maria Bartaromo on Friday

and I couldn't help thinking how totally irrelevant Rice has become.
Nothing
she says means anything and nobody pays the least bit of attention to
her.
Least of all the other diplomats and politicians around the world.
Boy, did
she do a lousy job as Secretary of State, completely over her head.
Which
just goes to show you that no matter how smart and how accomplished a
person
is they can't do everything well. Rice was picked because she was a
Bush
crony and it showed two things; Bush had no idea how to choose someone
for
that job, and Rice was manifestly unsuitable for the Secretary of
State
position.

Hawke

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It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women
all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better bet
is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke


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Well, gee thanks, Hawke. Drinking too much coffee is the only part of your
list that applied to me. In any case, many apparently healthy men suffer
heart attacks, even men who have followed "heart healthy" diet guidelines
and don't smoke, etc..

Yep. Who was the guy that was the "health food" nut (something about
the "wild asparagus" ) that died a few years ago from a heart attack?
He was only a "middle aged" guy.
It happens to quite a few with no obvious reasons.
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Yep. Who was the guy that was the "health food" nut (something about
the "wild asparagus" ) that died a few years ago from a heart attack?
He was only a "middle aged" guy.
It happens to quite a few with no obvious reasons.
...lew...


Euell Gibbons. Wrote stalking the wild asparagus.

A genetic disorder left him with a weakened aorta. One day it burst.

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It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women
all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better bet
is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke


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"Don Foreman" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 22:41:50 -0700, "Hawke"
wrote:


I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to

the
60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than

sorry
once you're past 50.


It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a

large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy

coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women

all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you

will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better bet

is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke


If you really believe that, start buying life insurance on us --
particularly those of us who want a short life, are ignorant, eat
badly, never exercise, void doctors, etc.


That sounds like a good idea. But I need to know which ones of you are going
to keep living the unhealthy lifestyles. I wouldn't want to buy insurance on
the ones who changed their ways. That would be a bad investment decision on
my part.


Hawke


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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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"Don Foreman" wrote in message
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 22:41:50 -0700, "Hawke"
wrote:


I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite,

the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then,

for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go

right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the

second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were

countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20%

thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and,

I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good

oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a

nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to
the
60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than

sorry
once you're past 50.

It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a

large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy

coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women
all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted

a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you

will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better

bet
is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke


If you really believe that, start buying life insurance on us --
particularly those of us who want a short life, are ignorant, eat
badly, never exercise, void doctors, etc.


And I'd like to see how he would do after 35 years with Type 1 diabetes.
Statistically, I should be blind, crippled, and probably dead. Five stents
and a mild heart attack is getting off easy.

It's all the good living. d8-)



Didn't I say you should be thankful for the advancements of modern medicine?
Boy, it sounds like you really made out. If you were born twenty or thirty
years earlier you would have had one short life. You're lucky! But I still
think baseball had something to do with your problems.

Hawke


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I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.

Glad they found it in time. I had a little overnight stay and a nuclear
stress test a few years ago due to a false alarm- probably related to

the
60
or 70 ounces of high-test coffee I used to drink. Better safe than

sorry
once you're past 50.


It's a wonder that a lot of you guys are still alive. I guess I'll chalk
that up to improvements in medical treatment because the lifestyle a

large
number of you guys engaged in was bound to catch up with you. Heavy

coffee
drinking, smoking cigarettes, eating like ****, not exercising, avoiding
doctors, man, what the hell were you guys thinking? No wonder the women
all
live longer. They're clearly smarter. It sounds like some of you wanted

a
short life. Either that or you are incredibly ignorant about how to be
healthy. Now that you all have had heart procedures maybe some of you

will
actually change your habits. But knowing men as I do I think a better

bet
is
to expect early funerals for a lot of you guys.

Hawke

Well, gee thanks, Hawke. Drinking too much coffee is the only part of your
list that applied to me. In any case, many apparently healthy men suffer
heart attacks, even men who have followed "heart healthy" diet guidelines
and don't smoke, etc..


That may be true but I was talking about people who due to unhealthy
lifestyles doomed themselves to rather short lives. By now we all know what
an unhealthy diet is and what living healthy is about. At least we should.
On the other hand, has anyone seen the show You are What You Eat? If you
haven't you should. The people on the show are clueless about what is a bad
diet and how to live a healthy life. Consequently, they look like **** and
are eating themselves into an early grave. I suspect that while some of you
guys have the "bad gene" or some other unfortunate problem that causes
health problems most of your health problems are lifestyle realated. Don't
you hate hearing that after years any years of letting yourself go? Believe
me though, I know what I'm talking about. A few years ago I weighed almost
300 lbs. Since then I've been getting back into shape and now workout six
days a week and I'm still not at my ideal weight yet. But at least I'm on
the way. I suggest the rest of you guys start a health regimen before it's
too late.

Hawke


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"Lew Hartswick" wrote in message
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Yep. Who was the guy that was the "health food" nut (something about
the "wild asparagus" ) that died a few years ago from a heart attack?
He was only a "middle aged" guy.
It happens to quite a few with no obvious reasons.
...lew...


Euell Gibbons. Wrote stalking the wild asparagus.

A genetic disorder left him with a weakened aorta. One day it burst.


Yeah, Mr. Natural died of natural causes. Fitting, wot?

Remember the VW joke?

"Hi. I'm Euell Gibbons. Did you know that many parts of your common
Volkswagon are edible?"

(P.S: Welcome back to the living, Don.)

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Hawke


Can yew say condescending? I knew yew could.


Do you expect trolls to act non-troll-like?

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"Don Foreman" wrote:
I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


I'm glad you're still here, Don.

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"Don Foreman" wrote

I'll be able to fish off the dock in a few weeks. Might use my boat
after first of August or so. Won't get much outdoor riflery this
year, oh well.

We were thinkin' about y'all yesterday, with apple trees going nuts
with blooms around here right now.


What's up? Pardon my late entry into this. My hard drive crashed, and so
did I, spending six days in the hospital. We're back now. Give me the
short version.

Steve



What happened to you Steve? 6 days in the hospital????

Thats serious

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On Sun, 25 May 2008 17:37:54 -0700, the renowned "Jon Danniken"
wrote:

"Don Foreman" wrote:
I had a case of the flu last January. Achy muscles, no appetite, the
usual.

Had another little dose of it coupla weeks ago. Nuisance. Then, for
no apparent reason, I couldn't get my breath. Uh oh, let's go right
now! We did.

Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


I'm glad you're still here, Don.

Jon


Definitely! Take it easy Don. As long as the old brain is hitting on
all cylinders, it's good.


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On 2008-05-24, Don Foreman wrote:

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Turns out I'd had two "symptomless" heart attacks. After the second,
the docs said my hours remaining without intervention were countable
with a single digit.

Now, a couple of weeks and one quintuple bypass later, they're quite
optimistic. They said being generally healthy and strong helped a
lot. I'll be limited to 10% "load rating" for a month, then 20% thru
Labor Day, then whatever I can rehab myself to after that -- and, I'd
have more energy than I'd had for a decade with all that good oxygen
getting to where it needs to go.


Glad you made it in time. Would hate to see you missing from
this newsgroup.

Get better,
DoN.

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