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Actuators or somethign for a bed cover.
I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for
my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or something? Can you help me find where the parts are? Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! |
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get the actuator and the hold down off something in a junk yard that has a
remote electric trunk lid. wrote in message oups.com... I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or something? Can you help me find where the parts are? Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! |
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One idea would be make the cover in several folding pieces, maybe 18" wide,
garage door opener style. The door could run on rails mounted just inside the top of the bed. I visualize a 12 volt motor running either a screw or cable to operate the fold-up door. Bob Swinney wrote in message oups.com... I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or something? Can you help me find where the parts are? Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! |
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JohnM wrote:
Again, I think you should go with an electric motor.. three-phase would be ideal because you can reverse the motor Wouldn't be a two stroke better? It can be reversed too and hasn't 3 wires that can be easily confused. :-) Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de |
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Nick Müller wrote:
JohnM wrote: Again, I think you should go with an electric motor.. three-phase would be ideal because you can reverse the motor Wouldn't be a two stroke better? It can be reversed too and hasn't 3 wires that can be easily confused. :-) Why have a motor at all? Just use a 5'x8' piece of 1/2" steel for the lid, and above it rig one of those large magnets like they use on the cranes at junkyards. Turn on the magnet to raise the lid, turn it off to lower it ... what could be simpler? -jiw |
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In article ,
James Waldby wrote: Nick Müller wrote: JohnM wrote: Again, I think you should go with an electric motor.. three-phase would be ideal because you can reverse the motor Wouldn't be a two stroke better? It can be reversed too and hasn't 3 wires that can be easily confused. :-) Why have a motor at all? Just use a 5'x8' piece of 1/2" steel for the lid, and above it rig one of those large magnets like they use on the cranes at junkyards. Turn on the magnet to raise the lid, turn it off to lower it ... what could be simpler? -jiw Much simpler to use propane. Let a bit in under the cover, strike a match when you want it to go UP. Automatically lowers itself. -- Free men own guns, slaves don't www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/ |
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You could buy a couple of air cylinders and use a 12 volt air compressor ( tyre inflator) to supply the air. wrote in message oups.com... I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or something? Can you help me find where the parts are? Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! |
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Tom Miller wrote:
You could buy a couple of air cylinders and use a 12 volt air compressor ( tyre inflator) to supply the air. Even better if he connects the rear tyres to the cylinders. If he opens the valve, the cover goes up and the back (deflated tyres) goes down which eases loading. By closing the cover, the rear tyres are inflated again. Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de |
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Tom Miller wrote:
You could buy a couple of air cylinders and use a 12 volt air compressor ( tyre inflator) to supply the air. Even better if he connects the rear tyres to the cylinders. If he opens the valve, the cover goes up and the back (deflated tyres) goes down which eases loading. By closing the cover, the rear tyres are inflated again. Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de I LOVE IT !!!! I'll keep this technical tidbit on file for when I need to do something like this.... Just like the busses in the city picking up passengers.... lower, load, raise.... G Ken. |
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Actually I thought of that. Are the compressors to run those expensive?
AM I going overboard here? I mean, shoudl I just use some sort of manual lift arms? I just thought it sounded like a neat idea, especially when I go to the grocery and have my hands full with the kids etc. Tom Miller wrote: You could buy a couple of air cylinders and use a 12 volt air compressor ( tyre inflator) to supply the air. wrote in message oups.com... I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or something? Can you help me find where the parts are? Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! |
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Did you cover it yourself? Was it hard? How did you do it?
Ignoramus25888 wrote: On 14 Sep 2005 05:31:31 -0700, wrote: Actually I thought of that. Are the compressors to run those expensive? AM I going overboard here? I mean, shoudl I just use some sort of manual lift arms? I just thought it sounded like a neat idea, especially when I go to the grocery and have my hands full with the kids etc. The best solution is to make a tonneau cover that lets you open the tailgate without lifting the cover. I did just that and grocery shopping is never a problem. i |
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oups.com... | I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for | my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could | store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the | hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or | something? Can you help me find where the parts are? | | Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! Air cylinders in all shapes and sizes exist out there to do the work of lifting. You can use an electric or engine driven air pump, but the electric is likely the simplest to work with and easier to install. A ten or so gallon air tank fits fine anywhere under the body and will store the volume of air you need to lift the lid at a rate you like. You'll be doing a bit of math unless you like trial and error. You can also, with proper counterweighting or air springs, use electric motors such as ones used for window winders. These things are strong as hell but don't run so fast. Folks who will likely have useful information and/or equipment will be shops that do RV's, semi trucks, and those low rider shops, since they do a good bit of that stuff, including pneumatics in addition to their usual work with hydraulics. |
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On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:39:38 +0200, Nick Müller wrote:
Tom Miller wrote: You could buy a couple of air cylinders and use a 12 volt air compressor ( tyre inflator) to supply the air. Even better if he connects the rear tyres to the cylinders. If he opens the valve, the cover goes up and the back (deflated tyres) goes down which eases loading. By closing the cover, the rear tyres are inflated again. Is it any wonder why the rest of the world admires German engineering such as this so much? Hold on though; isn't this system used in Citroen's suspensions? Perhaps its not German engineering after all! http://www.citroen.mb.ca/citroenet/html/h/hydro.html |
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I liked that. I was thinking of putting the over inside the bed rather
than coverign the upper bedrails. Would this work as well? How did you over the corners? What type of vyinly did you use? did you use something with padding underneath? jasonrnorth wrote: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/bedcap1.html JR Dweller in the cellar wrote: I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or something? Can you help me find where the parts are? Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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wrote in message oups.com... I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or something? Can you help me find where the parts are? Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! Power seat motors or power bed motors from a conversion van would work good. 12 volt. screw drives with remote motors. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Artemia Salina wrote:
Is it any wonder why the rest of the world admires German engineering such as this so much? vbg OK, i'm not one of them. If this is an excuse. :-)) So don't admire me, please! Hold on though; isn't this system used in Citroen's suspensions? Perhaps its not German engineering after all! French cars? German cars? Is there a difference? From the near as well as from the far. I _hope_! My dad had a Citroen DS 21 (D Super 5 looks the same). I could tell you some stories. But 2 are enough: #1 - Removing the front fender: Ha!, just some screws and then ... and then I gave up after 2 hours searching. But the rear fender is just one screw. Because you could not change the tyre without removing the fender. #2: Belt for the water pump: My brother in law had the same Citroen, and he asked me to change the beld. OK, I, no problem. Come here, gimme $10. Ummm. Bloody nuckles. Did you know that you have to remove the clutch cable (it goes through the belt) to ... OK, bad deal! Realy bad deal! Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de |
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carl mciver wrote:
A ten or so gallon air tank fits fine anywhere under the body and will store the volume of air you need to lift the lid at a rate you like. Funny! A picture of Evil Knevil just popped up in my head ... Nick -- Motor Modelle // Engine Models http://www.motor-manufaktur.de |
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Nick Müller wrote:
Hold on though; isn't this system used in Citroen's suspensions? Perhaps its not German engineering after all! French cars? German cars? Is there a difference? From the near as well as from the far. I _hope_! My dad had a Citroen DS 21 (D Super 5 looks the same). I could tell you some stories. But 2 are enough: #1 - Removing the front fender: Ha!, just some screws and then ... and then I gave up after 2 hours searching. But the rear fender is just one screw. Because you could not change the tyre without removing the fender. #2: Belt for the water pump: My brother in law had the same Citroen, and he asked me to change the beld. OK, I, no problem. Come here, gimme $10. Ummm. Bloody nuckles. Did you know that you have to remove the clutch cable (it goes through the belt) to ... OK, bad deal! Realy bad deal! Nick I've had 2 Citroens, The first in 1958 an ID 19 sedan then later, I think about 61 0r 2 an ID 19 station wagon (break) picked up in France and shiped home after driving around in western europe some. Put quite a few miles on both of them. ...lew... |
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You need a new keyboard....
How you do YOURS is up to you. The corners are a little hard,; some careful tucking and trimming worked for me.The vinyl is a heavyweight cloth-backed style; 54" bolt size. About $4.00 a linear yard at better fabric shops. JR Dweller in the cellar wrote: I liked that. I was thinking of putting the over inside the bed rather than coverign the upper bedrails. Would this work as well? How did you over the corners? What type of vyinly did you use? did you use something with padding underneath? jasonrnorth wrote: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth/bedcap1.html JR Dweller in the cellar wrote: I am thinking of building a bed cover made out of wood and covered for my bed of my truck. It would have a hinge so it would open and I could store things like groceries, etc. It there a way to make it so the hinged part could be opened automatically by a button or remote or something? Can you help me find where the parts are? Just thinking right now. Any helpful ideas are appreciated! -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses -------------------------------------------------------------- Dependence is Vulnerability: -------------------------------------------------------------- "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal" "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.." |
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