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Default Kroil is Better Than PB Blaster??

Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)


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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh
 
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"JWho" wrote in message
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil
is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)


I dunno... I had a floor jack, one caster of which had been frozen for
years -- through several attempts to get it free. PB-Blaster finally did
the trick that the others couldn't.



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Grant Erwin
 
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JWho wrote:
Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)


Kroil is IMO the best. Liquid Wrench has also worked for me in the past, but it
just doesn't work as well. It can, however, be purchased at your local hardware
store on a Sunday at 10PM, and Kroil is available only online or through
industrial vendors, typically 7-4 M-F or via mail order.

Never tried PB Blaster, almost certainly better than LW, might work better than
Kroil on some things. If I saw some somewhere I'd pick some up. Normally when I
use penetrating oil I'm in some sort of difficult situation and I'd try nearly
anything. But be aware, penetrating oil alone rarely is the complete solution.
Almost always, I use heat in conjunction with penetrating oil, often with
repeated heat/cool cycles that can last up to 2 weeks. Patience is key. Another
key is you MUST use the best possible tool to address the stuck item. Is it a
hex head bolt? Use a quality 6-sided box wrench or socket. Is it a slotted
screw? Use a US-made (or German made, just not an el cheapie) impact driver with
the tip that fits the slot tightly. Same for Phillips except use the largest
impact Phillips bit that will fit tightly. Broken off stud? Use real Vise Grips,
clamped as tightly as you can get them, as solidly as you can. Remember, you may
only get one chance at removing the item, so don't monkey around with cheap pliers.

GWE
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Robert Swinney
 
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While I use Kroil, I will say this: The preference for which type of
penetrating oil is highly subjective. Ask anyone who recently freed a
stubborn nut or bolt or screw which type is best and he will say, "it was
that XYZ brand I used; stuff is the absolute best there is; why, you could
unstick atoms in molecules with it; fact is there is adanger of that
happenin' so the damned Guvament is trying to control it" etc, ad nauseum.

Bob (Knoil's where its at) Swinney

"JWho" wrote in message
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil
is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)




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"JWho" wrote in message
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil
is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)


The smell alone is enough to align the public. I've had Kroil work on stuff
after PB failed.




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Tom Gardner wrote:
"JWho" wrote in message
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil
is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)



The smell alone is enough to align the public. I've had Kroil work on stuff
after PB failed.


Maybe the PB just softened it up.
Kinda like when you give up getting the jar lid off and hand it back to
The Woman, and she twists it off without straining. And give you The Look.
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:57:42 GMT, "JWho" wrote:

Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)


More than once I have sent a gullible student to the Aircraft shop
borrow a pint of K9P but they always send them back with a bucket of
prop wash.

Errol Groff

Instructor, Machine Tool Department

H.H. Ellis Technical High School
643 Upper Maple Street
Danielson, CT 06239

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In article , Rex B says...

Kinda like when you give up getting the jar lid off and hand it back to
The Woman, and she twists it off without straining. And give you The Look.


I hate that look.

Fortunately I have retaliatory weapons at my
disposal.

Jim


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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:00:41 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Rex
B quickly quoth:

Tom Gardner wrote:
"JWho" wrote in message
news:Wq7cf.524822$x96.42636@attbi_s72...

Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil
is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)


The smell alone is enough to align the public. I've had Kroil work on stuff
after PB failed.


The smell of Kroil, PBB, or LW? Good or bad?


Maybe the PB just softened it up.
Kinda like when you give up getting the jar lid off and hand it back to
The Woman, and she twists it off without straining. And give you The Look.


I've never had a lid I couldn't get off. But once, I had to break out
the 17" Channel Locks on a pickle jar. I used to amuse customers with
those pliers when doing a lube job on their cars (eons ago, back when
I first got started in the automotive industry in my previous life,
hence the strong hands.)

I'd get said pliers out of my tool box and walk toward their car with
them while their eyes bulged out of their sockets. They have a 7" jaw
opening and I slid 'em down to fit and unscrew the oil filter. g

My radiator hose screwdriver is 30" long, too. More eyeball poppin'.


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"JWho" wrote in
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating
oil is better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench
penetrating oil better than... nothing? :-)



IMHO, Kroil is the best. It is also very useful for cleaning.


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kroils has a new product for rustproofing , I believe it is called Kroil
weatherproofing , just got it in at work , looks to do the trick


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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:00:41 -0600, with neither quill nor qualm, Rex
B quickly quoth:

Tom Gardner wrote:
"JWho" wrote in message
news:Wq7cf.524822$x96.42636@attbi_s72...

Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating
oil
is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating
oil
better than... nothing? :-)

The smell alone is enough to align the public. I've had Kroil work on
stuff
after PB failed.


The smell of Kroil, PBB, or LW? Good or bad?


It's all good, IMO


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JWho wrote:
Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil is
better than PB Blaster brand?

Dont know about PB Blaster but Kroil is realy GREAT!!


Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)

Well I'd say "just barely". :-)
...lew...
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"Robert Swinney" wrote:

While I use Kroil, I will say this: The preference for which type of
penetrating oil is highly subjective. Ask anyone who recently freed a
stubborn nut or bolt or screw which type is best and he will say, "it was
that XYZ brand I used; stuff is the absolute best there is; why, you could
unstick atoms in molecules with it; fact is there is adanger of that
happenin' so the damned Guvament is trying to control it" etc, ad nauseum.


Nope. More like, I tried that there kroil, and heat, and more kroil, and
this, and that, and the other frigging thing, and finally I was able to
remove the whole assembly from points away from where I wanted to open
it up, put 3 foot extenders on the wrenches, and _then_ I could get the
damn thing to move. And I used anti-seize when I put it back together.
Problem is those parts you can't ever get a 3 foot extender on the
wrench for, or you do and the parts shear instead of unscrewing.

And then I have this other item with an accessibility problem which has
had both Kroil and PB Blaster applied liberally, along with heat and
cold and time and hammers, and is still together as of the last battle I
had with it.

I use kroil, but I'm not at all convinced it's magic.

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"JWho" wrote in message
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil
is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)


I have em all in the shop but when I have a stuck bolt I usually grab the
Kroil first...but then if the others were in a bright orange can so I could
find em I might try them more often LOL I like to hit the bolt with
freeze mist along with the Kroil. Seems to work better to cool the small
bit than to heat up everything. If the thermal shock is not enough then a
few good smaks with a hammer usually gets the kroil down to do it's thing.
Patienc is the key no matter what you use.
Glenn




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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:32:24 -0600, "Robert Swinney"
wrote:

While I use Kroil, I will say this: The preference for which type of
penetrating oil is highly subjective. Ask anyone who recently freed a
stubborn nut or bolt or screw which type is best and he will say, "it was
that XYZ brand I used; stuff is the absolute best there is; why, you could
unstick atoms in molecules with it; fact is there is adanger of that
happenin' so the damned Guvament is trying to control it" etc, ad nauseum.

Bob (Knoil's where its at) Swinney


My favorite recipe is Kroil and acetylene.....
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:40:02 GMT, Anthony
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"JWho" wrote in
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating
oil is better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench
penetrating oil better than... nothing? :-)



IMHO, Kroil is the best. It is also very useful for cleaning.


It's also magic in air tools. They love it! ZING!

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Don Foreman wrote in
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It's also magic in air tools. They love it! ZING!


I use Blaster Air Tool Oil in my air tools, but I'm sure Kroil would do
well also.


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I just had a shipment from Kano labs yesterday. I bought Silikroil in
cans, 1 gallon of liquid Kroil and 2 hand oilers. I also like their
Memogenda, they make great products. Sometimes nothing works, Kroil has
been a favorite of mine since being introduced to it at work, many
years ago. Take Care

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I don't use any of the typical loosening penetrating oils. I have had
nothing but sucess usiing the dye penetrant spray typically sold at
welding supply stores for checking for cracks and cold welds..... Used
it on highly rusted stuff to items that were in a slat environment,
and lots of other problematic frozen things and its never failed me.

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"JWho" wrote in message
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil

is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)



Thank you for all the responses! I appreciate it.


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Kroil brand penetrating oil is
better than PB Blaster brand?

Yep. Kroil EATS rust. About 30 years ago to try it I put several
REALLY rusty nails in about 1/2" of Kroil. In the morning the rust had
FALLEN off. At a large truck repair shop, where I sometimes find
myself, they call it "Thank you Jesus". Try it, you'll like it.

dennis
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Larry Jaques wrote:

I'd get said pliers out of my tool box and walk toward their car with
them while their eyes bulged out of their sockets. They have a 7" jaw
opening and I slid 'em down to fit and unscrew the oil filter. g


Hehe, I've done that with a 36" pipe wrench. Tad bit heavy.

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Tom Gardner wrote:
"JWho" wrote in message
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Am I getting this right? You guys are saying Kroil brand penetrating oil
is
better than PB Blaster brand? Is my can of Liquid Wrench penetrating oil
better than... nothing? :-)



The smell alone is enough to align the public. I've had Kroil work on stuff
after PB failed.


Maybe the PB just softened it up.
Kinda like when you give up getting the jar lid off and hand it back to
The Woman, and she twists it off without straining. And give you The Look.

Used to fight with jar lids, too, until my SO found this plastic
thingy that kinda looks like a WIDE can opener. Just hook the hook
under the rim of the lid, lift it up and it releases the vacuum in the
jar. The lid then simply twists off - my 6 year old grandson just
opened a jar of pickles with it the other day - he was so smug...
Ken
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