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Keeping a lathe and mill warm over winter?
Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) |
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"Pete Bergstrom" insisted
but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. How 'bout pipe warming tape? You could just wrap a section of the base or table and let 'er run. The stuff comes both in bulk or already terminated with a plug. LLoyd |
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I ran into the same thing when I went back to Walmart for another
coffee cup warmer. They now call these candle warmers to heat the aroma therapy candles where flames are not allowed or where the soot given off by the candle when it burns is objectionable. Look in the Artsy-Fartsy section. As the clerk for a candle warmer if you cant find one. Big notice on the package that these are not to be used to warm food or beverage. This may be why they aren't sold as coffee warmers anymore. Uncle George On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:11:17 -0600, Pete Bergstrom wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) |
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Pete
A small space heater will keep the place dry. I got mne at COSTCO a few uears ago. They have a thermostat that will allow it to be used as a warmer. Perhaps a piece of plastic over your lathe and mill will help. Bob AZ |
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Pete Bergstrom wrote:
Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. Pete C. |
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Pete Bergstrom wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. These can not be used unless the coils are immersed in liquid (otherwise they burn out) and besides you can not FULLY immerse them so the duration of heat will be very short before you need to add liquid or unplug them. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. I just picked-up a used Corona kerosene heater for my shop. It starts and runs well and is independant of outside power. Although I like it for my use I don't know what the economics will look like yet (compared to electric or propane). Another good manufacturer is Kero-Sun. The simple, lower hassel, solution would be one of those oil filled electric heaters which look like an old time radiator; they never get hot enough to ignite things that come their way. And they work great. dennis in nca |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:46:27 GMT, Ignoramus19006 wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:33:10 GMT, Pete C. wrote: Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. I would really like to find a small, safe heating element that would make perhaps abou 30 watts or so. I need two, one to keep the poultry waterer from freezing, and I would put another into my welding machine. I will check out cabelas. Iggy, I've got a box of power resistors looking for a good home. All NOS Mallory stuff. Cover shipping plus 5 bucks, they're yours. Will (just) fit into a flat-rate box, so there's probably 50 of 'em in there. Up to 100 ohm/100 watt, all heavy duty ceramic wirewound type. Dave "Have I mentioned I've got lots of oddball stuff?" Hinz |
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"Pete C." wrote in message ... Pete Bergstrom wrote: [snip] Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. Pete C. It's called a "Golden Rod". Here are some http://www.sports4fan.com/boating/golden_rod.html Steve. |
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"rigger" wrote in message oups.com... Pete Bergstrom wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem [snip] I just picked-up a used Corona kerosene heater for my shop. It starts and runs well and is independant of outside power. Although I like it for my use I don't know what the economics will look like yet (compared to electric or propane). Another good manufacturer is Kero-Sun. The simple, lower hassel, solution would be one of those oil filled electric heaters which look like an old time radiator; they never get hot enough to ignite things that come their way. And they work great. dennis in nca First time I heated my shop with a kerosene heater I got surface rust all over the place. Some folks replied that this is due to the chemicals released when the kerosene is burned in an enclosed space. A nice man got an almost new kerosene heater at my yard sale. YMMV. Steve. |
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Ignoramus19006 wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:33:10 GMT, Pete C. wrote: Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. I would really like to find a small, safe heating element that would make perhaps abou 30 watts or so. I need two, one to keep the poultry waterer from freezing, and I would put another into my welding machine. I will check out cabelas. I thought about aquarium heaters for my machines, but they'd probably be more appropriate for your use. Thanks, Pete |
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rigger wrote:
Pete Bergstrom wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. These can not be used unless the coils are immersed in liquid (otherwise they burn out) and besides you can not FULLY immerse them so the duration of heat will be very short before you need to add liquid or unplug them. I was thinking of the ones where you set a coffee cup on the warmer which sits on your desk. I'd turn a metal disk to sit on the warmer and make good contact with the machine. Thanks, Pete |
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F. George McDuffee wrote:
I ran into the same thing when I went back to Walmart for another coffee cup warmer. They now call these candle warmers to heat the aroma therapy candles where flames are not allowed or where the soot given off by the candle when it burns is objectionable. Look in the Artsy-Fartsy section. As the clerk for a candle warmer if you cant find one. Big notice on the package that these are not to be used to warm food or beverage. This may be why they aren't sold as coffee warmers anymore. Aha! I'll go searching this weekend. Thanks!! Pete |
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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
"Pete Bergstrom" insisted but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. How 'bout pipe warming tape? You could just wrap a section of the base or table and let 'er run. The stuff comes both in bulk or already terminated with a plug. That might work very well for the colder temperatures. I used one of these to keep my mother's well from freezing up. Several years without a problem so far. The one I got had a thermostat that kicked in just above freezing; maybe I can find one that I could control across the range of dewpoints from season to season. Thanks! Pete |
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Pete C. wrote:
Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. Ah, it looks like a GoldenRod with an thermostatic circuit for on/off control will do what I want. I might want to do a bit more on the insulating side of my cover tarps, though. Thanks! Pete |
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Go to the Goodwill, Savers, or other second-hand stores. Plenty of them
there - I haven't had to pay over $3 yet... I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:11:17 -0600, Pete Bergstrom
wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Hey Pete, I don't think there is much you can do "for free". You'll have to spend something, no matter what you do. And it doesn't really take much. The metal does not have to be "warm", but just warmer that the dew point in the shop Ceiling fans help considerably. Just left on, directed over the machines, it will help a lot. Cover the machines loosely with something that will hold some heat in, like a blanket or cardboard box. Then put a light bulb underneath. If you can put a thermostat (garage sale tops 5 bucks) in line with the bulb. It will help, but note that most thermostat's won't "set" to below 50 degrees or so. If you do so, two hints.. use good "Rough Service" bulb(s),...and either a "cord light dimmer" which cuts the lamp output to about 1/2, or a lamp dimmer that allows even greater control. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. |
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Bob AZ wrote:
Pete A small space heater will keep the place dry. I got mne at COSTCO a few uears ago. They have a thermostat that will allow it to be used as a warmer. Perhaps a piece of plastic over your lathe and mill will help. Hmmm. Plastic would act as a water barrier and probably make it worse. What about an electric blanket?? Bill |
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Pete Bergstrom wrote: Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Farm store - heater that screws into light socket (but unlike a light bulb, does not burn out, or visibly glow). Farm store - poultry waterer heater (heater that sits under poultry waterer to keep it from freezing). Pet store - "hot rock" for reptiles. Household/closet store - "closet heater rod" - low temp heater to keep the closet from getting mouldy. And finally, the best suggestion of all (expensive, though): Rip out the slab, put in insulation, put in radiant tubing, pour a new slab, insulate the rest of the shop, run the radiant heat in the floor to keep the machines warm, and crank it up half a day before you go to use them, rather than letting them sit idle all winter... -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
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Pete Bergstrom wrote:
Pete C. wrote: Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. Ah, it looks like a GoldenRod with an thermostatic circuit for on/off control will do what I want. I might want to do a bit more on the insulating side of my cover tarps, though. Thanks! Pete Old blankets or sleeping bags work well for extra insulation. Perhaps not the most attractive, but if you're not in the cold shop working it shouldn't matter. Pete C. |
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Hey Pete,
I don't think there is much you can do "for free". You'll have to spend something, no matter what you do. Free isn't necessary. Safe and effective are my priorities. And it doesn't really take much. The metal does not have to be "warm", but just warmer that the dew point in the shop Ceiling fans help considerably. Just left on, directed over the machines, it will help a lot. Cover the machines loosely with something that will hold some heat in, like a blanket or cardboard box. Then put a light bulb underneath. If you can put a thermostat (garage sale tops 5 bucks) in line with the bulb. It will help, but note that most thermostat's won't "set" to below 50 degrees or so. If you do so, two hints.. use good "Rough Service" bulb(s),...and either a "cord light dimmer" which cuts the lamp output to about 1/2, or a lamp dimmer that allows even greater control. Quartz-halogen lamps might fix the major problem I have, which is the burnt-out bulb. It still has the "visible from outside" issue. Thanks! Pete |
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Ecnerwal wrote:
In article , Pete Bergstrom wrote: Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Farm store - heater that screws into light socket (but unlike a light bulb, does not burn out, or visibly glow). This sounds like a winner. Farm store - poultry waterer heater (heater that sits under poultry waterer to keep it from freezing). Pet store - "hot rock" for reptiles. Household/closet store - "closet heater rod" - low temp heater to keep the closet from getting mouldy. And finally, the best suggestion of all (expensive, though): Rip out the slab, put in insulation, put in radiant tubing, pour a new slab, insulate the rest of the shop, run the radiant heat in the floor to keep the machines warm, and crank it up half a day before you go to use them, rather than letting them sit idle all winter... I'm going in that direction; hopefully will get it done next summer. I've rebuilt my garage over the last 3 summers and the final parts of the project are a new floor and door. Thanks!! Pete |
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| I would really like to find a small, safe heating element that would
| make perhaps abou 30 watts or so. I need two, one to keep the poultry | waterer from freezing, and I would put another into my welding | machine. I will check out cabelas. Something like these? http://www.infraredheaters.com/ese.htm See if your local farmer's co-op has them. These things are so much better than what was out there for poultry twenty years ago, and are a whole lot nicer. I've never bought one, so I can't vouch for them, though. |
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Don't know your situation, but my shop is an uninsulated, unheated
downstairs 2 car garage. I just installed a vent in the forced-air heat duct in the ceiling to warm the shop with furnace operation. The garage doors don't seal at all, but my machines don't rust, even the ones situated near the doors. JR Dweller in the cellar Pete Bergstrom wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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Pete Bergstrom wrote:
Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) Paste wax works good on woodworking tools. Wes S -- Reply to: Whiskey Echo Sierra Sierra AT Alpha Charlie Echo Golf Romeo Oscar Paul dot Charlie Charlie Lycos address is a spam trap. |
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why not just use 220V lamps - they will put out a dull yellow light
and will last virtually forever (the ratio of life/rated life of a lamp is proportional to the 13th power of the voltage ratio, so cut the volts in half and your bulb will outlast you by a long shot) On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:11:17 -0600, Pete Bergstrom wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com |
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Industrial switchboards in humid countries often
have small strip heaters that keep the switchboard warmer than the wet bulb temperature so that no condensation will form in them . These are flat strips with tabs on them so they can be screwed to the inside of the cabinet. If I remember correctly, they were about 35 watts, so a couple of them attached in strategic places might do the job nicely. Try an industrial electrical supply for them Tom "Pete Bergstrom" wrote in message ... Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) |
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Ecnerwal wrote:
In article , Pete Bergstrom wrote: Farm store - heater that screws into light socket (but unlike a light bulb, does not burn out, or visibly glow). Farm store - poultry waterer heater (heater that sits under poultry waterer to keep it from freezing). Pet store - "hot rock" for reptiles. Household/closet store - "closet heater rod" - low temp heater to keep the closet from getting mouldy. How about salvaging the hotplate from a bunch of Goodwill coffee makers? Their only job is to keep the pot hot. technomaNge -- I listen to Rush and Sean on http://www.wabcradio.com/listenlive.asp daily. You should try it. |
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Hum -
I have two calrod - they are electric stove top elements - Home Depo etc sells them as replacements... They are 220v for the red hot times - electronic control drives them normally. If you have several heaters ... - put them in series and put 120 - they are insulated (except for the screw on terminals) - I plan on making a heat tank for welding rods with them myself. They are Freebies to me. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder Ignoramus19006 wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:33:10 GMT, Pete C. wrote: Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. I would really like to find a small, safe heating element that would make perhaps abou 30 watts or so. I need two, one to keep the poultry waterer from freezing, and I would put another into my welding machine. I will check out cabelas. i ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:11:17 -0600, Pete Bergstrom
wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) Ax Man in Fridley, maybe in St. Paul as well, usually has some heaters for under 2 bux. They look like fiberglass rope maybe 18" long, talking from memory here. I think they're about 50 watts running on 110 volt house current. If you want radiant heat, use 300-watt quartz-halogen tubes (very cheap at Menards) cranked way down to dim orange with an ordinary lamp dimmer. They'll run about forever that way. |
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Piano dehumidifier. The gun safe warmers are probably the same thing though.
Karl "Pete Bergstrom" wrote in message ... Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) |
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Waterbed heaters might work or a heating pad. You can get these at
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:11:17 -0600, Pete Bergstrom
wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) For coffee cup wamers..hit the second hand stores..Salvation Army..Goodwill, St. Vincents de Paul etc. They run about a buck. Plug em in before paying for em. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Keeping a lathe and mill warm over winter?
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:26:39 -0500, Bill Schwab
wrote: Bob AZ wrote: Pete A small space heater will keep the place dry. I got mne at COSTCO a few uears ago. They have a thermostat that will allow it to be used as a warmer. Perhaps a piece of plastic over your lathe and mill will help. Hmmm. Plastic would act as a water barrier and probably make it worse. What about an electric blanket?? Bill I put a plastic mattress bag over a lathe that was sitting on 4xs and staked it down all round. It was a green house the next day..with water standing on the lathe...not a good thing Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Keeping a lathe and mill warm over winter?
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:33:10 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote: Pete Bergstrom wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. Pete C. Google "golden rod" Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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Keeping a lathe and mill warm over winter?
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:33:10 GMT, "Pete C." wrote: Pete Bergstrom wrote: Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) Cabella's, Bass Pro Shops, your local gun store and many other places will have tubular heaters intended to warming gun safes to prevent condensation and rust. Pete C. That's an excellent suggestion Another possibility would be the magnetic block heaters made for car & truck engines. Stick one to the bottom of the cabinet. Rex B |
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Keeping a lathe and mill warm over winter?
what about a deep fat fryer with some kind of oil in it? crock pot with wax
in it set to the warm setting. "Pete Bergstrom" wrote in message ... Last winter I used lamps to slightly warm my mill and lathe over the cold period when I don't use the shop (to keep the condensation problem down). I'm doing that right now, but the light bulbs burn out and even when working they make a nice glow that escapes the garage, probably alerting the up-to-no-good-types that there's something of value in there. I've been looking for coffee-cup warmers, which I've read will do something similar as they put out about 25 watts of heat. They don't seem to be around anymore. Any other suggestions? I have a Model Engineer's Workshop issue from a few years ago that has a DIY thermostat and heater project, but I'd just as soon use something cheap and ready-made. Thanks, Pete (in St. Paul, MN) |
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Keeping a lathe and mill warm over winter?
Ignoramus19006 wrote:
I would really like to find a small, safe heating element that would make perhaps abou 30 watts or so. I need two, one to keep the poultry waterer from freezing, and I would put another into my welding machine. I will check out cabelas. Don't know how much it would cost, but how about a block heater for a diedel engine? Every Ford diesel (and I suspect other brands, also)has one. They plug into a 110v outlet. -- Gary Brady Austin, TX www.powdercoatoven.4t.com |
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They are also submerged in the coolant so they don't burn up.
-- Clif Holland KA5IPF www.avvid.com "Gary Brady" wrote in message ink.net... Ignoramus19006 wrote: I would really like to find a small, safe heating element that would make perhaps abou 30 watts or so. I need two, one to keep the poultry waterer from freezing, and I would put another into my welding machine. I will check out cabelas. Don't know how much it would cost, but how about a block heater for a diedel engine? Every Ford diesel (and I suspect other brands, also)has one. They plug into a 110v outlet. -- Gary Brady Austin, TX www.powdercoatoven.4t.com |
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